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Miami Marlins Top 20 Prospects for 2012

Third baseman Matt Dominguez of the Florida Marlins plays against the New York Mets at Sun Life Stadium on September 7, 2011 in Miami Gardens, Florida.  (Photo by Marc Serota/Getty Images)

Miami Marlins Top 20 Prospects for 2012

The list and grades are a blending of present performance and long-term potential. Comments are welcome, but in the end all analysis and responsibility is mine of course. Full reports on all of players can be found in the 2012 Baseball Prospect Book. We are now taking pre-orders. Order early and order often!

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QUICK PRIMER ON GRADE MEANINGS:

Grade A prospects are the elite. They have a good chance of becoming stars or superstars. Almost all Grade A prospects develop into major league regulars, if injuries or other problems don't intervene. Note that is a major "if" in some cases.

Grade B prospects have a good chance to enjoy successful careers. Some will develop into stars, some will not. Most end up spending several years in the majors, at the very least in a marginal role.

Grade C prospects are the most common type. These are guys who have something positive going for them, but who may have a question mark or three, or who are just too far away from the majors to get an accurate feel for. A few Grade C guys, especially at the lower levels, do develop into stars. Many end up as role players or bench guys. Some don't make it at all.

A major point to remember is that grades for pitchers do NOT correspond directly to grades for hitters. Many Grade A pitching prospects fail to develop, often due to injuries. Some Grade C pitching prospects turn out much better than expected.

Also note that there is diversity within each category. I'm a tough grader; Grade C+ is actually good praise coming from me, and some C+ prospects turn out very well indeed.

Finally, keep in mind that all grades are shorthand. You have to read the full comment in the book for my full opinion about a player, the letter grade only tells you so much. A Grade C prospect in rookie ball could end up being very impressive, while a Grade C prospect in Triple-A is likely just a future role player.

1) Christian Yelich, OF, Grade B+: Pure hitter with decent power, surprising speed, ex-first baseman adapted well to outfield defense. Class of the system. Grade might go higher if he resolves problems against left-handed pitching.

2) Marcell Ozuna, OF, Grade B: Some risk here with plate discipline issues, but power/speed upside is excellent and he made progress last year with contact. Good throwing arm and range as well.

3) Jose Fernandez, RHP, Grade B: Highest-upside arm in the system, could be a rotation anchor although some think he'll be a closer. 2011 first-round pick who hasn't pitched much yet.

4) J.T. Realmuto, C, Grade B-: Borderline B. Good athleticism and power potential, needs some work with the strike zone and defensive polish. If he adds those, could be much higher next year and one of the best catching prospects in the game.

5) Matt Dominguez, 3B, Grade B-: Glove looks terrific, both on paper and in person. He has some power, but is not going to hit for average and doesn't draw walks. Still young enough to improve, but at this point has more value for a real team than a fantasy one. Comp: Pedro Feliz.

6) Rob Rasmussen, LHP, Grade B-: Slow start last year but pitched better as season progressed. Needs to get the walks down. Projects as number three or four starter.

7) Chad James, LHP, Grade B-: Velocity was down a bit last year, but he threw more strikes. Also projects as a number three or four starter. Gave up a lot of hits and will face important adaption to Double-A but is still young at 21.

8) Adam Conley, LHP, Grade B-: I like him, another lefty who could be number three or four starter if his breaking ball improves to match his fastball and changeup. Could return to closing if it doesn't.

9) Noah Perio, 2B, Grade C+:
Line drive hitter with gap power, some speed, athleticism, potential to be a fine defender although he isn't yet, young at age 20. Low walk rate is a hindrance.

10) Mason Hope, RHP, Grade C+: Overshadowed in Oklahoma high school ranks by teammate Arizona first round pick Archie Bradley and Orioles first round pick Dylan Bundy, but this fifth rounder has a live arm and threw strikes in rookie ball. Aggressive ranking but this is a thin system.

11) Jose Ceda, RHP, Grade C+: Age 25 now but still counts as a rookie. Plus velocity, but command issues limit him to middle relief. Could get a shot as a closer if Heath Bell implodes.

12) Charlie Lowell, LHP, Grade C+: Wichita State ace lasted until the sixth round despite second-round buzz pre-draft. Throws hard, command needs some work, but could rank much next year.

13) Kyle Jensen, OF, Grade C+: Fits into the Jerry Sands/Casper Wells category: power bat, good numbers, big guy, scouts have doubts about his swing but has better tools than his reputation. Let's see how he hits in Double-A/Triple-A.

14) Mark Canha, 1B-OF, Grade C+: Advanced college bat from University of California showed power in the Sally League but we need to see him at higher levels.

15) Kevin Mattison, OF, Grade C+: Speedy outfielder added to 40-man roster, drew notice after strong Arizona Fall League. Good glove, hustles, plate discipline is spotty and he gets too power-conscious at times, could be good fourth outfielder if he stays within himself, but never hit before this year, which makes me cautious.

16) Grant Dayton, LHP, Grade C+: Fanned 99 in 72 innings in the Sally League. Auburn product throws hard, could move quickly as relief asset.

17) Jose Urena, RHP, Grade C: Throws hard and drew notice from scouts in the New York-Penn League. High ceiling, but secondary pitches need a lot of work and he fanned just 48 in 73 innings.

18) Jesus Solorzano, OF, Grade C: Toolsy type, hit .299 and stole 18 bases in Gulf Coast League. Good glove, needs better plate discipline, power potential draws mixed reviews.

19) Scott Cousins, OF, Grade C: Still a rookie. Average power, average speed, good throwing arm, hits left, perfect fourth/fifth outfield profile.

20) Chris Hatcher, RHP, Grade C: Converted catcher, adapted quickly to mound work, hits mid-90s, still refining secondary stuff but reached majors in first year of full-time pitching.

OTHERS: Pete Andrelczyk, RHP; Austin Barnes, C; Michael Brady, RHP; Austin Brice, C; Kevin Cravey, RHP; Ramon Del Orbe, RHP; Jacob Esch, RHP; Isaac Galloway, OF, Dan Jennings, LHP; Kyle Kaminska, RHP; Scott Lyman, RHP; Matthew Montgomery, RHP; Jobduan Morales, C-1B; Joey O'Gara, RHP; Omar Poveda, RHP; Ryan Rieger, 1B; Jose Rodriguez, RHP; Kyle Skipworth, C.

This system isn't empty, but it is pretty thin. Yelich and Ozuna give some hope for the future outfield, with Yelich showing a good balance of skills in his full-season debut. Ozuna's tools stand out and he made progress refining them last year, but he still carries significant risk. Realmuto will rank much higher in a year if he can polish up his defense. Everybody knows about Dominguez: great glove, but will he hit? It looks like role players beyond this group with few guys who project as regulars.

On the mound, Fernandez is the only one who looks like someone you build your rotation around, and we don't know how his skills will translate to pro ball yet. I like Mason Hope a lot, but again, we need to see him pitch. Rasmussen, James, Conley, and Lowell could all develop into mid-rotation starters if they max their talent out, but all four come with serious question-marks too. Will Rasmussen's K/BB improve? How will James adapt to Double-A? How will Conley and Lowell transition from college to the pro ranks?

There is some future material for the bullpen, with Ceda the best of the group.

Overall, this is not a very exciting system.

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Matt Dominguez

If Han Ram accepts the move to 3rd, what is going to happen to him? In that case it looks like they won’t have to worry about his bat, because he won’t be playing much…at least for the Marlins.

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Trade bait

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 18, 2011 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Is

there a reason they don’t move Hanley to 2B, or even try him at CF? They have Infante at 2B right, but I’d take Dominguez over him.

Or trade bait.

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 18, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

postion move

If Han Ram is so head strong about staying at short…I dont see why they wouldnt move Reyes to CF or 2nd seeming that Reyes would have no problem with it. I don’t know why in the world they would trade Ham Ram unless they could get King’s Ransom for him

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Because

Reyes can play a competent SS and Hanley can’t (or only barely can)?

by A Behemoth on Dec 18, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think

That the problems with Hanley at SS (too big, not fast enough, range issues) are probably still issues if he plays at 2B. Also, it appears that the Marlins don’t have much faith in Dominguez, and they have nobody else really at 3rd.

by A Behemoth on Dec 18, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Good

point. 3B is more about reactions and 2B about range, at least the way I see it. Maybe Dominguez can move to 2B?

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 18, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

2nd base

I think they would rather have Reyes or Han Ram at 2nd over Infante but I think they would rather trade Dominguez and get something back for him rather than put him there. Dominguez has much more trade value than Infante

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how much trade value Dominguez has

When the Marlins wouldn’t play him last year. No more than a secondary piece in a bigger deal imo. Could he play other positions well enough to be a utility guy?

by A Behemoth on Dec 18, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Han Ram fielding

according to many fielding/range stats that I have looked at for the 2 (reyes and han ram) Han Ram “saved” more runs at short last year than reyes did…

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not

sure what numbers you are looking at.

Hanley : 2011 UZR/150 : – 10.2
Reyes : 2011 UZR/150 : -3.6

Hanley : Career UZR/150 : -9.1
Reyes : Career UZR/150 : 2.1

by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 18, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

stats

I looked at baseball references stats. Should have used fan graphs though haha…much more reliable

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

Defensive stats are all still an approximation at best. Best idea is to take as many different defensive metrics as possible and if they all agree, then there’s probably something to it. If they don’t, then something’s off.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 19, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Buried somewhere deep inside Kyle Shipworth is a baseball player..

..whether it actually comes out of hibernation is another story.

You can’t help but scratch your head after watching him.

by Kelsdad on Dec 18, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

This gets said a lot...

But maybe a change of scenery would help him?

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Dec 18, 2011 5:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agreed

I have heard stories about him in high school. The kid wouldn’t stop raking! He will only be 22 though on opening day next year though.

by ZeFreed on Dec 18, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

somewhat OT...

Any concerns about the Marlins’ new park getting into the heads of the hitters the way Petco has for Padre hitters?

-peter

by PeterF on Dec 18, 2011 5:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

What's the opinion on the new park?

I have just been wondering, but read nothing. From your comment, I gather it’s expected to be an extreme pitcher’s park?

by siddfynch on Dec 18, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw an article

That said (and this is going off memory) that had the corners at 335 & 350, the power-allies at 390ish, and 420 to CF… Part of what makes Petco extreme are the atmospheric conditions. Miami won’t have those and is absolutely an unknown but it sure looks like an extreme pitchers’ park…

-peter

by PeterF on Dec 18, 2011 5:37 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Jesus that's huge. Comerica's center field, PetCo's right, SafeCo's alleys.

But as you mentioned, outside factors contribute more than anything else. SafeCo sits near Elliott Bay, which streams in moist and dense air during the afternoon / evenings, making it harder for balls to fly out of the stadium. When the roof is closed, the air is less dense and balls travel farther.

Miami might not have that kind of thing, but it can get pretty breezy and muggy in places in Florida. We’ll see.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 19, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Moist air actually makes the ball travel farther

Common misconception a lot of people have, but water is less dense in gaseous form than the other things that make up air. The difference is still relatively small compared to things like altitude and temperature, but its there.

by nixa37 on Dec 19, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

Yeah, who knows? We just don’t know how it will play. I would assume pro-pitching but how big will be the effect? No way to tell yet

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Dominguez

From the Matt Dominguez write-up: … "but at this point has more value for a real team than a fantasy one. "

Have we really come to the point where this is considered a bad thing?!?

by Frayed Knot on Dec 18, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

of course not

Of course not. I am just making the point because a lot of people look at these lists for fantasy purposes.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true

In fact, I’d love to see a list or write-up of prospects whose value swings the most (in either direction) when you look at them from a real-life or fantasy standpoint.

by KanyeBest on Dec 18, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Good idea

That’s a good idea.

Personally I think more about real baseball than fantasy, but I know who my audience is, so my lists tend to hybrid the two approaches.

by John Sickels on Dec 18, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

what

i can’t have an opinion about the marlins farm system, that’s not ok, all right, noted

by wily mo on Dec 19, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Just do a little better than "meh, next team".

Being dismissive might be an opinion, but it’s also without context. You should expect backlash when you’re not clearer on your thoughts.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 19, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean

what if my opinion is that there’s not much to talk about (hint: it is)

you guys are being weird

by wily mo on Dec 19, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean

seriously, if i came in and said “this is a pretty weak system, depleted by X, y, blah blah blah” and belabored the point for six boring as heck paragraphs, would anybody say anything? no

but if i’m efficient and make the same point with 2 words people get pissed

why

because you’re haters

by wily mo on Dec 19, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont want to get into an argument

because I’m just reading this now, but the point some are trying to make is a comment like that has the potential to be read as a shot at John and the list, or basically not noting how much work went into the list.

If you had literally said, “meh, weak system”, no one would say anything. But how you typed it, and that fact we are reading it over the internet and have no way to see the connotation of how you are saying this

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 19, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

this is at least a well articulated point. but i feel like asking for the next team conveys the message that i enjoy reading what john writes, if you think about it

by wily mo on Dec 20, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Brad Hand

Just out of curiosity, what grade would Brad Hand get if he were still prospect eligible? Thanks John.

by two fishsticks on Dec 18, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

dayton

is his name grant?

"Hello. My name is Matthew Berry. I am on a Fantasy Jihad. Prepare to die!"

by Dominatio on Dec 19, 2011 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Realmuto v. AJ Jimenez

John – Realmuto is nearly a year younger but played a level lower. Both graded a B- but who has the higher ceiling of the two young catchers? Thanks,

by Traindogger on Dec 19, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

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