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Prospect smackdown idea:

Martin Perez v. Zach Britton

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 15, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Ack...

…I just checked, and you just did one with Perez and Friedrich. My apologies.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Collins/Pastornicky

I am curious to see how you would grade Collins and Pastornicky as of mid-season 2010. Thanks.

by Mike Green on Jul 16, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

How about Montero vs Smoak?

Although Smoak appears ahead as of now, it would be interesting to see what the Mariners thought process might have been.

by unspider on Jul 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Belt vs. Freedie Freeman/Yonder Alonso

Would love to see this considering how well Belt has performed thus far.

by smay24 on Jul 16, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Belt is drastically underrated.

by King Billy Royal on Jul 16, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was coming here to suggest Freeman vs morrison

So why not just add morrison to the fray and make it a 1b prospect battle royale of sorts.

I know there was a Freeman vs Morrison discussion question before but it was A. 2008 B. almost even in the poll, and C. we didn’t get john’s thoughts on the subject.

by i r noobie on Jul 16, 2010 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

I’m really trying to figure out what kind of prospect Belt is.

He’s obviously not the same player he was in college, and his numbers this year are getting so crazy that you just can’t ignore them.

I mean, who the hell puts up a .384/.487/.661 line with 30 doubles, 5 triples and 15 homers in 307 at-bats along with a 60/57 BB/K ratio. The BABIP is obviously a little high, but this is a guy that I’m seriously warming up to.

Somebody needs to write up a good, detailed scouting report on this guy.

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by Satchel Price on Jul 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that Belt has swiped 18/26 SB this year…..

by smay24 on Jul 16, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a buddy who works in SF's front office

I will see if he can give me some insight. He is one of my few legit contacts so hopefully it pans out.

by King Billy Royal on Jul 16, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took me awhile to remember where I saw it

I knew that I just read something on Belt in the last day or two. It’s from KLaw’s chat yesterday:

Corey (Stockton CA)

Could you please give a report and ETA for Brandon Belt?
Klaw (1:49 PM)

Haven’t seen the new swing yet, but talked to a scout last week who had – got him a lot more upright and stable and it’s (obviously) made a huge difference. Could be just a year away, maybe a year and a half. Potential impact bat … or excellent trade bait this month.

http://bullpenbanter.com

by gatling on Jul 16, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't see how you can compare Belt...

…to guys who’ve been playing the minors for two more years. I’d think Belt/Jonathan Singleton would be a better match.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 16, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you not when this is his first year in the minors and he has been putting up stats that are off of the charts?

by smay24 on Jul 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand what you mean

I think it is obvious that Singleton is the better comparison.

Both were later round picks from 2009 who have put up huge numbers in the low minors. How does it make more sense to compare Belt to players from the 2008 and 2007 class in the high minors?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jul 16, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comparison

Brandon Belt: A & AA: .386 2B:29 3B:5 HR: 15 RBI’s:71 BB/K: 61/57 OPS: 1.14 SB:18
Freddie Freeman A & AA in 2009: .282 2B:27 3B:0 HR: 8 RBI’s: 58 BB/SO:37/60 OPS:.771 SB:1
Yonder Alonso A & AA in 2009: .292 2B: 24 3B: 0 HR: 9 RBI: 52 BB/K: 41/46 OPS: .838 SB: 1

Freeman had 2 years experience but younger before 2009 and Yonder Alonso had 1 year experience before.

by smay24 on Jul 16, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prospect Tournament

I think that it would be pretty fun to take the top 16 or 32 players of a position and have a Prospect Smack own Tournament Edition. There will obviously be some great debate/interesting takes on all of the different players.

by smay24 on Jul 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Great concept

I don’t know how well it would work in practice but if you take the top 25+honorable mentions and throw them into some smackdown tournament it could be really interesting. Main problem would be picking actual “winners” in a lot of the matchups especially when their respective strengths are on different areas. Also would probably have to split hitting/pitching.

by i r noobie on Jul 16, 2010 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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