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Devin Mesoraco vs. Yasmani Grandal



While John is away, he asked if I would be interested in writing up a piece comparing the Cincinnati Reds 2007 first round draft pick Devin Mesoraco to the Cincinnati Reds 2010 first round draft pick Yasmani Grandal. If you are unaware of who I am, I run and operate RedsMinorLeagues.com and have since 2005. Let me preface this by saying that I have never seen Yasmani Grandal play live, so everything is either second hand information or something I picked up while watching video online, while I have seen Devin Mesoraco play live over 40 times in the past year.

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Offensive value

Devin Mesoraco:  Mesoraco is coming off of an outstanding season in 2010 where he spent time in A+, AA and AAA where he posted a triple slash line of .302/.377/.587 with 26 home runs in 397 at bats. The reason for his dramatic turnaround could be two fold. First, 2010 was the first season that he was able to stay healthy for the entire season. Secondly, he made some changes to his swing that helped get him into a better position to open up his previous untapped power potential. Tools wise, Mesoraco has above average power and a solid hit tool. He also has shown solid plate discipline throughout his minor league career.

Yasmani Grandal: Grandal played for all of a week in late August after signing with the Reds, so paying attention to any stats that he put up during his short stint as a pro is pretty meaningless. While in college, he showed good power overall as well as excellent plate discipline. As a switch hitter,  Grandal is currently better from the right side of the plate than he is from the left, but from the left side he does have more potential. Tools wise, Grandal has more power potential from his left side than his right and overall probably grades out as above average. His hit tool is a little more questionable than his power though as he doesn’t have the bat speed and his swing can get a little long at times.

Defensive value

Devin Mesoraco: While he had some severe struggles behind the plate the first two years as a pro, he began to turn things around in the 2009 season behind the plate. Mesoraco has an above average arm and it is often accurate which can be seen by his caught stealing rate over 40% in the 2010 season. As a receiver, he has an issue with passed balls at times but there doesn’t seem to be a reason to believe that he isn’t an average receiving catcher behind the plate. He is quite athletic and has very good footwork that shows up on plays in front of the plate as well as when he is throwing down attempted base stealers.

Yasmani Grandal: The reports on Grandal behind the plate, much like Mesoraco, have seemed to have improved over the last two seasons. Grandal has an average arm behind the plate, but it plays down slightly as his footwork could be improved. His arm has improved its accuracy through his time in college and now considered to be an accurate one. His athleticism behind the plate is average or perhaps a tick below.

Overall value

Devin Mesoraco seems to hold an advantage right now both offensively and defensively on Grandal. At the plate it seems that Mesoraco grades out right now where I could see Grandal getting to in the future if he continues to progress with his tools though Grandal could have an advantage in plate discipline. Behind the plate Mesoraco’s arm strength and athleticism give him a slight advantage over Grandal who may be a slightly better receiver but lacks the tools to be an elite defensive catcher.  In the end, I would rate Mesoraco out as a clearly better prospect, but that isn’t a slight on Grandal, as Mesoraco is just more advanced at this point while having a slight edge in tools nearly across the board. The Reds look to be in good shape in the future with both of these guys in their system.

Poll
Which Reds catcher do you favor?
Devin Mesoraco
571 votes
Yasmani Grandal
306 votes

877 votes | Poll has closed

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nice work Doug.
When do you see Mesoraco in Cincy? 2012?

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jan 12, 2011 7:08 AM EST reply actions  

Tough one

I think he probably gets some time in 2011, though it might not be until September if guys can handle staying healthy.

by dougdirt on Jan 12, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think

there is any reason to believe Sale can’t be a starter. Filthy stuff and excellent starter in college. I like him better than Grandal.

by Pelferized on Jan 12, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Arm action

Has scouts split on whether he can start long term or not. Throwing 125 innings a season in college is a lot different than throwing 185 a season in the Majors.

by dougdirt on Jan 12, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta disagree that Sale...

can only be considered a reliever at this point. Also, never disregard the worth of a talented lefty.

by Havok1517 on Jan 13, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

that BA rated Grandal the best defensive catcher in the organization, not Mesoraco.

I haven’t seen Grandal either, but I expect he’ll reach AA at some point this year. Mesoraco, at least at Carolina, still looked as though he had quite a bit of work to do defensively, although some of that has to do with the pitchers he was asked to catch there (the Reds have a lot of wild things at the lower levels of their organization). Mesoraco’s throwing wasn’t consistent, the 40% CS rate notwithstanding; he sailed more than his share of throws to second.

Mike Emeigh http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/minor_key/

by MikeE on Jan 12, 2011 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

how much of Mesoraco's rise has to do with conditioning?

I’m aware of your thoughts on the matter Doug, but it seems like virtually everybody else thought the kid was out of shape for his first two seasons and that this year he showed up in much better condition. You didn’t talk about this at all in your post, though, so I’m wondering: shouldn’t we be at least a little watchful to make sure he keeps it together?

by mrkupe on Jan 12, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Curious about this as well. I’ve seen the health issues more explicitly linked with conditioning than you suggest here.

by FI2 on Jan 12, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I still maintain

That the “Mesoraco is out of shape” stuff that came out a few years ago was incredibly overblown. You can go back and look at pictures of him and he didn’t seem anywhere close to pudgy or out of shape.

I think his better shape had some to do with it, but his reworked swing likely had more to do with it. That and finally being healthy for a full season.

by dougdirt on Jan 12, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course

but much of the out of shape talk was based on allegations of softness and, yes, pudginess.

by blackoutyears on Jan 16, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Grandal

“His hit tool is a little more questionable than his power though as he doesn’t have the bat speed and his swing can get a little long at times.”

You probably could have worded that better. If his swing is long and he has power then his bat speed is not slow. A long swing with power = bat speed. What he is lacking is bat quickness. I understand most writeups on Grandal also repeat this lack of bat speed, but it’s just not correct.

He doesn’t have the most explosive bat but he does have bat speed. Also, it didn’t seem too long or too much uppercut to me. And his contact numbers are outstanding. Maybe he gets into patterns where his swing gets long at times?

He probably isn’t a switch hitter either.

by pedrophile on Jan 12, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

very raw from the other side

reports have him far behind as a RHH and if he doesn’t improve soon he should give up switch hitting. I have read far too “armsy” and poor hip rotation from that side.

by pedrophile on Jan 12, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

it didn’t seem too long or too much uppercut to me

From what I saw in the post-season this year I agree. He didn’t always keep his hands inside the ball, but in those viewings I thought he was pretty short to the ball. Very SSS though.

by blackoutyears on Jan 12, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about talent but...

That boy has a purdy mouth.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jan 12, 2011 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

Ha!

That photo of Mesoraco always creeps me out,,,

by blackoutyears on Jan 12, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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