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2011 Baseball Mock Draft: First Round


2011 Mock Draft: First Round

    Here is my first shot at a Mock Draft for 2011. I'll make this as interesting as possible and go all the way through the supplemental first round. The supplemental round will be posted this afternoon.
    We are still a month away. Rumors are starting up, of course, and I've paid some attention to them, but there is still so much time for things to change that I don't take any one rumor especially seriously. Most teams keep things close to the vest, and there are always going to be surprises. The mock draft isn't a prediction at this point, but rather a fun intellectual exercise. I've paid attention to things like draft budgets and past draft strategies for each team, and I've thrown a few "surprise" picks in there.

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1) Pirates: Anthony Rendon, 3B, Rice: Rendon or Cole? Rendon or Cole? Both have some question-marks sneaking into their profiles, but for today we'll assume that the medical reviews of Rendon's shoulder turn out OK.

2) Mariners: Gerrit Cole, RHP, UCLA: I'll stick with the idea that the Mariners pick whoever the Pirates don't. I still see Cole as a future number one starter.

3) Diamondbacks: Danny Hultzen, LHP, Virginia. Arizona drafted Hultzen in the 10th round in 2008 and couldn't sign him. This time they do.

4) Orioles: Jed Bradley, LHP, Georgia Tech: He won't need long in the minors and makes a fine lefty trifecta with Brian Matusz and Zach Britton.

5) Royals: Bubba Starling, OF, Kansas HS: Simply makes too much sense. He's immensely toolsy, and the Royals don't let local guys get past them now.

6) Nationals: Trevor Bauer, RHP, UCLA: I love Bauer and considered him as high as three.

7) Diamondbacks (failure to sign Barret Loux): Matt Barnes, RHP, Connecticut. This pick isn't protected, and Hultzen won't be cheap to sign at #3, which means signability and cost has to be factored into this as much as talent. Big front office turnover last year is an added factor: what direction will the new decision-making team go? I'll go with UConn right-hander Matt Barnes here with a pre-draft deal worked out, the first pick people look at as a "surprise" despite his talent level.

8) Indians: Sonny Gray, RHP, Vanderbilt: Fits college pitching theme of the last few drafts, with Alex White and Drew Pomeranz.

9) Cubs: Francisco Lindor, SS, Florida HS: The Cubs do unusual things, and they already have Starlin Castro. But you can't have too many middle infielders with strong bats and slick gloves, and Lindor is too good to pass up.

10) Padres (failure to sign Karsten Whitson): George Springer, OF, Connecticut. Unprotected pick, so a college player makes sense. You could easily go with one of the college pitchers here such as Stilson or Jungmann, but in this universe the Padres decide to add another high-upside athletic outfielder to the system alongside Reymond Fuentes and Donavan Tate. Springer's tools are excellent.

11) Astros: Dylan Bundy, RHP, Oklahoma HS: The Astros have been attracted to high school arms, and Bundy makes a lot of sense here. It comes down to him or Taylor Guerrieri, but Bundy has a bit more polish and is closer geographically.

12) Brewers: Blake Swihart, C, New Mexico HS: This farm system is gutted and could use help in every department. I think things are thinner positionally, and Swihart's combination of offense and defense is special. High school catching is risky but he's the highest guy on the board.

13) Mets: John Stilson, RHP, Texas A&M: I don't see the Mets changing their conservative draft philosophy just yet, but Stilson should be signable, has plenty of upside and is moving up charts.

14) Marlins: Archie Bradley, RHP, Oklahoma HS: Power high school arms typically attract the Marlins, and since Bradley is a football guy, you can spread his bonus out.

15) Brewers (failure to sign Dylan Covey): Mikie Mahtook, OF, LSU: Unprotected pick, so gambling on a high schooler isn't logical. Mahtook has tools, is hitting the hell out of the ball this year, and should be signable.

16) Dodgers: Jose Fernandez, RHP, Florida HS: A surprise pick, but think about it. We know Logan White loves high school power arms, and Fernandez has one of the best. We also know that the Dodgers likely have financial restrictions from MLB. Fernandez is expected to go late in the first round, but that's due more to the depth of the class than anything else, and he's a bit older than most of the high school arms. Let's say he agrees to sign for slot money pre-draft. That's better than getting drafted 25th or 30th. He's happy, the baseball guys are happy, and MLB is happy.

17) Angels: Taylor Guerrieri,RHP, South Carolina HS: Everyone says "wow, what a bargain" at 17th overall. But there is so much talent this year that he can easily fall this far given the restrictions that some teams ahead of this slot have to contend with.

18) Athletics: Josh Bell, OF, Texas HS: He's a prep, but his upside is huge, he's got loads of power, he controls the zone, and Oakland needs hitting.

19) Red Sox (for Victor Martinez): Andrew Susac, C, Oregon State: The broken hamate doesn't reduce his stock much. Picking him as compensation for a lost catcher makes sense too.

20) Rockies: Daniel Norris, LHP, Tennessee HS: Well, if Christian Friedrich and Tyler Matzek don't pan out, let's try Daniel Norris.

21) Blue Jays: Javier Baez, INF, Florida HS: Opinion is still mixed on this guy and he could go anywhere from 20 beyond. I'll stick him with the Jays on the assumption he stays in the middle of the diamond.

22) Cardinals: Alex Meyer, RHP, University of Kentucky: Excellent upside for this spot.
 
23) Nationals (for Adam Dunn): Taylor Jungmann, RHP, University of Texas: Another player that everyone says "bargain!" but could easily fall here given circumstances. The Nats pick up two top college right-handers with him and Bauer.

24) Rays (for Carl Crawford): Robert Stephenson, RHP, California HS. First portion of a huge draft bounty. How do you balance upside with financial considerations? We'll start off with a high-upside high school arm.

25) Padres: Tyler Anderson, LHP, University of Oregon: He could easily go earlier than this, but under this scenario he represents good value for the Padres here.

26) Red Sox (for Adrian Beltre): Tyler Beede, RHP, Massachusetts HS: Red Sox pick the local kid and buy his arm away from Vanderbilt with a pre-draft but overslot deal.

27) Reds: Josh Osich, LHP, Oregon State: He's healthy, pushing into first round consideration, and would provide some boost for a system with thinning pitching.

28) Braves: Brian Goodwin, OF, Miami-Dade CC: Very toolsy, fast, has power, slots well here on talent and the Braves could use an outfield prospect.

29) Giants: Henry Owens, LHP, California HS: Fits the Giants mold and slots well here talent-wise, plus a home state kid.

30) Twins: Kolten Wong, 2B, University of Hawaii: There are still lots of attractive options here, but the Twins drafted Wong out of high school, he fits their needs, and has the talent to go slightly higher so it isn't a stretch.

31) Rays (for Rafael Soriano): C.J. Cron, 1B, Utah: Signable, very talented, and can help soon.

32) Rays: Levi Michael, SS, North Carolina: Signable, talented, and can help soon.
 
33) Rangers (for Cliff Lee): Derek Fisher, OF, Pennsylvania HS: High-ceiling athlete would likely go higher if he was from a warmer-weather area.

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I think the Dbacks will take Gray with their 2nd pick if available over Barnes. I could easily see Barnes fall to Milwaukee at 12. I like Swihart though for them.

Are you going to have the mock again this year where different people are the SD?

by backtocali on May 9, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

yeah we’ll get that organized this week

by John Sickels on May 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very Cool

One of my favorite things to do on this site.

by backtocali on May 9, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice mock draft

Seems mostly logical to me.

As a Jays fan, I think Javier Baez makes a lot of sense for them. The more I read about him, the more I see it being a nice fit. The impressions I get of him make me think that he could turn out very similar to Yunel Escobar. Any thoughts on that?

by 4dizzle on May 9, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah i can see the similarities. Baez is said to be a flashy infielder and Escobar is about as flashy as they come. I like Baez he hasgreat bat speed and potential power; i wouldnt mind him being the pick at 21 but im still hoping Josh Bell gets to 21.

by FenixL on May 9, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I see the Bundy to the Astros thing

It’s true they’ve liked high school arms recently, but their model seems to be more focused on tall, projectable athletes with good changeups. Maybe they would go with a different HS arm, but honestly I think one of the college arms might be a better fit for them in this slot. Maybe even Jungmann.

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by OremLK on May 9, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

FInally

a Braves mock that makes some sense. As a UNC guy, I’ve also got a soft spot for Goodwin (even if he liked the puff puff pass a bit too much) ‘cause he’s got some serious talent. I could also see Esposito there.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on May 9, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

hope the giants take Wong

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by Nnamdi Asomugha on May 9, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

The Mets are conservative when drafting past the 1st round. I don’t see why they would be conservative with a top-15 pick.

by nmigliore on May 9, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Even past the first round, the Mets days of being conservative appears over

The new front office has made it clear that they will be aggressive past the first round.

Here’s what Paul DePodesta recently said:

"I think we plan to be aggressive," DePodesta said. "There does get to the point where there are diminishing returns on amateur players, because there are only so many big leaguers out there who are currently amateurs. It doesn’t necessarily make sense to go completely overboard. But I think where it makes sense and we pick our spots, we plan to be aggressive. That was our approach coming in. There’s nothing that’s happened between now and then that’s changed."

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by Russ on May 10, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to see Bundy falling to #11

if you believe some of the reports on him that suggest he’s sitting high 90’s, topping out at 100, with a nasty cutter and curve.

Law said he looked better when he saw him this spring than Taillon looked at any point last year.

He is a short RHP so that stigma could limit his draft ceiling, but I think he could go as high as #3 this year.

by deezle on May 9, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Size

and the attendant projections as to holding velocity late into seasons. Bundy not only has better command, but commands more pitches. Awfully impressive pitcher. I like Law’s latest tagline that Bundy is the h.s. arm that presents college upside.

by blackoutyears on May 9, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he gets past AZ's #7

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by Dan Strittmatter on May 9, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he gets past that point either

But I’d be surprised if AZ took him unless he proves to be VERY signable.

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by Jeff Reese on May 9, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

#7 is an unprotected pick

Bundy would have a lot of leverage in that scenario.

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by Kerm on May 9, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but there's room in the budget

It’s not like that makes him impossible to sign.

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by Dan Strittmatter on May 9, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll spend on #3 overall...

I actually would not be surprised to see them take Bundy at #3 and grab an easier sign at #7.

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by Kerm on May 9, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never seen this combination of ownership & management together for a draft

And never seen it realize that it’s in total re-build mode. Hard to blame KT for not having a history of spending when his career has been spent with the Padres…

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by Dan Strittmatter on May 9, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll see what happens obviously, but at the moment I’m not expecting more than slot bonuses.

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by Jeff Reese on May 10, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything can happen

considering that unprotected picks are usually for players who are easily signable (not Bundy), and with the 7th and the 10th picks being unprotected picks, and that the Indians haven’t drafted a HS player for ages. The first two picks are gonna be occupied by Rendon and Cole, while there are some other very talented college players such as Hultzen, Jed Bradley, and Barnes. Bubba Starling and Francisco Lindor are also excellent HS players too. Although Bundy might not fall to #11, it’s not impossible.

by ilikeburritos on May 9, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rays

I am not big on the first pick. I have a hard time seeing them pass on Owens.

However, I love the Cron pick. The Levi Michael pick is a bit strange though. I know teams don’t really factor in what they need, but you have to believe they would be hesitant to take a defensive first SS when they have Hak Ju Lee near the same level.

by mr. maniac on May 9, 2011 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Levi

He’s more likely to end up at 2B than SS once (if) he gets to the bigs. Plus, 1) you can never have too many MIF prospects, and 2) Lee will be 1-2 levels ahead of Michael by the end of this year.

by dbreer23 on May 9, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Purke

Thoughts on this guy?
Does he go late 1st / supp?
Does he just tell everyone he is coming back for his Jr year?
Does he fall to somewhere in round 5 – 10 where a team (Boston, Detroit, Yankees) will throw a bunch of $$$$ at him?

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by Savoy on May 9, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

he's the most obvious name missing from here, for sure

I could see him being taken in the first 30, in the supplemental round, or even falling to the late 2nd or early 3rd. I think a lot of it depends on how well he does in the next month coming back from the injury.

by pack_fan on May 9, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Henry Owens

He doesn’t seem to fit the mold of the type of HS pitcher that Dick Tidrow likes in the early rounds. If the Giants were to go with a HS pitcher given who was still left in your mock, I would pair them with more of a power arm – like, say, Michael Kelly. However, if the Giants do go with pitches early I predict that they will opt for college pitchers. The Giants are in much more of a win now mode due to the relatively short time frame that they will have control of their best pitchers.

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by Fla-Giant on May 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Tend to agree

that they’ll want a pitcher who can potentially help within the next two years. I think they’re in the same mode as the Reds. OTOH, Owens is one of the more advanced h.s. pitches out there, and I wouldn’t put it past him to move quickly. Though he doesn’t throw as hard at the same stage, and they’re different pitchers, I could see him advancing at the same rate as Bumgarner. He reminds me a bit of Tyler Skaggs as well, with the pitchability, arsenal and potential for a tick more in velo being very intriguing for a h.s. arm.

by blackoutyears on May 9, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could actually see him going to the other side of the bay

The only thing that doesn’t fit with him and the A’s is the fact that he’s a high school pitcher (no small issue, obviously). They love smart lefties with pitchability. Only thing about Owens is that he seems to have lost steam this year.

Don’t think Bell will get to the A’s. He’s getting so many Heyward comps, it’s hard to see him not benefiting from that. Unless Springer falls on bonus demands, I think the A’s are going arm. They need hitting, but their minor league pitching situation is dire. If Jungmann is on the board at 18, I’ll bet a dollar they take him.

by AgitationStation on May 9, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Royals

I am really interested to see what they do they at 5, do they take the local uber tools high schooler starling to start the “2nd wave” of prospects through the system, or do they maybe take their top college arm left, trying to to get another stud who can be arriving in the bigs with the all their other bigtime prospects.

by THESWAMI6 on May 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Very good question

Their current prospect wave is very h.s, and the return on the few college guys taken (Hochevar, Crow) has been mixed. Still, the strength of the draft in the Royals’ range is college pitching, and it would be pretty cool if they popped whoever was left of the top college arms, especially if it was Bauer. I think he’ll move relatively quickly, and could be part of a massive rotation overhaul with Duffy, Monty and Lamb. Regardless, if I’m choosing between a likely field of Hultzen, Bauer, Bradley, Starling and Bundy then I’m thrilled.

by blackoutyears on May 9, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you blind

There is no way that Archie Bradley will sign with the Florida Marlins or any MLB baseball team save for the Yankees out of high school. He has a committment with Oklahoma to play for one of the top football programs in the country. Plus Oklahoma has a good baseball program that has been to the College World Series in the past.

Given those odds, I would go the college route if I am Bradley. If Archie Bradley is drafted out of high school, expect him to go in the later rounds.

Note that this is coming from a Twins fan that would like to see C.J. Cron drafted in the first round. They need a replacement 1st baseman because Justin Morneau has been trash since his July 7th, 2010 concussion against Toronto.

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by Jessy S on May 9, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHA What?

I would be shocked if Archie Bradley doesn’t sign a pro contract. He will be expensive, but his future is in baseball.

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by Jeff Reese on May 9, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradley is a 3 star football prospect

and is not even ranked as a top football prospect in the state of Oklahoma.

He will jump at the chance to sign a pro baseball contract with a mill+ bonus.

Don’t be so naive.

by deezle on May 9, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 start prospect

Yes the last 3 star football prospect whom signed in the first round was Casey Kelly for 4 million bucks. I dont see Florida going in that direction. The only 2 teams I see going that direction is STL and Boston (with the yankees being out of 1st round). If Boston goes with Susac at 19 and then the Cardinals take Bradley at 22. If it came back around at 26 would you try and take Meyer again or would you stand pat with Beede?

by ecuman17 on May 9, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards adding Bradley

would be stunning. Potential trio of Miller, Martinez and Bradley? That’s nice. Tough choice between Meyer and Beede, especially as Meyer is finishing in strong fashion. I like both guys a lot, and adding either to Susac is pretty unfair for a team with the Sox’ resources.

by blackoutyears on May 9, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stunning rotation I agree

Cardinals usually like to draft someone for slot, but similar to Shelby if Bradley fell because of number concerns then they would definately put up the money for another possibly frontline starter. I do agree that Kelly was more of a legitimate prospect in football but someone like Bradley can use it to his advantage especially with smaller market teams.

by ecuman17 on May 9, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly was always a signability concern

same with Zach Lee last year, another 3 star football prospect.

There haven’t been any of the same concerns about Bradley. I haven’t heard one peep about him being an overly difficult sign.

by deezle on May 9, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonus demands don't usually "leak" until a week before the draft though.

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by Kerm on May 9, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said bonus demands

the signability guys are well known early on though. Kelly was one, Lee was one. Bradley is not.

by deezle on May 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bradley

He’s a two sport guy who won’t be signing for anywhere near slot, and will use his OK scholarship as leverage. He’ll have a hefty bonus demand, and be considered one of the toughest signs in the first round. I think he’ll sign, but he will, without a doubt be a “signability guy”, by my definition.

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by Kerm on May 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will get his money

It will be a well overslot deal that is spread over a few years. But he will definitely sign.

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by Jeff Reese on May 9, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

which is why the bitching about Bradley going to Florida in this mock was a complete waste of time.

by deezle on May 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Braves

I don’t see the Braves taking Goodwin—yes, they could use an outfielder and they like tools. But scouts still question the holes in his swing. Cody Johnson redux?

Still, the great thing about the Braves is that they almost always surprise on draft day….

by Stephen in the UAE on May 9, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Stephen
Cody Johnson redux?

No, because Goodwin’s played against top level pitching and done well. He doesn’t have the power of Johnson, but he’s a better all around hitter. Think Torii Hunter, in my eyes.

Also, I like D. Fisher A LOT. Esposito seems like a logical fit (gone down the road of Vandy before, 3B, toolsy, etc.), too.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on May 10, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swihart would be a good pick and all

But I think I heard that he’s pretty determined to go to college. I’m not entirely sure, though. Mahtook would definitely make sense for the 15th pick. However for the 12th pick, if Bundy is gone by then, it could be a tough pick between Swihart and Guerrieri. Either of those players are very tempting to pick for 12th.

by ilikeburritos on May 9, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly like....

Bauer better than Cole. I see his work ethic, his deceptive delivery(which causes less stress than normal on his arm), his athleticism, and his pitching mentallity and I see a top 5 pick. Add all of that to his good stuff and command and he sounds like a future ace. I love watching him pitch. He is going to be a stud and whoever passes on him for Cole is going to be upset. I might even take him #1 overall.

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by joegonzo on May 9, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Bell is by far the best HS player in the draft

Reminds me honestly of a more refined version of Domonic Brown at a younger age.

by Bravesin07 on May 9, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

J-Bell

I agree in that he’s the best high school position player in the draft, ahead of Lindor (who I don’t think will hit with enough power to warrant the hype he’s gotten) and Starling (don’t buy the Hamilton comps)

I am fairly active in the showcase circuit and have watched Bell play numerous times and, IMO, the Brown comp isn’t the best. He isn’t as tall and is a lot more broad than Brown. Brown is a 6’5" stringbean, while Bell is about 6’4" and has the body type that will add weight very easily over the next 2-3 years. I think Bell could end up a mini version of a Heyward type frame. Maybe in the 6’4", 230+ pound range when its done. Plus Bell has MUCH more power and power potential than Brown. The kid can drop bombs while Brown is just starting to figure out how to drive the ball over the wall. Bell also has fairly solid plate discipline and is used to being pitched around. My only concern with him is all the moving parts in his stance and swing. He sets up very open and his hands are moving all over the place as well as a leg kick to close before he swings. It is what they call “a high maintenance swing”.

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by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Swihart

has to be in “best h.s. position player” convo. Legit switch-hitter who’s made great strides learning to catch in a short time. Baez and Fisher are just behind for me.

Bell has reminded me of Cam Maybin from a physical standpoint (same wide shoulders, tapered trunk) since the first time I saw him, and I think someone else tossed that comp out the other day. Not sure about the “MUCH more power than Dom Brown” assertion; Brown has posted tremendous SLG and IsoP numbers in the high minors — hasn’t slugged under .545 at High-A on up — and really doesn’t have anything to prove in terms of raw power.

by blackoutyears on May 10, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

re

wish i had something to contribute on swihart, but haven’t watched him as intently as some of the others.

Baseball America was the one that threw the Bell/Maybin comp a few weeks back

I agree that Bell is built like Maybin is NOW, not as a high schooler, which is saying something because Maybin is 25 and Bell is 17. Maybin has very broad shoulders as does Bell, but while Maybin has gone from 6’4", 175 pounds to 205 pounds since being drafted in 05, Bell is in the 200 pound range already.

Said that about Brown because it took 3-4 years of pro ball for the power to develop and is considered one of the “weaker” of his tools. Bell’s power will be his calling card from the get go

by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Bell is built like Maybin is NOW

Exactly. Maybin hasn’t actually grown that much, but it’s probably because he was already close to his ultimate height. Bell should get larger, and Heyward makes sense as comp, but Maybin/Bell share a specific body type.

You’re underrating Brown’s power. Regardless of when and how it developed, it’s here, has been for two years, and it doesn’t take a backseat to any of his other tools. Regardless, you can’t look at Brown now and say that Bell has MUCH more power or power potential unless you expect Bell to be Bryce Harper or Mike Stanton. It’s a rank overstatement in an otherwise sound set of observations in your post.

I think Brown was a more raw talent when he came out of h.s., another reason the comp doesn’t really work for me, but a lot of evaluators predicted very good power based on his projectability, long levers and bat speed. Bell is a bit more refined imo (as was Maybin FWIW). At this point it doesn’t really matter what Brown’s power projected to in h.s. It is what it is, now, and “weak”, even in your qualified sense, is an inapt modifier.

by blackoutyears on May 10, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

re

Bell has a big frame and from what I’ve heard has grown two inches in the past year. Thats why I say Heyward-light in my comp. Bell Is probably about 6’4", 210 right now, which is similar to what Heyward was. Of course Heyward has grown another 2 inches and added 35 pounds. Granted. all of this is speculation, but I bet Bell ends up at about 6’4", 230 pounds which would be considerably bigger than Maybin.

I like Brown as a prospect, but the main knock on him was his power and how much was going to be translated to the pro game. This time last year there were plenty in the scouting community that thought he would be only a 15-20 HR guy. After last year’s breakout that has been adjusted to 20-25. Power is Bell’s main calling card on the other hand. Most have him as a 70 power bat. I do have questions about Bell’s hit tool due to his stance and swing so we’ll see if that power develops.

Brown, as you say, was very raw out of high school. He had a unqiue situation in which his parents went through a custody battle and Brown played at 3 high schools in two different states. In fact, I posted on this site I thought he was a better prospect as a lefthanded pitcher due to his ideal pitcher’s frame, his athleticism, a 90mph fastball and an advanced changeup

by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

not too reply twice but...

a prospect from Texas I like more than Bell is 2012 OF Nick Williams.
The kid is basically Bell with a better hit tool.

by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams

looks awesome. He’s been considered the best prep prospect, hitter or pitcher, for 2012 over the last year or so and all you have to do is see him to know why.

The knock on Brown was whether he’d ever refine his swing enough to hit at all. Translating power was a decidedly secondary concern. lol One of the hardest things to project with prep hitters is pitch recognition, and the secret to Brown’s success has been that skill. Regardless, 20-25 power (which is a safe estimate, not a ceiling) doesn’t spell many prospects having vastly superior power. The inclusion of MUCH is hyperbolic.

by blackoutyears on May 11, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

and IMO, it even more crazy to say a kid that is in high school has more power than a guy that just hit 22 homers in the high minors last season. I’m guilty of it as the next guy though

by ScottAZ on May 11, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

mmm Barnes

Yes plz. I’d much prefer Bauer over Hultzen, but eh, I wouldn’t complain too much. I’d flip out if AZ selected both Bauer and Barnes.

by CaptainCanuck on May 9, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm still not sure what I think about Lindor.

I’m mostly confident he’s better than all of the non-Starling HS position players, but beyond that…

by SenorGato on May 10, 2011 4:22 AM EDT reply actions  

as mentioned on post above....

I don’t think Lindor has the power potential to warrant the hype he’s gotten. He’s a little guy that isn’t going to grow any more. I’ve seen Lindor play showcases and for Team USA and he is probably about 5’9", 150 pounds (despite being listed at 5’11", 170). I have stood right next to him and the kid appears almost a half a foot shorter than me (I’m 6’2"). I have also seen his father and he is about the same height as Francisco is so its not like a growth spurt can be expected.

So, in my mind, what you have is a kid that is very athletic, can handle SS defensively, but will not hit more than 5-10 HR annually. His lack of power will expose his bat and the walks he draws leaving him to be a 280/330/420 type.

Not that being that would be terrible, the defense would still give him + value, but you don’t spend the #3 pick on a Julio Lugo

by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lugo is an unfair comp

How about Andrus with a better hit tool? You’re drafting Lindor for his glove, polish (could advance rapidly), makeup and good hit tool. And based just on your projection, you do realize that a .750 OPS is quite good for a major league SS, right?

by blackoutyears on May 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lindor

I still don’t take a glove man with a top ten pick in the draft. At that point I want a legit college #1 starter or a tool shed athlete that you can dream the world on. Lindor, at BEST case is Andrus with 40 power instead of 30.

Don’t mistake me saying he is a waste. I’d take him at the end of the 1st round or in the supplemental, but not top 10 picks

by ScottAZ on May 10, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a middle of round guy for me

but then I always look first and longest at the available up-the-middle talents in a draft. And I think Lindor has a better hit tool than Andrus, in addition to the full grade in power you’re granting him. I agree that a h.s. SS probably has to be a Manny Machado type minimum to garner Top 10 consideration in this deep a draft.

by blackoutyears on May 10, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll have to assume

Bauer’s arm doesn’t fall off if he’s going that high. Didn’t he throw almost 140 pitches in a blowout win last month? Good gravy.

Don't stop believin'. And never forget where you came from.

by OnDeck_Matt on May 10, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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