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Brandon Beachy and Brett DeVall going for the Braves
Beachy is a 23 year old without much pro experience (~155 innings) who’s tearing it up in AA so far. 2.23 FIP and 11 k/9. DeVall’s been pretty solid, if not too hittable, so far.
that'll help his already insane k/9
devall on the other hand with a very unimpressive line. 5 ip, 11(!) hits.
by blindsided789 on Jul 15, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow, signed as a non-drafted free agent two years ago
and dominating Double A. That’s pretty amazing!
by asyouwish33 on Jul 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody have a scouting report?
potential upside?
I asked this same question at the great Talking Chop. Elaborated from a Baseball America article:
Beachy was a non drafted free agent out of a small, NAIA college in Indiana. He played both ways there but said pitching came easier to him even though he was terrible as a pitcher in his final season there. Braves scout Gene Kerns saw him pitch a game in the Valley League one summer after the draft. Kerns asked the coach to pitch beachy the next day and when he saw him again he immediately called Roy Clark and told him they had to sign the guy.
Beachy has three above average pitches: a fastball that sits 92-93 but can get up as high as 96, a slider and curve. He says he developed the curve as more of a joke than anything but it actually developed into a weapon and I would guess that is what has gotten him looked at as a starter this year.
Alone in the world of the little CatDog...
by bwellnjonesco on Jul 16, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love this story way more… if he wasn’t property of the Braves.
No seriously though, sounds like a real find for Atlanta. Even if the upside isn’t super fantastic, he’s clearly blowing away Double-A hitters right now, and I’d be shocked if he could put up those kind of numbers at that level and not at least be an effective reliever in the majors.
Holy cow
I just looked up his numbers. Those are really, really good. If he has a scouting report that says it’s not due to smoke and mirrors, then we ought to be seriously tracking this guy.
Biggest red flag to the basic numbers is that his 2009 didn’t hint at anywhere this dominance. But the 2010 numbers are pretty rare at AA (I’m talking mostly of K, BB, H, HRA)..
I like the fact that he's getting better, too.
April/May: 3.07 FIP, 34/13 K/BB in 29.7 innings
June/July: 1.54 FIP, 59/7 K/BB in 40.6 innings
I mean, whoa..
I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy
by Satchel Price on Jul 17, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Numbers like that are
are usually at A or maybe A+, and it seems like the guys who post them are overmatching weaker hitters with good fastballs combined with outstanding breaking balls…which AA hitters then manage to solve. I did a CART assessment of various stats a couple years ago and found that K/H+BB was one of the numbers most likely to be repeated in consecutive years (regardless of levels).
Compared to Beachy:
Jason Motte had numbers like that at AAA in 2008.
In 2007, FDLS and Rohrbough both had them at lower levels.
In 2006, Meloan, Gallardo, and Slowey did it across levels that included AA. Hellickson and Inman and Kershaw did it at lower levels.
These are just guys that were roughly considered prospects, so there may be others. It does give a snapshot, however, of guys having that level of dominance over ~ 50 IP or greater. I didn’t put together stats in 2009.
I mean, you don't put up those kind of numbers by accident
So I think that Beachy is definitely pitching his way into some discussions.
Guys that can put up those kind of numbers in Double-A are often good enough to be somewhat useful in the majors. I think that the Braves might have found a diamond in the rough, in the sense that they found a useful player where none were thought to exist.
I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy
by Satchel Price on Jul 17, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently he has decent stuff too:
Thirteen strikeouts in five innings is always going to catch one’s attention, and some further digging shows this guy is a real sleeper. Signed as an undrafted free agent, Beachy was primarily a slugging infielder at tiny Indiana Wesleyan, but he also relieved at times, and the Braves remembered what they saw from him off the mound and decided to give him a shot. Sitting in the low 90s, and touching 95-96 at times, the big righty also has a decent curveball and changeup, and in five starts for the M-Braves, he’s whiffed 44 in 30 innings while giving up just 16 hits.
-Goldstein
Best case is No. 2 SP. More realistic is No. 3 SP. Floor would be not making bigs. @jesseburkhart: Brandon Beachy’s ceiling and floor?
-Callis: Twitter
Yes, not just because of 1 game. Up to 96 w/3 pitches RT @Zeus12888: @keithlaw Brandon Beachy…is it safe to call him a legit prospect now?
-Law: Twitter
Wow, that's some impressive stuff to see, too
Pretty surprising that this guy fell through the cracks, if he’s truly sitting in the mid-90’s with some fairly developed offspeed stuff.
I like baseball.
I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy
by Satchel Price on Jul 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Now
I will personally kick anybody in the face who rec’s this thread after it has already been rec’ed three times! Innanity annoys me.
That old discussion!
I can at least see, imagine, or understand some arguments leading people to want to put these in the recommended section of the site. It is a big draw. But, keep it to three, and one person should be considerate enough to un-rec the next day. I always unrec, but then some other jackass decides to re-rec it after the next days games have already started just so they can post their 15th response to some silly debate.
In the head. Remember that
But, honestly. Is there a rationale behind the 4th rec? Is there any piece of shriveled dying logical rigor in the mind of the 4th rec’er? I find the whole thing stunningly absurd.
Shit happens?
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 15, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I luv
‘internet tough guy’ —but I come here everyday, mostly for these threads and like I said I unrec the next day, deal wit it hombre.
I luv
People who can’t grasp mock threats and jestingly made insults, and who take it as internet tough guy. Oh well.
If you want to keep doing something illlogical, with minor repercussions (i.e., some people won’t unrec if there are 4 rec’ers because they see it as futile. It takes two to remove it at that point, so they don’t even bother), thats fine.
I rec'd it just because I want to see if you can track me down and actually kick me in the head.
by King Billy Royal on Jul 15, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Damnit!
This wasn’t anticipated. My brazen internet tough guy act failed! Oh noes!
And...
As for tracking you down….I have the time, but lack the resources and energy!
As for kicking you in the head….hmm. If you aren’t obscenely tall, and are kind enough to let me….sure!
Haha
Sounds like a deal. Since you were so polite I have unrec’d the thread!!!!!
by King Billy Royal on Jul 15, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Matzek
pitches tonight. And Henderson Alvarez.
That will be exciting
Let’s see the season long streak continue, and push him up to the bigs in september. I would love to see the Royals fans get something to smile about. Maybe he can hit a few solo shots and Greinke can win a game!
And don't forget
Ackley is making his Tacoma debut tonight at 10:05.
Wow...
That Omaha lineup would beat the Royals!
Surprising amount of truth to that statement
Ankiel, Gordon, Ka’ahue, Moustakas.
Not MiLB but...
all world stud Bengie Molina is making Giants fans ask who this Posey kid is, helping Texas unload on Wakefield in part of a 6 run first with a two run blast. :)
It would be nice to see some of these trades work for both teams.
I think the Escobar/Gonzalez trade will meet both teams’ goals for example.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
I agree
As a Braves fan, I’m not all that unhappy with the move. I’ll be excited to see if Gonzalez can come close to his first half. If he does, it is a very good move, though I don’t have my hopes up!
As a Nats fan...
I’m not all that unhappy with the move. Helps the Braves win now when we’re not going to compete with them while moving Escobar from the division should Escobar go nuts.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
You're only saying that....
because you haven’t seen Tim Collins mow your Nats down in the 8th yet…. :)
He put up most of his numbers in April
I really hope he does well, but I’m not sure how well he’s going to fare in Turner Field. I wasn’t home to watch the game tonight, but it looks like he had a solid game.
Is Michael Main
Hitting .240 with 4 homeruns at 63 years old? I think not. Feelin pretty silly, I’d imagine. Might want to take the day off to recuperate from that vicious rebuttal.
I just realized
That you may have been being facetious in a different way than I read it as being, and so my reply might have come off as mildly dickish instead of entirely tongue-in-cheek!
In Tennessee
They got off to a good start. Trayvon Robinson hit his 8th homerun of the year to lead off the game, and Brett Jackson followed with a double in the bottom half to knock in fan favorite Tony Campana (who lead off the bottom half with as a triple).
Do you know anything about Brett Devall?
Currently listening to Devall vs. Clegg in a game between low-A Braves and Nats affiliates. Rome Braves are up 4-1 against the Suns. Joe Leonard hit a 3R-HR in his first at bat after a promotion from the Appy League. All 4 runs scored after two-out. Sounds like the HR was a wall-scraper.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Well
The only scouting reports I have are from early in the year, and they didn’t bode all that well. However, I’m curious to see if anything has switched for him (i.e., if his fastball is getting back to around 90+ again), or if his recent improvements (though not all that drastic) are just a matter of acclimation.
Tyler Matzek
6IP 6H 2ER 3BB 5K
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
GO-FO 9-4
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
Nick Franklin
Hits a homerun in first at-bat
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
Franklin
Maybe it’s just me but with all the mid-season lists coming out, he seems kind of underrated. There has only been one other 19 or younger year old since 2000 that has a higher isolated power and that is Wlad Balentien. And Franklin has much better BB/K numbers than Wlad. Matter of fact his hitting numbers look pretty similar to Jay Bruce and the fact that Franklin is doing this from a middle infield position is that much more impressive.
I wonder if there was any concern with the rough June/July he’s had (i.e. the idea that pitchers may have figured him out a bit). Otherwise agree though, a power surge from a 19-year old plus fielding shortstop in the MWL is a really, really big deal.
by PhillyFriar on Jul 15, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He Has better power form one side
but better contact skills on the other
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 15, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he really a plus fielder?
I was under the impression he was. Maybe not a gold glove guy, but slick fielder who wouldn’t have to move off the position. Then, on this site, I kept seeing people commenting on a future move to 2B (I want to say in the Mariners 2013 post), and I was pretty perplexed. BB% is a little low, but if the fielding and the power are there (I think they both are, to some degree) then I really like him. I had him as an H.M. on my top 100 list last year, and if I were to make a list now, he’d probably be an H.M. on my top 50. Alot depends on the rest of the year.
There have been varying reports
from Average to Plus. I think the Mariners see him as a plus fielder, I haven’t seen too much video on him but from what i have seen he is above average to me. I haven’t paid alot of attention to his errors this season so i don’t know what the majority of them are.
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 16, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Franklin was pulled from the gamer after one at-bat
Probably hurt himself
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 15, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That sucks. Let us know if you hear anything.
by PhillyFriar on Jul 15, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
really ???
lol
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 15, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
John Lamb
6 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 1 bb, 8 k
on a fairly strict pitch count, didn’t get a number. want to keep his # of pitches down while allowing him to pitch every five days the rest of the season.
and it really should be in AA…no ER in last 27 innings. ERA is 1.28 in Carolina League w/ 77/15 K/BB.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
He really needs to get promoted
High A is way too easy for him. Him being 19 in AA would be sweet and i don’t think it would affect his development, He is on a Greinke type route hopefully without the mental break.
Lamb Monty Crow Dwyer Osuna.
Man that would be a good rotation plus 4 lefties. Shot there wouldn’t be room for Dan Duffy so looks like he would have to stay in high A.
Osuna could go to Omaha
Picollo implied it was about to happen, but that was before injury.
Lamb did just turn 20 (FWIW), but yeah it’s not rushing here. not when the guy is clearly outclassing the league he’s in.
R.I.P. cwhitman412, Frederick0220, & Mets2k9
Brandon Belt
Dude has been awesome since the promotion. 2/2 3B, HR, BB so far tonight. He’s hit 5 bombs in 10 games since getting promoted to AA.
final line
3-4, 3B, HR, BB, SO; looking good
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jul 15, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Shelby Miller
5 IP
9 H (1 HR)
1 BB
9 SO
So far on the season he has a 81/19 K/BB in 57.1 IP.
It would be nice to see him promoted and I think he would still do quite well in High A as the Cardinals affiliate in High A is one of the most pitcher friendly places in all of the minors.
nah
Coming out of HS, his problem was lack of polish. I’d give him full years in both A levels unless he just utterly wrecks the league and then take the gloves off when he gets to AA, performance permitting. BB/K isn’t everything, or even close to it.
+1
I don’t get why people are in such a hurry to rush guys through the minors. It does more harm than good.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
fantasy baseball, imo
The sooner a player is out of the minors, the sooner he can help a fantasy team. Not that it makes sense really . . .even among excellent pitching prospects it takes 2-3 years before a guy finds his stride.
Fantasy
Has nothing to do with fantasy, kid is the best pitcher in the league and it isn’t a small sample for prospects anymore, he needs more of a challenge.
Stats aren't the only factor you should be looking at.
There are several good reasons to keep a player at a level where he’s succeeding, especially if the team wants him to work on certain things.
And yes, the primary reason people here want prospects to move quickly is because they’ve got the guy in a fantasy league.
Rushing vs. Wasting.
A fine line for sure.
The Wasting Bullets Theory:
Elite arms with a modicum of “pitchability” should not toil away for a few years in the minors as the elasticity in their shoulder/elbow tendons and ligaments stretch to the point whereby their “electric stuff” will never again be so awe inspiring. An exaggeration? Sure, but many (not all) elite pitchers have their best raw stuff in their early 20’s, the extra ticks on their FB and the more pronounced break on their benders. Why is not fully understood. Had Dwight Gooden spent his age 19/20/21 seasons in A/AA/AAA most of the free world never would have seen the best FB/CB combo since Koufax that Doc exhibited in the 84/85 seasons before his body began to fill out and he lost some of that awesome whip and coil in his delivery. Guys with stuff like Lincecum and Strasberg, even though it was de minimis, were simply wasting bullets in minor league ball. Lincy’s raw stuff in 2010 is not what is was in 2008 as his the now more stretched bands within his shoulder do not allow for the otherworldy snap back that they did in his early 20s. I am not saying to David Clyde them all and their is a balance for sure, but it is a shame to waste the truly young electric arms on bus rides from Little Rock to Tulsa.
They Need to Learn to Pitch/Sustain Confidence
The mind plays an incredibly important part in the success of an elite pitcher. Do not confuse this with the “Baseball IQ” (which is part of it), but more importantly the foreknowledge that in given situations your best stuff is invincible (even if its not always). The ultra confidence to use all of your arsenal in key spots. Elite pitchers all have this ability and some are able to ride this mental edge for a long time. However, it can be a tenuous advantage and broken confidence can cause a Grade A pitching prospect to take several steps backwards, some adjust and rebuild while others may never attain the same success that they would have had they been allowed to dominate and develop the mental psyche of invisibility.
One size does not fit all and to some degree it may be impossible to project which path a given eltie prospect should be led down. Ideally, both elements are recognized and understood. Mismanagement is evident on both sides, recent examples Rick Porcello (too quick), Tommy Hanson (needless dominant bullets expended in the minors). I tend to favor the former approach, but not with huge skipping of levels, but rather with short visits along the way.
Fat man is no more,
Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill
He is "wrecking" the league
Kid has by far the best K/BB numbers in the league. There is no reason to keep someone who has the best K/BB in the league with over 50 IP there. He obviously needs more of a challenge.
Oh, nevermind, I should probably be looking at ERA….
Miller
He won’t be promoted anytime soon. The Cardinals haven’t stretched him out that often in the Quad Cities piggyback rotation so his arm probably isn’t quite ready for 5-7 innings per start at Palm Beach.
And it’s ideal that Miller is in a league that he can “dominate”. The Cardinals want him working on and gaining confidence in his offspeed pitches as well as improving command of all of his pitches. You don’t want him working on a new pitch in a tougher league. Let him get used to it first and let have some success with all of his pitches before he moves up.
I think his line tonight is a good indicator of where Miller is at. He can blow hitters away with ease but he’ll miss location often and hang some offspeed pitches and give up a bunch of hits. Tonight: 9 Ks, 9 hits allowed.
Miller has been getting a good amount of groundballs so far this year and home runs haven’t been a big problem so Palm Beach isn’t going to help him too much. The more spacious outfields could hurt him more.
There’s no need to rush Miller right now. Let him develop. Once he improves his breaking ball and command then he’ll move quickly to the majors as he’ll require very little time in the upper minors.
by UncleBuck44 on Jul 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Eke
That’s a lot of hits. I know he’s working hard on his change up since transitioning to starting, and by the numbers, I’m hoping he’s throwing around 50% of them. But yeah, why not call him up to the bigs, in a pennant race, to pitch out of the bull pen now, and mess with making him a starter next spring?
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
Perhaps
Because he gave up 11 hits in 4 2/3IP in AAA. If you watched him in the Future’s Game, they were able to make pretty decent contact on the FB. He needs some more polish (either as an RP or an SP).
I watched
but I also trust the numerous scouting reports, and expert opinions that he could be good right now in a MLB bullpen, far more than 2/3 of an inning in an all star game, or the fact that he gave up 11 hits in 4.2 innings, when he’s likely overloading on change ups. A pitch he wouldn’t need/use in relief.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
Mike Foltynewicz
4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K, 5:2 GO/AO. That’s more like it!
In the same game:
Vincent Velasquez: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K.
J.C. Ramirez
8 IP, 9 H, 3 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 9 K, 8:7 GO/AO
6th start in Double-A.
[insert Cliff Lee joke here]
Trey McNutt
5 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 SO.
What kind of stuff does Beachy have?
His numbers are ridiculous, more people are going to take notice. Braves have done a great job at turning relievers into starters(Medlen, Morton and now Beachy). Converted Venters from a non prospect as a starter to a lights out reliever.
Re:
FB that sits 92-94 and touches 96, above average -plus curveball and a developing change. Dude reminds me of a taller Kris Medlen w/o the plus change up.
So...
He’s tall, has a FB in the mid 90s, a plus curve and a not so good change… That doesn’t sound like Medlen at all.
by esadb on Jul 16, 2010 5:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Never said
His change wasn’t good his numbers speak for themselves. He’s like Medlen because he started as a position player in college, moved to the BP to begin his pro career and is now dominating as a starter.
Aderlin Rodriguez
All aboard the A-Train . . well, 1 for 5 tonight, but with a homer. Went 2 for 5 last night.
Its gotten to the point were if he doesnt hit one its surprising.
"Hitting the ball was easy. Running around the bases was the tough part."- Micky Mantle
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jul 15, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ackley homers in Triple-A debut
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 15, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Twins
Wilson Ramos 1-3, BB , SB (1 and only-lol)
Ben Revere 0-4 , 1 SO
Max Kepler 0-7
Miguel Sano 1-6 , 4 SO
Oswaldo Arcia 0-4
Aaron Hicks (DL)
Joe Benson 1-4
Angel Morales 1-4
Brian Dozier 3-4 , 2B (off of Kenneth McNutt)
GCL pitcher Sterling Bonilla continues to impress, however has low K rates…
AAA SP Anthony Swarzak 5.0 IP , 1 H , 5 BB , 3 SO , 0 runs
AA SP Tyler Robertson 6.0 IP, 3 H , 2 BB , 5 SO , 0 runs
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jul 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
I thought the USA Collegiate Team was supposed to be webcasted again tonight?
Does anyone know why it isn’t? Or if it is, where?
Nats of interest
Danny Espinosa – 1-4, 3B, 2K
Chris Marrero – 0-1, BB, K [Late inning replacement today in a wild game]
-—
AJ Morris, 5IP, 2H, 0R, 0BB, 5K (First game back in Potomac after extended DL trip)
Derek Norris, 0-3, 2K, RBI
Steve Lombardozzi, 1-4, R
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Kobernus 2-4, 2R, K, SAC, SB
Justin Bluxom, 3-4, BB, R
Destin Hood, 1-4, R, BB, 2K
JP Ramirez, 1-4, R, RBI, K, Error
Eury Perez, 1-4, 2K, GIDP
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Hurry up and sign Harper and Cole
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen!
I believe you are suggesting there is mostly hot mess in the Nats system right now and you are pretty much right. Harper will be last day I’m sure. Cole’s the one minors aware Nats fans are on pins and needles about.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 16, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard Harper would sign quicker than Strasburg
that was about a week or 2 after the draft
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
by Marinerfanjake on Jul 16, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, but you forget...
…that with his commisssion from signing Strasburg Mr. Boras has figured out a way to alter the space time continuum. 1 minute before the deadline he will offer to take Kasten and Rizzo aboard his new machine where they will have days to negotiate while seconds pass in our earthly plane. I was hoping for Harper signing earlier but all reports have zero contact between the Nats and the Boras camp so far. Everybody would be totally stupid not to get it done, though.
Cole, however, will be an interesting case about whether the Nats want to put their money where their mouth is. Watching Trevor Holder put out “gutsy” performances as a college pitcher in the Sallie and Carolina leagues doesn’t make my day.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 16, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if Harper signs in the near future, Selig won't approve it until Aug 15 11:59PM
I really dislike Selig and his silly policies.
+1
There’s no way Selig approves that big of an over slot deal, before the deadline. It’s really stupid, the deadline needs to be moved up so these draftees can start playing before mid August.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra
Yes, the deadline was one of those idiotic policies
And why in the hell he decreed that it be so late in the year is anyone’s guess.
My Guess
It’s the week before College starts in some places, so it gives teams as much time to negotiate as possible before kids pack up their wares and go back to school.
The problem's not the deadline
It’s Bud’s inexplicably stupid* theory that he’s somehow deflating signing bonuses by not allowing over-slot contracts to go through until we get right up to the deadline. He’s not doing that, all he’s doing is costing teams and players alike valuable development time.
Putting the deadline in place as they did was actually one of the better developments from the last CBA.
*I realize that any stupid theory Bud Selig holds can be explained simply by the fact he’s Bud Selig.
by realitypolice on Jul 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's both
Some agents will wait until the deadline (Scott Boras for example) to start actually negotiating regardless of whether Selig would approve an over slot deal or not.
They did before too though
Before it was a uniform date, those same agents would hold off until their guys were moving into the dorms on campus to settle… There has to be a deadline somewhere, and having it be a uniform one rather than the first day of classes at any respective school was a positive change.
by realitypolice on Jul 16, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, in fairness, he may be deflating signing bonuses a bit by keeping Player B from pointing to Player A’s above slot deal signed on July 1 and say, “That’s the starting point for my negotiation!” But that, of course, presupposes that B didn’t know about A’s deal before it was signed, which admittedly may be a tenuous presumption in the small world of sports agents. Although I’ll still stick by my original statement that the net effect may deflate signing bonuses a smidge.
That said, the lost development time is a big deal — so if they’re going to set an artificial deadline, I’m a believer that they should just set it for July 15 or so.
Rangers
Mitch Moreland: 2-5 K
Craig Gentry: 3-6 2B HR
Engel Beltre: 2-4 RBI CS
Carlos Pimentel: 7.0IP 5H 3R 2ER 4BB 5K 1HR
Neil Ramirez: 6.0IP 7H 1R 1ER 2BB 7K 0HR
Jurickson Profar: 0-5
Mike Olt: 2-5 2B HR 5RBI 2K
Jake Skole: 1-3 BB K
Randol Rojas: 5.0IP 2H 0R 1BB 1K
Teodoro Martinez: 2-3 2B SB
Kellin Deglan: 1-3 2K
Christian Villanueva: 2-4
"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.
Another ho-mah for Arencibia
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…
Joherym "dont care how i spell his name" Chavez
Currently 1-2 HR #21 2R RBI 2BB
Kyle Seager is 2-4 3B R K and probably should be promoted to AA
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
More Braves:
Joe Leonard – 3-5, 2B, 3B, HR, K, 5RBI in Low A debut
Todd Cunningham – 3-5, SB(2)
Phil Gosselin – 3-5, 2 3B
Freddie Freeman – 2-4 now batting .289
Greg Halman
3-5 HR#20 2RBI 2R
He has a .263 average with a 25-87 BB/K
…they should send down Huntington & Nutting, because they aren’t ready, either. - royshowell
Fernando Martinez
3-5, 2 homers.
1175 OPS over the last 10 games with 5 homers and, perhaps most promising, a 5/5 K/BB ratio. Preceding that (40 games) he had 35 Ks and just 6 BBs for the entire season.
Is the game slowing down for him? He flashed the same power last year at Buffalo, but don’t recall him ever controlling the strike zone that way. Maybe just a small sample size, of course.
still a big fan...
of him putting it all together. he’s still 21 for a couple months.
As am I....
Performance-wise I think it’s a joke that so many have moved on to the next hot thing. He’s doing just fine. I do worry about him being injury prone, though.
Padres of note
Corey Luebke jumped to Portland; 6IP 4H 3R 7K/3BB
Matt Lollis 6IP 1H 0R 5/1 (third time in six starts he gives up 1 hit over six innings)
Among the “Back-from-the-dead” position guys:
Rymer Liriano 2-4, 2R, SB; 337/374/465 in Eugene after the ill-fated attempt to jump him to MWL
Edinson Rincon 3-4, 3B, 2R, 2BB 322/382/496 since June 1 (but still can’t field)
Jaff Decker 2-4, 2 2B; 2R, SB 333/459/551 16BB/14K since All-Star break (21 games)
And the “probably-still-among-the dead” guy, but you’ve gotta take small victories where you get them:
Allan Dykstra 2-3, 2B, HR, 2R, 3RBI, BB, SB That’s 5XBH in 5 days. If he’s not careful, he might accidentally push his SLG above 400! (Particularly painful since Christian Friedrich would have been the quintessential Grady Fuson pick, and he went two spots after Allan)
Jiwan James
2-6 w/ a 2b…i think his streak is at 21
what are the most recent scouting reports on him?
From what I’m hearing, pretty much the same: excellent athleticism, solid approach at the plate for a guy who pitched for awhile (even if the K:BB isn’t fantastic), still trying to really translate the tools into skills. James’ 2010 wasn’t quite the breakout many anticipated, but he’s held his own at least, so it’s sort of a status quo type deal.
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