This is to open up some discussion more than anything. Over the past couple of seasons, I've begun to wonder whether the experts are really that great at formulating rankings. They are undoubtedly good at what they do, which is compiling tons of minor league baseball content and opinions and scouting reports. But regardless of their resources and knowledge, I am not always pleased with their final Prospect rankings. And its not only BA, its pretty much every expert opinion. I know they have to keep these interesting, and they have a lot of different talking heads involved. A lot of scouts' opinions to take into account, etc. But after a year, I think my list stands up quite well in comparison. Granted, it is only a year, but this is just for fun. I recognize that we won't be able to truly judge these lists for probably another 10 years or so. Last year was the first year that I spent a great deal of time on my own list though [40+ hours researching/compiling/watching vid/etc], so its the first time I've felt that I had a good shot at making a quality ranking that might stand the test of time.
I always publish my list 2 or 3 weeks ahead of BA's, just to be sure I won't be influenced by their rankings. I do of course use some of their opinions to judge a prospect, but mostly only Callis and Manuel. I also rely on Sickels, Piliere, Law, and Eisenberg. And even some of the members here.
here is the url to my fanpost from last year:
The rankings seen are my own, then I listed BA's, and then the result. a P=push, W= win, L=loss, lol= when they matched my ranking and N/A=injured player or really unsure.
for the results, I figured something like this:
for rankings 1-20 :: anything 3 spots or better is a difference, or a win/loss.
21-50:: 4 spots or more.
51-75:: 5 spots or more.
76-100:: 6 or more.
And this is kind of a loose system, since it isn't always clear whether a prospect should be higher/lower. A lot of it is personal opinion. So if you see some results that are a 'Push' even though the difference is great enough for a result, it's because I was unsure of which way to go or because the range/difference is right in-between where I'd rank the prospect.
I also didn't weigh the results, meaning a win is a win, a loss is a loss. Although I probably should have, as Wil Myers alone might have made my score very impressive.
At the end of the rankings, I have the final tally.
And feel free to provide some feedback... if you feel I was too generous/strict with any of the results. Its not always so clear/straightforward as to whether a prospect deserved to be ranked higher/lower based on his current prospect standing in 2011.
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1. Jason Heyward - OF ATL BA = 1. Result = P
2. Stephen Strasburg - P WAS BA=2. Result =P
3. Buster Posey - C SF BA=7. Result =W
4. Carlos Santana - C CLE BA=10. Result =W
5. Michael Stanton - OF FLA BA =3. Result =P
6. Desmond Jennings - CF TB BA =6. Result =lol.
7. Jesus Montero - C/DH NYY BA =4. Result =P
8. Brian Matusz - P BAL BA =5. Result =P
9. Neftali Feliz - P TEX BA =9. Result =lol.
10. Dustin Ackley - CF/2B SEA BA =11. Result =P
11. Martin Perez - P TEX BA =17. Result =L
12. Domonic Brown - OF PHI BA =15. Result =W
13. Justin Smoak - 1B TEX BA =13. Result =lol
14. Pedro Alvarez - 3B/1B PIT BA =8. Result =W
15. Christian Friedrich - P COL BA =33. Result =L
16. Aroldis Chapman - P CIN BA =22. Result =W
17. Logan Morrison - 1B/OF FLA BA =20. Result =W
18. Jeremy Hellickson - P TB BA =18. Result =lol
19. Jenrry Mejia - P NYM BA =56 Result =N/A
20. Michael Taylor - OF OAK BA =29. Result =L
21. Wade Davis - P TB BA =34. Result =P
22. Chris Carter - 1B/DH OAK BA =28. Result =P
23. Lonnie Chisenhall - 3B CLE BA =31. Result =P
24. Aaron Hicks - CF MIN BA =19. Result =P
25. Matthew Moore - P TB BA =35. Result =W
26. Starlin Castro - SS CHC BA =16. Result =L
27. Kyle Drabek - P TOR BA =25. Result =P
28. Madison Bumgarner - P SF BA =14. Result =L
29. Derek Norris - C WAS BA =38. Result =P
30. Tyler Matzek - P COL BA =23. Result =W
31. Fernando Martinez - OF NYM BA =77. Result =L
32. Casey Kelly - P BOS BA =24. Result =W
33. Freddie Freeman - 1B ATL BA =32. Result =P
34. Alcides Escobar - SS MIL BA =12. Result =W
35. Mike Montgomery - P KC BA =39. Result =P
36. Chris Withrow - P LAD BA =48. Result =L
37. Aaron Crow - P KC BA =40. Result =P
38. Ryan Westmoreland - CF BOS BA =20. Result =N/A
39. Brett Wallace - 1B TOR BA =27. Result =W
40. Devaris Gordon - SS LAD BA =40. Result =P
41. Jordan Lyles - P HOU BA =91. Result =W
42. Julio Teheran - P ATL BA =51. Result =W
43. Todd Frazier - 2B/3B/OF CIN BA =43. Result =lol
44. Casey Crosby - P DET BA =44. Result =P
45. Donovan Tate - CF SD BA =53. Result =L
46. Grant Green - SS OAK BA =52. Result =W
47. Simon Castro - P SD BA =57. Result =P
48. Jacob Turner - P DET BA =26. Result =L
49. Jared Mitchell - CF CHW BA=55. Result =L
50. Hector Rondon - P CLE BA=NR Result =L
51. Wil Myers - C KC BA =NR Result =WWWWW
52. Reid Brignac - SS TB BA =54. Result =P
53. Yonder Alonso - 1B CIN BA =45. Result =P
54. Josh Bell - 3B BAL BA =37. Result =W
55. Jaff Decker - OF SD BA =82. Result =L
56. Arodys Vizcaino - P ATL BA =69. Result =L
57. Alex Colome - P TB BA =68. Result =L
58. Jhoulys Chacin - P COL BA =71. Result =W
59. Brett Lawrie - 2B/OF MIL BA =59. Result =lol
60. Shelby Miller - P STL BA =50 Result =L
61. Kyle Gibson - P MIN BA =61. Result =lol
62. Dan Hudson - P CHW BA =66. Result =P
63. Zach Stewart - P TOR BA =NR Result =L
64. Tanner Scheppers - P TEX BA =42. Result =W
65. Josh Reddick - CF/OF BOS BA =75. Result =P
66. Mike Trout - CF LAA BA =85. Result =W
67. Tim Beckham - SS TB BA =67. Result =lol
68. Tim Melville - P KC BA =NR. Result =L
69. Tyler Flowers - C/DH CHW BA =60. Result =P
70. Mike Moustakas - 3B KC BA =80. Result =W
71. Brett Jackson - CF CHC BA =74. Result =P
72. Jose Iglesias - SS BOS BA =NR. Result =W
73. Zach Britton - P BAL BA =63. Result =L
74. Ryan Kalish - CF BOS BA =NR. Result =W
75. Hank Conger - C LAA BA =84. Result =P
76. Danny Duffy - P KC BA =NR. Result =W
77. Jay Jackson - P CHC BA =98. Result =L
78. Ethan Martin - P LAD BA =NR. Result =L
79. Jake Arrieta - P BAL BA =99. Result =P
80. Josh Vitters - 3B CHC BA =70. Result =W
81. Alex Avila - C DET BA =NR. Result =L
82. Jiovanni Mier - SS HOU BA =73. Result =W
83. Zach Wheeler - P SF BA =49. Result =L
84. James Darnell - 3B SD BA =90. Result =P
85. Matt Dominguez - 3B FLA BA =NR. Result =W
86. Manny Banuelos - P NYY BA =NR. Result =W
87. Mat Gamel - 3B/OF MIL BA =89. Result =P
88. Michael Saunders - OF SEA BA =30. Result =W
89. Nick Weglarz - OF CLE BA =NR. Result =W
90. Hak-Ju Lee - SS CHC BA =NR. Result =P
91. Mike Leake - P CIN BA =72. Result =P
92. Wilmer Flores - SS NYM BA =88. Result =P
93. Jason Castro - C HOU BA =41. Result =W
94. Jarrod Parker - P ARI BA =36. Result =N/A
95. Alex White - P CLE BA =65. Result =L
96. Scott Sizemore - 2B DET BA =NR. Result =P
97. Austin Romine - C NYY BA =86. Result =W
98. Tony Sanchez - C PIT BA =79. Result =L
99. Austin Jackson - CF DET BA =76. Result =P
100. Danny Espinosa - SS WAS BA =NR. Result =W
101. Drew Storen - RP WAS BA =92. Result =P
104. Ike Davis - 1B NYM BA =62. Result =L
105. Thomas Neal - OF SF BA =96. Result =P
108. Nick Hagadone - P CLE BA =44. Result =W
111. Travis D'Arnaud - C TOR BA =81. Result =W
115. Noel Arguelles - P KC BA =100. Result =W
116. Jason Knapp - P CLE BA =64. Result =N/A
121. Miguel Sano - SS MIN BA =94. Result =L
123. Chad James - P FLA BA =78. Result =L
131. Wilson Ramos - C MIN BA =58. Result =L
135. Andrew Cashner - SP/RP CHC BA =95. Result =L
146. Phillipe Aumont - P PHI BA =93. Result =W
HM. Peter Bourjos - OF LAA BA =97. Result =P
NR. Adam Moore - C SEA BA =83. Result =W
NR. Lars Anderson - 1B BOS BA =87. Result =W
Final Tally:
Mine::: 38 wins
BA::: 29 wins
Push/Tie::: 36
Lol/Exact: 8/100
NA: 4
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