Trade Reactions, Part Five
Trade Reaction, Part Five
The Cardinals, Padres, and Indians get down to business with a three-way, with Ryan Ludwick ending up in San Diego, Jake Westbrook and prospect Nick Greenwood shifting over to St. Louis, and prospect Corey Kluber ending up in Cleveland. Here you have two potential playoff teams trying to address their weaknesses. The Cardinals bolster their rotation with Westbrook, while slotting Jon Jay and/or Randy Winn in the lineup to replace Ludwick, whose bat should help out the Padres hitting attack. This costs the Padres two pitching prospects. Kluber is having a very nice year in Double-A and could help out in Cleveland as a fourth starter or long reliever sometime next year. Greenwood is more marginal, a strike-thrower with average stuff and so-so numbers in the Midwest League. Overall, I think the trade makes sense for all three clubs, assuming that the Cardinals are right that they can replace Ludwick's bat with the players on hand.
The Dodgers picked up Ted Lilly and Ryan Theroit from the Cubs for Blake DeWitt, Brett Wallach, and Kyle Smit. This is a short-term contention move but I don't mind it from either perspective. I'm not a huge DeWitt fan at this point, and while Theroit is just a stopgap, I'm not sure that DeWitt will ever be appreciably better. Wallach is quite interesting but need to sharpen up his command, while Smit could be a good middle reliever at some point. Swapping them for veteran Lilly helps the Dodgers in the short run and (hopefully) the Cubs in the long run. All in all, it makes sense for both teams.
The Giants traded Joe Martinez and John Bowker to the Pirates for Javier Lopez. Lopez is a decent short guy and worth more to the Giants than the Pirates at this point. Both Martinez and Bowker may be Quadruple-A players, but both are more likely to help the Pirates next year than Lopez would have been, at least as complementary players. I like this for the Pirates.
The Dodgers traded James McDonald and Andrew Lambo to the Pirates for Octavio Dotel. The veteran has 21 saves this year and is a nice reinforcement for the pen down the stretch, but I like this trade for the Pirates, too. McDonald got lost in the shuffle in LA and in a lower-pressure Pittsburgh environment he could thrive. Lambo needs a fresh start after wearing out his welcome with the Dodgers by his immature behavior but is still only 21. Swapping an ancient reliever for these two is a great move for the Pirates, even if it doesn't work this is a positive talent exchange for them.
The Marlins traded Rick Vandenhurk to the Orioles for Will Ohman. The lefty is a competent middle reliever but at age 33 he isn't going to get better than he already is. Vandenhurk has much better stuff, but he still isn't a very good pitcher and looks to me like the live-arm-but-won't-develop type. Still, exchanging an old bullpen southpaw for a much younger arm is a shot worth taking for Baltimore.
More to come.
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I'm hoping it's more of a Jon Jay/Allen Craig platoon than a situation involving Randy Winn
Once Craig is eligible to be recalled from AAA, that is…
Can’t say I enjoy that trade much as a Cardinals fan. Apparently making a salary-neutral deal was important to the front office so that means I’d expect them to dip their hands into the waiver market considering they were willing to add payroll for Oswalt and save some money on not paying Brad Penny’s incentives.
bad trade
i guess i can understand their desire to save money. even so, they should have gotten a better prospect from the padres. does not really matter if jay/craig/winn can replace ludwick’s numbers. the cards did not get good value for ludwick, who will be under padres control next year as well.
Vandenhurk looks like a Matt Riley...
..to me.
It seems like he’s completely effective at AAA, but lacks refined command in the majors. To be completely like a Matt Riley type, he needs to have a live mid-90s arm and plus slider, which allows him to get AAA batters to swing at stuff, but in the majors, he’s a max effort guy who never quite “gets it” in terms of reading batters, throwing strikes, and pitching to contact.
DeWitt is appreciably better right now
He’s 5 years younger and is a full win better so far this year.
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by thejd44 on Aug 2, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions
The Ludwick Trade was Awful
All Cleveland wanted for Westbrook was Corey Kluber. The Cardinals didn’t need to include Ryan Ludwick and San Diego.
They should have kept Ludwick til the end of the year for his offensive support then dealt him for whatever was available in the winter.
I shouldn’t be too harsh, though. There’s probably much more to the story than Mozeliak and company will tell us.
I'd say both the Dodgers trades are questionable
The Dotel trade is just plain bad. Nice move for the Pirates though.
The Dodgers deals were terrible.
Lily is continuing to go down hill (Strikeouts lower, fastball velocity down to 86.1mph on average, swinging strike rate down to 7.6%, FIP and xFIP in the mid 4’s). DeWitt is young, cheap (which is something the Dodgers could USE), and team controlled for a while.
And I don’t even know what they were thinking with Octavio Dotel. 21 saves but a whopping 0.3 WAR so far. Getting him isn’t a huge deal, but McDonald AND Lambo?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 2, 2010 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions

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