Strasburg and Stanton
by John Sickels on Jun 8, 2010 8:14 PM EDT
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strats looks
pretty filthy…fastball sitting 96-100 and a wipe out curve
Agreed
Watching the game on MLB.tv and he’s hitting 101 mph in the 6th. His curve is sitting around 82 mph. LaRoche almost jumped out of the box on one of them. I’m very impressed with how he has handled everything.
http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/
Strasburg's pitch breakdown thru 6
He’s throwing 3 pitches: the fastball, the curve, and the changeup.
His FB is sitting 96-99, has hit 101 once, command has improved as the game has gone on. Throwing this about 2/3 of the time.
He’s thrown the curve throughout the count, about 1/4 of the time, and it is every bit as good as advertised, about 79 mph with a true 12-6 break, not quite at the Gregg Olson/Bert Blyleven level but damn impressive and I have no idea how on earth you can sit on it.
Finally, he’s thrown about 8-9 changeups, which are just ridiculous: 91 mph with wicked downward movement. A 91 mph change. I have nothing more to say on this.
Command
Perhaps he was a bit nervous at the start of the game …
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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 9, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Nolan Ryan's 5714 K's
I think Strasburg breaks Ryans K record by the All Star Break next year!
The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.
11 ks through 6
Only the third SP to k 11 in 6 innings or less this year. Sounds like it should be an impressive list to be in their company
The other two? Max Scherzer and Chuck Haeger.
Dunn HR
Hope that’s enough to give Stras the win. He deserves it.
http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/
1 more inning??
i think they should with the 2 run lead
I wouldn't.
If the team blows the lead, they blow the lead. No sense being anything other than uber-cautious.
nobody
warming up in the pen for the nats right now
i read 100
but storen just got up and started to throw
What a great start
Arguably exceeding the hype.
the MASN gun
just clocked Strasburg at 103.
He's good, but he ain't that good
Touched 100 twice according to Pitch f/x and had a bunch of 99 readings, which is still unheard of for a starter. His FB looks a lot like Ubaldo’s except with 2 extra MPH on it. Should be a lot of fun to watch.
Struck out The Side
Second inning in a row.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
i mean WOW
words cannot describe this outing
Re:
I’ve never seen anything like him. Kerry Wood in the beginning when he was on was really really good. Strasburg is like Kerry + 2-3 MPH and a better changeup. It’s sick.
if I were a hitting coach
The only thing I can think of to do is to treat Strasburg’s changeup as if it were a sinking, heavy, 2SFB and tell my hitters to sit on that, because it’s at least possible to hit. The problem is that the fastball and curve are unhittable and so he’s thrown the change like <10% of the time.
So yeah. Wow.
but other than that
I would preach 1) keep the bat on your shoulders and 2) bunt a lot
i would sit one pitch, one location
and then just take anything else. If nothing else, it’ll at least make him throw a lot of pitches and could create a situation where instead of facing him for 7-8 innings, you get him for 5-6 and the Nats pen for 3-4
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My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
wow
just….wow
color me convinced….the kid has the skills….with the standard injury caveats, this could could be ridiculous!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
maybe curt schilling
was right when he said the moment stratsburg steps on the field he will be the best pitcher in baseball
ummm, that's a little preemptive
there are still guys I’d take (U-baldy, Halladay, Lincecum, etc.) but I could see Stras being the best by midseason next year if he’s still doing what he’s doing now. I want to wait and see if he can still put up these numbers after hitters have adjusted to him, and if he is able to consistently pitch deep into games, and if his health looks aiight
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semantics
Schilling didn’t say he’d take Strasburg over any of them, but that it’s possible he could be the best the moment he steps on the field.
And while it may take a year before people are ready to annoint him as the best pitcher, with his arsenal of pitches, velocity, and control, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that we’ll look back at his numbers at the end of the season, and he will have put up the best numbers of any pitcher in baseball.
ah, i see. misinterpreted that.
It could happen. I wouldn’t bank on it, and I don’t see it, but there’s maybe a 5% chance Schilling nailed it then.
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
the only thing it appears that's going to stop him is himself
hopefully he has a healthy future, because that seems to be the only thing in his way to enshrining himself as one of the best pitchers in recent memory. His control is much much much better than I thought it would translate to professional baseball and even the major league level.
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
i’ve never really seen this type of stuff on anyone before. unreal.
he can pitch 128 mph but that breaking pitch is what sets him apart from almost anyone…breathtaking debut,.
I'd say it's the combo of the breaker and the sink on his fastball
Must be like trying to hit a bowling ball.
Watching the Yankees game at the same time as Stras
Phil Hughes has some great “stuff”, but compared to Starsburg, it looks like nothing
okay, so what is more surprising
1) Strasburg strikes out 2 batters an inning in his debut
2) Strasburg walks no batters over 7 innings in his debut
+1
especially after some initial (understandable!) wildness in the first few innings.
Admittedly, this Pirates team is basically a AAA lineup, but… still.
+1
the nerves, combines with the hype and no bb’s?? phenominal.
also, this isn't hyped at all
but Jeff Niemann is throwing a rather nifty 1-hit shutout thru 6. I believe he’s the last undefeated starter in the AL.
Niemann has really become a good MLB pitcher
I’m glad, too, because there was a time where I had nearly completely given up on him.
Hello.
I think the deal with Niemann
is that he’s 200 feet tall, and you look at his body type, and you expect him to be overpowering, and he’s not. In fact, Niemann hasn’t been a hard-thrower since before his Rice days; his FB sits 91. But he throws four above-average pitches for strikes, and he’s really become a complete pitcher.
He’ll probably always be underrated. Off the top of my head, he kind of reminds me of Andy Benes.
prediction
on WFAN tomorrow, at least one caller will say “Hey, the Yanks oughta trade for dis Strasburg guy, send Washington a coupla prospects.”
Too bad they don't have Melky anymore
Melky was always the catch-all lynchpin of every Yankee fan created trade.
don't forget Ian Kennedy...
between Kennedy and Melky, they could work a fantasy trade for anyone.
it will probably be that fat
yankee homer francesa…he might be the dumbest baseball guy in the world
If Francesca said it
then he probably wouldn’t mind trading Jason Hirsh for him.
Hey bud
I care if it makes you feel better.
Mike Stanton
that old lefty reliever who played for like a dozen teams, apparently he’s making a comeback as a hitter
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
great minor league player for
The Braves.
by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jun 9, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
*Sigh*
I had both on my fantasy team earlier this year. Traded Stanton for 3 starting pitchers about a month ago.
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hate to use a cliche adjective
but Strasburg was electricfying and terrifying at the same time. amazed at what he did…I’d like to see what he can do against the Phillies’ lineup when they are hitting….but even so, amazing. glad he’s a National. that franchise needs a lift and it looks like they might have gotten one.
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Looking ahead ...
Stras plus a fully functional Jordan Zimmermann will be a very nice 1-2.
"Most overrated prospect in the minors." -- Bravesin07 on Madison Bumgarner
And if they go out and actually sign Cole.
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
Frederick0220
Strasburg is good
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