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I pick for the Shadow Twins at 21. Like the real Twins, I am leaning to pitching, and like the real Twins I want someone like Alex Wimmers. If he's there and they pick him, I will stick with that choice.

If Wimmers is not there, I'm not sure what direction I will go. I really love Eibner, but I don't know if the real Twins do as much as I do. I like Seth Blair a lot but that might be a slight overdraft. I am not enamored of the high school or college hitters likely available in that slot, and I won't touch Ranaudo even with the Kyle Gibson precedent. At least one of the high school upside arms will be there. I'd nab Whitson if he fell that far. If Wimmers isn't there and it came down to A.J. Cole, Eibner, or whoever the Twins pick in real life, it would be a tough call.


Leaving what the real Twins might do out of it, let's say Wimmers is gone, and I boil it down to Cole, Eibner, Loux, or Wojechowski? Who would you pick of that quartet?

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I’d take Eibner.

Personally I think Mike Foltynewicz feels much more like a Twins pick than Cole. Power arm who gets lots of groundballs, should have pretty good command. Midwest guy.

by mrkupe on Jun 7, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

In Order

1) AJ Cole: Monster upside and well worth the 21st selection. Supposedly a slot sign.
2) Brett Eibner: Pretty good upside for a college pitcher. He’s a close 2nd.
3) Barret Loux: I think you are definitely getting at least a back of the rotation big league starter.
4) Asher Wojciechowski: BA calls his slider plus but it’s average to slightly above average just about everywhere else. I’d say he’s a one and a half pitch pitcher and greatly overrated.

It sounds like Dylan Covey is slipping a little bit as well. I’d be surprised if he makes it out of the top 20 but he’d top the list.
Brandon Workman is another decent option.

by UncleBuck44 on Jun 7, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I tend to lean prep

So I would probably do AJ Cole. I think I might be one of the few that like Eibner more as an OF than a pitcher. If Covey or Whitson fall though they should be the pick.

As a side note I saw you do the shadow draft last year and now this will be my second shadow draft for the Cubs.

McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.

by tj.hendricks on Jun 7, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Loux

yeah, he’s a favorite of mine.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 7, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough

Loux and Wojciechowski are the most similar to Wimmers if they’re drafting that profile, and if pushed I might go Loux at this point over Wojcie. Cole and Eibner are good ceiling picks though. Four solid, and differentiated, players.

by blackoutyears on Jun 7, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

more

I don’t know why, but there is just something missing for me when it comes to Woj. Maybe I just don’t like spelling his name, but I’m leaning away from him.

So right now it looks like this.

WImmers if there.
Cole or Eibner or Loux if not there.

Cole: other than Whitson, he is my favorite high school arm.
Eibner: love the two-way athleticism and I think he’s a great prospect as a hitter too.
Loux: underrated guy, great performance, good stuff.

All four of these guys have the “positive intuition” feeling for me.
Loux has outstanding performance metrics. Eibner’s are a bit weird because of his two-way nature but he’s made a lot of progress.

Tough. tough.Glad it is only Shadow money and pride on the line.

by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Shadow pride

I’m liking that. And I’m oppo on Wojcie. My intuition is positive on him, but then I’ve been practicing his name for months so I’m probably just looking for a reason to show off my chops. I’m actually a little leery of Loux despite agreeing with everything you say about him. I give him the edge over Wojcie for consistently excellent performance against better comp and for having a full complement of pitches. No explaining why the slightly negative feeling. That’s why it’s intuition I suppose.

by blackoutyears on Jun 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

TV

I just remembered that my cable company doesn’t carry the MLB channel.

Does anyone know if ESPN will be broadcasting the draft live?

by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

no

but I think it will be simulcasted on MLB.com. not 100% sure on that but they’ve done it in the past.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 7, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

on line

I guess I’ll just have to watch it on line, but i hate on line tV….it is often unreliable esp. when traffic is heavy.

by John Sickels on Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to hear this, John

One of the few times that I’ve actually stopped actively disliking Time Warner was when I found out MLBN was included in my basic package.

Has anyone heard if any players will be attending this year, or did the highly uncomfortable situation last eyar with Mike Trout and family chill that?

by blackoutyears on Jun 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll throw in a vote for Wojo here

Talent-wise, it’s probably Cole/Eibner/Wojo/Loux, but 1) Cole also has the most variability, and 2) I don’t think the talent drop-off from Eibner to Wojo makes up for the difference in signability.

by AndrewTorrez on Jun 7, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

my personal big board for Twins

I have 10-12 guys left off that I think have NO-SHOT of dropping to Twins at #21

1. Alex Wimmers
2. Justin O’Conner
3. Brett Eibner
4. Josh Sale / would love CHIRS SALE – lol
5. Stetson Allie
6. Asher Wojochjeski (miss-spelled)
7. Derek McGuire
8. Dylan Covey
9. Brandon Workman
10. Sammy Solis/ Christian Colon/ Mike Kvasnicka/ Ken Harvey/ Loux

Austin Wilson shouldn’t go this high…… I think Kolbrin Vitek is a reasonable possiblitly as well

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 7, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

WImmers or O'Conner

Look like the best options of those left
Not sure Allie would make it past Florida and I do not like Cox at all

by mtk52983 on Jun 7, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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