August 7th Minor League thread
by casejud on Aug 7, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
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Happy August 7th! I'm gonna get this thing started early - like my day. Happy birthday to Edgar Renteria, easily the greatest postion player ever born on August 7th. Here's some guys who will be dealin' or, not-so-dealin' today in the Bushes.
AAA- Carlos Carrasco, Brandon Beachy vs Vance Worley, Zach Britton takes on Louisville wrecking crew, Charlie Fur-Bush, Darek Holland, and Mike Moustakas and the rest of the Omaha Royals get to face Radhames Liz.
AA Ball - Bryan Morris, Kyle Drabek!, Brayan Villareal (19.2 IP, 1.83 ERA, 18Ks/6BB at AA), Danny Duffy takes his second turn for NW Arkaansas, and big Simon Castro takes the hill.
A+, A, and short-season A - Garrett Richards makes second start for Rancho Cucamonga, Matt Moore, Tyler Matzek, Trevor May, and the matchup of the day . . . Jenry Mejia v Delin Betances, thats two electric arms goin' in the FSL!
Have fun kids!
-Case
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Wonder why?
No team claimed Villarreal in the rule5? He has been real good all year, though I am not entirely familiar with what he works with…
i think he's quite underrated
iirc, fb can get up to the mid-90’s fairly consistently, along with a fairly solid slider, and a decent change.
J.P. Arencibia
Homerun in his first at-bat for Jays prospect J.P. Arencibia.
man
Shields is definitely taking one for the team today.
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touch'em all JP
your OPS will never be higher
by TimLaser and MattyC on Aug 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
JPA haters will not be out today, I guess
by PrincetonCubs on Aug 7, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
its one game
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But but
Can’t I make sweeping judgments about his potential and throw out everything I thought about him because of it?
you can, but I wouldn't advise it ;)
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indeed
but today probably isn’t the day to say he’s garbage, that’s all..
by PrincetonCubs on Aug 7, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you see the list of players with 2 HR's in their first MLB game?
Not exactly what you would call “star quality”.
Unreal debut! Oppo shot too
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 7, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf
who the hell is the Blue Jays hitting coach? guy deserves a raise
by another know it all on Aug 7, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well they basically have 2. Cito Gaston is the manager but he is notoriously known as a hitting coach and I forget the other guys name.
Yep
Cito is an amazing hitting coach.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 7, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bautista though credits his improvements this year to Murphy
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
Murphy is a good coach too
I never said he wasn’t.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 7, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasnt implying that
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
Plus
In between innings he simultaneously cured childhood diabetes while rescuing an elderly woman from a burning building…quite the day…
also
he took a piss on a framed Tim Tebow autographed photo.
by Rupert Pupkin on Aug 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard JP is who Tebow is actually referring to when he talks about "God"
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
I believe the beating of chests of the Arrencibia lobby on this site started an earthquake....
….for today, youth is served!!!!
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
"the first player in the modern era with two HR and 4 hits in his major league debut"
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Good God
A minor league thread mentioning a major leaguer is customary, especially for a call-up. But, I’ve never seen anything quite like this. Is Arencibia the only player playing today?
He is, without a doubt, the best player in the SSS league. Maybe a SSS HOF! I’m going to start a SSS roto league and draft him number one!
Yeah, wasn’t a ton to talk about in the prospecting world and it was a pretty impressive debut. Not sure why anyone would come on here to post we shouldn’t be discussing it.
not really worthy of it's own thread so I'll post it here
Frankie Piliere scouted Andrew Brackman last night, the report is here. It’s pretty hard to fathom the turnaround Brackman has had when looking back to his performance 1 year ago.
wow
Pretty glowing report considering statistically it was a bad outing. I guess thats what scouting is all about and Frankie P knows his shit, lol.
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Brackman
has a tendency to have one bad inning that makes an otherwise good outing look mediocre. Usually it’s in the 5th or 6th inning, so perhaps fatigue/conditioning is a factor.
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Why?
Tillman, Arrieta, and Matusz all got their shot. Why not Britton?
cuz none were ready and BALT should realize that playing them now isn't really helping all too much
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
well
19/11 k/bb, which isn’t very good. GB rate has gone down (though it’s still good) at the AAA level. i don’t think it’s too much to ask for him to string some good starts together before he’s called up.
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Still doesn't answer why he didn't pitch...
….And it’s not exactly like Baltimore is playing for anything…why not check out some of you new talent?
I guess it was just a spot start for Vandenhurk..
pitches today
Did anyone see what Arencibia did today!?!
=)
by asyouwish33 on Aug 7, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Freeman
3-3 with a couple doubles so far. I have to think with the non-production the Braves have been getting from 1B, he’s making them think about calling him up.
Really, there's nothing to lose by throwing him up against the wall and seeing if he sticks.
They may be tied with the Phillies soon and they may need a call-up to give them some juice.
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The guy has been red hot lately. I’m really excited for his future, but I hope the Braves leave him in AAA the rest of the year. He’s too young IMO, and he seems to take awhile to adjust to new levels. No sense in hurting his confidence.
by Arlo Brunsberg's Swing on Aug 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Nothing to lose? Other than even 1 game in the standings, which may be the difference in making the playoffs or not- no nothing
Excuse the sarcasm but, that made me laugh.
I like Freeman’s future but, not so sure he’d be an improvement down the stretch over Glaus and Hinkse. I’ll tell you what though, Bobby Cox is one of the few who would try it if he thought Freeman was the better player right now. He has a pretty long record of it.
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Kyle Drabek
6 IP, 2H, 0ER, 1BB, 7K
Another very nice start.
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8-3 GO-FO
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 7, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
When He's On, Is Matt Moore The Best Pitcher In The Minors
Tonight: 6IP 4H 0R 2BB 13K
His first 9 outs were 8Ks and a caught stealing…
Well, I'm sold.
He’s got to be mentioned among the elite at this point, right?
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As long as those BBs are under control
That was the main concern going into the year. Noone ever really doubted his stuff.
Just like last year he has improved on them as Spring turned into Summer
I think Tampa Bay’s slow promotion style really works for a pitcher like Moore.
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Red Sox Reportedly sign Kendrick Perkins
I don’t have the dollar amount right now but he was widely considered to be a guy who was going to be overslot. As the deadline looms maybe this signing with open the floodgates and we will see more signings coming in over the next couple of days.
Brandon Jacobs of Lowell > Brandon Jacobs of NYG
Do the Celtics know about this?
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
first Brandon Jacobs and now this
who’s next, Ryan Miller?
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Ackley
Hits his first homer in AAA
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
2 in 77 AB
not stellar, but he’s rocking a .156 IsoP right now, which would pretty much make him a star if he carried it to the majors. Of course, it’s 77 AB.
Teheran
in the midst of another fantastic start. line so far:
5 IP, 2 hits, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K.
final line
6 IP, 3 hits, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K. it sure hasn’t taken him long to adjust to AA.
by blindsided789 on Aug 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
no at all
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Aug 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
You gotta love this as a Royals fan right? This guy has absolutely nothing but results. Tons of naysayers saying that he isn’t TOR material…Even if he isn’t, he’ll perform as well as a Jame Shields-type SP. Funny enough,Greinke- Montgomery-Lamb-Duffy-Dwyer could be really scary if it ever happens.
I think last start doublestix was saying his velocity is significantly up, too.
May have been here… may have been on twitter… can’t remember. I havent been on the gamethreads much here recently. I love how busy they are… but sometimes I try to avoid them because I know I’m looking at like… a half hour of reading and responding if I open it.
Also, its sooooo easy to fall into that trap where you think all prospects who are performing well are better than all prospects who aren’t executing/performing well. Your instincts tell you strongly to take the guy with the better line, even though you know that what they’re doing now isn’t necessarily all that important.
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Was at that game
TJ McFarland and Deolis Guerra were both utterly unwatchable. In McFarland’s case, it’s a brutal AA debut in which he had no stuff, no command, and demonstrated little sense that he knew what was going on on the mound. He should get extra credit for managing to give up that many runs to a Rock Cats lineup featuring three guys with a sub-500 OPS.
Guerra… just wow! He’s taken so many steps backward in the last year it’s unbelievable. First inning, he looked unhittable. Then he came back out for the second and from his first warm-up pitch, it was just obviously gone.
by realitypolice on Aug 7, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Curious
I am also curious to hear realitypolice’s opinion here. I live 20 minutes from the stadium so my kids and I catch probally 10-15 games a year. Chis is my favorite player and I watch him quite a bit. Just would be nice to get another scouting prospective from someone that has actually seen him in person.
Not exactly a scouting trip this time...
I was with my 4-year-old daughter and about 200 coworkers, so it wasn’t the best chance to really watch mechanics. Kipnis does still have the nice, short path to the ball he had at ASU and Chisenhall took a good swing the first time up, but that’s the best I can give you from last night!
by realitypolice on Aug 8, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I ask again...
Gomez/Humber/Guerra/Mulvey.
Where is the accountability for Bill Smith? Wasn’t this by his own admission the trade that would make or break his career? Not to mention he’s compiled a $110mm flawed team that may miss the playoffs. & Garza and Bartlett for Delmon and Brendan Harris no longer looks terrible, but I’m still scoring that a win for Tampa.
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3-5 Final line
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I really have no clue what to make of this kid.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 7, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
19 Year old with 3 super tools
1 pretty good one and 1 below average, and he just needs time to put everything together
Wow!!!
Pedro just hit a three run bomb to win the game.
From Ft. Wayne
Matt Lollis, who’s still just 19, 6.1IP, 2H 3BB 5K; he’s now got a 2.48 ERA across two levels.
Also in the game, Jason Hagerty goes 2-2 with a homer and 3BB. Since the All-Star break he’s sporting a .406/.517/.717 line. Not a lot of 1.234 OPS marks over a 200PA stretch floating around out there.
Allen Webster
6 IP 5 H 1 R 1 BB 4 Ks 1 HR allowed
5 HR allowed on the year in 104 innings
Kila: The most hyped slightly below average DH/1B of all time.
Yes, he should have been playing all this time. No, he’s not anything special in the slightest. He’s a marginally useful player.
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agreed
I’m not sure how he got so hyped. I mean, mildly-decently intriguing, but the way some folks talk about him, you’d think he was an elite talent that was being held back. I think he can be a decent starter, but the rhetoric was ridiculous. Certainly, part of it was the fact that the Royals really didn’t have better players, so not playing him was debatable, but still.
not playing him was debatable?
Where? in Dayton Moore land?
While a hitless game or two is a bit early to be writing his obit, I don’t recall reading anyone call him an “elite talent” — do you have a quote to back that up, or just talking out of your hat?
But keeping him in AAA while high-priced/low production free agents like Jacobs and Guillen took up ABs to no good end may be a debatable point to you, but I’d say for most it was a short and easy debate. That doesn’t mean people were saying he’d be “elite” or, really, even above average. I don’t understand why people need to caricature opposing arguments. You want to argue that Jacobs and Guillen were/are better than Kila, be my guest. But don’t tell me anyone called him elite.
But where has he been hyped?
I never saw him making top 50 lists either preseason or midseason. Sure there has been some talk around here, but none of the mainstream guys have hyped him.
To me, he is a low-Avg, high-OBP, above-avg power guy. That has value in the bigs, but I don’t see him winning any MVP awards or making many AS games. I think that is pretty much the consensus around here too.
half?
that was pretty much the whole thing. no one expects Kila to be a stud.
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no, there is a faction that thinks Kila is a suppressed superstar
It’s not necessarily a large or rational group, but I’ve seen enough bluster about his situation to know that there are people very convinced he will be an elite player.
More Dudes
Yonder Alonso went 2-4, now hitting .294 / .349 / .460 doesn’t sound great but since July 1st it’s 46H 12 AB for a .383 / .456 / .658
Charlie Furbush got his stuff together tonight 6IP – 5h – 2R – 2ER – 1BB – 5K’s vs a pretty decent Charlotte lineup. I like this kid.
6 shutout innings for Derek Holland in AAA tonight. Kind of a big start for a kid who missed 2 1/2 monthes with injuries and strugged his last start- now 6-2 1.49 down there and could be called up soon.
Big, Simon Castro 6IP – 5Hits – O Runs – 0 Bbs- 7 K’s . Some things were working tonight in San Antone. James darnell hit two longballs as well. He’s a player I still believe in. I think injuries derailed him early but, he can play.
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Rangers
Derek Holland: 6.0IP 4H 0R 2BB 3K GO/FO: 8-7
Tanner Scheppers: 1IP 1H 1ER 0BB 2K
Pedro Strop: 1IP 0H 0R 0BB 2K
Max Ramirez: 2-3 BB
Miguel De Los Santos: 5.0IP 3H 2R 2ER 2BB 10K 0HR
Matt Thompson: 3.0IP 3H 2R 2ER 1BB 5K 1HR
Jurickson Profar: 1-4 HR
Mike Olt: 0-2 2BB 2R
Jake Skole: 0-4
Kellin Deglan: 0-4 2K
Carlos Melo: 5.0IP 4H 1R 1ER 0BB 8K 0HR
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
De Los Santos
38% K rate this year, 65K in his last 39.1IP.
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Anyone bothered by...
Holland’s lack of K’s? It is a little surprising to me. Maybe just getting back into shape?
"God, I'm from Cleveland. When is it going to be our time?"
it's just splitting hairs at this point.
They’ll be back.
Got it
That makes sense. I just haven’t heard anything on his “stuff” since he has gotten back, but he certainly seems to be able to outmatch AAA competition. I have to assume he is part of next year’s TX rotation. Is he a bullpen guy later this year?
"God, I'm from Cleveland. When is it going to be our time?"
Might be, in the playoffs
I suspect he gets called up within a couple of weeks if Harden keeps sucking. He should get a few starts in the last month of the season and then maybe be a bullpen option in the playoffs. The playoff rotation looks like Lee-Lewis-Wilson-Hunter at the moment.
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It sounds like he isn't throwing his slider much yet.
He’s mostly throwing his 4 seam FB, 2 seam FB, and a CU. He only threw a couple slider’s last night.
Jesus Montero
1/3 with a HR and a walk
-1 and only member of the Nick Weglarz fan club!
Wil Myers
1/3 with a K and a SB
-1 and only member of the Nick Weglarz fan club!
Desmond Jennings
0/5
Anyone else kind of down on him? It’s been a pretty disappointing year. He’s not really forcing the Ray’s hand at this point. The only thing he’s doing as well as last year is working those stolen bases. Average down, walk rate down, power down, K’s up. Not encouraging :(
-1 and only member of the Nick Weglarz fan club!
I'm cutting him some slack for now
He has had wrist and shoulder injuries this year.
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This
While the performance is disappointing and his stock may be a bit down, the fact that he is back on the field playing is the most important thing with a relatively polished guy with his kind of tools.
Stellar night for Simon Castro
6 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K
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Andrew Lambo
3-4, 2 BBs, HR…..
Thanks, Ned.
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Aug 8, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions
Jenrry
4.1 IP 2 HA 0R/ER 2BB 4K’s, 8.00 GO/AO
…at three different stops thru the minors he has 19K’s in 14 IP with a 11.0 GO/AO.
How terribly short sighted of the Mets brass [Omar] to allow him to begin in the pen this year, at least they finally got it right and he continue his development properly.
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