Community Positional Prospect #28
by auclairkeithbc on Dec 9, 2011 10:18 AM EST
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PrintWith 22.7% of the open vote and 70.5% of the runoff, Anthony Gose is elected Positional Prospect #27.
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RESULTS:
Anthony Gose: 22.7% (70.5% In Runoff)
Josh Bell: 24.2% (29.5% In Runoff)
George Springer: 16.7%
Gary Sanchez: 12.1%
Leonys Martin: 4.5%
Starling Marte: 4.5%
Jean Segura: 3.0%
Michael Choice: 3.0% (write in)
Ryan Lavarnway: 3.0% (write in)
Jedd Gyorko: 1.5%
Kolten Wong: 1.5%
Will Middlebrooks: 1.5%
Nick Castellanos: 1.5% (write in)
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CANDIDATES: Josh Bell, George Springer, Gary Sanchez, Leonys Martin, Starling Marte, Wilin Rosario, Gary Brown, Nick Castellanos, Michael Choice, Tim Wheeler
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IN ROTATION: Ryan Lavarnway (#26-1.5%), Mikie Mahtook (#26-1.5%), Jonathan Schoop (#26-0%), Jean Segura (#27-3.0%), Jedd Gyorko (#27-1.5%), Kolten Wong (#27-1.5%), Will Middlebrooks (#27-1.5%)
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TESTERS: Billy Hamilton, Rymer Liriano, Eddie Rosario, Cory Spangenberg, Mason Williams, James Darnell, Garin Cecchini, Javier Baez, Marcell Ozuna, Andrelton Simmons, Oswaldo Arcia, Matt Szczur, Aaron Hicks, Joe Panik, Matt Davidson, Derek Norris, Christian Bethancourt, Brandon Jacobs, Robbie Grossman
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#01 - BRYCE HARPER - 59.2%
#02 - MIKE TROUT - 38.8% (In Poll #1)
#03 - JURICKSON PROFAR - 52.9%
#04 - MANNY MACHADO - 31.5% (55.1% In Runoff)
#05 - DEVIN MESORACO - 45.1%
#06 - WILL MYERS - 31.6% (51.4% In Runoff)
#07 - JESUS MONTERO - 61.3%
#08 - ANTHONY RENDON - 53.1%
#09 - TRAVIS D'ARNAUD - 46.6%
#10 - NOLAN ARENADO - 33.3%
#11 - MIGUEL SANO - 37.3%
#12 - YONDER ALONSO - 22.5% (45.3% In 3-Way Runoff)
#13 - FRANCISCO LINDOR - 26.1%
#14 - BUBBA STARLING - 33.8%
#15 - XANDER BOGAERTS - 25.0% (55.2% In 3-Way Runoff)
#16 - ANTHONY RIZZO - 27.8%
#17 - OSCAR TAVERAS - 40.3%
#18 - BRETT JACKSON - 20.3% (58.7% In Runoff)
#19 - YASMANI GRANDAL - 31.3%
#20 - JAKE MARISNICK - 27.3%
#21 - HAK-JU LEE - 28.0%
#22 - NICK FRANKLIN - 24.3%
#23 - CHESLOR CUTHBERT - 30.3%
#24 - CHRISTIAN YELICH - 27.1%
#25 - JONATHAN SINGLETON - 21.9% (53.8% In Runoff)
#26 - MIKE OLT - 21.5% (67.7% In Runoff)
#27 - ANTHONY GOSE -22.7% (70.5% In Runoff)
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Yoenis Cespedes
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 9, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Dominguez
It’s like he has died as a prospect or, something but, he is actually alive and living in Miami, I believe. What is interesting about him to me, is how much the way a team chooses to develop a guy effects the way we percieve them.
Take Mike Olt for instance? What actually separates 26th position prospect and, Dominguez? Answer: walks. Dominguez has similar power, similar defenseive rep and, is a year younger. Matt has an edge tyoo- he swings and misses less. Dominguez, however, was playing at Olt’s level in 2009!. He also had an OLT-like season in AA in 2010, at the age of 20
i think he could have learned to walk a few more times if he played in High A for another two years – as well as next season too, where they would be at similar stages of development. I think you could make a decent argument that Dominguez is as good as Mike Olt.
" Kenny G has a Christmas album out this year. Hey, happy birthday, Jesus! Hope you like crap! " - Norm MacDonald
er....what?
1) walks are really important. all else being equal, the difference between a guy who’s walking 8-9% in the minors vs. walking 13-14% in the minors is maybe 40 spots to me. depends on how high the first guy is.
2) similar power? where on earth are you getting that from? it sure hasn’t shown up in the ISO’s
Walks are important, but how predictive of ML performance?
Dominguez v. Olt is awfullly interesting. I think the best argument for Dominguez is simply that he’s a year younger and two levels higher than Olt and while behind in terms of production, still produces respectable peripherals.
My real question is how well walk rates hold up across levels. It has always seemed to me that walk rates tend to converge more than strikeout rates: high walk rates in the minors regress quite a bit (unless they are really good major league hitters), while lots of prospects with low walk rates in the lower minors are able to reach respectable levels. Do I simply have a mistaken impression?
. because you won’t look at the context of the numbers bb. Yes Olt Iso’d .237 in high A and, Dominguez iso’d .158 but . . . Dominguez was 19 and, Olt was 22. Dominguez just turned 22. He has been out of high A for two years.
The question, to me, is how would Olt have looked if he was foisted into aaa this year or, how would Dominguez have looked if he played high a again next season. I don’t think they are that different of ballplayers. Frankly, I doubt both of thier offensive abilities at the major league level
" Kenny G has a Christmas album out this year. Hey, happy birthday, Jesus! Hope you like crap! " - Norm MacDonald
i'll give you the age issue
but i don’t really recall anybody projecting Dominguez to have power, or be good with the bat in general
everything i’ve heard is that Dominguez is an all-glove weak bat 3B prospect
by blue bulldog on Dec 10, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
Well, look at his record
I’m not saying he’s a great hitter or anything but, he hits 30 doubles and 15 homers a year or so. His iso is .163 and Olt’s is .203, with the age difference.
" Kenny G has a Christmas album out this year. Hey, happy birthday, Jesus! Hope you like crap! " - Norm MacDonald
Aaaron Hicks
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 9, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
i see him and Rosario up there now
Yoenis Cespedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Dec 9, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
please rec
each player heading so the names will appear all green and nice-nice. thanks!
by auclairkeithbc on Dec 9, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
you got it ak
I got ’em all to four and, someone is following me to get them all green and perdy :)
"No good marriage ends in divorce" - Louis C.K.
Of course!
I should have known :) What would this list be without us cdb? Probably the same, thanks to ak here but, we do our part..
"No good marriage ends in divorce" - Louis C.K.
oh definitely
we do what others would do…just quicker….not sure what that says about us though :)
by cookiedabookie on Dec 10, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
Lavarnway
Lavarnway’s finally getting some love. I think it’s overdue:
1. The scouting reports on his catching are not good, but not terrible. The data we have on his catching is decent. He looks more likely than not to stick at catcher.
2. He just destroyed the minor leagues this year.
He’s ready now, he can hit, and he might well be a catcher. If he sticks at catcher, he’s an above-average player. Does Gary Sanchez really have more upside? Lavarnway’s floor is significantly higher, and I’m unconvinced his upside is far from Sanchez’. Lavarnway’s chances of being a plus MLB regular seem substantially higher to me than the others who are in the discussion at this point. (Super-high upside is a huge deal; I think Oscar Hernandez of the Rays is a top-100 prospect despite the high possibility of total washout. But in the unlikely event Lavarnway hits his 2011 MLE’s in Boston this year…. that’s a monster.)
Agreed
And have argued the same point elsewhere. Glad to see some others are joining me in voting for him.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 10, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Good points
Lavarnway has definitely flown below the radar for me, possibly due to a distaste to look at anything Red Sox-related for longer than 5 seconds. But if his defence is indeed passable, I think he’s clearly among the top 4 or so left on the list, right there with Bell & Springer for me. I think one can make the argument for Michael Choice and maybe Gary Brown as well, but I’m tentatively slotting him in after Springer for me Bell-Springer-Lavarnway-Choice-Brown, and I could move Lavarnway further up.
I would just say
That Lavarnway has proven he can mash advanced pro pitching – neither Bell nor Springer have done that yet.
by cookiedabookie on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Voting Closed
We are going to runoff Springer and Bell as they are tied and no one else is too close.
by auclairkeithbc on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions
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