June 11 minor league games
by siddfynch on Jun 11, 2011 1:39 PM EDT
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PrintInteresting last couple weeks, in that we get to see some callups performing in the majors. Some of these were expected, but at least two (Greg Halman and Dee Gordon) really suprised me. Both have hit OK so far, Halman having only 3 whiffs (in 16 PAs), and Gordon looking like Rafael Furcal lite.
Can Halman and Gordon turn a corner at the major league level?
Other guys I am waiting to see called up: Kipnis, Mesoraco, Lawrie, Jake McGee, Jesus Montero, Travis Snider
A few notable pitchers going today:
- Drew Pomeranz
- Alex Colome vs. Jordan Swagerty
- Oliver Perez (not a prospect anymore)
- Tyler Matzek (see Oliver Perez, possibly)
- Jared Cosart
- Alex Torres
- Neil Ramirez
- Chris Archer
- Barry Zito
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i whiffed on Mesoraco (until now)-
There is almost nothing to nitpick about in his numbers. I doubt he will see anything other than a cup o’ Joe this year, barring injury…but do the reds and crusty give him the gig next year as they seemingly should?? I was big on rosario to start, but this kid has passed him imo and outside of ‘sweet Jesus’ there isn’t a minor league catcher I put ahead of him.
What range do people have Mesoraco in now?
I had him around #30 on my preseason list(#31 on my rough draft, not sure on the final list, I can’t find it). So far 11 players ahead of him on my list will definitely lose prospect status with another 6-8 names as strong possibilities to lose eligibility. Another 3-4 names have dropped behind Mesoraco at this point, but then there are a couple of names ranked behind that move ahead as well as newly drafted players like Cole, Rendon, etc. I’m guessing he ends up in the 10-20 range for me, though without sitting down and writing out the names I can’t really nail it down more than that. Where does he rank for everyone else?
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I had him 10th among undrafted players in my league
but it’s a deep league that typically only has players available from last year’s draft (Harper, Machado, etc.) and late risers leftover from prior years (such as Machado, whose 2010 numbers seemingly came out of nowhere). Among catchers, he was the top one available, a few spots ahead of Rosario, both of whom were then well ahead of Grandal.
Basically, I tentatively bought into the numbers from 2010 being legit, enough to grab him at Pick 21. The next established minor leaguers that went shortly after were McNutt, Franklin, White, and Odorizzi. Ones that went just before him were Segura, Espinosa, and Singleton.
I had him
Top 25, but that was based on some faith that he was the best of a trio including Rosario and Norris. Mesoraco and Rizzo were two guys I was very high on coming into the year.
by blackoutyears on Jun 12, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Matzek
I’m curious if anyone knows what mechanics he’s using, his HS mechanics that saw him jump up the draft board or the altered mechanics the Rockies changed him to? I think it’s worth a shot at letting him go back to throwing how he is comfortable and seeing what the results are, as things haven’t been working so far as is.
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Matzek, very predictable fall
Wilriv called it back in the 09’ draft
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
what about case?
Since we know his word is gospel.
by St.Steve on Jun 11, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Again, all the backhanded insults about Casejud
He is right more than ANYONE on this site. Time to respect him
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
A fair amount
I have my misses. I am not as good as Casejud, I will admit that, and it’s high time he started to get the respect around here he deserves.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I have my misses
So it’s also possible that your bizarre, strident, out-of-nowhere pimping of a given community is also incorrect, eh?
We get it. You love Casejud and feel like he’s underrated, like some ground ball pitcher plugging away among high K pitchers. Now can we just go back to our regular programming? I will mentally give Case a +1 from you every time he posts.
by siddfynch on Jun 11, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No.
Casejud is the Tim Lincecum of this site, striking everyone out.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Mad that you are wrong more often?
I just point out the facts. No need to get all butt hurt about it, step up your evaluating skills.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
I’m feeding a troll, and I should be smarter than that.
More like you are the troll. Again, I didn’t bring up Casejud in this thread, you all did.
Settle down, Nancy.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ummmmm
More like you are the troll. Again, I didn’t bring up Casejud in this thread, you all did.
Settle down, Nancy.
all one has to do is read above:
Again, all the backhanded insults about Casejud
He is right more than ANYONE on this site. Time to respect him
you’re the first to bring up Casejud. so…“Nancy”, will you just shut it?
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 12, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
hey PissedMick
Here’s what happens when you try to battle Casejud
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/6/7/547573/buster-posey
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
No comment, huh?
About that thread I linked?
All I’m saying is that the Man has a gift, and it’s much better than anyone else here. I honestly don’t see the harm in viewing this as a competition.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I never posted there, just read it.
And this is highly irrelevant to the topic( just like Casejud was).
So what’s your deal?
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon, we're all buds here.
You have quite a comprehensive memory of the McCovey Chronicles and Extra Baggs community to just be a lurker.
Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.
By the way, replied to you in the Giants draft review thread
And no, you are wrong, I have not once posted on McC(little bit negative for my tastes, but to each his/her own) and ExtraBaggs is filled with ridiculous over the top comments. I actually LIKED reading your posts on that blog because you were one of the level-headed ones.
Ryan Verdugo....The next Jonathan Sanchez.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I've tempered the idolation of the UZR Gods, btw.
Let it not be said that I am incapable of changing an incorrect opinion!
Also, I’m done in the Giants review thread. Your compliment took the motivation out of me, so to speak.
I hope the kid sticks at SS, but it’s not just Fla-Giant’s opinion that he’ll eventually move, but KLaw and others, and I’d rather not formulate my own judgment without more experience, so for now, I’m trusting in the consensus opinion.
Adoptive father of Jose Casilla.
That is fine.
My only point all along was the story was not written, and am willing to give the kid a shot to stick there, as I think his Bat will play much better at SS than 2B. I’m not saying that it’s a lock he stays there at all, just hoping he will.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the thread you linked
ummm…wasnt buster posey well on his way to a .280, 15-20 HR season, just like the community (not casejud) predicted?
I said he would be that good
didn’t I? I also was just arguing that the evidence showed that he was as good of a power prospect as Matt Wieters. That has turned out ok, hasn’t it?
Nobody mentions it buit, the thing I’m most p[roud of is comparing Posey to Cal Ripken in that thread. He reminded me of him in college and, he does now. I don’t that is quiute as crazy as it was labeled at that time.
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by guru4u on Jun 12, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"I’m feeding a troll"
Yeah, time to ignore the weirdo. Clear trolling, as no one could seriously hold his opinion of casejud.
by blackoutyears on Jun 12, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have never seen this much fellatio on the internet
by Yankees10 on Jun 11, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
"never seen this much fellatio"
Not without pulling out your credit card at least. lol
by blackoutyears on Jun 12, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI
23/112 (around 20%) of your comments on this site include the word “casejud”.
Might want to calm that down a bit, buddy.
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by hero66 on Jun 11, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Casejud
Isn’t bad, but give it a rest already. Took me a mere 2 minutes to go back and find where he was making an arguement that Jed Lowrie was better than Joey Votto and no one will ever forget him sucking the foreskin off of Tim Alderson. Who? Exactly. Like I said, I think Case is alright, but he cetainly doesn’t have the track record to stand out as some sort of elite prospector.
by slurve on Jun 11, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Though Alderson is looking a bit better this year
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by OldProspects on Jun 12, 2011 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Ouch
I would have mentioned those as a coupkle of my NOT-finer moments If I had remebered them. Don’t forget Andy Marte, Micah Owings, Mat Gamel, etc. I also really liked them.
I will say that Lowrie has turned out to be pretty damned ghood ballplayer and there was considerable doubt that one here at the time.
I COULD just write Alderson off as an unforseen miss, a LOT of peiople liked him at the time but, he has tought me to be way more discerning about really young arms in the minor leagues.
"if it first you don't suceed, maybe you just suck" - Kenny Powers
Well...
Even though I’m loathe to give credit to some random guy (and I have no f’ing idea who you are) no one could predict that Alderson’s mechanics would be messed with as badly as his were. He looks like a shell of his former self, and frankly some of that is directly attributable to the fact that his mechanics have been messed with to an extreme degree. They weren’t great to start, but it seems clear that too much change was attempted.
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by Franchise887 on Jun 12, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
AH
I haven’t seen him throw lately but, he was impressive as a High Schooler and as a 19 year old in the California League. He had nice size, a funkly delivery but, all sorts of deception and command, and a feel for pitching. His stuff just went downhill.
I haven’t noticed him lately but, I was hoping he’d get it back. In retrospect I should have listened to the people who questioned his pitching mechanics more perhaps.;
"if it first you don't suceed, maybe you just suck" - Kenny Powers
You shouldn't give up on Gamel just yet!
He’s obviously not going to build a hall of fame career starting at 26-27 next year (and I have no idea what your predictions for him were), but he will still be a solid contributor to the Post-Prince Brewers.
by realitypolice on Jun 12, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Man!
You are great! Nobody has ever been this nice to me before! I think my style is way more agressive than some groundball pitcher. I’ll take Timmy.
He’s another guy I stood by when others questioned him back in the day.
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And btw...
I didn’t bring up Casejud in this thread, it was St. Steve who brought him up to bait me.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm
mostly just a lurker, but SHUTUP ALREADY!!!!!!!
sheesh.
by notsukao on Jun 11, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Who brought up Casejud?
Me, or someone trying to ignite something?
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't have to respond
Not that you’d pass up a chance to stroke the ego of your beloved casejud or anything. That’s just out of the question.
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who gives a shit who brought who up
just shut up. I don’t give a flying you know what casejud says about anything but you have polluted several threads now with your ballwashing. Stuff a sock in it, puppet.
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by t ball on Jun 11, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
John, you need to step in
John,
Periodically you’ve stepped in or promised to step in when language or personal attacks get out of hand. As someone who always reads but rarely comments, I’ve seen these daily threads feature personal trashtalking back-and-forth escalate and become commonplace. I’d ask you to step in. It is your site, but these threads are increasingly unpleasant to read down, which is unfortunate.
Nick
by Nick Christie on Jun 13, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd have to agree
The people that Rec stuff like this should be embarrassed. It is one thing to disagree with someone’s opinion, but people should try to drop the personal insults.
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 13, 2011 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Flag comments.
It helps him and any other mods to track down the malefactors.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 13, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Bah
this has already played itself out and I’m done with this clown. This guy evinced a reaction from several regular posters, and I object strongly to the whole idea of scoreboarding when it comes to discussing our favorite prospects here. I refrain from personal insults when posting here, but I’ll call a spade a spade. It was unnecessary for me to jump into this thread, though, and just exacerbating the situation. I’ll avoid doing so again.
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scoreboarding
Yes. This diminishes the site far more than pedestrian name-calling. I’d suggest that the more knowledgeable and interesting posters, of which you’re one t ball, simply ignore him. It’s hard to watch someone litter otherwise engaging threads with endless declarations of “community whiffs” and bickering over prospect lists, but it’s up to John to intervene as the situation clearly isn’t policing itself.
by blackoutyears on Jun 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No worries T Ball
Usually you are rather refrained so one outburst isn’t a big deal. Hopefully everyone will ease up and get back to talking baseball.
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by King Billy Royal on Jun 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
it WAS you
St. Steve didn’t. Now you’re just lying.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 12, 2011 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Being so predictable
I wonder why so many didn’t predict it? I’m sure the Rockies knew he’d suck…
by Woo! on Jun 11, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Perhaps if the Rockies didn't mess with his delivery, the results would be different
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I just looked at video of Matzek from March this year
Compared with 2008 in the Under Armour game.
He is the same guy mechanically, struggles to repeat his delivery and lacks concentration. He still has very good stuff though so I would say he MIGHT have a chance of turning it around.
But in terms of mechanics, in March it was the same as when he was in high School
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The video
I saw this spring shows Matzek slowed way down from h.s. I think his rhythm is shot at this point. The good news is that he doesn’t look hurt.
by blackoutyears on Jun 12, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Pitching Guru Dick Tidrow passed on him
for Zack Wheeler. That should have been the 1st sign.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Then what about all the other pitchers Tidrow passed on that year like Shelby Miller and Jacob Turner, not to mention Kyle Gibson, Mike Minor, and Alex White?
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The only one on that list better than Wheeler is Shelby Miller.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And even that is debatable
Long term
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I will remember this comment
just in case you end up needing to eat a nice big plate of crow for your arrogance. :)
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I said debatable
That’s not saying Wheeler is better than Miller. Would it surprise me if Wheeler ends up better? No. Do I expect it? No, probably not.
Nice try though. You can hold me to Wheeler> all those other guys though.
And if I AM WRONG, I will gladly eat crow, unlike most of the know-it-all’s here that are WRONG a lot.
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh that's what I meant
Wheeler vs. Turner, White, Gibson, and Minor. The ones you summarily dismissed in your original reply.
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Yes, easily.
Hold me to that, I beg you. Wheeler has Ace stuff, a unique ability to strike you out and induce plenty of GB’s
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by AngelsFlyWhenTheyTakeThemselvesLightly on Jun 11, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take 4 for sure, maybe all 5 of them, over Wheeler
and I’m a Giants fan who loves Wheeler. Gibson/Minor/White are all closer to the majors with comparable ceilings. Miller is much better overall, and Turner is the only one who is comparable to Wheeler
-1
I would argue that Wheeler has a higher ceiling than either Gibson or Minor.
"if it first you don't suceed, maybe you just suck" - Kenny Powers
And I'd agree with that
but the ceilings are close enough to be comparable, and Gibson/Minor’s proximity to the majors, and higher floors (Gibson for getting mad amounts of GBs, and Minor for being a lefty) give them a definite edge of wheeler.
If you say so
I’d say that unless one has a real reason to think one guy is going to get hurt more than another, and I don’t see that, I take the guyw ith the higher upside. Remember, the Giants move guys FAST If they are good.
Look at my boy Mad-Bum. He turned out to be pretty good too huh?
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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Don't forget Turner
Most here do. He’s often the “forgotten man” when discussing elite RH SPs.
Had a hard time
following who you were replying about because there was so much crap in between!
by Jersey Transplant on Jun 11, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one...
…who doesn’t think Dee Gordon has some huge corner he needs to turn? He might need a little adjustment time in the majors, but I see him winding up as being pretty similar in offensive performance and overall value to Michael Bourn. He won’t be the kind of player people pay a lot of attention to, but he should quietly produce plenty of value for the Dodgers.
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Well
I think the question is, could he develop another half notch if he were to stay in the minors this year, in a way that he won’t if he gets called up?
Then again, sometimes people seem to gain that half notch in the majors. Better coaching? More able to play to the level of their peers? This is an element that I assume well-run clubs pay attention to and factor into their calculus, and one we’ll never really be privy to..
Nope, not the only one
I think he’s capable of posting an empty average. If he’s playing the kind of defense that his tools suggest he can, he’ll be a valuable major leaguer.
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Question
Dee Gordon was your #47 guy, not picking on you for this. You like the guy, thats cool. What I am wondering is where exactly did you rank Ben Revere? He was off the BB top 100 I believe.
Isn’t he a very similar player to Dee Gordon? Potential for a good, empty average – lots of speed – doesn’t walk a lot – figures to conmtribute defense at an important position. Eevn you have to admit tjhis is a pretty compelling argument right?
By the way, even though I’m making thuis argument I still think that Revere is a quite a bit better hitter than Gordon is.
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Ah
Revere 118 in 1654 Pa’s = 7.13%
Gordon 113 in 1709 Pa’s= 6.61%
i guess you are right, Revere has walked more. Revere and Gordon are similar offensive players. With thier similarities in athleticism, defensive ability, and power there really is no logical reason Gordon should get attention as a top 50 prospect and Revere should struggle to rank in the top 100. No reasons that I can see anyways.
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20th rounder Joel Seddon turns down 1M offer from Jays
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/11/jays-are-bbopped
wow, this must be about wanting to experience college because it’s extremely doubtful he tops 1M in three years.
At Everett
from July 13 to17. I’ll try to catch a few of those games. I can’t wait! Profar last year, QAlfaro this year. Hopefully Danny Hultzen will start a game or two in Everett but, Im not counting onj it.
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I would hope so too, but I bet Hultzen will start out higher up the ladder.
Considering where the M’s started their last ultra-polished #2 pick (AA) it might be a little much to expect Hultzen in short-season ball.
Probably true
. . . not to mention that If players don’t sign ‘til August 15th, they don’t debut at all sometimes -’til next season.
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Anyone know what the story with Kipnis is?
Will he get a shot this summer, or is he blocked as long as the Indians are in the race?
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Yeah, I don’t get why they wouldn’t call him up if they are in the race. He and Chis make them a better team
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by mathisrocks5 on Jun 11, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My guess
And it’s just a complete guess…
I think they are trying to figure out what they have in Cord Phelps. Phelps will get the lion’s share of starts at 2B over the next couple months. And as long as Hannahan produces at 3B, there is no rush to push Phelps over to 3B and bring Kipnis up.
All that being said, I do think by the end of August we will see Kipnis as the starting 2B in Cleveland.
by guru4u on Jun 12, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jose Altuve 2/4
Wait… My bad, game hasn’t started yet.
by John Black on Jun 11, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
I think Altuve deserves a spot in anybodys top 50.
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by mathisrocks5 on Jun 11, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only got the one hit
I am disappoint, Altuve.
(At least it was a triple.)
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17 yo Rays VSL catcher Oscar Hernandez went yard yet again today for his 11th home run in just 76 at bats.
He is interesting if nothing else.
Jordan Lyles vs. Mike Minor
In the majors tonight. Minor getting hit hard in the 1st so far. Lyles gave up 2 hits, but rolled a 2 ball in the top of the frame.
Um
Lyles is getting hit just as hard but he’s wiggling off the hook!
Similar lines from similar pitchers
Minor 6 IP 4 H 2 R 2 BB 4 K
Lyles 6.1 IP 8 H2 R 2 BB 5 K
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No you didn't but
You made it a point to say it about Minor though
whatever
At the time I typed my initial comment, it was the bottom of the 1st, and Minor was getting hit hard. For the record, I have both guys on my team, so I was rooting for both of ’em.
The “sensitivity meter” must be set to high on this board tonight…
has he made believers out people?
i’m beginning to see it.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 12, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe in him more than many other OF prospects
that said, his lefty split concerns me. (.226/.316/.405 in 84 at bats)
+1
I hope he learns how to hit lefties. Otherwise we are looking at Seth Smith Jr.
Nothing wrong with Seth Smith
In my opinion at least.
I believe in Wheeler
but do wonder how his skills will translate. The splits and the strikeouts are areas to monitor. He’s having a great year though.
by blackoutyears on Jun 12, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Moose hit his 1st home run too!
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Ramirez keeps putting up "meh" lines
but half of it is just that he’s pitching so few innings each time. He’s not even averaging 5 innings a start, but he’s struck out 62 in 56.2 innings, and has walked only 25 with 3 HR.
The next step for Ramirez to make is pitch efficiency. I’m just speculating, since I don’t know how many pitches Texas is letting him throw each time out, but at a glance you’d expect that a lack of efficiency is leading to short outings. The fact that he made a huuuuuge jump from the Carolina league to the PCL and is pitching very well on a rate basis is cause for a lot of excitement. It’s not unexpected that he’d struggle somewhere given that jump. If he can learn how make his pitches count a bit more, he’s going to be very good, very fast.
You might be right on the efficiency comment
The K rate is really good, but 25 BB in 56.2 innings is not a good BB rate at all. He’s likely throwing way too many pitches and just needs to learn to trust his stuff a little more against the advanced hitters in AAA.
This is all true. His overall numbers are still good
But he’s really cooled off since his hot April start.
He skipped AA,
and there should be some expectation of league adjustment. That said, he isn’t going deep into games, and really wasn’t even when he was “hot”. I’m interested to see how he adjusts.
by blackoutyears on Jun 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
garrett gould is making a mockery of the midwest league at age 19
5 IP 2 H 0 ER 2 BB 7 K
era now at 1.55
64 IP 43 H 11 ER 17 BB 59 Ks 5 Hr allowed on the season
A bit of hyperbole never hurt, but I haven't seen it help much either.
Still a nice line though, and reason for optimism.
by PissedMick on Jun 12, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's going to be a top 100 prospect by the end of the season
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Vitters 3-4 with 2 2bs, now at 290/329/455 in AA
Matt Szczur 2-5 with HR #4
Justin Bour 2-4 with HR #16
Da Boys of Summer
Shoot, are we going to have to resurrect the prospect status of mat Gamel around here? he hit his 11th homer – his second in as many nights – tonight. He’s hitting .303/.374/.522
Pablo Sandoval homered for Fresno. I heard he may dust off his catching gear when he gets back to San Fran.
Barry Enright for Reno 6 – 2 – 1 – 1 – 1 – 4. An underrated guy. I hope he gets back to the show soon. A 3.29 ERA in Reno will help get you there.
Dayan Viciedo went 2 -4 with a double, single. He’s hitting .312/ .358/ .519 at Charlotte and is a Jaun Pierre, Adam Dunn,. Paul Konerko, or Carlos Quentin pulled hammy away from the big leagues. Not that I’m rooting for any of those. Ok, maybe part of me with Jaun Pierre. Dayan is a community WHIFF, by the way. You can argue that it was justified but, he certainly was ignored as a prospect before the year.
Magglio Ordonez homered for the second straight for Toledo. He’s ready Detroit. He’ll be back Monday.
Jason Kipnis homered for Columbus.
Mike Trout tripled, singled twice, walked, and swiped two bags. My kind of ballplayer.
Hak Ju Lee. He is heating up again. 2-5 with a double tonight and 2 huits or more in 6 of the past 7 games. .356/ .435/ .500 at age 20 in the Florida State League.
You can say whatever you want about me personally but, you have to give me Hak Ju Lee. I ranked him 14th on my pre-season list when nobody else put him in thier top 60 except maybe Frankie Pillierre. The kid is something! The Korean Jose Reyes is what.
"if it first you don't suceed, maybe you just suck" - Kenny Powers
BDNF
Nick Franklin has been disappointing to some this season maybe but, not tonight. 2-4 with a walk, a homer, and three runs scored. I may have made an error ranking him as the 7th best prospect in baseball, or I may not. I’ll have to think about that one. He is one that I’d sure love to see play for a game or two to see whats up.
"if it first you don't suceed, maybe you just suck" - Kenny Powers
BDNF
Anyone have any insight on his position? There were some doubts on his ability to stick at SS defensively last year, and now I see he has logged in a fair amount of time at 2B.
Just like last year, he's been rotating with other short stop prospects (Noriega, etc)
Don’t concern yourself with it. Scouts see mixed on where he inevitably ends up but nobody has pointed out one actual tangible thing that would prevent him from being a short stop long term. Just a lot of guesswork on how his body fills out as he matures.
The only disappointing thing about Franklin this year vs. last year is the power has vanished. This is doubly odd when you consider he’s playing in the Cal League this year, which is known for it’s offensive launching pads (Adalento and Lancaster).
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jun 12, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
They started him off in the 2-hole in the lineup and he was taking a lot of pitches – and drawing a lot of walks – and recently he has hit leadoff some.
So, it is actually much like my friend Slamcactus said, that they would groom him as top of the order hitter and as a Shortstop aand that with his size, that would take away from his power.
I always said that it was his all-around game that made him a top prospect to me but, the bat has been a disappointment this year.
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."
- Bill Hicks
Parker Bridwell hit 100 MPH last night
tfoy05 Tim Foy
by Orioles_Nation
After an hour rain delay Parker Bridwell hits 100mph on 5th pitch of the game
Brett Oberholtzer
Third drubbing in his last four starts and even the other start featured three walks and no strikeouts. 10 BB to 6 K in those starts, after posting a 10K 0BB game on May 20. What the heck has happened to him? He looked like he was heading for a breakout year before this stretch.
Pat Dean
Interesting Twins LHP had his best start of the year: 6.2IP 0H 0R 2BB 9K. His delivery is slightly closed off in front, but he repeats it well and the arm speed and slot are the same on his FB, curve and change. Interesting guy.
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