MilB 8/23
by Pup Dog on Aug 23, 2010 5:51 PM EDT
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Some guys going today
AAA- Aneury Rodriguez, Charles Furbush, David Huff, Derek Holland, John Ely, Ryan Rowland-Smith
AA- Kyle Drabek vs Manny Banuelos (AA debut I believe), Trey McNutt (AA debut), Danny Duffy
A- Austin Adams, Aaron Crow, Chad Jenkins, Kyle Lobstein, Zack Von Rosenberg
Sure there are plenty of others. Just did a quick run through just to get this thread up for today.
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Aaron Crow going against his almost organization the P-Nats.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
not pitching for some reason
scheduled for a few days from now. weird.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
He pled “oblique strain”. I say having rough season and doesn’t want the press if he gets shelled. But I’m biased. ;-)
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
by souldrummer on Aug 24, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
McNutt
I’ll be very fascinated with Kenny’s small sample at AA to end the year. Is the command legit? Is his stuff going to stay that good? I don’t expect much improvement on the changeup, but can his fb/cu keep AA batters off balance.
He’s really had a superb year, though.
Ivan Nova
I know he’s in the first inning of his first start (so he’s pumped up), but he is hitting 97 and 98. Got out of a bases-loaded nobody-on jam with the help of Gardner in his first inning.
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
magician
the guy is obviously a magician if he can load the bases and yet have nobody on
by JJACK on Aug 23, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
hardy-har-har
*nobody out
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Aug 23, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
been a long day
and I actually laughed my ass off at that comment.
by richieabernathy on Aug 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
hallofamer
is probably as pumped about nova’s start as nova is.
by auclairkeithbc on Aug 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well we all know about these Twins OFers by now
Aaron Hicks
Oswaldo Arcia
Eddie Rosario
Angel Morales
Nathan Roberts
Joe Benson
Max Kepler
but there is officially now another name to watch (IMO) -Daniel Ortiz the Appy Leaguer is 2-2 with 2 hrs so far today….
the former 4th round pick from 2008 draft was hurt in all of 2009 so he is an interesting sleeper to flag.
I called on the exact pitch - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!
Why Oh Why did the D'Backs select A.J. Pollock over Mike Trout?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
I forgot Ben Revere
I called on the exact pitch - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!
Why Oh Why did the D'Backs select A.J. Pollock over Mike Trout?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
with a .246/.287/.463 and a 5.4% walk rate
I dont think he’s in the same conversation as the other Twins OF prospects just yet.
by Looney4baseball on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm, yeah you're right
i didn’t realize he walked that few and far inbetween
however, another good/great athlete and power to go with some speed, is already 20 though
maybe consider him a deeeepp sleeper maybe a breakout guy for next year
I called on the exact pitch - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!
Why Oh Why did the D'Backs select A.J. Pollock over Mike Trout?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 24, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Drabek vs. Banuelos
Drabek: 6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 9 K
Banuelos: 5.2 IP, 7 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 6 K
Eric Thames with his 25th HR
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 23, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Rangers pitcher to keep an eye on...Miguel De Los Santos
Tonight
6 IP | 3 H | 1 R | 1 ER | 1 BB | 10 SO
Season
Spokane SS ball
32 IP | 13 H | 8 R | 6 ER | 20 BB | 50 SO
Hickory A ball
29.1 IP | 19 H | 16 R | 12 ER | 13 BB | 52 SO
Total
61.1 IP | 35 H | 25 R | 19 ER | 33 BB | 102 SO
He is a little old as he just turned 22 in July. He was stuck in the DSL last year with a Visa issue where is struck out 70 in 32 IP. Jason Cole of Lonestardugout.com says he has 3 ML pitches, he is just working on developing command.
Matt Lollis
He carried a shutout into the eighth tonight before giving up a few hits and a run to get chased. That takes his MWL ERA to 1.80 in the seven starts (45 innings) since his promotion from Eugene. He’s got a 39/7 K/BB ratio in that time and is throwing 93-95.
Austin Wates
3-4, 2B, RBI
raises his BA in his brief time with the ValleyCats to .625
In all of nine at bats, haha.
I liked him before the draft though. Good to see him starting off on a strong foot.
Jose Bautista
2 homeruns tonight versus the Yankees to give him 40 on the season. He’s driven in all 3 runs tonight for the Jays on homers and Jays lead 3-2.
Brady had a little extra help
90210 loved the PEDs.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Baseless?
Go do some reading on Brady Anderson and let me know again if it is baseless. Even Jim Palmer thought he was doing them.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh, thanks, I've done my reading.
Maybe you should. Let’s see what Palmer said:
Asked Monday by The Sun to explain himself, Palmer said, "I don’t know if Brady took steroids. How would I know? But he did go from 16 home runs to 50.
“When Bonds goes from 49 to 73, you just wonder,” Palmer told the newspaper. “You’re trying to have a level playing field and maintain the integrity of the game. I’m sure it was a great year for Brady, and it was a great year when Bonds broke McGwire’s record, but you just wonder.”
“I’m just saying it’s a concern when you have aberrations in people’s performances,” Palmer said. “I know how hard Brady worked to be a good player. But who knows? You just don’t know, and that’s the fault of baseball, not Brady.”
So let’s see here:
A) He doesn’t actually accuse him, and just admits it’s suspicious that he hit a lot of homers.
B) His only evidence, and your only evidence, is that he hit a lot of home runs one year.
Countless other teammates have defended him, and no one with any evidence has accused him. Hell, I can’t find any journalist or baseball person who has actually accused him.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 24, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Canseco
Didn’t he name Anderson in one of his books?
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Who didn't Canseco name?
And why would Canseco have any knowledge of what Anderson was doing? What, do you think they all go to super-secret steroid parties and take turns shooting each other up? Or maybe he just read about Brady in the monthly newsletter.
Who was Canseco wrong about?
If you don’t think opposing players discussed steroids, than you are just sticking your head in the sand.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't put too much credence in Canseco
He called the obvious ones, with the one exception of A-Rod.
It’s obviously impossible to know if he got anyone wrong.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 26, 2010 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions
He nailed A-Rod
Canseco did name A-Roid. Also you are correct when you state “He called the obvious ones.” Anderson is very obvious.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 26, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yay
Blind homerism. Look at a list of 50 HR hitters and ask yourself is Jose Bautista one of the most powerful hitters of all time?
"This has got to hurt"
by Da.aron on Aug 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
its not too hard, especially if you have extra help
in getting those balls that are in the air over the fence. He’ll likely hit 45-50 homeruns this year and then have trouble breaking 30 ever again. He’ll have a career where you look at his stats and say “one of these years is not like the other”, a la Brady Anderson and Barry Bonds. Neither of those have to worry about performance enhancing rumors.
by Looney4baseball on Aug 24, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, a la Barry Bonds
ok, sorry, I picked up too late on the troll. His ISO and HR/FB rates aren’t so absurd. He may not hit 45-50, but he’ll hit 30 again I’d be willing to bet.
clearly its difficult, but a 21.5% HR/FB rate isn't the most ridiculous thing in the world
hitting 54% FB helps a ton
No
but you’re the guy who equates scuffing baseballs with taking a cocktail of chemicals to grossly alter physique. If Frankie thinks that East German swimmers won because they trained hard, I honestly don’t want to waste my time.
Ok, so you didn't read the article but decided it's worthless
Good to know you have an open mind. People do love simple answers to difficult questions.
Freude schöner Götterfunken, Tochter aus Elysium, Freude!
Homerism?
Because I’m totally a Orioles fan? I just like facts, thanks.
I suppose Greg Vaughn and Luis Gonzalez were two of the most powerful hitters of all-time as well, huh? But then, they were in the steroid era. I suppose George Foster was one of the most powerful hitters of all-time, huh?
And has Jose Bautista hit 50 homers? Did I miss the last 10? If you look at the 40 home run club (which is where you should look, because 50 is FAR from a guarantee), you’ll see plenty of guys who weren’t great power hitters who had career years. Ones who didn’t play in the steroid era. A sampling: Jim Gentile, Al Rosen, Davey Johnson, Tony Armas, Gus Zernial.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 24, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Vaughn and Foster were very powerful hitters
Foster was an absolute beast in regards to power. In his prime, which I am assuming you never saw, he put on power displays. Hitting 50 HR in his era was truly remarkable.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Both were very powerful hitters
Most powerful hitters of all-time? I don’t think so.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 24, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Foster had that kind of natural power but obviously Daaron is overstating his point.
by King Billy Royal on Aug 24, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
George Foster
One of the most powerful
hitters of his era. He was the most feared hitter on the BRM once he got there. They moved Rose to 3B, IIRC, to get his bat in the line up. If you are a believer that Brady Anderson, one of the poster boys of what steroids can accomplish, hit his homers clean, there’s no way you’ll believe anybody else o’s doing it dirty.
"This has got to hurt"
by Da.aron on Aug 25, 2010 1:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Davey Johnson hit 43 home runs in 1973
Never hit more than 18 any other time in his career. Steroids?
Roger Maris never hit more than 39 home runs in a year, yet hit 61 home runs one season. That’s a gap of 22 home runs, almost as much as Anderson’s 26. Steroids?
Did Brady Anderson do steroids? I would not be surprised in the slightest if he did. But guess what? Flukes do happen.
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 25, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
you can bet that Davey Johnson was on something,
going from 4 homers to 43 to 14 the next season. This was the same season and same team that had Darrell Evans hit 40 home runs that season as well, going from 19 to 40 to 25 homers. Both were likely on the same thing.
Maris hit 39, 61 and 33 homers so it;s not like he didnt have power before and after the 61 homers. Maris was also repeatedly injured, did not play a full season his last 4 years and was out of the game by age 33.
Finally, any guess on Brady Anderson’s manager the year he hit 50 homers? Davey Johnson…coincidence.
by Looney4baseball on Aug 25, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonds jumped from 49 to 73
He had a lot of power before 73 too, but everyone attributes that huge jump to steroids. Yet Maris goes from 39 to 61 and nothing?
And Darrell Evans jump of 21 is evidence of steroid use (not to mention he hit 25 the next year)?
And if Johnson and Evans, in the 70’s when these substances weren’t even remotely on the radar, took substances and hit a bunch of homers one year, WHY STOP? Hell, Anderson was going into a contract year in 1997, why would he stop? He was morally willing to stoop to steroid use, but stopped right before he could get his big payday?
OR could they possibly just be fluke years, which have happened plenty of times throughout the course of baseball history?
by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 26, 2010 6:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
Also, Bonds never hit 50+ again, and it’s assumed that he was using until 2003 or so, right? So that isn’t explained by steroids either.
You are correct,
but he walked a ton in 2001 as well. His home run rate wasn’t all that close afterward.
MRI on Strasburg
Rizzo “MRI showed some things on there that led us to schedule another one”.
Science is not my background, so does anyone know what a second MRI’s possibly going to show different?
They're going to inject dye into it first
I believe it gives the picture more contrast allowing them to see more. Might be a little worried that there is some sort of tear (obviously not complete or anything, that’d probably be more obvious) and they want to know for sure before they make a decision on what he’ll do the rest of the season.
Or to be more depressing
It could be before they make a decision on whether or not he needs surgery.
ya but is it of the elbow or the forearm?
or both?
If it’s the elbow… gulp. If it’s just to see how serious the sprain is, that’s not likely resulting in surgery, at least that would be my understanding.
by BryceHarper on Aug 23, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its both
The flexor tendon connects to elbow.
Re:
I can’t imagine for a second that they wouldn’t have come out after the first one and said “the MRI showed a minor strain but we are going to follow up with second” if that were the case. Teams love to announce good health news.
The fact that we got no information makes me think something is pretty wrong.
Poor Strasburg...
I’ve heard the dye-injection MRI is painful as shit. My fiance had to go through that when she had labrum surgery. Unless they’re using a different dye than she had, the dye is metallic, which means it tries to jump out of your skin every time the machine pulses. She said the MRI is the most pain she’s ever been in, and she tore her ACL, MCL, and meniscus in one injury on a soccer field.
Poor Strasburg
That’s a word pairing I’m not sure I’ve ever heard before.
No matter how rich you are...
you feel pain like everyone else.
but he probably won't feel poor
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
Had this on my knee
I didn’t have the issue with the metallic dye “jumping,” but it was just needle after needle after needle and got painful after a while
http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com/
by hallofamer2000 on Aug 24, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh..........
And it’s sad to say we won’t see him in ATL this year.
Rich Harden
not a minor – but found this curious
Harden took a no-no 6 1/3 tonight
During the game, the Burt Blyleven said he had 6 pitches
Dan Plesac on MLB network said he’s a 2 pitch pitcher!?!
I love the level of access MLB Network is providing, but between Harold Reynolds saying Alvarez was a 10-15 homer guy, Mitch Williams being Mitch Williams, and now this… they are losing a lot of credibility…
An equal amount of ridiculous comments are made on pretty much every TV network
MLB Network does a pretty good job I think, stuff like that will always be said by guys who don’t know much a certain player. I wouldn’t say they’re losing credibility because of it.
fair enough
‘losing credibility’ was probably too harsh – I agree with you that they do a good job, and I’m sure it has to be tuff to field questions on every player in the bigs at any given moment;
I guess these things just make me appreciate the level of knowledge that is accumulated on a site like this that much more
Sac is Right
Plesac did pre and post for the Cubs while Rich Harden was there. Fangraphs has Rich Harden at around 65% fastball and 35% Change.
fwiw
well – for what it’s worth – MLB interviewed Harden after the game and he referenced ‘mixing in a slider and a split’
Harden
When he was with the A’s he featured the splitter as his second pitch. It was a nasty 90 mph splitter. He followed that up with his slider and had a change and a show me curve. If you factor in sinking and cutting a fastball it looks like six pitches to me. It’s too bad injuries have knocked Hardens stuff down, the A’s were always looking to get him to throw more change ups and scale back the splitter but he never thought it was the splitter or slider that was hurting him, always a fluke injury.
"This has got to hurt"
by Da.aron on Aug 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or the spluckle
a splitter that danced like a knuckler. I would put Harden’s stuff up against anybody’s as some of the filthiest of all time. He was my favorite A’s pitcher but, like so many other A’s, had injuries derail a promising career.
"This has got to hurt"
but, but, but, there's the DATA! You can't argue with the DATA!
I don’t care what the pitcher says, Pitch f/X tells me he only throws two pitches, so that seals it for me!
(Pardon the sarcasm, but I’m really tired of people parsing subsets of data about pitches like their insights mean something when most of it is proof of the GIGO phenomenon…)
by realitypolice on Aug 24, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't do a good job of showing the Garza no-hitter
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 23, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You know how good a pitcher Blyleven was?
That’s about how bad an announcer he is.
The anchors on MLB network are awful
I think Rob Dibble might be worse than Joe Morgan. Dibble is likable but really has no clue what he’s talking about.
Bullpen Banter
www.bullpenbanter.com
twitter: @alskor
Dibble is likable?
That’s probably going too far for me. He is more of a loudmouth jackass than a likable fellow.
Haha
I personally can’t stand Dibble… but I meant – for many viewers – his down home country, laid back style is probably likable. I’m sure that’s what MLB Network thought when putting him on.
Also I didn’t want to 100% kill the guy here. He’s not good at his job.
Bullpen Banter
www.bullpenbanter.com
twitter: @alskor
Do you mean Mitch Williams?
Williams is pretty likeable and is on the MLB Network. Dibble is neither of those things.
Eh, you've heard one freak show washed up mediocre closer
you’ve heard ’em all.
by realitypolice on Aug 27, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Hank Conger
2-2, HR
continues to rake in August. September callup?
I hope
as an Angel fan I’d love to see him and Trumbo get the call up to see what theyve got.
Big Bats, We Don't Need No Stinkin Big Bats!
by angelskid2210 on Aug 23, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Balcom Miller 7 IP, 2 ER, 0 BB, 11 K
His line at Asheville: 103 IP, 78 H, 35 ER, 2 HR, 18 BB, 108 K, with a 2.10 GO/FO ratio. How is this flying under the radar?
Mike Newman of Scouting the Sally did a nice writeup on CBM recently. I like him a lot, though I expect that he’ll settle in as a mid-rotation pitcher. Upside might be Scott Baker peripherals with a 55% GB rate, which would be a very solid #2 starter. That’s obviously the best-case scenario. A nice, optimistic projection would be a solid #3 starter who can limit walks, post a respectable K rate, and induce lots of grounders.
Randall Delgado
Finally a good start after a rough adjustment period
6 IP | 6 H | 2 R/ER | 1 BB | 7 K
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Nice to see...
I was beginning to think he was wearing down.
jerry sands
another game another home run….. 33 on the year
wow .. .33 ? sheesh
I called on the exact pitch - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!
Why Oh Why did the D'Backs select A.J. Pollock over Mike Trout?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 24, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Brian Anderson struck out the side
hope it works out for him. hitting 97 according to Yost.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
was his arm good in the outfield?
i dont remember seeing/hearing anything about it being that special
Fire Everyone
by billybeingbilly on Aug 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
actually
i don’t either. never really associated him with having a great arm in the OF. then again i wasn’t really paying that much attention either.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
Dan Duffy
6 ip, 5 h, 1 er, 1 bb, 5 k
32/8 k/bb in 5 AA starts.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
Duffy is having a great season
Wonder how he will rank on lists considering the time he missed.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
Unless he's planning to retire/unretire every year
it shouldn’t have an impact.
He’s a 21-year-old lefty with a strong track record of performance at every level, good stuff, and a good pedigree. We have over 300 professional innings and scouting reports to evaluate on.
by realitypolice on Aug 24, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I should be more specific
He wasn’t really considered a top 100 candidate last year despite a good showing in the Carolina League, but this year he’s had great stats and improved velocity in a tough Texas League. However, he’s only thrown 50 IP this season, so is that enough to make the conclusion that he’s taken the next step as a prospect? There’s a good chance he’ll go to the AFL though so a decision doesn’t necessarily have to be made now.
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
ZVR
3IP, 3H, 0R, 0ER, 0BB, 3K
NICE SHORT OUTING.
Rangers
Derek Holland: 6IP 3H 1ER 3BB 5K 1HR
Leury Garcia: 0-1 3BB 2SB
Matt Thompson: 3IP 1 H 0R 0BB 3K
MDLS above
Randol Rojas: 5IP 4H 1ER 9K
Jurickson Profar: 2-4 2B BB 2RBI
Teodoro Martinez: 2-5 2B
David Perez: 6.0IP 2H 0R 2BB 7K
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Nats
Stephen Lombardozzi, 2B: 3-5, R, RBI, 2B, fielding error
Chris Marrero, 1B: 3-5, R, 2RBI, HR
Michael Burgess, DH: 0-3, RBI, 2BB, K
Danny Rosenbaum, LSP: 6IP, 1ER, 1H, 1BB, 4K, 1HR
Derek Norris, C: 1-6, RBI, 3K Apparently Norris is playing through some minor injuries. He had a sleeve on his wrist and is fighting through a sore a hamstring.
Tyler Moore, 1B: 2-6, 4K.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Delino DeShields Jr.
2-5 with a walk
Hitting well his first couple weeks
Duda/Evans
“LF Lucas Duda: 2-3, 2B, RBI, 2 R, 2 BB (.322/.394/.643) Double was off a lefty
1B Nick Evans: 1-4, 2B, RBI, R, BB (.310/.394/.586) Alas, only about two feet short from his fourth straight day with a homer.”
From amazinavenue SB Nation site.
The Mets have a lot of guys that are ‘tweeners, not that young, not that old, having good years, C+ish or maybe even B- for some. Ratliff (John said he’d give him a C+ likely in the AQA thread, power but too many Ks not enough BBs). Duda. Lutz. Campbell. Havens in a short stint. Satin. At lower levels Cecilliani, Vaughn, Puello. familia has pitched better recently, still some BB issues. The recent “grads” like Fernando Martinez, Davis and tejada haven’t done all that well, Thole ok, but this is Davis’s AAA year, and should have been with Fernando about now only, and Ruben should maybe even be AA. And mejia shouldn’t have been up but he seems to be doing quite well now, even with missed development time.
Not star-packed, Flores being the highest upside guy, but a lot of possible depth from the hitting side it appears. Maybe a couple could even turn into more. faint praise I guess, but a lot of guys slugging high .500s to .600s.
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