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Prospect Report Redux: Brett Gardner

Prospect Retro Redux: Brett Gardner

Yankees outfielder Brett Gardner is hitting .286/.387/.383 this year in 464 plate appearances, with 61 walks, 80 strikeouts, and 37 steals in 44 attempts. He's shown improved patience compared to last year (last year he had 26 walks in 284 plate appearances), and his overall production of 113 OPS+ is much better than last season's 93 mark or the 53 he put up in 2008. His defense in left field is excellent. WAR rates him highly at 4.1 this year, up from 2.2 in 2009.

What was he like as a prospect?

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I did a Rookie Profile of Gardner about two years ago, in September of 2008.

 

Brett Gardner was drafted by the Yankees in the third round in 2005, from the College of Charleston. Speed was his calling card, speed and the ability to draw walks, but his power was questionable. He hit .284/.377/.376 with 19 steals for Staten Island in the New York-Penn League after signing. I gave him a Grade C+ in the 2006 book, noting that I thought he was a slight overdraft, but that I thought he could be a useful player if he showed enough pop to survive at higher levels.

Gardner hit .323/.433/.418 with 30 steals in 63 games for Class A Tampa in 2006, then .272/.352/.318 with 28 steals in 55 games for Double-A Trenton. I kept him as a Grade C+ in the 2007 book, noting his speed, willingness to take walks, and defensive ability, but remaining doubtful that he would show enough pop to start. I wrote that he had "an outside chance to become Juan Pierre, but I think Jason Tyner-with-more-walks is more likely."

Returning to Trenton to begin 2007, Gardner hit .300/.392/.419 in 54 games with 18 steals, then hit .260/.343/.331 in 45 games for Triple-A Scranton with 21 steals. My analysis didn't change: I kept him at Grade C+ in the 2008 book, again noting his ability to get on base and swipe bags, but again noting the lack of power and projecting him as a fourth outfielder.

Gardner hit .296/.414/.422 this year for Scranton, with 37 steals in 94 games. In his major league action, he's hit .202/.263/.279 in 104 at-bats. Obviously that kind of performance is unacceptable. He's stolen 11 bases in 12 attempts, which is excellent, but otherwise he's been quite weak offensively. His plate discipline, which was terrific in the minors, has not translated well to the majors, with just eight walks and 26 strikeouts in 104 at-bats. And the lack of power is obvious for all to see.

What does the future hold? Despite the early problems, I still think he's got a future as a fourth outfielder. Gardner's track record is to thrive at one level, then struggle a bit in his first shot at the next level before adjusting and doing better in the second try. The lack of power is always going to be an issue, but he should get at least some of the plate discipline back. Not all of it: he doesn't have enough pop to scare pitchers into giving him excessive walks, but I expect much of the patience will return in time. His MLEs show him as a .250-.280 hitter with a .340-.370 OBP. The bottom range of that is unacceptable for a regular, but the upper range would be OK given his speed and glovework.

I think the original assessment of Gardner as Jason Tyner with more walks is still a good one. Whether that's enough to be a regular depends on the style of team I suppose. Gardner's glovework in center field is well-regarded; his arm is weak but he has excellent range. If you're getting enough power at other positions, Gardner in center field is plausable, but personally I still think he's best off as a fourth outfielder. HIs offense will be marginal for a regular, although if he hits at the top end you can make a case.

 

This year at least, Gardner has performed at the upper range of my projections for his career, with a batting average pressing .290 now. He got the patience back, as I expected, but overall he's developing towards the maximal range of his potential outcomes.

Is he "Jason Tyner with more walks?" Tyner hit .275/.314/.323 in his career. Gardner is at .271/.357/.368 so far. He's shown a bit more pop than Tyner, and yeah, a lot more walks, plus he's a better defender than Tyner was. Overall, Gardner has turned out a bit better than I anticipated two years ago, at least this year.

Yankees fans: would you be satisfied with Gardner as your regular left fielder for the next few  years?

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Replacing him now would probably be too much cost for too little improvement, since there’s no good corner OF prospect in the pipeline. The mix of skills that makes him worth starting is fragile, but he is an asset right now and probably for 2011 and 2012, too. I wouldn’t extend him except as a fourth outfielder.

by whichthat on Sep 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Gardner fascinates me

since he doesn’t just draw walks, he has by far the lowest swing percentage in baseball.

see also a nifty comp chart from this fine piece on swing zones:

that isn’t just getting your patience back, it’s an impressive unwillingness to swing at anything that is not right down the middle.

by wcw on Sep 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Inflated

IMO his numbers are inflated a little by a ridiculously hot start to the year that he can’t keep pace with. I think the real Gardner is what we’ve seen for the last 2 months. Good but not great player. I stole him in an expansion draft-17th overall pick in a 10 team dynasty league that had 28 man rosters and 2 weeks ago flipped him for Carlos Marmol. Couldn’t be happier

by mattp31 on Sep 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Yankees fans: would you be satisfied with Gardner as your regular left fielder for the next few years?"

Or rephrased: “Yankee fans: Would you be satisfied with a top-level defensive left fielder that steals 40-50 bases a season while putting up one of the best OBP’s in the AL and can be paid somewhere near the league minimum in 2011 before hitting arbitration in 2012?”

If a Yankee fan isn’t satisfied with Gardner as their left fielder, somebody probably oughta smack him.

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by Satchel Price on Sep 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

+0.5

I really doubt that the Yankees care about paying someone near the league minimum. The good thing about being a Yankee fan is that you can usually afford the best, regardless of cost. Management cares about league minimum salaries; the average fan does not.

by King Billy Royal on Sep 1, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's having guys like Gardner making league minimum that allow teams such as the Yankees to "afford the best", though.

If they had to pay market price for the homegrown guys on their team, they would not have been able to sign Sabathia, Teixeira, or Burnett. In a way, it only reinforces that average fans should care as much about league minimum salaries as management does, if not more.

by RedSoxFaithful on Sep 1, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

People should smack Yankee fans for any reason they choose.

by King Billy Royal on Sep 1, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

:D

R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9

by doublestix on Sep 1, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I think a lot of teams would love to have him as their everday leadoff hitter. I know the White Sox were sniffing around him this offseason. I wish they would have pulled the trigger on that one.

by polodude017 on Sep 1, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes ...assuming

that he can sustain this sort of production going foward.

by RollingWave on Sep 3, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't be happier

He’s been everything they could have possibly expected and more, especially OBP-wise. Obviously, he profiles better offensively as a CF, but I will certainly live with him as a LF in the short term.

by jc3 on Sep 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely

I think they should move Granderson to left, and Gardner to center. I always thought of Gardner’s potential to be similar to Brett Butler – I vaguely remember discussion on this site about this. Some thought it was crazy, some didn’t. What does everyone think now?

by cookiedabookie on Sep 1, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely.

i believe we’re seeing the true Gardner this year. his MO has been that it takes him a good half year to a year and a half to ‘adjust’ to each new level. he’s playing excellent D, stealing bases, drawing walks, and in fact, leads MLB in P/PA.

by Travis G on Sep 2, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Crawford?

Happy, sure. But don’t the Yankee fans think they’ll be signing Crawford anyway?

by Lollardfish on Sep 3, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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