Signing Deadline
by John Sickels on Aug 16, 2010 11:01 AM EDT
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PrintWe will get back to the Top 20 reviews tomorrow. The big news today is of course the midnight signing deadline. Use this thread to discuss the latest news, rumors, and signings.
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I'll kick it off
Mentioned this in the “Signing Status” thread, but Arizona has reportedly agreed to a seven figure bonus to get toolsy prep OF Ty Linton away from UNC.
Linton
Solid signing as it appears they used the Loux money to get it done. Actually Linton plus the #7 pick next year is better than Loux and no Linton or additional 1st Rd pick IMO.
assuming we're talking about Loux post-physical, I'll agree
Still, I really liked Linton as a guy who could have turned into an elite draft prospect very quickly at UNC. I guess the questions now are: how much did it cost, and do they have enough money to get Kevin Ziomek away from Vanderbilt? I’m guessing no, but I’m sure I’ll be surprised more than a few times today.
Loux
I was actually never a huge fan of Loux pre-physical. Not saying Linton is going to be elite but the #7 pick in 2011 draft will get a player that is much better than Loux IMO and Linton will be a nice prospect to watch progress. But everyone has their own thoughts…those are just mine.
Overdraft
I understand it would be unprotected and they would have to play it safe…but getting the best near/at slot signable player at #7 next year is better than Loux IMO. They will have most likely another Top 10 pick that they can gamble with a tougher sign if they choose.
Loux himself was an overdraft
They had him signing for below slot and he was only considered supplemental talent going into the draft
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
He was a borderline first rounder
Loux gets bashed too often, he was a very good prospect before the physical.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
Loux
A lot of people were much higher on him than I was. On my personal list he was a 2nd Rd talent. But in my mocks I had him going in the 1st multiple times as so many others were much higher on him than I. Its a preference…I was praying my Cards didn’t pick him!
It was still an overdraft...
based on talent. Not saying he was a bad pitcher, but he didn’t deserve to go that early. Next years pick would be better because you could make an overdraft and still get a better talent because of the depth of high end talent.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
maybe
If the Diamondbacks were looking to keep costs down with that pick this year and drafted a player earlier than anticipated, why would it be any different next year? I don’t see a reason why they would change their philosophy, so if you weren’t thrilled with the process and pick this year, I’m guessing you might not be thrilled with the same next year.
Well Put
Linton has the tools to make that a very good deal for the DBacks. Any Top 10 pick in next years draft will have an elite talent level player available.
Loux
Something just tells me the Dbacks will sign him for way less than the going rate. I just cant see them paying for 2 top 10 picks next year..
Re: Loux
Everything I am hearing is there is very little to no chance of Loux signing now. They can pay for 2 – Top 10 picks if both or at least one is at/near slot. They just won’t get many/any later round gambles most likely. I would much rather have the 2 high picks next year and spend the money then.
Braves
2 biggest questions remaining are Stefan Sabol and Zach Alvord. Sabol is apparently leaning toward signing.
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/8/16/1625236/stefan-sabol-leaning-towards
I haven’t heard much on Alvord, other than it will take plenty of $$ to keep him from going to Auburn.
alvord
Last night, Kevin Goldstein seemed to think the Braves were going to get Alvord done. I’m surprised that either one will get done . . .now it seems pretty likely that both are going to join up. Sign of the times I guess . . .teams are showing some signs of worry about a hard slot system and they’re getting things done while they can.
Alvord/Sabol
I still believe only 1 will get done…but both would be a nice surprise for Braves fans.
Personally I don't think the Braves will sign either
They go cheap on drafts which is why I was shocked when they splurged and spent a million plus on Sacedo. A couple years ago when the Braves drafted Rendon and he asked for 100K more than what the Braves offered(250K, I think) for him to forgo college and we see how that turned out. Now all of the kids aren’t going to turn out that good but they’re worth a shot.
so it would require the money
to be paid within a year, right? Interesting (not for any specific reason, just generally)
by BurgherKing on Aug 16, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You can spread out signing bonuses.
of course, most likely, a lot of it would be paid up front, but there’s no rule saying you can’t.
A signing bonus isn’t a contract, so he’d make the minor league salary when he was in the minors, and the MLB minimum when he got called up, and go through arbitration like any other player would.
Needs moar dingerz.
And, more importantly, he wouldn't have to be on the 40-man immediately (which means he won't be burning options)
Totally alleviates the pressure to advance him too fast if he struggled initially.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you
Although, knowing Boras as I do, I think there will be added incentives such that Harper could earn $1-3M more if he reaches certain benchmarks.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
8 figures, no major league deal
If I’m Rizzo, I’d be MUCH more willing to give him more money than to give him the major league deal. He needs all his development time in the minors.
Needs moar dingerz.
MLB deals are unlikely at this point unless the guy has undergone a physical already
and i highly doubt harper has
this came up with the “pedro alvarez” mess
Harper
I agree, I think he’ll get the highest bonus for a position player and for a JuCo player, but not more than Strasburg. So, I’d see it in the $10-12M range. I’d be surprised if it wasn’t at least eight figures.
As for a major league deal, I don’t think that makes sense, he’ll probably not make the Majors until late 2012 at the earliest, and more likely 2013.
$15 million
Is my guess. Strasburg got $15.1, so it keeps him under that but also gives him plenty of bragging rights.
That's not really true though
He got that much total, but it was only a $7.5M bonus. The rest is paid over 4 seasons.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
Lucas Leblanc
A surprise signing for BoSox fans – Leblanc signed for roughly $500K per Kendall Rogers
Wonder if they means they are reallocating funds from Workman? I’m probably reading too much into that though
17 Rd pick Myles Jaye has signed with the Jays for reported third round money(250,000)
http://www.fayettedailynews.com/article.php?id_news=6240
AJ Cole?
Did he got done in the end?
by mattp31 on Aug 16, 2010 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yep
For $2M and Solis is done as well for $1M. When they lock up the big guy at the top this will be a dynamite draft for them IMO
Rumor is that Robbie got done for 800K as well.
Nats puttin’ their money where their mouth is.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Rumor has it that the Giants’ 23rd round pick, Alec Asher, had signed a deal and flown to their minor league complex in AZ the middle of last week, only to fail his physical due to bone spurs in his elbow. Very similar to what happened to Loux, but much less money involved and no comp pick.
Asher is a RHP out of Florida’s Lakeland High School (where his teammates were Yordy Cabrera and Eri Arce). I heard that he’ll have an operation and honor his Santa Fe JC commitment after all.
"There ain’t much to being a ballplayer, if you’re a ballplayer." - Honus Wagner
So he should be declared a free agent and be able to sign with anyone September 1st, right?
Boras is going to have a field day with this one…. sigh.
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Cowart
I think I have read their intentions are to use him at 3B out of the gate as pitching as his fall back. I personally think that is the right decision as I like his bat quite a bit and it is easier to go from hitting back to pitching IMO.
Is Gary Brown expected to sign?
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Yes
Callis seems to think Loux might be the only unsigned first rounder.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee
If there is one 1st Rdr that is most likely not to sign besides Loux it is Lee. Many think it will take over $3M to sign him and many think the Dodgers can’t/won’t do it. I am with the majority on this one and it was a head scratcher they took such a gamble on draft day with him
I think he signs...
if the Dodgers let him play football. I would offer 2 mil, college tuition, and the right to keep playing football.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
I wouldn't...
Give him that much and let him play football. Too many injuries in that sport.
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Lee
keithlaw
Sounds like if Zach Lee doesn’t sign, the reason won’t be money as the Dodgers are going to offer him a mint.
http://bullpenbanter.com
Interesting
Maybe me along with many others will be dead wrong on this one. To me this would be one of the bigger surprise signings of the draft if it happened.
that'd be pretty cool
I absolutely loved Zach Lee. I thought he might’ve even gotten a little overlooked due to the bonus demands.
Jays wrap up Myles Jaye, their 17th pick
250k+ cost so 3rd round money for him.
this is obviously a couple days old
But, haven’t heard anything on Plutko or Jones… both headed to school I suppose. Was hoping Astros could’ve snuck one of them in.
by byronlhsdrmr on Aug 16, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Jones
Nothing new today but all signs point to him going to school. He was a known VERY tough sign on draft day and nothing reported has changed on that front.
About time
on Wates. One of the more unexpected holdouts imo. Dude still has to pick and learn a position. Wasted time.
by blackoutyears on Aug 16, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Might not have been a holdout
The Astros might have offered him a decent-sized overslot bonus and MLB just took its sweet time in giving them the go-ahead.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly
but he wasn’t considered a guy who was going to demand significantly over slot money. I guess we’ll see when his bonus is announced.
by blackoutyears on Aug 16, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
just guessing
But breaking off talks with Plutko this early may be a sign that the Astros have decided to focus their efforts on getting Jones to sign. The Astros really love that kid.
Glad to hear this.
What do you love about him?
Heard he has good defense in center and good power. What about his plate discipline? Who would you compare him too?
comps
I like him as both a hitter and pitcher, but if he wants to hit I’d let him. Comp….well I see him as someone who can hit .280, 20+ homer power, steals early in his career, some strikeouts but a good OBP, strong glove. Just a good strong player who can do a lot of things well.
by John Sickels on Aug 16, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he will be that similar to BJax
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 16, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
.280/.350/.500, 20+ homers and a good glove in the outfield
would be awesome. Can’t wait to see him play. I think him and Colon could become very good pieces. Not superstars but perfect role players even though i dont think “role player” is a term used for baseball lol. You guys know what i mean.
Kyle Blair
Per Mayo the Indians signed their 4th Rdr Kyle Blair – this was a solid value pick on draft day. I had him going as high as the 1st Supp round. No word on bonus yet.
Yeah
I’m a fan too. Blair could move pretty quickly, and his upside is possible MoR arm. Pommy, Blair and White make for three nice college arms in two drafts.
by blackoutyears on Aug 16, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So?
As I think Aaron Fitt said earlier today, his family is wealthy and he didn’t need the money. He wanted to go to college and play baseball.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
Yeah
Ideally you make your money in the pros. Sweating the difference between his h.s. and college signing bonuses is nitpicking. And who knows, he might have actually learned a thing or two about pitching while at USD and he seems to have enjoyed himself along the way, mountain climbing and all.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm
If I were the Rangers I would have passed on giving 825K to a future reliever and spent the extra 700K on a better 1st round prospect like Josh Sale over Jake Skole. Although we’ll have to see how much Sale gets.
If they really liked Skole they could have likely taken him with the 22nd pick.
well
They did really like Skole. And they took Kellin Deglan, who they also really like, with the 22nd pick and signed him for $1 million. The Rangers have played this draft exceptionally well, blending easy signs with a few tough signs to add both quality and depth to the system.
Rangers, Grimm, Skole, Sale
The Rangers MAY have played this draft well. They MAY have also played it horribly.
They passed on the second best high school hitter to take Skole who likely would have been there at 22.
Deglan is a solid prospect but could be considered a reach at 22(his signing bonus is evidence of that). His expected range was more in the supp 1st round but I wouldn’t go as far as to say the Rangers could have had him with their 3rd or 4th selection. Deglan is a good defender and has a promising bat. Teams certainly like that combo in every position player and he probably wouldn’t have been on the board much longer.
As for Grimm, it’s rare to see a raw college pitcher turn into a major league starting pitcher. The odds are against it happening. I certainly applaud the Rangers for spending the money on a guy they liked. I’m just not a fan. The one pitcher I saw the most this spring was Grimm and I was never very impressed. He was the guy I was hoping the Cardinals avoided throughout the early rounds of the draft this year.
how could you say they played it horribly?
They passed on Sale because they wanted somebody who would sign quickly and for slot. Sale obviously isn’t signing for slot later today. They took Deglan because they loved him, didn’t think he’d be there for their next pick, and he was an easy sign that left their options open later in the draft.
Draft “experts” (let alone guys like you and me) get this stuff wrong ALL THE TIME. One of the biggest reasons why teams get it wrong is because they listen to other people and end up with the guys that other people want rather than the guys that they want. The Rangers got a bunch of players that they like and managed to do it with a lot of confusion in their budget.
How could you say they played it exceptionally well when
Skole and Deglan may hit .220 in the lower minors and wind up with the River City Rascals in 4 years?
You keep saying that the Rangers got guys they wanted and liked but you keep mixing in that they took guys who would sign quickly and for slot. Were they passing on guys they liked even more to take these cheap signs? Possibly.
I understand the Rangers draft and why you like it. Go cheap in round 1 then expensive later on and come away with multiple top prospects, none of which are outstanding on draft day. It’s a somewhat innovative strategy but one that is not certain to pay off just like every other strategy.
Like I said, I’ll have to see what Sale gets, but if he signs for less than 700K over what Skole got then I would have gone for, IMO, the better player. That’s just me(I can’t stress that enough).
clearly you just don't like the players that they got
Sale could be a terrible hitter as well. I don’t think he will be, but he could. You’re giving your personal opinion and trying to pass it off as objective analysis. And yes, I’m aware that you said “that’s just me”, but I’m not seeing other people who think that Skole or Deglan are as crappy as you seem to be imagining.
They liked those guys, they thought those guys were good prospects, they wanted guys who would sign quickly, they wanted guys who would sign for slot. All four of those can be exclusive of one another; for the Rangers, it’s pretty obvious that they wanted to take players in the first round who satisfied the entire set of criteria.
Wow
You said:
“but I’m not seeing other people who think that Skole or Deglan are as crappy as you seem to be imagining.”
I said:
“Deglan is a good defender and has a promising bat. Teams certainly like that combo in every position player and he probably wouldn’t have been on the board much longer.’
I haven’t even given my opinion of Skole. All I’ve said is that I liked Sale better and I think most people are in that boat.
If that is all you’ve got then you don’t have much. IMO your argument had a hole(s) from the beginning but now you are just making stuff up. Discussion over for me.
that's fine, I don't really care if you respond to me or not.
My argument had no holes. I didn’t make anything up. You posted: “How could you say they played it exceptionally well when Skole and Deglan may hit .220 in the lower minors and wind up with the River City Rascals in 4 years?” That was the very first thing you said about these two players. Am I supposed to think that you think well of these guys from that? About Deglan specifically, you wrote:
“Deglan is a solid prospect but could be considered a reach at 22(his signing bonus is evidence of that). His expected range was more in the supp 1st round but I wouldn’t go as far as to say the Rangers could have had him with their 3rd or 4th selection. Deglan is a good defender and has a promising bat. Teams certainly like that combo in every position player and he probably wouldn’t have been on the board much longer.”
So first he was a solid prospect, then a reach, then a guy who wouldn’t have been on the board much longer. Nicely argued.
Deglan
looks very, very interesting. Needs some tweaks but has a fluid swing that should generate power. Very projectable physique, smart and motivated, chance to stick at C. I see why TEX liked him. And arguing over where a guy is drafted, or should have been drafted. or whatever, is pointless. Kupe is dead right that good teams take the guy they like, and pundits be damned. TEX was drafting against 29 other teams, not BA’s or Keith Law’s draft rankings and certainly no the opinions here.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Money often stands between teams taking THE guy they want.
If the Rangers were worried about Josh Sale holding out for a little extra money(turned out to be not too much at all) and went for Skole as a quick sign instead while also believing they would spend 700K above slot on a late round signing(turned out to be Grimm), then I’m not a fan of that strategy(although I still can’t stress it enough that that is my opinion).
However we will never know the truth. We just have to believe the Rangers liked a guy who wasn’t among the top 200 draft prospects according to BA over the 2nd best high school hitter. The Cubs did go for Hayden Simpson.
And remember that BA doesn’t compile their top 200 based on what Jim Callis sees in players. It’s based on the opinions of scouts and scouting directors. They get subscribers for a good reason.
BTW, I didn’t have much problem with the Deglan pick for the reasons you mentioned. Between Deglan and the next best catcher, Justin O’Conner, the difference wasn’t that great.
BA top 200
Even BA admits that in the interval between publication of that list and the draft, their rankings change pretty dramatically. I think they may have even commented previously (not sure on this, would have to look it up) that Skole was one of the fastest rising players in the last few days before the draft, and that if they were to have published a top 200 just prior to the draft, Skole would have been on there with plenty of room to spare.
I believe that
I heard a lot of good things about Skole in the days leading up to the draft and was surprised he wasn’t a top 200 guy in the scout’s consensus opinion.
I agree, Buck
not a year with many worthy h.s. C prospects, especially as O’Connor was a convert and many scouts weren’t particularly convinced. What I like about Deglan is that he looks like he might hit enough to be useful at a less premium position if necessary.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
not entirely sure Grimm is going to be a sure future reliever
seems like many people think he needs some work on his mechanics to fix most of his problems. Could easily become one of those cases of a guy that a college hurt more than helped. If it is a simple tweak then the 825k is well spent
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
He has the fastest delivery I've ever seen
It’s almost as if you took a video of a regular wind up and played it at 3x speed.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
my question is going to be how much will slowing down his hurried motion
will effect his lower half. To me it seemed like he has a hard time keeping his lower body in sync. When completely in sync with is upper and lower body he had flashes of dominance. I am curious how different his motion will look when everyone gets a good look at him when ST comes back around.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
he's a pretty interesting prospect
Could very well be this year’s version of Garrett Richards.
Imagine if they sign...
Those two and Luis Heredia too. Would be one of the best influx of arms we have ever seen! I know that may be an exaggeration, but it would still be pretty awesome.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
I'm very hopeful right now on the Dodgers being able to sign Zach Lee
and hopefully Joc Pederson as well. Please don’t let me down, Dodgers front office.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Done
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2795
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Dodger fans
should be just as interested in Gausman. Quite a few scouts prefer him to Lee.
by blackoutyears on Aug 16, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Gausman
Was very high on my draft board all year. Had him going anywhere from mid-late 1st Rd to 1st Supp. He would be a great sign but it will take some dough to get him for sure.
Gausman...
isn’t really in Lee’s league. If any scout prefered Gausman it would have been becuase they thought there was no chance of Lee signing. Lee is a top 5 HS arm in this years class and possibly top 3.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
No
Lee was nowhere near that high, and Gausman is more projectable. I don’t often say someone is flat out wrong, but in this case you are.
by blackoutyears on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Gausman vs. Zach Lee
People seem to forget that Gausman’s stock was slipping quite a bit in the months leading up to the draft while Lee’s stock was very high.
Lee was 29th in BA’s top 200 while Gausman was 50th.
I had Lee at 13th in my final ranking while Gausman wasn’t in my top 50.
Lee
is very projectable, but it’s not Lee vs. Gausman, it’s Lee vs. every other available player. The idea that the h.s. arms in order of excellence were Taillon, Whitson, Lee is a rash assertion when there are guys with comparable or better stuff and more polish in Cole/Covey/Bedrosian/Sanchez and guys with comparable or better stuff and similar polish in Gausman/Cowart/Foltynewicz/Tago/Jenkins/Walker. Some people may forget that Gausman’s stock was slipping as you say, but I’m not among them. I followed his progress all year and actually predicted fairly early that he was going to slip because his velo was down and he performed poorly in a key showcase and a couple of other viewings. That slippage should not be confused with lack of ability, and scouts of projection, rather than performance, continue to extol him.
He has as good a chance as any kid in this draft to radically out perform his perceived value on Draft Day. Lots of work to do, but he’s a special arm, a very confident guy, and I’m extremely happy for Mainieri that he landed Gausman. It will be no surprise if Gausman is a top half of 1st Rd draft prospect in 2013.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Gausman a lot
Had a mediocre spring, but seems to have rebounded this summer. I expect big things from him at LSU.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
he isnt signing
he has told the team he is going to LSU
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 16, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And for next year...
With Rendon pretty much falling into our laps considering our current way of play we get some high talent bats along with the mass of pitchers weve gotten over the past 2 years and with the vets of clutch alvarez and tabata the deep deep tunnel DL dug is now gone and by 2014 hopefully we are a normal respectable mlb club LETS GO BUCS!
It's probably gonna be...
either Rendon or Purke for us next year. It will be Purke if Rendon doesn’t prove that he is healthy. If it is Purke we could have a rotation that goes something like this in the next 5 years:
1. Jameson Taillon
2. Matt Purke
3. Stetson Allie
4. Colton Cain
5. Zach Von Rosenberg or Bryan Morris
THAT would be a sweet rotation.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
I wouldn't necessarily say it'll be Rendon or Purke
Lots can change in a year, even among the top talents. Even more so with the kind of talent in next year’s draft.
Not The Last Few Years Though
Harper, Strasburg, Price & Jupton were all pretty much rock solid bets to #1 in their respective years.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 16, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Allie
As with most young fireballers his secondary stuff will be crucial, but with an arm like his and the mentality his has (supposedly) he could be a top flight closer also. Also, no Rudy Owens love? Not to mention that they have a plethora of guys that could develop into back of the rotation guys. Lorin, Pribanic, McDonald, Adcock, Pounders, Dodson, Wilson, and more. Huntington has done a wonderful job of bringing in talent and there is a lot of reasons to be an optimistic Pirates fan (weird to say)
It's probably gonna be...
either Rendon or Purke for us next year. It will be Purke if Rendon doesn’t prove that he is healthy. If it is Purke we could have a rotation that goes something like this in the next 5 years:
1. Jameson Taillon
2. Matt Purke
3. Stetson Allie
4. Colton Cain
5. Zach Von Rosenberg or Bryan Morris
THAT would be a sweet rotation.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Yea, but remember Ranaudo last year. He was supposed to be #2 and fell for reasons we all know. Anything can happen. Injuries. Poor performance. Anything.
This is unfortunatly very very true
but still either rendon, purke, or a player like either of them would greatly benefit the bucs
Amen
Lets Go Bucs!
Oh and if you guys want to read the true idiocarcy pirate fans have to deal with on a daily basis when it comes to pittsburgh media read this
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Please do not!!!!
post Smizik articles. Us Pirate fans do not wanting him getting more readers. The less readers, the more likely he goes back into retirement.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
idiocarcy...
Oh man…idiocartic pirates fans…
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by Dttl89 on Aug 16, 2010 8:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No matter what...
it should be a really good prospect. Even if we overdraft it should be a good prospect because of the depth of high end talent in next years draft. Taylor Jungmann, Gerrit Cole, Purke, Rendon, Travis Harrison, Daniel Norris, Sonny Gray, Jack Armstrong, Jackie Bradley, Archie Bradley, Dylan Bundy, Alex Meyer, Henry Owens, Preston Tucker, Dwight Smith, Andrew Suarez, Zach Cone, and I could keep on going. It is an outstanding class. Any of the guys I named above would have more than likely gone top 5 this year.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Don't count out Cole
Cole and Purke are a lot closer than you are suggesting. A strong junior year could easily push Cole past Purke.
I love Purke
but I’d take Cole as of today. Hard to lose with either one.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
BoSox
Signed 8th Rdr Matt Price (draft eligible Soph from Va Tech) – Not a huge upside guy but has some pitches that flash plus. Needs to work on delivery and control (which many times goes hand-in-hand).
Joc Pederson has signed for 600 K with the Dodgers according to Baseball America
Don’t have a link, but I think it’s official.
Pederson was a USC commit drafted in the 11th round. This is a big win for the Dodgers, let’s hope the news gets even better with Lee coming to the Dodgers.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Sean Coyle signs for $1.3 million with the Red Sox
Big money for very talented MIF. Not a great day for UNC fans.
I like him too
I really don’t get the complaints.
Obsession
with walk rates. In general low college walk rates can be an indicator of future issues, but if anyone could be an exception it’s Borwn, right? Amazing contact ability and elite speed that should make for quite a few infield hits. There are questions based on his walk rate, but what prospect doesn’t have questions? Just makes him more interesting to follow imo.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Another BoSox rumor
Sources are saying Cecchini and the BoSox are close to a deal and its almost certainly going to get done by the deadline tonight. All I can say is WOW BoSox! This is a guaranteed Top 2 draft and very easiely could be the best overall draft. Will have to see how the dust settles
Wow…awesome stuff. Top 2 Draft? Who do you like at 1? I’m not being criticial here, just curious. I’d guess you have the Nats/Pirates at 1 once Harper/Taillon/Allie go down.
Nats
Harper is that good and you put Solis and Cole with him and that is 3 guys I liked alot. Ray and Hague were solid signings as well. Pirates also will be solid if they get Allie and Taillon to go with Rojas and Kingham. There are other teams but I would have to do more research. I also like the Braves draft alot…and if they get even one of Sabol or Alvord it will look even better.
Pirates draft is solid?
If they sign Allie and Taillon it is amazing. They were ranked 1-2 in the draft in terms of pure stuff. Them two alone would be insane, but they also got tough signs like Kingham, Jared Lakind, Ryan Hafner, and Mel Rojas jr.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Red Sox are top 2 though...
but that depends on if they sign Ranaudo. If not it is still top 5, but there are some I still like better.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Calm down!
We all have our opinions. Allie has an electric FB for sure and if he makes it as a starter it could be dynamite. But that is no sure thing. Taillon was the best arm in the draft IMO hands down. Rojas is solid but nothing to get that worked up about and Kingham is someone I see as a mid-back rotation guy. I said the draft was solid if those 2 guys sign. IF Allie makes it as a starter it will be very very solid.
as usual
The answer to the question, “Which guys will the Red Sox sign?” is “everybody”.
Cecchini is definitely theirs. Still a few guys to get done. Ranaudo obviously, but Eric Jaffe could probably be had and it wouldn’t surprise me to see a deal come through in the last few minutes.
Lot of money, but he would’ve been sophomore eligible in 2 years time. Guess that gave him some extra leverage.
yeah, it's the same amount that Kellin Deglan got
I thought I heard that GTech had upgraded his scholarship to a full package and that he had bumped his demands slightly as a result.
Of the teams who have players that have signed and been playing for a month or two now from this draft class
I’m wondering what team has had the best draft in terms of that so far.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
obviously a plug for a certain obvious team
and not sure how this matters at all either.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
Yes, it’s obviously a plug (for the nothing I’m trying to pimp out)…
Who cares what it matters, I was wondering for myself. It means nothing except I wonder of the players signed and already playing what draft class would look the best. It would mean nothing significant, just something I’d be interested at looking at.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Rox
Signed Peter Tago 1st Supp Rdr – One of my favorite pitchers in the draft…was really pushing for my Cards to snag him.
Here's some video and a game report
Reply fail
That was a response to JDizzidy’s post regarding Alex Lavisky.
by Jordan Tuwiner on Aug 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pirates sign Allie?
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 16, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Stetson Allie signed with Pirates.
Per mlbtraderumors.com
Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland paper tweeted it.
Still from...
Allie’s area. I believe it. They also announced Drew Maggi who they say has gotten more than $600,000
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Allie
Assuming it is true I will be extremely curious what the bonus is. He was said to have a very high bonus demand going into the draft…so you really had to believe in him as a starter to pay the money he was wanting…now lets see if he got it.
Bonus
I would guess at least $2.25M and probably $2.5M. You better be quite sure that he’s a starter to pay that kind of dough!
I'll say 2.55M
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 16, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Pirates blog has him signing at 2.25M
good price now to see what the tallion deal is…
I disagree with this statement.
Of course it would be much more beneficial for him to become a starter (both in terms of WAR in the future as well as economically). BUT, if you draft him and he turns into a future standout closer, although it would be disappointing, in the long run he will still be worth a heck of a lot more than the $2-3 mil he received when he was drafted.
Well
A good closer is worth A LOT of money in free agency. About as much as a mid rotation starter. If Allie becomes a good closer then the money will have been spent well.
No...
it will not have been well spent. If we wanted a closer we could have chosen Swagerty later and signed him for less. He also would have been up sooner. He HAS to be a starter to justify such a high bonus. How many other relieversget that big of a bonus. Even Storen didn’t get that.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Swagerty
IMO he’s not a closer. Maybe a Ryan Franklin type closer but his potential is 7th-8th inning reliever. He throws 90-93 with a good curveball and nothing else. He’s not spectacular.
Great talent comes with a high signing bonus. Stetson Allie is better than the relievers that were in this class. You’re getting a better shot to get a great major leaguer with Allie.
Of course Allie might walk 100 in his first 100 innings and flame out in High A but that is the risk with every draft prospect.
He will get every opportunity to start
Probably more of an opportunity in the Pirates system than in most others due to the lack of pitching. I also disagree. While it would suck if he doesn’t have the command/secondary to stick in the rotation, it does not take much MLB performance to justify a couple million dollar investment. If he’s an MLB closer, he’ll be well worth the money.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
OT: but I'd appreciate any help
Does anyone know where to find accurate info on what the eligibility rules are for the Arizona Fall League? Bunch of confusion I’m trying to sort out and I’m learning that mlb.com’s official link may be wrong.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Randomly interesting/funny Zach Lee thing
Apparently LSU closed their afternoon football practice today, leading to some buzz that Lee is not present at said practice. As big as he’d be for LSU baseball, LSU football is absolutely terrified of losing him. Considering how important LSU football is to people who live around there . . .it may get a little nutty.
Other LSU news, apparently Cecchini wanted $1.35 million from the Red Sox. He appears to have agreed to terms, but those are not public yet.
Cecchini signs for 1.31M
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee isnt at practice
his family is meeting with the Dodgers. Didnt know about the closed practice though haha
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 16, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you should probably understand
If Lee signs with the Dodgers, the entire state of Louisiana is going to take a LONG time to forgive you guys.
yea
on TBLA, there was someone who went onto a fanpost that I wrote begging the Dodgers to not sign Lee…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 16, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Michael Lorenzen not signing
Heading to Cal St. Fullerton
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I know there are some people who don't like him
But I like him, I think he’s got a chance to be sneaky good. Could hit for average with a nice glove at a number of positions, big enough frame to envision some power potential.
This is a very general statement I'm going to make about the draft: I don't put too much exhaustive effort into pinning my hopes onto any player that's not considered "elite"
Depending on the strength of the draft this can include nobody, or guys into the 2nd round.
Nick Franklin and Mike Trout and Wil Myers for example. I’m willing to get excited about guys after they’ve put in some minor league time.
Littlewood is probably not a bad choice for the 2nd round. And the M’s got some good gets later on.
by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 16, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Other updates
Marcus Littlewood – signed for $900k with the Mariners
Blake Perry – 6th rounder signs overslot deal with Diamondbacks for $600k
Kevin Goldstein – skips out on one of biggest days of the year in his profession to go host a TV show that like 15 people are going to be watching (14 if you don’t count his dog)
Drew Vettleson
Is in or on his way to Tampa per Facebook. Wish he woulda lasted so the Mariners could him.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
2%
just because somehow there can always be some form of paperwork or technology disaster
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
0
Latest reports have the negotiations moving steadily along, nobody seems to be worried.
STETSON ALLIE HAS SIGNED
per twitter of Paul Hoynes:
#Pirates, according to sources, have signed St. Ed’s pitcher Stetson Allie. He was their second round pick in June.
http://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/21344966785
Needs moar dingerz.
Thats not good
I figured he wasn’t going to get a decent offer if Machado was still on the table.
I'm willing to bet
The Red Sox spend more today than the Cubs do in the entire draft.
most likely
And Tom RIcketts says he wants to model the Cubs after the Red Sox. Comical. I do hope the Cubs get Wells signed, and I’m happy they got Golden signed. I still thought their draft was meh.
by philadelphiacub on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Any draft that starts with Hayden Simpson only has meh potential
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
And
I must disagree.
Jackson, Cashner, Vitters & Colvin >>>>>>>>>>>>> Collier, Hewitt & d’Arnaud
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 16, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Say They Didn't
He agreed with Archie’s statement so I just wanted to point out the huge discrepancy in the Cubs & Phillies first round results the last few years.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 16, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Grandal all but done
$2.99 Mil, ML deal
http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/08/reds_getting_grandal_done.html
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
who else gets a major league deal?
Maybe Taillon does to break up some of the undoubtedly huge money that he is going to get. Would be surprised if the Indians do that with Pomeranz. Maybe Harvey?
I'd be surprised if Taillon isn't an MLB deal
I’m expecting something similar to Turner with a bit of a bump up in bonus money.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
any predictions on surprising mid-late round signs heading into the deadline?
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Astros get Jacoby Jones done.
Wilson
I still think Wilson is going to surprise everyone and sign for big money! Maybe I am just full of wishful thinking!
I hope
your wishful thinking becomes reality…
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Aug 16, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Taillon done
http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/sports-town/pbc-blog/104344-taillons-dad-son-is-signed
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
I sure hope Pirate fans begin to appreciate NH soon. I’m not speaking to all of them, but even those who already appreciate him understand what I mean. I’m going to have to check the local sport shows and newspaper articles this week just to see the media and fans blast them despite another impressive draft.
LSU fandom is about to have a melt down
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
yep
Yahoo Sports reporting that this deal is about to get done. The real question is: does it take a major league contract to seal the deal?
It certainly throws it in the face of everyone who said "Wow, what a throwaway pick" on draft day.
by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 16, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
if he's willing to sign, I'd roll with it
I really, really, really like Zach Lee though. He’s a total package on the mound.
He was one of my favorite...
HS arms. I liked him more than Covey, Allie, and every other guy not named Taillon or Whitson.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Completely Agree about Lee
The kid really is the complete package. Great size, very good fastball with movement, no serious command/control problems, above average breaking ball, the makings of an above average changeup and decent mechanics.
I still can’t believe he didn’t get more hype in the rankings. I’m sure his LSU football commitment had everything to do with it although if the rankings are based on talent alone then it shouldn’t have.
by UncleBuck44 on Aug 16, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Per our above conversation
Lee is not terribly polished and I’ve seen more than one discrete report that he sat 90-92 in outings this season. That is not the velo of the #3 h.s. arm in this draft or any other. The third best h.s. pitcher in a draft is going to have three average or better pitches already, not the makings. He didn’t get more buzz because his pitchability and polish are well behind many of the arms this year, as is to be expected with a two-sport star.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Lee HAS 3 average or better pitches. I said he has the makings of a third ABOVE average pitch. He’s already got the above average fastball, that may have been 90-92 in one outing(18 year olds can certainly have a “bad” game), and he has an above average curveball. Add in an average changeup.
BTW, this was a poor draft so don’t expect the 3rd best anything to match the 3rd best from normal years. But guys like Covey, Cole, Allie also only had a developing 3rd pitch. So there was no clear recipe for the 3rd best HS arm.
Actually
by all reports Lee’s best pitch is his change. I’d feel better about your assessment if you didn’t have his best pitch as his third. His FB features good movement but currently average velo for a RHP. His reports are uniformly at 89-91 or 90-92, so it’s not one “bad” game. He gets the “touches 95” report which people fixate on of course, but even the OTT MiLB report only gives him sitting 90-92. His third pitch is a slider that almost every scout I’ve read or spoken with says needs a lot of work to be above average. If you want to assert that he’s working on a third above average pitch, it’s that one, but the FB is currently avg and the slider might be below avg a good bit of the time. He’s made strides since last year (87-89 on the FB for instance) so another velo tick gets him to above avg and only helps gain separation from the change.
I’d say that Cole and Covey both had a more complete arsenal, but then Covey’s change was a well kept secret, so a lot of folks think he’s a FB/CB guy when in fact he had a FB, two CBs and a change. Cole got so many lackluster performance reports from the usual outlets that, like Gausman, all the “fans” wrote him off and forgot that he was always a case of projection. Point is, you can pimp any number of guys after Taillon and Whitson because no one stands head and shoulders above anyone. I have absolutely no opinion on that group other than that they’re all very promising and that ranking player’s who are more projection than performance is a rube’s game. Heck, I just read Callis in his chat saying that you could make a case for Lee as the second best h.s. arm after Taillon, but the same could be said of another half dozen guys imo.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Im going to say that Logan White
has called him the purest high school arm he has seen. White drafted and signed both Billingsley and Kershaw as high schoolers. He has said he feels he is ahead of Kershaw and Billingsley at the same age. Personally, I trust very much what White says because of his track record. White called his stuff a FB that sits 89-90, a curve that is above average and a change that is above average. I have never heard of the slider until now. Also, this kid is 6’4, 190, so he has room to add muscle and therefore, velocity. He was considered the 2nd best HS arm behind Taillon, with Taillon having better stuff, but Lee having better mechanics and control. Some have called it basically a wash.
To boot, Callis has said that he ranks him behind Kershaw in potential, but ahead of Billingsley.
Prospecting is always about opinions. However, I put my faith in guys like White and Callis…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Logan White
and I know is expressed feelings on Lee, but what’s he going to say about their top draft pick? he said similar things about Kershaw, Withrow and Ethan Martin. And Callis is wrong. A lot. I trust the scouts I’ve spoken to who have seen Lee over Callis.
We have the drafting team giving avg velo of 89-90, which is fringe avg for a RHP even with good movement. Curve vs. slider is a common argument with amateur players. Lee’s breaking ball is pretty tight and he throws it 78-81, so I think slider is a perfectly acceptable designation.
I think Lee will add some muslce, but I also think he’s a lot less projectable than some of his draftmates. Like the scouts say, when I see a h.s. kid with a beard…
And who considered Lee the 2nd best arm behind Taillon? Nowhere near a consensus, so that’s an odd statement to throw out like it’s fact.
And FWIW, Callis was referring to Lee being behind Kershaw and ahead of Billingsley at this stage of development, i.e. as amateurs in their draft year. That’s not exactly a stretch, as that might apply to any number of h.s. pitchers in this draft and others.
by blackoutyears on Aug 18, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
We can argue it all day
and I’m not taking anything away from Lee, but he’s not the consensus second best (or third best, or fourth) h.s. arm in this draft. I wish him good fortune. This is less about him and more about the silly idea that anyone here has the ability to predict how good some h.s. pitcher will be.
by blackoutyears on Aug 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
should be...
even if they bump it to 4M spread over 5 years isn’t a huge hit
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
yeah, I suppose it's still early
Still a couple of hours to go. The Zach Lee buzz might be causing some side effects . . .if he gets a boatload of money to sign, that pushes Covey and Whitson to get more.
I stand corrected
Covey has decided that he wants to go to the University of San Diego. Not about money.
Not about the money
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/100814479.html
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Its always about money
ALWAYS. Especially when they says its not about the money.
no true
Some kids just really want to go to school…not many, but some
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
If that was the case
The family wouldnt have dragged it out this long and made a public demand of a certain value
not saying that the case for Covey, but you can’t say its ALWAYS about the money
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Agreed
I would have to assume that almost everyone has a price. Especially with the system set up the way it is. If there were ever a hard sloting system, it may change the way people voice their preferences to go to school.
besides, if a college degree is something a kid really wants
(and that’s a very good goal), nothings stopping him from going to college when his baseball career is over
by philadelphiacub on Aug 16, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps he wants to play college baseball
And not go through the grind of a minor league season just yet?
http://bullpenbanter.com/
No
Some kids do want to go to school. But when someone says “its not about the money”, they are lying.
Or
it could be about the diabetes he was diagnosed with right before the deadline. Let this portion of the thread stand as a cautionary example of the jackassery of stating, unequivocally, that’s it all about the money.
As soon as I heard about the diabetes and his decision to go to USD I wondered if it was so that he could be close to home while learning to manage his newly revealed medical condition, and early comments by the family bear that out. It’s a tough circumstance for him and the Brewers and I wish Covey luck. I also wonder if this explains some of the velo drop and erratic performances at the end of his h.s. season. Here’s hoping he gets everything under control and gets right back on track with his career. It’s certainly good news for USD after they graduated both Blair and Solis.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Typical self absorbed athlete!
I need to play close to MY home… ME ME ME
(wish him the best of luck with his condition and hope he learns to control it and succeed with it. See you in two years hopefully).
Bullpen Banter
www.bullpenbanter.com
twitter: @alskor
I know
what’s wrong with this generation? lol
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
related question
Do you guys think that Daniel Gibson probably got a VERY interesting phone call not all that long ago?
Baseball Beginnings
reporting Covey was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
that's interesting, not totally sure how it applies here
Maybe he and his family feel it will be easier for him to learn how to manage it while on a college campus.
Exactly what he said
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/08/16/dylan-covey-exclusive
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
very mature decision out of him
Type 1 diabetes is very serious stuff.
Serious stuff certainly
But not a death sentence.
Kind of silly for him not to sign. That money is gone now forever. Appears that the Brewers tried to accommodate him in every way. He could have signed, shown up in AZ for a couple of months in October, and had 6 months to get himself healthy.
From personal experience, the disease is manageable and he could have been the same player he was before knowing the diagnosis. Signing would have given him the security and the confidence and time to work this thing out.
Some people I have talked with wonder that even though this was a big surprise and shocking news for thim and his family, that not signing was some sort of excuse to not play for the Brewers.
The family
says that the deadline process in concert with the proximity of the news left them with very little time to make a decision. Covey’s father was very complimentary of the Brewers. But hey, the rank surmise and and armchair QBing is way more fun than the reality of a family making a very touch choice in a short amount of time. It’s even more fun if you speculate that the family held this back until the last minute in order to duck Milwaukee. Classy.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the money isn't necessarily gone forever
If he’s a first rounder in 3 years, it’s not a big deal anyways.
Diabetes is obviously very manageable, but I know several diabetics who deal with some very severe complications. I don’t imagine Covey will have to deal with those (at least in the foreseeable future), but if he’s concerned about his well-being in the event that his diabetes goes unchecked, then it’s best for him to put himself in the environment that he feels is best for his particular situation. The immediate promise of millions of dollars isn’t worth risking his health over, and he’s already experienced some of the effects of uncontrolled diabetes.
College must have been an appealing option to him in the first place to choose it now, but by all accounts this was a kid who was ready to go play pro ball and the Brewers seem to think that there was no duplicity here. This was just an unfortunate case for everybody involved.
I think
he’ll be fine when he’s next ready for the draft. He’s going to a well-run program with a recent history of developing solid to excellent starting pitching prospects.
It would be nice if everyone could remember these are people, and in this case kids, who are being discussed. No reason to be disrespectful. Try to imagine Covey’s Mom reading this, and post accordingly.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Marlins
Any news floating around out there about Marlins 1st rounder Christian Yelich, 4th rounder Alvin Toles, or 16th rounder Randy LeBlanc….LeBlanc looks headed to Tulane (asking for 1 mil plus) but I can dream
marlins guys
I really, really can’t believe that Yelich hasn’t signed yet. It was a minor miracle that this guy even sniffed the first round, and he’s holding out for more money?
Apparently
Yelich has said he wants 2 mil. I don’t like it either, would’ve rather had someone else at that pick
who is Yelich committed to?
Besides the obvious answer of “it’d have to be a mental institution if he thinks somebody is giving him $2 million”
I was thinking it was U of Miami, but am not certain on that.
Yeah
It’s U of Miami and it looks like he might be heading there
Machado
Its been surprisingly quiet negotiations between the O’s and Machado is he represented by Boras too?
Thanks
I’m a Nats fan things are real quiet w/ Harper too so I figured yall must be in the same situation.
Ranaudo signs
According to SoSH, Anthony Ranaudo has signed a major league deal for 4.4 million (1.325 million bonus)
-1 and only member of the Nick Weglarz fan club!
WOW
If that is true there are 2 things I didn’t expect…that much money AND a ML deal for him. But I must say his outings in the Cape made this deal possible. Those BoSox are dominating this draft!
The Red Sox are like a drunk guy on Amazon at this point
Let’s be honest, any purchase is possible with them.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Lazare twitter
According to sources close to major league baseball, the Dodgers are offering Zach Lee about $3.8 million. Reportedly, he is close to agreeing. But, he has not agreed yet.
YES!
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Aug 16, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
1hr and 15min left
Now is the time that we should hearing a BUNCH of signings or not signings. There will still be plenty that go to the last few mins but not all of them.
yeah, let's use this to note confirmed not signings
Covey obviously. Kubitza has told Pittsburgh that he is headed to Rice.
yeah, that's an interesting one
Really liked his bat, but I can see how he might think that going to college couldn’t hurt, considering his draft stock was still pretty high despite his unfortunate situation. Where is he committed?
USD would be a huge winner if Wolters doesn't sign
I bet they figured both Wolters and Covey would be gone.
http://bullpenbanter.com/
mostly know about Pittsburgh
Jason Hursh and Chris Kirsch seem headed to college…
by BurgherKing on Aug 16, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Link?
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 16, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Dissapointing. He pitched very well post-draft.
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Aug 16, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Worth noting
Occasionally some names slip through at the deadline. The Cubs signed 39th rounder Nick Struck to an overslot deal before the deadline, but for whatever reason, it wasn’t officially announced until a few days later.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston finally fails
9th rounder Barnette going to school
http://twitter.com/aaronfitt/status/21370521491
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
.
JeffWilson_FWST Luke Jackson, the No. 45 overall pick, agrees for $1.545 million
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Rangers
JeffWilson_FWST Luke Jackson, the No. 45 overall pick, agrees for $1.545 million
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Austin Wates?
Any news on him? Thought he’d sign by now, making me anxious
re: he has signed
Can’t find anything that he has signed, just that they were still negotiating
Official
$550,000
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21372353081
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
He just announced he's headed back to VT.
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 16, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Evan Rutckyj
$500,000 bonus
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21368384477
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Good deal
I’m leery of him because he was a complete unknown until late in the season and only had a handful of successful outings. Granted, those outings were apparently really good. He has an interesting ceiling.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
very excited about it
granted, not that much to get excited about the Cubs draft, although I wasn’t as down on it as others were.
Love Wells. Kid added a couple inches and a lot of pounds this past year, so I’m fine that his stuff came late, and some seem to think he can carry some more weight on him. I was actually a bit worried it might take a bit more, with all the talk floating around about how he could’ve gone much higher had scouts had more of a chance to see him.
DBacks
I know it was rumored earlier but it is now confirmed that DBacks signed Ty Linton – still unknown bonus
cox
Any word on him? Man my Cards need him bad in the minors.
Cards
No team(except the Nats) could go from hero to zero quicker than the Cardinals if they don’t sign Cox or Wilson.
St. Louis desperately needs either one to pair with Shelby Miller. What talented prospects are they relying on to fill out the roster for cheap if they re-sign Pujols? Who are they relying on to help replace Pujols if he leaves(of course no one man can do it alone)?
by UncleBuck44 on Aug 16, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ranaudo
Nothing official, right? Just the SoSH report?
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Mason Williams
gets $1.45 Mil from Yanks
http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/21372114380
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MLB
Is doing quick pitch rather then a studio show covering the deadline. Just dumb. They could really build some extra prospect excitement by doing live updates and reports on the signings.
It'd be funny if they handled it like the draft
Have Bud Selig come out every two minutes and announce a new signing at random. Heck, I’d watch.
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Even better...
would be to have representatives from the big college baseball programs on hand to see their reactions when the top players sign deals or announce they’re going to college. THAT would be some reality TV.
Can we also have a live camera on Nick Saban as he follows these signings?
Might as well twist the dagger even further!
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh jeez.
looks like more than one of us made the mistake, at least
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 17, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
also: i'm blaming it on me completely repressing his time with the dolphins from my mind
i just want to like him after all
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
All in good fun
He’ll probably be at Texas next year…
Nick Saban
I’m sure he doesn’t really care that much if LSU’s third string QB doesn’t make it to campus.
Pretty sure Selig's curses-per-signing would be unairable
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 16, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps
But seeing him break down and cry when the bonuses for guys like Harper are announced would be outstanding.
We might even see him go on a tirade!
by Outshined_One on Aug 16, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'd like at least one Anchorman-esque prank.
“The Yankees have signed their 32nd round pick, Kenny Cosgrove, for eight milli- OKAY WHAT THE HECK YOU GUYS”
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 16, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why we need draft prospects on hand at the MLB draft to go up and shake hands with the commish
Who wouldn’t have loved to have seen Selig whisper into Nick Castellanos’ ear, “ask for a penny more than $1 million and you’re dead to me, and everybody else in this room”
That's true
There would have to be a “Selig-cam” to catch his reactions, perhaps some over/unders on swears and a bet on what signing elicits the biggest reaction from Bud.
It'd make for a fun drinking game
1 sip – Bud sighs audibly before announcing a pick
1 sip – The camera catches Bud looking dejected
2 sips – Bud groans before announcing a pick
Drink for 3 seconds – Bud wipes his face in disbelief
Finish half the bottle – Bud rolls his eyes after announcing a signing
Finish the bottle – The microphone picks up Bud swearing
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to add one more
Finish the bottle, open a new one, finish that one too – Peter Gammons calls somebody “retarded”
Ehlers turns down $610,000 from the Jays
Going to college damnit.
Would have loved to sign him, but yeah, money to use elsewhere.
Not much time left though.
um
Here’s a hint: his first name starts with, “Wreck”
Jays conference at 12:30
So guess we’ll find out then if we got anyone else.
http://twitter.com/OaklandAs/status/21372407503
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Harper is apparently "close" to a deal
I assume that means he’s currently thinking about picking up a pen.
and sippin' on iced tea
since I can’t drink yet. sigh
by BryceHarper on Aug 16, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
where the hell is Castellanos
i am getting nervous now
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 16, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions
THREE POINT FOUR FIVE
WOOOOOOOO
MY MOCK IS STILL TOPS GUYS
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 17, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Z Lee official
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21372979556
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Let's see if they pried him from football or not
If they did, they pulled off one impressive heist.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Yelich done
$1.7 mil
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21372979556
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Gah, I know the Jays have signed guys today and just haven’t announced it yet but I still feel like a kid without christmas presents.
Machado signed
http://twitter.com/JimBowdenXMFOX/status/21373305591
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
My post is above yours
at least on my computer
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Harvey signs for $2.5 Mil
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/21373348744
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Good?
We’ll see. I really hope they do a thorough review of all the arms that have failed this year and try and fix things. Color me a pessimistic Met fan, minors follower….
Machado done
Hearing 5.8M, but thats not confirmed.
MLBTR says Harper done at $6.5M.
wouldn’t be surprised if it’s for more than that.
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Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 17, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Major League deal!
Neal before Zod!
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 17, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
harper got $6.25 mil bonus,$9.9 mil in guarantees, si.com learned
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by nostocksjustbonds on Aug 17, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
As a reminder to some...
giving a prospect a “MLB deal” means they must be added to the 40 man immediately – which means they burn an option year immediately – which effectively means three years from now they will have to be in the majors.
It does NOT mean the player immediately goes onto the 25 man active roster/MLB team.
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Does that put Harper on track for 2013 or 2014?
by Kenneth Arthur on Aug 17, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Hes out of options in 2013
he uses an option for 2010, 2011, and 2012 if hes sent down at all those years. q
He damn better be ready by 2013.
Needs moar dingerz.
Actually its 2014 he's out of options.
if he’s optioned down every year.
So that means track is probably 2013.
Needs moar dingerz.
Is it different because he's 17?
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by Daniel Berlyn on Aug 17, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
I know age factors into rule 5 eligibility, but the Nats won’t have to worry about that with Harper since he’s already on the 40 man.
I don’t think options have anything to do with age, just status on 40 man.
Needs moar dingerz.
well, technically
They could stick him on the active roster for the remainder of this season, which means he won’t burn options until next year. Only a couple of weeks until the roster expansion, so it’d be only a couple of weeks of inconvenience for a team that isn’t much anyways. Not sure how the actual major leaguers would react though, so that’s probably a no go.
Also, the team could apply for a special exemption, which I imagine would be granted.
Good point
They could do that.
I wonder if we’ll see some of that in the future, like old time bonus babies.
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They could send him down now and call him up on September 1st
It won’t burn an option (less than 20 days in the minors) and calling him up in September when rosters expand won’t start the service time.
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by thejd44 on Aug 17, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
McGuire gets $2 Mil
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/21373348744
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Hmm
Don’t see anything about McGuire in that tweet, just the Met’s Matt Harvey signing.
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by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 17, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
my bad
http://twitter.com/ysportsncaabb/status/21373549190
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Kyle Parker signs
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21373647404
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Vettleson Flew down today
Damn the Rays for stealing Local talent
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 17, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
And theres nothing on his Facebook
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Him and Sale flew down
no news on either
by Navi's_Navy on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Cox signs
http://twitter.com/ysportsncaabb/status/21373761439
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Wilson didn't
http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/21373912592
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Sealed
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by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 17, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
not sure what planet he's worth mid-first round money on
he’s signed though. guess that’s more important than anything.
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Sox not only got Ranaudo
as well as Coyle, Ceccheti and Workman today… they also got Chris Hernandez out of Miami done, who was supposedly far apart and had decided to go back to school late this evening. Pretty ridiculous what they accomplished.
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Yup. Sorry... been reading a lot of Serie A stuff today and the soccer seeps in!
Been reading too many Italian names, I guess
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Disappointing, but not surprising.
Not sure he would be close to worth what he was asking anyway.
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That depends on how you look at it
I’d rather spend $3MM on Wilson than someone like Wagner Mateo.
AA strikes again
With the big signings under wraps.
Karston Whitson didn't sign
http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/21373984000
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
What in the hell happened there?
I don’t suppose he, too, went in for a physical and was diagnosed with a life-changing ailment?
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Sale's the only unconfirmed 1st rounder
Really, really bizarre. He wasn’t considered a tough sign, IIRC.
by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions
Padres do get John Barbato
http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/21374190052
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Didn't get A.J. Vanegas though
I though they could sign both if Whitson didn’t sign
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
finally beat me to one
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Damn!
I liked him the best.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 17, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It should go without saying, but...
Thanks to everyone for posting news as you get it! It’s really difficult trying to manage 100 twitter feeds, tabs, and other sites. Having it all centralized here is most welcome.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Osich going back to school
http://twitter.com/ysportsncaabb/status/21376960588
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
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by DetroitTigersGeek on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
Sale and Vettleson sign
http://twitter.com/conorglassey/status/21374511553
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
This means it time to check Facebook
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Sale only signed for some 60K more than Skole?
Wow that’s annoying
by MonkeyEpoxy on Aug 17, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Choose your side now
Skole or Sale…who has the better career…
by UncleBuck44 on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Simpson ;)
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by WayneCampbell08 on Aug 17, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Deck McGuire Signs
jimcallisBA
#BlueJays sign 1st-rder Deck McGuire for $2 million. #mlbdraft
I have to wonder...
Did some of these guys look at Cole and Purke, and then think to themselves, “I could totally do that!”?
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It makes you wonder...
how they are doing academically. I wouldn’t turn down 500,000 or more with the hard slotting system coming.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Anything on JaCoby Jones?
I’m guessing no news is bad news for the Astros
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
You pronounce his name the same as Ellsbury's
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we just got the flood of 1st and 1s guys announced
There’ll probably announcement on late round signings in the next hour or so.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much...
the reporters are all running around trying to be the first to report the big names so it happens pretty quickly. Usually in the first half hour.
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Plus
We’ve got a bit of a lull with a lot of the big names currently doing interviews and writing up pieces on the big names who signed.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Er...
A lot of the big name writers and analysts doing those things on big name players who signed, that is.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't sign :(
http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/21375871819
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
Zach Cox signed
via http://www.futureredbirds.net/...
Austin Wilson didn’t…biiiiig sadface…
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Wilson
#Cardinals didn’t sign wilson, obviously. did not exchange numbers with him. Never got that far.#stlcards
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Disappointing. Probably means the Cardinals ONLY drafted him as insurance in case Cox never came down off his 6 mil asking price. They were never serious about signing both.
by UncleBuck44 on Aug 17, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
for what it's worth
Wilson was probably never very serious about signing with them either.
Everyone has their price
Perhaps the 3.2 million they gave Cox would have been enough. We’ll never know. I hope he tears it up at Stanford. Nothing but respect for the kid.
by UncleBuck44 on Aug 17, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Andy Seiler's breaking down team by team signing bonus amounts on Twitter
Kind of interesting that the Yankees, despite spending $6.5m in signing bonuses, will likely spend the least of anyone in the AL East.
Rizzo says Harper will play in GCL
for remainder of the year and then do Instructional league
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
"Instructional League"?
I’m hearing that they’re going to send him to the AFL. If they’re signing him to an MLB deal, they’ve got a lot of marbles in the as fast as possible path.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Rizzo was just on Baseball Tonight
and he said Instructional League, at least immediately following GCL
Usually I agree but Arcia could probably hit a bounced pitch out of the park right now. -KBR
What was also an interesting move was that they promoted Burgess to AA today...
…probably so that they would have two remaining below AA slots for the AFL. One has got to be Norris. The other? Could still be Harper. Don’t know what the time line is like. They’re saying introduce Harper to media next homestand, which would be next week. There’s still a lot of timeline details to be related, especially since they’ve offered an MLB deal which commits them to a very aggressive path.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park. In Rizzo and Ramos we trust.
Harper
mentioned the AFL possibility in his BA interview.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Rizzo says Harper will play in GCL for remainder of the year and then coach Instructional league
/fixed
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You should try being in the UK, is gone 6am now
Barely holding on even as a night worker.
Not really
Jays signed Adaric Kelly for 250k, 28th? rounder so hefty money.
Interesting development on Barret Loux
Press Release from DBacks
“We have reached an agreement regarding Barret Loux’s status that is mutually beneficial to the parties. Today Commissioner Selig has announced that Loux will become a free agent on September 1. As such, he will be free to sign with any Major League Club at that time. In addition, the Arizona Diamondbacks will receive a Supplemental Selection in the 2011 First-Year Player Draft. The agreement also provides an opportunity for the Commissioner’s Office and the Players Association globally to the address the issues that can arise from questions concerning a drafted player’s health. Given the private nature of the underlying disagreement here, neither party will be making any further public comments about this situation.”
Is there precedent on this?
Would he have to sign a ML contract? Anyone have a clue what he could actually command?
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Aug 17, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If I've read everything about his failed physical correctly
It is fraying in the labrum and a condition he pitched through during his junior season. Since there isn’t any compensation attached to signing him, I’d definitely pursue it. It’s almost a Tanner Scheppers situation.
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frayed labrum... kind of a ticking time bomb, no?
I’d still pursue him, though.
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Most likely
And this probably means he’ll move as a reliever. Still, I liked his stuff a lot in the couple Texas A&M games I watched and would definitely gamble on him.
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i saw him live
and came away loving him. great fastball and flashed a couple plus offspeed pitches. really a bummer that he’s hurt/may get hurt.
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Someone brought up an interesting possibility in BA's post-draft chat with Callis
With Loux a free agent, the Diamondbacks could still conceivably sign him.
I can’t imagine what sort of repercussions that would have, but that would be utterly hilarious.
by Outshined_One on Aug 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
James Paxton
Doesn’t look like he signed, but then the deadline doesn’t apply to him so that make sense I suppose. Just thought he might want to actually pitch this year…
Similar to Crow and Scheppers last year
Not a big deal and there probably hasn’t been much discussion yet. Now that the deadline has passed, there will be more action on that front.
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I'd hope so
This guy is absolutely killing himself by waiting. He’s barely pitched since before last year’s draft, and even in those appearances, he’s looked rusty (understandable) and his stuff has not been of the same caliber (not good). At this point, it doesn’t make much sense for the Mariners to give him more than his slot money.
I have no idea
what he thinks he’s gained from a meager five indy league starts and a holdout. He’s basically nullified his age advantage by ensuring that he’ll be the equivalent of a senior sign when he starts his pro development track. I blame the NCAA’s lunacy for part of the problem, but he and Boras took lemons and made a shit sandwich. I completely agree, Kupe: if I’m the Mariners I’m holding the line big time.
by blackoutyears on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
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