2010 Philadelphia Phillies Top 20 Pre-Season Prospects in Review
by John Sickels on Aug 20, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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2010 Philadelphia Phillies Top 20 Prospects in Review
Here is a review of the 2010 Phillies prospect list, originally published December 18, 2009. THIS IS A REVIEW OF THE OLD LIST AND PRE-SEASON GRADES. THIS IS NOT A NEW LIST. The 2011 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book.
Here is a review of the 2010 Phillies prospect list, originally published December 18, 2009. THIS IS A REVIEW OF THE OLD LIST AND PRE-SEASON GRADES. THIS IS NOT A NEW LIST. The 2011 list and new grades won't be ready until the season is over and I start writing the book.
1) Domonic Brown, OF, Grade B+: .327/.391/.589 with 17 steals, 20 homers between Double-A Reading and Triple-A Lehigh Valley. .244/.244/.439 in the majors so far, with significant issues with patience. I love this guy; he's going to be terrific with some additional adjustment time.
2) Trevor May, RHP, Grade B-: Struggled at High-A Clearwater early, 5.01 ERA with 90/61 K/BB in 70 innings. Sent back to Low-A Lakewood, now 2.44 with 67/18 K/BB in 48 innings. Excellent stuff (157 K in 118 IP, just 87 hits) so it all boils down to control.
3) Phillipe Aumont, RHP, Grade B-: Awful at Reading, 7.43 ERA with 38/38 K/BB in 50 innings. Demoted to Clearwater, 4.08 ERA with 60/36 K/BB in 57 innings. Command the big issue with this one too.
4) J.C. Ramirez, RHP, Grade B-: 4.06 ERA with 55/17 k/BB in 64 innings for Clearwater, 5.37 ERA with 52/21 K/BB in 67 innings for Reading, including 76 hits and 10 homers. He's capable of better but stock has dropped a bit.
5) Anthony Gose, OF, Grade C+: .265/.328/.394 for Clearwater and Dunedin in the Blue Jays system, 39 steals but caught 31 times. I respect his speed and athleticism but he's still very raw.
6) Sebastian Valle, C, Grade C+: .254/.298/.431 for Lakewood, 15 homers, 25 walks, 92 strikeouts in 406 at-bats. 33% of runners caught, error and passed ball rates are high. Not overly impressed yet but he's very young.
7) Domingo Santana, OF, Grade C+: .182/.322/.297 for Lakewood, .249/.342/.385 for Williamsport in the New York-Penn League. Very toolsy but doesn't know how to play yet.
8) Tyson Gillies, OF, Grade C+: .238/.286/.333 in 26 games for Reading. Just joined GCL Phillies for rehab assignment, missing most of season with bad hamstring. Gets a partial injury mulligan. NOTE: he was just arrested for cocaine possession; apparently his problems go deeper than injury.
9) Jarred Cosart, RHP, Grade C+: 3.79 ERA with 77/16 K/BB in 71 innings for Lakewood before going down with sore elbow. He was breaking through until the breakdown.
10) Antonio Bastardo, LHP, Grade C+: 1.93 ERA with 31/5 K/BB in 19 innings between brief Clearwater appearance and Lehigh Valley. 5.54 ERA in 13 major league innings, 14/9 K/BB. Still think he can be useful if he stays healthy.
11) Jonathan Singleton, 1B, Grade C+: .293/.391/.478 overall. The splits: .373/.460/.672 in first half, .237/.341/.342 in second half. Also has sharp platoon split. He's a fine fine prospect but he's not superhuman.
12) Scott Mathieson, RHP, Grade C+: 2.72 ERA, 22 saves, 73/21 K/BB in 56 innings for LHV, 40 hits. Excellent season.
13) Leandro Castro, OF, Grade C+: .264/.313/.426 for Lakewood, 19 steals. Not a great year, but not horrible either.
14) Brody Colvin, RHP, Grade C+: 3.19 ERA, 110/39 K/BB in 124 innings for Lakewood, 115 hits. Very good year, and this guy could make a huge amount of noise in 2011.
15) B.J. Rosenberg, RHP, Grade C+: Just 19 innings this year between Double-A and rehab assignments for lateral strain. Sample very small. 6.52 ERA, but also a 24/7 K/BB.
16) Jiwan James, OF, Grade C: .278/.327/.369 for Lakewood, 30 steals but caught 17 times, plate discipline needs a lot of work. Love the tools though.
17) Justin De Fratus, RHP, Grade C: Very good year, 1.57 ERA with 18 saves, 61/14 K/BB in 57 innings between Clearwater and Reading. Could help in pen sometime next year.
18) Zach Collier, OF, Grade C: Out all year with hamate injury.
19) Drew Carpenter, RHP, Grade C: 4.06 ERA, 95/48 K/BB in 126 innings, 129 hits for LHV. He might be able to pull a Scott Feldman on us next year and surprise for a year or two until the league figures him out.
20) Johan Flande, LHP, Grade C: 4.49 ERA with 70/40 K/BB in 140 innings, 155 hits for Reading. Blah season.
Brown and Singleton are the hitting stars of course, and there is the usual Phillies collection of great athletes with suspect bats. Sometimes they pan out (Brown) but the flip side of Brown is Anthony Hewitt. The pitching is very interesting, with May, Cozart, and Colvin all positioned to make noise next year.
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Matt Rizzotti?
Where does he fit in with Howard long term (ugh), and Singleton down the road? He’ll be 25 at the end of the year, does he need a trade or does it even matter?
Shit happens when you party naked
May
He’s skyrocketing up my list. He’s pitching solidly better than he did last year in A ball (BB and K rate both solidly better). Obviously he struggled badly in high A ball, mainly with control, which could be in significant part due to facing more patient hitters that won’t chase, but the improvement in his BB rate since moving down has been VERY encouraging. He’s had two games where he’s walked none (piling up 26 Ks in those 2 starts), and he hasn’t had any real horrible games where he loses it completely. His two worst control games since his demotion were on July 11th and 16th where in each game he pitched 5 innings, with 9K and 3BB. Again, I’m very encouraged.
by auclairkeithbc on Aug 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
Hard not to love those numbers
Be very interesting to track him moving back up.
Anyone have an opinion on Austin Hyatt?
He’s a little older, but he had great numbers at Clearwater.
It was a great selection of awesome.
Tyson Gillies
Arrested for cocaine possession
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100820_Phillies_prospect_arrested_in_cocaine_bust.html
how timely
Apparently you CAN buy that fast-twitch athleticism.
Difference between use and abuse
John’s note above on Gillies about his “problems” is premature. Right now, the only problem he has is that he’s in legal trouble. We don’t know that he had a “problem” with cocaine use, at least not from what I’ve seen, and it’s entirely possible that the biggest problem he will have from cocaine will stem from its illegality rather than using it. Raise your hands if you or everyone you know that has ever used an illegal drug went on to have a “problem” with it… not many hands I see. I got my PhD by the age of 25 and I did all sorts of crap; that’s what college is for, right? (sort of)
I realize that’s getting a little off-baseball but I just hate to see people jump to conclusions just because the government fed them an answer. There are legitimate questions about whether various drugs should be legal or illegal and just assuming that illegal = problem may actually make the problems associated with drugs worse, not better.
by Fierce Invalids on Aug 20, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I think we all know the difference between use and abuse. The biggest problem he will have from cocaine does not stem from its illegality, it stems from the fact that using cocaine at all is just dumb, and using it is especially dumb for a professional athlete who should be taking much better care of his body than that. I don’t need “the government” to tell me that. We’re not debating whether or not cocaine should be legal.
I agree with your criminalization tangent
I see no reason why a person cannot choose what substance (no matter how harmful) he wishes to consume.
However, this is a big problem for Gillies. He was looking fringy before this situation came to light, and I doubt the Phillies will have much patience with him now.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
not a great farm system after all the trades
but right now they are extremely attractive to FA and could put a bunch of great years together.
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
Except they basically have no money to spend
They already almost 144 million committed next year (over 5 million more than this year) to only 18 players. In 2012 they already have almost 90 million committed in buyouts and 7 players. Add in what Hamels will get in arbitration and that’s over 100 million with needs at SS, 3B, LF, 2 SP, a bullpen, and a bench.
2012
Granted they will have very little money to spend, but they can fill out their bullpen and bench with guys like De Fratus, Mathieson, Schwimer, Harold Garcia, Rizzotti. Polanco is under contract through 2012 with a mutual option for 2013. Worley will have a chance to make the rotation as early as next year. Freddy Galvis has a great glove at SS but will probably never turn into a great hitter, he might get a chance at in 2012 but I can’t see the Phillies getting rid of Rollins.
http://phightinmathematician.blogspot.com/
by annarborphillie on Aug 20, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right I forgot about Polanco at 3B
But the rest of what you’re saying kind of proves my point. They’re going to have to go almost all internal for the bench and bullpen, and given the lack of depth currently in their farm system and their lack of ability to produce players as of late, I’d be a little worried. There’s going to be a lot of pressure on the farm system because of the amount of money they have dedicated to so few players. And we aren’t even considering the fact that some of those guys are almost certain to regress by that point.
I definitely agree with you there is cause for worry due to too many long term contracts. If they keep winning and selling out games (100th straight last night) they might be able to increase their payroll, but I think eventually they will have to start giving roles to mediocre prospects. They definitely have some guys in the lower minors right now that are full of potential and as John said could break out next season. So I think their farm system is improving even though it has fallen off after some trades.
http://phightinmathematician.blogspot.com/
by annarborphillie on Aug 20, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I would contend the trades didn’t make that much of a difference. Drabek and Taylor hurt, but Carrasco, Donald and Marson wouldn’t have solved any of those problems, as Marson and Donald will probably be career backups, and god knows what Carrasco is. Knapp hurts, but that is offset by the Phillies having a pile of similar arms in Single-A equally as far from the rotation as Knapp currently is.
The Trades cost us a replacement for Oswalt and a replacement for Ibanez, but the holes at 3B and SS would still be there. As it stands, I figure Worley gets a shot at 5th starter next year and Cosart is possibly ready to play in 2012 or 2013 for the big club. For replacing Ibanez, they may need to get by with Francisco for a year and hope Dugan, James, Castro, Eldemire or someone else can be ready in 2 or 3 years (which is possible).
Bullpen isn’t a big issue, as annarbor said Schwimmer, Rosenberg, Bastardo, Mathieson, DeFratus, Hyatt and Herndon are all hanging around as possibilities. Plus relievers fluctuate so much from year to year, you can make that argument about most any team in baseball.
Right now I think James is the only possible replacement for Ibanez as soon as 2013. 2010 is only his first full season since being converted and he hasn’t done terrible. It’s still too early to tell since he’s only in Lakewood. Gillies would have been an option but with his injuries and now this cocaine thing who knows. Gose would have been an option, too, but he’s gone now.
http://phightinmathematician.blogspot.com/
by annarborphillie on Aug 20, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Gillies still could be. Lots of 21 year olds are morons, as long as it doesn’t balloon into a bigger problem for him, he has the talent to Play CF (I think Vic would more to RF and Downtown Dom Brown would more to LF).
So many jokes about Gillies are possible...
but Ill go with, I guess he is going to have another stint in rehab :P
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Gillies is sort of a wild card but I wouldn’t bank on him being in the Phillies future plans for now. Best case scenario he gets the charges dismissed or does community service in the off-season, but even then I don’t know how it would effect his work visa.
http://phightinmathematician.blogspot.com/
by annarborphillie on Aug 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
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