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Texas League Player Reports: The Cliff Lee Edition

You may notice a pattern in this trio of reports.

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Blake Beavan, RHP, Frisco Roughriders

 

Date of Game Scouted: June 27, 2010

 

2007 first round draft pick among league leaders in most Texas League pitching statistics, traded to Seattle Mariners in Cliff Lee trade. Very big frame with broad shoulders and barrel chest, good upper body strength. Thick lower body, looks a little doughy in the thighs. Innings-eater build, but some concern that body could go south on him very quickly. Repeatable windup, holds arms out wide from body during slow rotation back, brings them in late. Small leg kick in his delivery into relatively short stride, neither as prominent as they used to be, suspect this is due to loss of flexibility from physical maturation. Fastball velocity sat 88-91 MPH, touching 92 MPH several times early in this outing. Arm speed very average, would be surprised to see him add more velocity as a SP. Does pace himself well, so might not be a stretch to see him add a bit more out of the pen. Despite average velocity, fastball is an impressive offering with heavy life down in the zone. Lots of bad contact on the fastball, thuds instead of cracks off the bat, sounds like batters are swinging at a medicine ball. Fastball gets lots of grounders. Fastball command is good but not outstanding, works the zone well but sometimes catches too much of the plate. Secondary pitches are changeup, slider, curveball. Changeup is of the straight variety, thrown 78-81 MPH. Okay deception on changeup and can get strikes with it, but leaves it up in the zone far too often. Changeup has a chance to be an average offering in the future. Slider generally unimpressive, worked between 80-83 MPH, has some lateral movement but not much in the way of downward movement. Tried to feel for the slider, never seemed to quite get it down, maybe it looks better on other days. Curveball thrown at 78-79 MPH with solid break, the better of his two breaking balls. Threw more curves than sliders, and looked more comfortable with the curve. Shows a solid feel for the pitch, willing and able to throw it for strikes. Pitched backwards a lot, as he showed off-speed for strikes to get ahead in counts, and then pounded away with fastballs to induce contact. Once he got into deep counts, he very rarely looked to his secondaries. Obviously trusts his fastball a lot, but extreme risk-averse pitching style is probably not going to hold up at higher levels, will need to mix his pitches better. Not quite the control artist that you might expect from the numbers, just fortunate enough to have a fastball that few batters at this level have the strength or bat speed to consistently beat. If all goes well, should have plus fastball with two average secondaries in changeup and curveball, possible No. 4 starter with good durability. If things don't work out, could have a solid career as a bullpen arm.

 

 

 

Josh Lueke, RHP, Frisco Roughriders

 

2007 16th round draft pick, traded to Seattle Mariners in Cliff Lee trade. Power pitcher build, tall and very burly. Very broad shoulders, thick core. Max effort delivery, throws as hard as he can on every pitch. Fastball is 95-97 MPH, true plus-plus velocity from right side. Fastball lacks movement, but hard for batters at this level to consistently take advantage of that. Shows good command of fastball, throws it for strikes, can catch the edges of the zone. Uses a slider as his secondary pitch at 81-84 MPH, inconsistent, more miss than hit. Has the tendency to hang his slider, can't get good break on it without throwing it into the dirt. Needs to get himself out of innings quickly before hitters pick up on the timing of his fastball, capable of getting hit harder than you'd expect. Basically a one and a half pitch guy at present, but fastball is a quality major league offering. If he can improve his slider, potential late inning reliever in the majors. Will get multiple major league chances in any case, as mid-90s strike throwers don't grow on trees.

 

 


Matt Lawson, 2B, Frisco Roughriders

 

2007 14th round draft pick, traded to Seattle Mariners in Cliff Lee trade. Thin and wiry lower body, deceptively strong legs that contribute to above-average speed. Tools are mediocre other than speed, but gets the most out of what he has. Has some upper body strength, good upper body definition with strong arms. Long swing, will pick up his share of strikeouts. Plate discipline is better than the numbers look, has a passable eye at the plate, might not be aggressive enough early in the count. Has more power than you'd think, gets a bit of loft in his swing. Possesses decent aptitude for hitting, not going to wow anybody but the type who should play over his tools. Did not get enough of a read on his defense to say much for the moment, but looks to be an adequate second baseman. Not enough tools or bat to profile as more than a major league fringe player, but needs to move up to AAA to see if he'll keep the average up against better pitching. Upside would be major league utility player with good speed and a little pop.

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Good write up

Hoping beaven can become maybe better than a number 4 starter considering we have enough of them already.

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by Marinerfanjake on Jul 9, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I think John is a bit higher on Lueke and Lawson than most

…which, if right, would make this an absolute steal of a trade for the Ms. (I think Lee for Smoak straight up is a pretty good haul.)

Kind of surprised John didn’t mention Lueke’s makeup issues.

by AndrewTorrez on Jul 10, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

my opinion

Very nice blend of talent for a pitcher that the Mariners don’t have under contract for next year. Lawson is kind of an under-the-radar guy (well, at least he was), but he was one of the few players of an org player-laden Frisco lineup that stood out to me. Lueke is obviously a red flag with his legal issues, but that is a premium arm. So the M’s got a middle of the lineup bat, a solid back of the rotation arm with a bit more upside than that, a late inning guy, and a potential utility guy. That is an awesome package, and Mariners fans should be very pleased with the front office on this one.

by mrkupe on Jul 10, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think the legal issues should be a concern anymore.

It’s over with. He’s paid his debt to society for his crimes.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 11, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

Still doesn’t mean he’s a great guy, and that’s what would be the concern there. Personally I’m looking at it from the talent standpoint, and from that perspective, he’s a good find.

Seattle must have really had that Frisco team scouted well though, because they took a healthy chunk of the major league caliber talent that was on that roster. Beltre wasn’t with the team when I saw them, but as far as the lineup I thought that only Marcus Lemon and Lawson had chances of doing anything significant for a major league team in the future. Lueke was the best arm in the pen, although I’d also give a thumbs up to Cody Eppley (now promoted to AAA), a tough sidearmer who could get some ROOGY looks in the majors.

by mrkupe on Jul 11, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Adair, Seattle's pitching coach

was a pitching coach in the TX minor league system pre-2009, very familiar with Beavan, and probably the reason he was targeted. Lueke has serious character issues and I’m sure TX was glad to be rid of him. Lawson is org fodder.

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by t ball on Jul 11, 2010 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

my assumption is that they think they can rework Beavan's approach a bit

I’ve heard people rave about his slider before, but I think I saw one pretty good one out of his hand and that was it. Beavan certainly didn’t pitch like a guy who thought he had a plus slider, and the strikeout rate obviously reflects that. Doesn’t pass the statistical sniff test for me, which is to say that if the numbers don’t match the reports, more often than not there is a very good reason for that.

That being said, while his secondaries aren’t great, there’s no reason why he should be striking out less than 6 every 9 innings, and I think he can probably bump that up a fair bit with some work.

by mrkupe on Jul 11, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Different View

Look, I think that Smoak is a good prospect, and that Beavan has some potential. Maybe Lueke can amount to something if he can move past his troubled past, maybe. And maybe Lawson has a bit of Kevin Frandsen in him, who knows. But come on, Cliff Lee is an ace at the major league level, not a possible this or that. (Anyone else notice him coolly pluck out that Johnny Damon pop-up in last year’s Series? Still one of my favorite catches.) Anyway, he may or may not push the Rangers to the next level (if they don’t have to face the mighty Orioles again), but this is a good trade for the Rangers too (for both teams, really). The Rangers get a much better chance to take the next step to the playoffs, and they have Davis ready to step in and replace Smoak as, er, a replacement level 1B, and they can afford the pitching depth. Yeah, yeah, I know – Smoak will probably turn into something between Mark Grace and Mark Teixeira eventually (anybody else notice that those comps are two COMPLETELY different types of players – lefty hitter for average vs. switch power hitter?). And the rest of the guys are simply possible role-players at this point at the major league level. How is acquiring Cliff Lee for a half season, plus draft picks, not worth that? If Smoak had gotten off to a huge start, I doubt the Rangers would have made this trade, since they’d need him now. And maybe he’ll turn into a star and they’ll regret it, but I think there’s too much of an atmosphere on this site that they got taken to the cleaners here. I’m more worried about them giving up Main for Molina than any of these guys for Lee, as Molina is only a marginal upgrade, while Lee matches up with the best. You pay that price, play out the season, and hope for the best. I think it’s a much-needed shot in the arm to a franchise whose fan base is disillusioned with Tom Hicks’ shady nonsense. My 2 cents.

by morellyn on Jul 12, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think I said that

I think I said that I thought the Mariners made out very well for a guy that wasn’t going to be under contract to them six months from now anyways. They got multiple high floor players and some upside too, which basically NEVER happens these days for a rental type.

If the Rangers wanted a big time arm though, obviously Lee was the first place to look. The prospects they gave up weren’t the big guns of the organization, but they were nonetheless valuable pieces. I think Ted Lilly could have been landed for a package centered around Beavan and Lueke, for example.

Oddly enough, I’m much less troubled by the Main trade. Nobody in a position to know seems to have a problem with trading Main so much as they think it wasn’t worth trading anything for Molina.

by mrkupe on Jul 13, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

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