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Baseball-Intellect: White Sox Top Prospects of 2011

 

For those interested, here is my White Sox top prospect list.  Links are below:

White Sox Top Prospects, No's 1 - 5

White Sox Top Prospects, No's 6 - 15

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Some thoughts...I really like Chris Sale.  He would have been a straight A-, but I'm not fully confident that the White Sox will stick with him as a starter.

I know his mechanics got a ton of debate here, so I addressed those concerns and his arm action specifically. 

I also found Rienzo's mechanics on the unique side (somewhat Lincecum-esque)...I think I underrated Addison Reed a bit, and could revise his grade before all is said and done.  I look forward to addressing any feedback, but I probably won't be able to address it till tomorrow afternoon.  Here is the full list...

1. Chris Sale | LHP | Age – 22 | Grade – A-/B+

2. Brent Morel | 3b | Age – 24 | Grade – B-

3. Jared Mitchell | OF | Age – 22 | Grade – B-

4. Jacob Petricka | RHP | Age – 21 | Grade – B-

5. Trayce Thompson | OF | Age – 20 | Grade – C+

6. Addison Reed | RHP | Age – 23 | Grade – C+

7. Eduardo Escobar | SS | Age – 22 | Grade – C+

8. Tyler Flowers | C/1b | Age – 25 | Grade – C+

9. Greg Infante | RHP | Age – 23 | Grade – C+

10. Thomas Royse | RHP | Age – 22 | Grade – C+

11. Andre Rienzo | RHP | Age – 22 | Grade – C+

12. Tyler Saladino | SS | Age – 21 | Grade – C+

13. Brandon Short | OF | Age – 22 | Grade – C+

14. Anthony Carter | RHP | Age – 25 | Grade – C

15. Matt Heidenreich | RHP | Age – 20 | Grade – C

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What are your thoughts on Eduardo Escobar?

KG gave him a four-star rating as Chicago’s No. 2 prospect… obviously he’s on the bullish side of things, but could be a legitimate replacement for Alexei long-term?

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by Satchel Price on Feb 4, 2011 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure to be honest...

I’m intrigued by him, and I think he’s a guy who should definitely have a long career in a utility role.

But his plate discipline is a concern. He strikes out too much for somebody who doesn’t hit for power.

I can see him as a .280/.325/.405/.730 hitter with above average defense. I don’t star potential though.

by Alex Eisenberg on Feb 4, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t star potential though.

Yeah… he projects as a solid (almsot) everywhere, impact nowhere kind of player IMO. Not much margin for error either.

by alskor on Feb 4, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he seems rather not solid at all offensively.

which is kind of a big issue. maybe he makes a step forward. but i fail to see the projection for it.

by larry on Feb 5, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s hard to look past his non-production offensively, but he does have some tools to work with. His hands are quick and he’s strong for his size. Sometimes players are able to put it together, though most don’t.

by Alex Eisenberg on Feb 5, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE Sale's stuff

But I can’t be the only one that fears he will have TJ in the future. Just look at this. It just looks ugly. I’m hoping he stays healthy because I love his arm slot he is going to induce a insane amount of grounders with his fast ball with that sink.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2a5n8dy.jpg

by Dr Mcsexy on Feb 4, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

there isn't any scientific data...

to back up the claim that pitchers with mechanics like Sale put them at greater risk for TJ surgery. Pitchers have TJ surgery all the time and they come from pitchers with mechanics of all stripes.

To counter those who make that claim, I point to Mickey Lolich, the most durable pitcher in Major League history. 3600 innings, including a 376 inning season…not one arm related injury in his career. And check out his arm action…

Also, if you compare the animation you linked to the animation in my article of him with the White Sox, you’ll see his timing is much better. It’s a cleaner arm action he has.

Sale’s arm action is a little more extreme than Lolich’s, but I have to point out, as I said in his write up, the height of his elbow is distorted as it relates to the shoulder because Sale bends over at the waist. This is especially true for the White Sox animation.

by Alex Eisenberg on Feb 4, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I'm about as worried about his chances of having TJ as I am of the chances of any young pitcher having TJ

It’s high because he’s a young pitcher, not because the mechanics are bad. My biggest concerns for him are that he might hurt his arm as he attempts to make adjustments in developing major league quality command and breaking ball consistency. Both could hurt his chances of being a starter long-term . . .but few pitchers at his stage of development are lacking in things that could hurt their chances of being a starter. Drew Pomeranz and Matt Harvey (to name two guys taken ahead of him in this draft) have some serious flaws of their own and lack Sale’s pro experience, and yet both seem to get more credit as future major league starters than Sale.

by mrkupe on Feb 4, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he's actually adjusted his swing a bit

since college. He’s adjusted the placement of his hands, lowered them a bit and moved them closer to the back of the shoulder. He also widened his base for better balance. I didn’t get a chance see him from the side angle in the AFL, so I’m not sure if his swing has gotten long on him.

From what I could tell, his timing looked off in the AFL. I think there are a couple of adjustments he can make with his swing, but nothing major. For instance, he uses a toe tap as a timing mechanism, and then takes a tiny stride forward — I’d like him to lengthen that stride. But ultimately, I think he needs to get his timing right first.

His contact rate will likely be dictated by how well he can recognize different pitch types. He’ll swing through his fair share of pitches, but he covers the plate well, and he’s flashed an ability to adjust to breaking balls in mid-air.

by Alex Eisenberg on Feb 4, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

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