Mike Stanton to make MLB Debut Tuesday
by Yeroc Keep on Jun 6, 2010 5:25 PM EDT
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PrintMike Stanton will join the Marlins on Tuesday in Philadelphia, according to Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald.
Stanton was not in the lineup for Double-A Jacksonville on Sunday, making this all but a foregone conclusion. He will likely make his major league debut on Tuesday against Phillies starting pitcher Kyle Kendrick. Stanton has produced a .311/.411/.726 line with 21 home runs in just 52 games at Double-A, but he isn't a finished product just yet. The precocious young slugger is strikeout prone and could post a mediocre batting average initially. His fantastic power output should more than make up for it in fantasy, however, until his strike zone control catches up to everything else.
Finally. I can't wait to see this dude in the show. I bet he crushes a Kyle Kendrick heater 400+!!!
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Not a smart move in my opinion...
he is going to strikeout a ton and they are probably gonna have to send him back to triple A at some point. He is no Jason Heyward.
ETHAN MARTIN!!!!
The Marlins have been notorious for skipping prospects over AAA
It made more sense when their AAA affiliate was Alberquerque, which has a crazy hitter’s park, not quite as much now that they’re in NO.
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Strasburg and Stanton on the same day
sweetness
But I agree with joegonzo, he should have spent some time in AAA
everybody loves it until they fail
Does anybody remember “Happy Matt Wieters Day!” on Baseball America?
And now look at Wieters. He’s a shell of his former self, his wife and kids left him, he’s been laid off at the factory, he’s grown paunchy and his Donruss Elite Extra cards are no longer as desirable as they once were.
This is what Baseball America does to people. Remember that the next time you’re walking down the streets of Baltimore and Matt Wieters comes up to you to ask you for a buck fifty so he can buy a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts.
by mrkupe on Jun 6, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
yeah
he’s all washed up
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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I am assuming this means the end of Maybin.
What do the Marlins do with him. I assume Ross will take over center.
Do you send Maybin to the bench? Send him down to AAA? Trade him?
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Never liked Maybin
high GB% and BABIP in the minors overrated him big time. I didn’t like Stanton much in the offseason and while he’s doing good for now. I can see him going Wood or Davis on us.
Maybin's probably the best example of how NOT handle toolsy-yet-extremely raw high schoolers.
It’s sad because I really like Maybin but I don’t think he’ll ever end up even coming close to realizing his potential.
Stanton
Saw this guy in ‘08 at the SAL All-Star game. He wasn’t chosen for the game, but he took part in the HR derby. You should’ve seen the HRs this guy hit. Even then I knew he was for real. And I understand there are a LOT of doubters out there. I live near the Marlins’ High-A affiliate in Jupiter. I can’t tell you how many times I’d wait for Stanton after a game (to talk to him, get an autograph, etc.). EVERY SINGLE GAME Stanton was the last guy out of the clubhouse. I’ve been watching baseball religiously for at least 25 years and I can’t ever recall a player working this hard. This guy refuses to fail.
Hah
That sure as hell isn’t how he acted in AA. I waited outside the Tennessee Smokies game for an autograph with my brother 2 1/2 weeks ago. I got there before anybody left the clubhouse, and didn’t leave until the bus pulled away. He never came out that door. He snuck out to avoid to 15 autograph seekers. I was told by somebody else that he did the same in the other 3 games of the series. Classy!
or maybe he was still in there watching film or taking some swings....
perhaps working out…
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by billybeingbilly on Jun 8, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a good idea IMO
give strikeout-prone prospects time to adjust at each level. I think he’s going to mix in a few bombs with a lot of strikeouts. You just hope that if he has early struggles it doesn’t shake his confidence moving forward.
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Or maybe he'll go all Ryan Howard on us?
Who knows?
I tend to agree, though, guys with high K rates always worry me.
However, there are probably things a lot of these teams know about players’ swings and weaknesses then I learn by just looking at stats. There is obviously something that separates some guys with high K rates in terms of how well they can succeed in the majors and how much their high K rate increases when they reach there. Maybe the Marlins know that Stanton can handle making enough contact in the bigs and make the adjustments to not see his K rate rise too much.
Ryan Howard got 384 PAs in AAA
The Phils followed the developmental path that was385 is suggesting the Marlins should follow in his post.
Not sure I see your point
was385 said high strikeout hitters should be given time to adjust to each level, oplaid said “or maybe he’ll go all Ryan Howard on us,” then I pointed out that Howard followed the path that was385 suggested.
No one, other than you, mentioned age at any point in this discussion. And how does the fact that Stanton is younger make it better for him to skip AAA?
For those of you naysaying the move
Stanton is replacing Maybin in the lineup. While I think he could have undoubtedly used some Triple-A time under his belt, do you really think he can’t best Maybin’s putrid .246/.311/.376/.686 line? Because if he can, particularly if he can OPS around .800 while doing it, the Marlins have every reason to bring him up considering they’re contending.
A few problems here
The Marlins defense will take a hit by replacing Maybin with Stanton, so Stanton does need to best Maybin’s line by a decent amount. Second, Maybin actually projects to best that line by a decent amount going forward, which moves the bar for Stanton up higher. Third, if you’re expecting an OPS around .800 from Stanton, you’re probably going to be disappointed. Finally, it shouldn’t just be about this season. If bringing up Stanton now will screw up his development and lead to lesser production in 2011, as well as possibly affecting subsequent years, you probably. shouldn’t do it
Perhaps
But…
1) Defense is definitely a legit argument, but with Maybin still available off the bench to double switch in, I don’t think it’s as much of an issue.
2) Maybin may project to best that line, but he’s been pretty bad at the major league level up to this point. When do we stop projecting and accept the possibility that what we see is what we get?
3) I don’t think it’s a stretch to think that a guy OPSing 1.167 in Double-A can come up and OPS around .800. If he proves terrible, you can always send him back down. I know OPS is not the end-all, be-all, it’s just an easy shorthand.
As for screwing up his development, I don’t think this happens too often with elite hitting prospects who have an ability to draw a walk.
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1) Not necessarily an issue, just a reason that Stanton has to outperform Maybin’s line for this to be worthwhile
2) I’m not expecting a huge jump the rest of the year, but I don’t expect him to continue being quite this bad. We also don’t have a big sample size yet, less than 500 PAs, so its not close to time to think what we’re currently seeing is what we get.
3) Very few guys his age have ever OPSed around .800 and his flaws are still pretty glaring even at AA. He strikes out too much and he struggles with good breaking balls (a pitch every pitcher he’s going to see in the majors will have). I have no doubt he’ll hit his fair share of HR, but I could also see him batting .200-.220.
4) I’m not saying it will completely screw up his development and keep him from ever being a good player, I just think it could keep him from playing quite as well for a year or three. I also worry the walk rate will nosedive once he starts facing better pitchers, but we’ll see soon enough on that front.
This
I’m very much against this move for the reasons outlined by nixa37. Stanton could use a good dose of AAA to face pitchers that know how to pitch a better than kids in AA do. He could well surprise us all, but I see struggles ahead and it could just push his timetable back a year or two because of skipping AAA.
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One statistically interesting thing I've noticed about Stanton's strikeouts
Is that his strikeout rate is the highest in the 1st, 7th, and 8th innings while his walk rates are the highest in the 3rd-6th innings. I’d be less encouraged if he showed no kind of deviation in rates across innings and he was just hacking away but this suggests he’s making critical in-game adjustments after seeing pitchers the first time around.
If you're talking just this season
Then I’m screaming sample size.
Well, yeah, obviously SSS caveats apply
but, considering this is in line with some scouting reports, it’s still an interesting observation.
It’s a bit difficult to use career splits seeing as how pitcher usage is different between levels.
it also suggests
The minor league starting pitching flotsam he’s facing tires in the middle innings and can’t hit their spots. That won’t be true in the majors.
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