Rating last year's rookies-Community Prospect #23
by Dalman on Dec 6, 2011 9:56 AM EST
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Jemile Weeks wins the runoff over Vance Worley. Our winners so far include:
1. Brett Lawrie, 3b Toronto Blue Jays (51%)
2, Eric Hosmer, 1b Kansas City Royals (57%)
3. Michael Pineda, P Seattle Mariners (38%)
4. Dustin Ackley, 2b Seattle Mariners (41%)
5. Desmond Jennings, of Tampa Bay Rays (47%)
6. Jeremy Hellickson, P Tampa Bay Rays (49%)
7. Freddie Freeman, 1B Atlanta Braves (45%)
8. Brandon Beachy, P Atlanta Braves (27%)
9. Brandon Belt, OF/!B San Francisco Giants (33%)
10. Mike Moustakas, 3b Kansas City Royals (38%)
11. Domonic Brown, of Philadelphia Phillies (32%) (70% runoff)
12. Jason Kipnis, 2b Cleveland Indians 29%
13. Cory Luebke, P San Diego Padres 19% (59% runoff)
14. Paul Goldschmidt, 1b Arizona Diamondbacks 26%
15. Danny Espinosa, 2b Washington Nationals 36%
16. Craig Kimbrel, P Atlanta Braves, 38%
17. Aroldis Chapman, P Cincinnati Reds 56%
18. Wilson Ramos, C Washington Nationals 38%
19. Chris Sale, P Chicago White Sox 26%
20. Mike Minor, P Atlanta Braves 40%
21. Salvador Perez, C Kansas City Royals 24%
22. Jemile Weeks, 2b Oakland A's 26% (67% runoff)
The voting breakdown after Weeks was: Vance Worley 26% (33% runoff). Danny Duffy 13% (write in), Mark Trumbo 10%, Lucas Duda 6%, Jose Altuve 6% (write in), Henderson Alvarez 3%, Zach Britton 3%, Dee Gordon 3%, Allen Craig 3% (write in). Kyle Drabek Ben Revere, Mike Carp and Josh Collmenter all got 0%.
Kyle Drabek, Ben Revere, Mike Carp and Josh Collmenter are all permanently dropped. I'm going temporarily drop Henderson Alvarez, Zach Britton and Dee Gordon, putting them back into rotation and try to get them back on the ballot in the last round.
We'll bring back Kenley Jansen, Aaron Crow, Jose Altuve, Juan Nicasio and Danny Duffy this round.
In rotation: JD Martinez 0% (round 20), Dayan Viciedo 0% (round 20), Ivan Nova 0% (round 20), Alex Cobb 0% (round 20), Jordan Walden 3% (round 21), Allen Craig 3% (round 21), Lonnie Chisenhall 3% (round 21), Zach Britton 3% (round 22), Dee Gordon 3% (round 22), Henderson Alvarez 3% (round 22)
permanently dropped: Kyle Drabek, Ben Revere, Mike Carp and Josh Collmenter
We'll give Tyler Chatwood his first time on the ballot this round, leaving as possible testers for the last few rounds:
Jordan Lyles, Jerry Sands, Craig Gentry, Al Alberquerque, Kyle Seager, Eric Thames and Greg Holland.
As always voting is by +1 and there are places below to vote for players not currently on the ballot or to say which tester your prefer.
So who is your number 23 prospect for future performance among last year's rookies?
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Brian Bogusevic
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"We did a lot of good things last year, and now we've got Julio ... That does nothing but improve the offense, and we expect to do better. That's our goal, to lead the NFL in everything. Every offensive category." -Roddy White
Altuve
I’ve been voting for him for a couple of rounds now. Essentially, I see most of the pitchers left on this list as either having a medium-to-high probability of flaming out (Nicasio), or having low ceilings (Worley), while Altuve looks likely to plug right along as an at least league-average second baseman. Give me the middle infielder. Him or Dee Gordon at this point for me.
How low is Worley's ceiling?
Barely any improvement over last year’s numbers?
by auclairkeithbc on Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Point taken
But I think if people thought last year was “real” for Worley, he would have gone much, much earlier. Luck involved last year, but not just BABIP/LOB% luck – his K-rate in the minors averaged out in the 6’s, he was never young for his level, and then he hits the majors and puts up 8+K’s/9.
And he did so with the same repertoire of pitches: 90 mph FB, average slider, bleow average change. His only significantly plus pitch last year, statistically, was the fastball, and I don’t see that 90 mph FB as a real “plus pitch”. Color me skeptical.
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