Draft Thread
by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2010 5:48 PM EDT
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Chance Ruffin
Anyone else see that K. Law thinks the Reds are ready to take him with the 12th pick? Seems like a big overdraft to me.
Ifs
What if Heyward and Stanton had decided to go to school, what would this draft look like then? Would Harper still be consensus #1?
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
go spend the $10 and get the topo 755 scouting reports in pdf from
andy at www.mlbbonusbaby.com
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
he undersold himself
this is one of the better predraft manuals I have ever read. 755 players and stats for the top 100
I hope he can be convinced to do this again…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
already have it
Just figured i’d put that out there for people…
by Jordan Tuwiner on Jun 7, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I wrong to hope Oakland DOESN'T take one of O'Conner or Colon?
I want Whitson or Choice, myself. DeShields is intriguing.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
O'Conner wouldn't be a bad pick
I don’t like Colon much at all though, especially since the A’s just took 2 MIs in a row.
What is worth a top ten pick about O'Conner?
Everything I’ve seen says something like “I don’t think he can make good contact”. A no-contact catcher or SS doesn’t sound especially appealing. I like the power and arm though. I prefer O’Conner to Colon.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
top ten, slight overdraft perhaps
Big power, great athlete, really impressive raw defensive tools with an awesome arm. I’m usually skeptical of prep catchers being picked early, but O’Connor’s raw power and athleticism gives me hope. If he moved to 3B, he’d probably be a good defender there with nice pop.
do not like deshields
He’s similar to Ben Revere, but you really need to project to get his hitting for average tool anywhere near what Revere is showing.
Might gamble if I had multiple early picks, would not want him as a top 10 overall pick.
Not saying he's my top choice
Just an interesting player. I really like Whitson, but I keep hearing the A’s aren’t on HS pitchers. I really don’t like Colon, but maybe that’s because he’s basically got Mark Ellis as a ceiling.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
grandal
Grandal-to-the-Royals looks like it has fallen through. He could drop like a rock….Red Sox? Cardinals?
Could see the Jays maybe being interested
If some of the other talent disappears. The cash wouldn’t be an issue if they like what they see.
by TtD on Jun 7, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
BA predicts Grandal will be the 3rd C chosen
and 25th overall http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2255
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Chance Ruffin
Keith Law has suggested that the Reds are looking at him for the 12th pick . . .thoughts?
ruffin
I think Ruffin is a supplemental or second round guy on talent.
But if they do a pre-draft deal anything can happen
great draft coverage so far on MLB
We just hit the point where A’s fans collectively lit themselves on fire.
Dammit I missed it
What happened? Let me guess…they mentioned us passing on Todd Helton for Ariel Prieto? On David Wright for John Rheinecker? Etc.?
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Van Popple instead of Chipper
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Ah
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Please take Colon so he won't be there at 10
Thank you, Royals.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
did you hear the laughter in the background?
They’ve definitely filled the studio compared to years past . . .normally, you could hear a pin drop in there.
This year, it would have to be a large pin.
I refuse to turn the sound on
Harold Reynold’s analysis is the last thing I want to hear.
you're missing some hilarious stuff
including Machado over Harper
wow, Harold Reynolds really needed to read the notes
Saying that Robbie Aviles could be taken today in the preshow was bad enough, but going on and on about how he thinks Harper is okay at 3B or OF, but that what makes him special is that he’s a catcher . . .
harper
Scott Boras is completely right about this. Move Harper to the outfield to spare his knees. Mauer is a once-in-50-years freak.
+1
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Wieters
According to Peter Gammons, is in fact, retarded.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
yeah, that was epic
Can we get this on Youtube?
it was something like
“some people believe Weiters is retarded because he wasn’t allowed to call pitches in college”
He didn’t say that Matt Wieters is retarded, he said he “was retarded”, the word used as a verb; his development was retarded due to him never calling games in college.
I assume they all know that but were just jokeing around.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Taillon
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions
Taillon
I always get a little freaked by guys who are that big that young . . .I worry a lot about the coordination, being able to repeat mechanics (which is where I think a lot of injuries stem from) . . .anybody else?
no not me, but you may be on to something there
Matt Hobgood will stilll turn out to be a solid Prospect and a good pitcher
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I have believe that the inability to repeat your delivery would put stress on different parts that are normally not used to it. But others would know better.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
sounds like the Mets are looking Cox
regardless of who is there
That would really piss me off as he looks like another Bill Mueller and the Mets have Wright at 3B and Havens/Tejada in the system at 2B. Instead there are a number of pitchers or higher upside bats who they could selected
Shocker there
good pick nontheless
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
Anybody else notice that Harper and Machado
Are listed as the EXACT same height and weight that is kinda cool
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
random thing I didn't realize
Machado is only 3 months younger than Harper.
you mean older ???
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
NO WAY !?!?!?!?!?!!?
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mayo with the tweet
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
PLEASE
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So far
so predictable. KC is the first selection with a whiff of mystery.
Mayo tweeting that Colon going to KC.
If true, thanks KC!
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
lolz
If true I will be rather shocked myself still not a horrible pick
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
that is a little extreme. not like sale is a lock to be amazing.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong
Colon’s an okay player, maybe has a few strong seasons in him . . .but for the money he’ll cost here, they could have done better.
yeah
obviously it isn’t going to be considered an amazing pick or anything, but the real question is specifically who else they were considering that they passed on. maybe they’ll lowball him and sign him cheap.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously
I don’t like Colon, but just about everyone will tell you that there’s so much variability after the top 3 picks. It’s not like they popped Dave Filak there or something
maybe they see Derek Jeter like potential in him
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This got a hell of a lot more interesting
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Mayo tweeting
Pomeranz at 5, Loux at 6
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
wowzers
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Pomeranz it is, Power lefty to go with Hagadone Ooooooo
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
feels like a pretty average 2B to me
Safe I guess.
yeah MLB.com says he has Polly Palanco like feel at the plate
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it bad
When Colon gets compared to Polanco?
yeah
if that was his floor, even with no ceiling, it would be fine. but of course, that isn’t his floor.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oddly
I would have thought the logical Polanco comp would be Zack Cox
CLE - Pomeranz
…
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
The Pomeranz family has some pretty sick hair
look how smooth it is
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
Vitters was the one with the jelly voice box, right?
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by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just
Want to know what conditioner they use.
I want his Mel Kiper Jr. hair gell or conditioner , YES
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
How does
Pomeranz compare to Sowers projection-wise?
Pomeranz has "less pitches"? Huh?!
Less pitches? Are you kidding, mrkupe? If not, I don’t see how – Pomeranz has a better fastball and a plus-plus curveball, plus a solid average changeup that could be above-average with more refinement.
Sowers, as mentioned, has less of a fastball (the velocities may be about the same depending on who you listen to, as Sowers was supposed to have around an 88-92 to 89-93 fastball when he was drafted out of Vanderbilt, but Pomeranz has considerably more movement, which is why it’s considered to be a plus, overpowering fastball, whereas Sowers’ never was).
Additionally, Sowers was never considered to have plus offspeed stuff of any type. He had essentially average offspeed stuff, possibly with the potential to be better, above-average, but that only describes Pomeranz’s changeup at most. The main difference is that Pomeranz has a plus-plus curveball – Sowers’ offspeed stuff wasn’t and isn’t even close to touching that pitch, thereby making your “less pitches” comment confusing and, in my opinion, incorrect – no offense.
As for the hair volume, I’ll take your word for it, since I haven’t actually seen Pomeranz’s hair up close. I have seen Bieber’s, however, especially when he rammed into that door a few weeks back, and if Pomeranz’s hair is anywhere close to that, that’s pretty impressive, maybe even a “plus” attribute. :-)
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
I do agree with the command comment, though!
Hello again mrkupe,
Sowers was considered to be a control pltcher coming out of Vanderbilt, whereas Pomeranz isn’t considered a control pitcher, though some speculate that his rising BB/9 IP rate throughout the season was due to that strained pectoral muscle he had.
Still, Sowers does have a bit of an edge there, but arguably, I think the Indians have reversed their philosophy in acquiring pitchers over the past few years, first with their trades, and now with their drafting. They are looking to acquire more power arms and mold them into pitchers, whereas they used to look for pitchability and then have them be pinpoint with average stuff (like Sowers and even Huff, etc.). That’s not just Pomeranz this year, but guys like RHP Austin Adams (5th Rd. 2009 Draft) last year, not to mention guys they’ve acquired in trades (Knapp, Hagadone, Price, Masterson, etc.).
That’s not to say they’re just looking for flamethrowers who can’t hit the side of a barn standing right in front of them, but they’re starting to look more for stuff and velocity and not necessarily looking for guys with pinpoint control and marginal to average stuff.
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
holy crap
Shocking (but not unpleasant) to see you around. :)
Pomeranz does have fewer pitches. Sowers had four solid average pitches (curveball was better though) – the fact that he was able to command them all was one of the reasons why he happened to be a good prospect. But as far as effectiveness (or the grades, if you will) of their respective pitches . . .yeah, Pomeranz is clearly superior. Better fastball (like I said), and a better curveball when it’s on, although that the consistency of that pitch has been questioned at times. I’d take Pomeranz’s three pitches over Sowers’ four, as would just about everybody else, so don’t sweat it.
Hard to say on the walks . . .we’ll see, but I think you’d acknowledge that he did walk quite a few guys this year, and that it’s something to be watched. It’s a pretty enticing package from the left side if he’s healthy, and he is definitely not a “low upside” type of player if things work out. He’s not Sowers v. 2.0.
Nice to see you too! ;-)
Hello mrkupe,
Yes, it’s been a while – good to see you and everyone else too! I’ve been busy, but try to stay informed and drop by when I can. :-)
After I wrote my initial post, I thought you might have been referring to Sowers’ 4 pitches (forgot for a bit that he had 4 pitches), whereas Pomeranz having 3 pitches – my bad. When I first read your title, I thought “pitches” meant “quality” pitches, not “pitches that are there, but that are not anything to really write home about” (which is referring more to Sowers’ arsenal).
As you mentioned, Sowers’ curveball was considered to be his best offspeed pitch, a little above-average if I remember correctly, but not really a plus pitch, which I thought was maybe the biggest difference between him and Pomeranz.
As for Pomeranz, yes, the walks are a little concerning – I’d be curious to know how his walk rate was before he suffered that pectoral muscle injury, though I don’t know exactly when he sustained that injury, nor what site would give his start-by-start stats to do a comparison to see if his BB rate was adversely affected after that pectoral muscle injury.
Regardless, if Pomeranz is healthy, I agree that he’s not Sowers v. 2.0, which again seems to indicate the Indians’ change in philosophy when it comes to acquiring/drafting pitchers – they are looking more at power and projectability and making pinpoint command and pitchability secondary (they’d still like pinpoint command and pitchability like any team would, but finding a power package with pinpoint command is like finding a needle in a haystack – perhaps Strasburg or Prior, and we know that Prior didn’t make it due to injuries).
Personally, I would give Pomeranz some time off, perhaps allowing him to pitch in a few games toward the end of the Rookie Level season (mid to late August), or perhaps not letting him pitch until next season. He might not sign until mid-August anyway, but even if he does sign earlier than that (it sounds like he would be more signable than the Top 3 in this draft), I’d still give him a few months before even considering him pitching in any games, just to ensure that that pectoral muscle is fully healed.
Also, perhaps cleaning up his motion (like many professional teams do when working with new pitching prospects) would also enable Pomeranz to have improved command and maybe even more consistent velocity (say, consistent 93-95).
Of course, only time will tell, but certainly, I like the pick, even with the caveat that most say that picks #4-44 are almost identical; it depends on the scouting of the individual organizations themselves to make the calls that will turn out best. I am happy that the Indians weren’t shy about taking Pomeranz after the last-minute buzz about Pomeranz’s falling down the draft boards, since it seems that Pomeranz was a guy they were really after pretty much from the beginning.
Again, good to talk with you, and thanks for clarifying your “pitches” comment – you’re right about Sowers having 4 pitches to Pomeranz’s 3 – my bad. :-)
Take care, keep up the great work, and have a good day!
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
why do they take the full time
each time? just to drag it out on purpose?
it isn’t that bad of a wait, but it must be bud’s call.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well there goes Loux to D'Backs
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
that was one of the TOP Twins targets , shucks
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Keith Law
says the Mets are deciding between Harvey and Cox
I would prefer either Sale, but I can live with Harvey. No Cox please
wow, I think I honestly would rather have Workman to Harvey but I dunno
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
he has good stuff . . .for the moment
Didn’t have good stuff last year. And mechanics wonks seem to really dislike him.
more Harvey
Command is wobbly. High upside, but a much larger risk than people seem to be remembering at the moment.
Someone please take O'Conner before the A's make a huge mistake.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
This
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
He's not a HUGE mistake
That would’ve been Colon. Thank you, Royals.
I’m hoping it’s Whitson or Choice. If Sale falls he’d be very interesting.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a huge mistake with all the talent left on the board.
Considering that Houston is leaning DeShields.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
I guess
I want one of Whitson or Choice at this point. Or Sale. O’Conner wouldn’t be the best use of a pick…unless he turns into a monster. Any reason O’Conner can’t be David Wright if he hits his ceiling?
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor contact ability...
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
So he can never hit for average?
He’s what, 17? He’s got great tools. He’d be a lot better pick than McGuire or Austin Wilson, that’s for sure.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Errr
Astros taking Deshields I guess…blah…
meh, better than the oconners and coxs of the draft
still would prefer either Sale
Yeah
Not in love with the Stros going with DeShields if it’s the pick.
deshields
Harvey could a lot like Gibson or White
yeah they could have gotten him at #19 possibly ouch
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he better turn out to be
at least as good as carl crawford.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i was kidding
but he is an 80 baserunner, so that is comparable, and they think he’ll have 15-20 HR power.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
A five-foot nine outfielder with a rag arm?
Next, please…
and supposedly 15-20 HR power
again, not saying it is a good pick, but that isn’t necessarily bad.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a lot of power for a little guy.
I mean, he’s built like a rock, but it’s hard to create leverage when you’re 5’9". Not impossible, but hard.
Tools Whore
thats just what i've seen
i don;t even know the source.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the next David DeJesus lol i just like comparing people to him
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
To borrow a line from Step Brothers
I just want to deliver one of these (a fist) right in your suck hole [Bryce Harper]
DUDE...
chill. But you know what is good for shoulder pain Bryce, if you lick my butthole.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
does Kam Mickolio have a brother eligible for this draft?
sorry, couldn’t resist
lol
I love B and B, but let’s keep the off-color language to a minimum in this thread please. I don’t need complaints.
okay, Harper on TV
He’s being kept in “The Room of a Thousand Baseballs”. Thought this was just an urban legend
no way past Milwaukee at # 14 IMO
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Josh or Chris?
I’m hoping Josh gets to the Rays at 17
As an A's fan
I’m currently in the fetal position.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Does Bud sound like Tom Hanks
Or am I having another stroke?
you should call
an ambulance
Are you experiencing dizziness and short breath
side note?
doesn’t tom cruise in his new movie seem exactly like michael j. fox?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Jays
hoping they get one of the Sales
i was reading whitson and choice are going next
Flood of overreaction from waves of A's fans incoming
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Man if you're a franchise sitting in the mid or upper teams You Have to Be just Pumped
with how this top 10 is going …. TONS of options falling
Whitson !!!
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
As an angels fan I'm getting amped!
They must be going crazy. They’ll have the cream of the crop at 18-40
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
*teens
not teams sorry ughed and Thrilled not “pumped” …lol sorry guys
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm newly convinced
That the Rays were just screwing with Houston with their reported “interest” in DeShields Jr.
maybe it was josh sale
they were pretending to like better.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm with John on that
I’d take Whitson over Sale also
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Whitson and Latos
could form a very nice combo down the road.
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
A Latos, Simon Castro, and Whitson top of the rotation?
Yes please!
"If guys wanna complain about playing here they better check themselves and leave" - Nick Hundley.
Goldstein and Law both say Choice to A's
Goldstein loves Choice apparently
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
wow A's fans have to be Thrilled with that I would think
Very good OF prospect
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm stoked
VERY happy!
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Very happy
The thought of Christian Colon in green and gold made me want to eat my own face.
by ToddyBaseball on Jun 7, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS
Does anyone have any comparisons for Choice? Nelson Cruz and Carlos Lee came to mind…anyone have anything better? I know comparisons don’t mean much, but they’re still fun.
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Corey Brown?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
adam dunn
a lowish average, high OBP big power guy, if it all works out.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis buck?
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by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2010 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He has a LOT more power than Buck
"You seen my cell phone?" "What’s it look like?" "Like two horses f***ing. It’s a phone, son. It looks like a phone."
by CaliforniaJag on Jun 7, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse Barfield
According to Goldstein.
Everytime I think of that, I get super duper excited. Super excited.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Ron Gant
Also heard Vernon Wells at the plate but not in the field.
by ToddyBaseball on Jun 8, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Hope not given the talent on the board
Not keen on Cox
by TtD on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
he's pretty talented
but wants a lot of money
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I want Josh Sale
Sale in left, Snider in right…
Michael Choice
This man isn’t phased by anything!
Haha that was terrible.
How does he have a job?
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
it reminded me
of those SNL Chris Farley interview skits. “Hey! Remember that movie you were in…? That was awesome.”
what an incredible interview!
I wanted to adopt, but all the good looking babies were taken
by joeytothelimit on Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What are the thoughts on Colon now that it's been a few picks later?
Coffee. The NEW Performance Enhancing drug for Sport's Writers. Just ask Ken Rosenthal.
Not the worst pick...
the Tony Sanchez pick last year was worse…lol…it could be the same kind of pick.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
He's working out just fine for the Bucs, thank you very much.....
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Jun 7, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all right
I get why they did it, would’ve rather they had continued to emphasize the prep angle that they’ve been having success with.
Serious
face palm during that interview. I feel bad for Choice.
At this point can we call anything a surprise?
Lotta guys with a first round grade are gonna fall out. So happy we signed Mike Gonzalez now.
kind of surprised
I’m not mad, not thrilled, I liked the pick when I though Sale and the other Sale would be gone, but good pitcher none the less
Shoot I was hoping he'd fall a bit more
I really like him, to me its no surprise I thought Mayo or someone I read had him in the top 10
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of taken aback by the McGuire pick
finally a mild surprise.
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no surprises?
Houston Astros fans would like to have a word with you.
And probably borrow an oxygen tank too, while they’re at it.
well that wasn't a surprise
they were reported to be picking either sale, choice or deshields.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Man...
What the hell? Another college arm? Ghosts of Ricciardi…so much for the dawning of a new era.
Focusing on player type in the draft
was JP’s mistake. Let’s not replicate it here.
I would have prefered J Sale or Cox (I mean, where are the hitters for this team), but they did just get Adeiny for SS (or a good position), and this pitcher does help the rotation. Clearly, the Jays know pitching, and if they ever figure out pitcher health, they might even trade an arm or three for 3B/CF/C help a la the Roy deal.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Selig
Needs to speak with Bryce Harper about where he gets his hair product from since Bud’s is wearing off.
He is a good pitcher...
potential for 4 above average pitches. Kind of like Leake last year, but with more potential and he won’t come right up and dominate. Also, he is like 7 inches taller, but what I mean is they both are smart guys with a good mix of pitches but not overwhelming stuff.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
I dont hate the pick actually
Just took me by suprise. Doesn’t sound like the type of player AA has been talking about.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Didn’t we draft a guy like this last year in the first round?
very solid pick here
Won’t break their budget, relatively safe bet to contribute in some way.
Chris Sale/Josh Sale
wonder where they will fall
I honestlly think that if JOSH Sale falls into the 20's
The Twins will gobble him up, but I bet he’s gone long before then
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the rays
really want him. plus the astros too probably. not as much as deshields, but they like him.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Machado
I put together some GIFs of his swing here:
http://oriolesprospects.com/2010/06/07/orioles-select-manny-machado-with-3-pick-in-2010-mlb-draft/
Klaw says grandal
EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!
makes plenty of sense
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no he's a darn good prospect I think they'll develop both of them well
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I just mean
I guess they think they can get him below his crazy demands. I thought one of the reasons it fell through with Royals was due to his demands.
don't need consent
unless you draft a player in back-to-back YEARS, not just draft the same guy twice. E.g., Rays would need consent to redraft LeVon Washington (not that they would)
not only that
The Reds have never drafted him.
The Red Sox drafted him 8th round out of HS.
it was a nice get
at 12
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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 7, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wimmers but I hope not REALLY HOPE NOT -lol
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hoping for a Sale
Will take either, don’t want to get my hopes up by choosing one.
considering he apparently wants Posey money
How does he compare to Buster Posey?
What a combo
Taillon/Matzek would have been
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
So. Starting a poll on what ends Machado's Orioles career.
1. Injury before making the majors
2. Hitting .200 in AA ball at 22
3. Exposed to Rule 5 draft, pick up by the Angels
4. Abducted by aliens
5. Retirement after successful MLB career
don't underestimate
7. Traded for veteran starter
judges ruling
would that include trading him for Huff 2.0, or does traded for a crappy old position player need its own number?
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
5
makes Tulo like splash at 22
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Tyler Robertson 2.0 ???
he’s tall, long, lean and lefty
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
nah I'd say he has better stuff than Robertson EVER had really
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure...
but everytime I see him pitch I leave the room. He is just praying to get hurt with that delivery.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
I dunno
Look at Chris Sale’s Back when he dilvers its kind of a bit of a scary bend going on there
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean it's a risk
But I think it’s worth it at that point. Plus he’s a lefty with a good changeup and fastball sooooo, I mean come on.
Jim Callis
says Rangers looking at Skole at #15
Sale could be a steal for a team like Tampa if he falls that far
John - what's with the helium on Skole?
he went from outside the consensus top 100 to #15 in… three days?
skole
Great tools and signable.
He’s a bit raw/rusty but the upside is very high, and they wouldn’t have drafted him if he wasn’t willing to sign.
thats a STRONG possiblity and prediction
Maaaybe Austin Wilson ???? nah
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
frankly, either of those two would be a terrific fit for their system
Lots of good options for the Rays coming up really, the draft has worked out well for them.
That's what I think and then Stetson(coolest name in baseball) to the Angels
Broken Wood...
by angelskid2210 on Jun 7, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Twins may want Stetson Allie too :(
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
not really in the draft budget, is he?
I thought somebody mentioned the Houston draft budget here yesterday . . .and there wasn’t enough room for anything close to what Cox wants.
Houston doens't pay people in the draft.
Tools Whore
hey John if Angels don't take Wimmers
I see him going all the way to the Twins !!!
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
where's toonsterwoo ????? lol
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
was out getting piping to fix some drainage issues.
I’m a bit stunned right now, admittedly. No other way around it. This isn’t even a Colvin case – Colvin was rumored to be sneaking up late first.
That said, his stuff compares relatively well to the college arms in that range. And I’ll give Wilken some BOD – he’s been solid at picking some college arms with the Cubs.
No doubt I’m stunned. Sulking in sorrow? Sorry. low-mid 90’s with 2 good breaking balls is an intriguing enough package that I wouldn’t be sulking in sorrow.
Shadow Rays 1.17
OF Josh Sale (whom I hope and expect the Rays will take IRL) —
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/6/7/1505899/shadow-rays-draft
Yeah pick of the round in that regard for sure
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
even if you think deshields is a terrible pick
he was a fairly likely possibility for the astros at 8.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Has Tim Wilken missed on a first round pick yet? Let me know when you do.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 8, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, I was just typing what I was seeing
I think the guys in the studio were expecting some surprises, but that pick totally blew them away.
as noted above
i’m stunned with the picks, but I’m not sure what that jab is for. The Cubs system is in fairly solid shape, particularly on the arm side. Not great, as Cashner/Castro will graduate in all likelihood, but solid.
"Someone most have been on him
Otherwise they could have wait a few round" HAHAHA
steal for Tampa
I would have considered him at #7
Heh!
Could see that Simpson’s name had just been stuck on a card there, they really weren’t expecting him.
do the astros
spend some money on castellanos or cox? they can always take the pick next year if it doesn’t work out.
who do Red Sox go with at 20 ?
Workman ???? or Wimmers? or O’Conner ? hmmm …. can’t think
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions
whew
Going to be very expensive.
They announced him as a 3B, MLB Network has no footage of him as a hitter!
Are you 100% certain about that?
I thought the Angels were suiting him as a pitcher??? i dunno
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
simpson
Don’t try to go to the Southern Arkansas website….it crashed my computer and I had to reboot.
I had Simpson on my sleeper list but didn’t expect him anywhere this high.
yeah, wow
Cubs must like the guys soooo much that they didn’t want to risk taking him in the second round like they thought he might have been taken just a few picks before they pick in round 2 …. lol hmmmmm
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
*guys = Simpson
or just guy ….ugh
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that is interesting
might have a fight on their hands.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry Brandon Wood
your time has come
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
I'll say either Workman or Allie or O'conner
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe a 3B
castellanos or cox. supposedly heck has a decent budget this year.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
folty
I guess Houston must have had some intelligence that suggested he was a target for teams in the 20s.
needs a breaking ball, but good arm
Lack of an effective breaking ball is a concern for a prep RHP getting drafted that high, but he does have an excellent arm and a good feel for his changeup.
?
You saw a nice hard curve on MLB network just there, and I’ve seen two scouting reports that grade it out as above-average.
I've seen mixed
But yeah, clearly Houston likes what they see, and I’m inclined to agree.
seems like
most astros fans are happy too
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
Very legitimate choice there, he was a guy that the Astros loved . . .obviously, because they jumped up a bit to make sure they brought him in.
supposedly from a Q and A with Folty (no link)
The major-league draft is in June. How badly do you want to play in Wrigley Field or Yankee Stadium?
That’s been a dream of mine. I’m hoping I will get a chance to sign. It will have to be a life-changing amount of money or a high draft pick. Otherwise, I still have a great school to fall back on (Texas).
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my draft screen froze!
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
Man I wish the Twins had 2 picks in the next dozen or so
so many options
Eibner, Allie, Wimmers, Cole, Workman, O’conner, Austin Wilson, Wojo
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions
yeah TOUGH choice for your Shadow Twins
wow one of the tougher choices ?
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+ cox, castellnelos, Bedosrian
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooooooooooooo Bo Sox take Vitek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
there kind of guy no doubt
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of an odd choice for the Red Sox
with Castellanos and Cox still on the board
Twins
If I were them I’d take Wimmers or O’Conner
He saw who they went with.
He saw who they went with.
i got a feeling
Twins take justin o’conner
I hope not I also hope not Kvasnicka
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
with ALL those other options there The Twins big-board definately held there guy - I would think
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it'd be surprising
Everybody thinks they LOVE Alex Wimmers . . .and why shouldn’t they?
what's the argument for Wimmers over Workman?
similar signability as college juniors, both RHP, and every scouting list I’ve seen prefers Workman?
Seriously: am I missing something?
great, thanks
I guess I’m running the risk of being a velo whore, plus as a Rays fan I’ve come to think of changeups as teachable.
Rangers
I think Workman would be the natural choice.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
yeah sadly he reminds me of Shooter Hunt
Only he can actually throw a strike so he’s already light years ahead of Shooter…lol
I like the Pick not as good as Kyle Gibson but not too far behind.
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...
not the worst comp. but Hellboy is in a league of his own right now. How many pitches does he have now?
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
Like 5 or 6.
EVERYONE HIT FOR HOMERS! YOU TOO PENA! Every hit should be a homer! EVEN THE BUNT ATTEMPTS!
Really didn't see that one coming.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
not really
Another very easy sign, lots of teams really liked him. LAD were planning on grabbing him at 28 if he was on the board.
I should note
I think Skole will be a relatively easy sign where he went, just to clarify that.
Rangers/Deglan
Supposedly a predraft deal in place
If he is there, it looks like the Dodgers will go Vettleson (guess I got a steal with him in the Mock Draft!)
so many good players left for the Giants
please take one of them!
Will cox make it big in San Francisco?
But that might insult the greatness of conor gillaspie
this will be interesting
They’ve looked at a lot of college guys too.
+2
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how far Workan, Wojo, Allie, Eibner fall?
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
decent bat
Reasonably safe bat, don’t have a good feel for how much upside is in there . . .thoughts?
reynolds
Reynolds actually said something I agree with about the college juniors overpricing themselves.
Brentz, Ranaudo, Eibner, Hahn, Wojo, Bettis
that’s my top 6
i would include Seth Blair on tere
worried about Ranaudo holding up
reynolds
OK, now he just ruined it by “college stunts growth” which COMPLETELY contradicts his earlier points about guys developing well in college when not drafted out of high school.
well...
maybe he’s referring to all the drinking and drugging.
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you SF
takes the last guy on my please-don’t-let-the-Rays-take-this-guy list
I could see it, I LOVE Allie's fastball and he's underrated to me
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That is such a white guy's name
Is he from the south with that hideous comb over hair style too like pomeranz, beckham
Cards
ending Cox’s slide
Not a fan of him, but better here than #7
think Cox debut in Batavia in the NYPA
makes this league much more interesting.
will he sign in time to play?
He might get in a couple of weeks’ worth of games, maybe, if he’s lucky.
I hate the cards drafts
A gap hitting 3b who may profile better at 2b and will be a late sign? Over Cole, Allie, castellanos, etc?
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he was a good value here
He wasn’t a top of the draft hitter, but in most drafts, this is the tail end of the range in which he’d go.
He has his flaws, but I think he’s been unfairly criticized . . .wasn’t his fault that there aren’t many good college bats this year.
Thanks for trying
To talk me off the ledge. Maybe a good value here, but the BEST value? So many guys to choose from with seemingly more upside and no worse signability. Sigh.
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
by siddfynch on Jun 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dunno
If he taps into his power again, he has plenty of upside. And he’s certainly safer than a lot of the other options.
Ok
I’ve read a little more thoroughly about him and am happier. The player overview I had pulled ip at the time was a little nearsighted, I think.
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by siddfynch on Jun 8, 2010 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Siddy
I would have accepted Cox over Deck for the Jays more than a dozen picks earlier. I don’t know enough about the other two to comment, but Allie screams radar gun champion to me (again, I’m out of my league here; mine are only the ideas worth checking out).
I’d love to get a ruling from John as to whether Allie is any better at this stage than Schelereth or Perry or Perez or Weathers or Fields. If he’s not, then I’d always want my team to pass with any semblance of a decent other option.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to know
Yeah, feel much better now about Cox. Er – you know what I’m trying to say.
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Castellanos
must have floated insane salary demands
castellanos
I think he’s looking for at least $2 million, and I’ve seen some really outrageous figures floated around.
LOL
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
K. Parker strikes me as a failure to adjust to the realities of this draft
Not a bad pick at 26 in the abstract, but over Brentz? I can’t come up with an argument for that.
I like the pick.
if there is one team to convince him to sign its the phillies.
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
solid pick, yes
If they wanted a lefty prep pitcher, weren’t exactly a lot of places to look.
Who do the Phillies take here with all the options available?
I hope they pony up and take a Castellanos
Slowey is a control freak, and I like it!!
I dont't know if he lasts till round 2 at all, he'll be taken awfully early in that round IMO
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt he gets taken in the supp round
I would love to see the Pirates go after him (but that’s a pipe dream).
yeah I think he goes in round 2 like i said
i don’t think he’s go sandwhich round either
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
lemme call him and ask
jk
5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 7, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe not
Frankie P suggesting a certain Ohio flamethrower is coming up . . .
no kidding I'm really surprised
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't think
it’s a sneaky smart way of punting a pick ‘til they actually have enough money next year? I know that’s a greed dog strategy normally, but divorce seems like a rare and special disaster, right?
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Brentz, Allie, O'Conner
The 3 best still on my board
yeah not bad
others to round out a top 5 best available
Brandon Workman, Asher Wojocheski (lol) , and maybe Austin Wilson
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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Harold Reynolds doing commentary on Lee's football video?
Because they somehow managed to get football footage but not baseball footage?
It gets better and better.
thought
Dodgers might be punting the pick here to go again at 29 in 2011 with presumably a richer vein of talent.
lee
Conspiracy theory: make an offer to Lee. When he turns it down, pocket the pick for next year and save the money for when ownership is more clear next year.
And
you do. I’m just slow reading down the line.
It’s a decent strategy if true. I don’t see what the Jays gained, if anything, from not getting Pax signed last year, but how often does a team’s payroll and budget get chumped by a dee-vorce? Can’t be every day.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Literally my first thought
Lasorda’s face directly before the pick was announced was priceless.
by blackoutyears on Jun 8, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume 30 has to be Brentz
although for the sake of my Rays at 31, I hope not
Bedrosian for the first
Seems good, they do love him. Allie or O’Connor next?
I think they might try to let Tago drop to 37, although I’m sure they love him.
bedrosian
Bedrosian is a reasonable pick.
I’ll guess O"Conner but my prediction skills are apparently poor.
Shadow Rays 1.31
Bryce Brentz. Wouldn’t mind Workman, Eibner or Wojo here. Hard to screw up this pick.
BPA
I have Brentz so much higher than anyone else on my board right now, given the parameters (unprotected pick). Would be happy with those 3 arms, but I’ve gotta go with value. I’m sure the Bowling Green Hot Rods can figure out where to play guys.
why don't you wait
and see if you like the pick. and if they go with workman, eibner, stick with that?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this pick
Fills an organizational need and likely is signable
hmm
with a superstud like nevin ashley?
by auclairkeithbc on Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
I assume they’ve got a deal worked out with him?
o'conner
O’conner is a fine pick.
Yankees….spend the money for Allie? Go with Brentz or Eibner? Or take someone even more conservative?
That Simpson card still so shiny
on that draft board :D.
Cannot believe that Brentz is still there
with a little coaching he has a really good bat
Supposedly
The Astros have a decent sized budget this year. Castellanos?
If Houston passes on Allie..
the Jays better put that supposed big budget to use!
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 7, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, I think we're about to learn just how much money they've got
Potential of overslot deals later in the draft or not, they’re not going to find guys as talented as Castellanos or Allie later.
Terrible Pick
There is no way that he wouldn’t be available in second round.
by cookiedabookie on Jun 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate this line of thinking
chances are, your wrong. they aren’t just picking that guy for the hell of it. he’d probably have been gone by their next pick, and they liked him enough that they didn’t want to take that risk.
baseball rules.
It's not they could trade down
to max the value of the pick. This ain’t the NFL. This ain’t Isiah taking Balkman in the first.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I just realized
A.J. Cole is still out there, too
DAMN!!
Are the Jays gonna take ANY bats in this mofo?
Adeiny
does buy them a bit of a pass for a hint. And they did just turf some Roy fellow for hitting prospects.
by Johnny Tuttle on Jun 8, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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