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Michael Pineda - Fantasy


I realize this site is about minor league prospects rather than fantasy.  Still, I feel people here would be most likely to help, rather than elsewhere, even at a site dedicated to fantasy. 

 

Basically I've been offered Rickie Weeks AND Colby Rasmus for Michael Pineda

I'm in 2nd place, right behind the guy offering the trade (litreally 1 point, in a standard 10 team 5x5 roto league).  It's a keeper league, albeit a very casual one.  There is no minor system, its simply any 12 (up to 12) players an owner has on their roster going into the draft they can keep.  There is no limit to how many years a player can be kept.  There is no economy or salary cap.  As such, there's an embarassment of riches sitting on the waiver wire at the moment (for example I finally couldn't wait any longer and picked up Mike Trout to stash him on the bench.  Now, please don't critcize our league.  I realize it's the exact opposite of hardcore, but it's just 10 real life friends, most of whom are casual baseball fans, having some fun.  I say ALL this to point out that a guy like Matt Moore is just sitting on the waiver wire and probably even in the offseason (Someone does have Teheran). 

So to get to the question.  The obvious question is, do I make the trade?  It seems like a no-brainer, but what I'm really interested in is the community's opinion of Pineda.  How good is he?  Obviously he's been very good thus far this year, although his xFIP is nearly a full point higher than his ERA (3.42 vs. 2.45 - 2.91 FIP).  Still, he's only a rookie. 

Basically, would I be giving a top 10 pitcher for years to come (again factoring in his high strikeouts, but low(er) W totals (playng for Seattle) for fantasy purposes) or is he only a top 30 or even 50 guy over the next several years?  If fantasy makes you uncomfortable, just how good is this guy really.  Is he a true ace, top 10 pitcher to go next to Felix, or is he a 1-2 guy, who will be a top 50 pitcher. 

I would also be helped by comparing Pineda to pitchers I have a better grasp on as far as how they will do over the next 3-5 years. Either compare individually or rank overall.

Tommy Hanson

Clayton Kershaw

Zach Grenkie

Matt Garza

Ricky Romero

Juilo Teheran

Jeremy Hellickson

Thanks guys for the input.  Oh, and if this is inappropriate for this site, let me know and I will delete it immediately.

Poll
How good will Michael Pineda be over the next 3-5 years?
Michael Pineda will be a top 10 pitcher in MLB
29 votes
Michael Pineda will be in the 11-30 range in regards to pitchers in MLB
51 votes
Michael Pineda will be in the 31+ range in regards to pitchers in MLB
5 votes

85 votes | Poll has closed

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I will only encourage you to check out FakeTeams.com, another SBN site where I'd be happy to help!

Not only am I a writer, but I am also a Mariners fan. You can’t go wrong.

follow @casetines

by Kenneth Arthur on Jun 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

I’m a member over there and will repost it.

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 28, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 28, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short term?

Do it.

Long term?

Nah.

Reason for doing it short term: Eventually the Mariners are going to protect Pineda’s arm and will start limiting his appearances or innings. They may eventually shut him down entirely if he gets close to the 160 IP mark. He’s already at 95 IP before today’s start, so rough estimate would be that the M’s give him another 9 or 10 starts before they relegate him to the bullpen. Thus, for this season, whomever has Pineda is going to have him only as a bullpen arm sometime late in the season.

Long term, though, Pineda should be awesome for years, so keep him.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 28, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Well

I’m trying to mix the two.

Does this change your mind?

The rest of my staff
Felix Hernandez
Jared Weaver
Jon Lester
Ricky Romero

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 28, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you can win the league without our help

Snark aside, flags fly forever, and fantasy championship bragging rights amongst friends are what playing is all about. Go for the title. You have plenty of keeper talent on your team even without Pineda.

by dnc on Jun 28, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the trade

Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, I’ll add that pitcher attrition/injury rates are much higher than position players. If you want to win now, take the two hitters, even if you don’t keep Rasmus.

by FI2 on Jun 28, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Take the trade.

Those are two very, very good hitters, and they’re both on the right side of 30 (one on the right side of 27).

Whoever offered must be desperate for pitching.

by slamcactus on Jun 29, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

He

was desperate to move a MI, and he moved one before I could act on the trade. For once, my thoroughness cost me :(.

Da'Sean Butler - A Mountaineer Legend

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jun 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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