MiLB 6/6
by daveh33 on Jun 6, 2010 2:40 PM EDT
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PrintAneury Rodriguez
Sean West vs. Jay Jackson
Trevor Reckling
Hector Noesi
David Bromberg
Nick Hagadone
Erik Cordier vs. Mauricio Robles
Austin Bibens-Dirkx
Blake Beavan
Tyler Chatwood
John Lamb
Stolmy Pimentel
Liam Hendriks
Jacob Turner
Kyle Heckathorn
Mike Belfiore
Fabio Martinez
Robbie Ross
those are the guys I know are going. any others I have missed?
Wil Myers is getting the day off. :'-( , so there goes 5% of my excitement for the day.
all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy. all work and no play makes Wil a dull boy.
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looks like Stanton is getting called up
rumors abound and he’s not in the Jacksonville lineup today.
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MLBtraderumors has the links.
i agree it seems premature. think he’ll hit for some power but I’m not confident that he’ll hit more than .230 or so at first.
baseball rules.
Supposed to go to the show
sometime this week, according to Ken Rosenthal the other day. I certainly don’t agree with that move, but what can you do.
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Stanton
joining the team on tuesday for the phillies series
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Jun 6, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd have to say
it’s far more likely that he’ll replace werth after this year
IMO
The daily milb thread is something that I am sure a lot of people look forward to when coming to this site. I like that fact that its rec’d and at the top of the list rather than having to sort through meaningless MOD draft threads, among others.
JOSH THOLE > carlos santana
by Dewey Finn on Jun 6, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
same.
especially with all the mod threads still cluttering it up… its nice to see the daily thread at the top
+1
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Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill
Now that the Mock Draft is over
it’s probably not as necessary, but I don’t see the harm in it. The big thing is whoever rec’s it needs to unrec it after a day or two so we don’t end up with 5 of them in the Recc’ed area.
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you sometimes get 4-5
days worth of conversation on some of the topics so that sometimes poses a problem
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn't be as much of one now though
with no more MOD threads to clutter up the FanPost section. I mean you set your list to 50 and you have posts going back 8 days WITH half or so of them being MOD’s.
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My issue with it is this:
I look forward to these as much as the next person. They’re useful, and admittedly provide a great service to anyone just looking for notable performances.
That being said: The rec’d posts (and this is an issue that I had way back when with everyone mockingly recc-ing Dewey’s posts) should be a place for actual deserving content, things that take actual work and time to present. By having these every day, it means that, by default, any actually deservedly rec’d post will only be up there for 3-4 days, because all the rec’d daily posts will push it out. As someone who does occasionally try to put together interesting, discussion-producing posts (though I haven’t done so recently), I believe that’s somewhat problematic.
If this were just to keep the dailies at the top of the MOD threads, that’s perfectly fine, but even then, these dailies are only really useful for 24 hours anyway, and we haven’t had enough MOD threads to really push a daily thread out in its relevant timespan, other than when they first flew in like wildfire. The un-recc-ing is a great idea, and I remember that was the same principle guiding the community ranking threads, but nobody follows it. It’s the reason why we have a daily from 3 days ago remaining rec’d right now.
Anyway, just my $.02, but I don’t see the point in recc-ing these if there’s not even enough posts to push it out of sight in its relevant timespan.
by RedSoxFaithful on Jun 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Liam Hendriks
Another solid
7 inn
0 runs
6 hits
4 K’s
1 BB
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
1 more inning in the books
1 more hit
1 more K
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Son of Sam
5 ip, 2 h, 1 er, 2 bb, 9 k
in progress. Carolina League hasn’t been too much of a challenge yet for him.
baseball rules.
final line
6 ip, 2 h, 1 r, 2 bb, 9 k
and a pickoff, which is becoming a norm for him.
baseball rules.
Other Arms and Reese Havens
David Havens hit another bomb…picking up more and more steam
Henderson Alvarez: 6INN 5K 2BB 7H 1ER
Jorge Bucardo
Jeff Locke: 6INN 8K 0BB 3H 2ER
Wilking Rodriguez
I drink your milkshake! I drink it up! Well Mr. Plainview, Devin Mesoraco and I drank lots of milkshakes, and we will drink yours too!
Dewey, according to you, the Mets in 2013 will look like MLB2k10 when you turn trade override on
and I’m a mets fan
You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
Frederick0220
Thole and Havens
Thole has bounced back nicely from his April slump, although he’s a litle hurt right now. And Havens has been everything you could ask for this year.
I wonder if
the fish Jesus ate with his disciples was actually “Trout”?
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 6, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
surely not
they ate holy mackerel
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
disaster season for the Flying Squirrels outfield prospects
Neal, if fact, is not real
Kieschnick 0-fer last 34 before being placed on 7-DL
Ford, guess there was a reason he played 3 season at A+
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 6, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
scary, but he still has a higher BA than Aaron Rowand, who Bruce Bochy refuses to bench
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 6, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Locke
6 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 0 BB, 8 K’s….
Besides his last two outings before today, Locke has been tremendous in the FSL for Bradenton. He will probably be moved to AA and Altoona in the next month, possibly sooner.
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Jun 6, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
and
I am sorry for killing your childhood, but you reposted my Jeff Locke line!! hahah j/k brother
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by ChalupaCabrera on Jun 6, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well played.....
My bad, didn’t see it – as he was not listed in the first post about who was pitching.
I hate you, Cabrera…..(j/k….sort of)
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Jun 6, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Robles
What are your guys’ thoughts on him? I’m thinking of doing a short piece on him soon. Just turned 21 and more than holding his own at AA, although a bit small. Word is, his change is disgustingly good, with a plus FB, and developing power curve.
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interesting player
Lefties with serious changeups always get my attention. Would love to know exactly how tall he is . . .pitchers almost always get listed taller than they really are, and at a listed 5’10", I’d begin to wonder a little . . .
Did anybody see that Lawrie went 4/5 for yesterday?
His OPS is now .810
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Fabio
The madness continues:
5IP 5HA 4ER 5BB 7K’s…the stuff is as good as it gets [imo] just really needs to harness the command or he’s going to kill someone.
Dustin{professional hitter type}Ackley
2-3 1 more free pass
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
make that
2 more walks
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
40/27
walks to strikeouts now
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I can think of a few players who might challenge that
I’m actually working on a top predraft list right now.
don't know
He’s a Grade A prospect right now, don’t have too many of those this year.
FYI, in a BA chat the other day, one of their guys mentioned that Trout would be top 20 right now at the very least, and even that would be conservative.
I’ve got it as 1. Stras 2. Santana (don’t buy the glove, but will be a fine 3B) 3. Brown 4. Trout 5. Stanton for the moment.
i said, "come tuesday"
ie- not including Stras and Stanton… see my post below… Trout is close to my top 5. didn’t even realize it.
oh, that's fair
I’m still including them for rookie purposes for the moment, but if I’m nice I’ll add a couple of extra names to the list to make everybody happy.
Bat Only?
I think it’s a legit debate at this point.
If you include defensive value though this is a pretty tough sell…
maybe
I think Trout grades out as a better pure hitter, makes more contact. Decker has more power. Would still probably take Trout there.
But if you look at it bat only, it’s not really a fair comparison at all. Trout is an ultra-fast center fielder. Decker is a corner outfielder at best, and by the time he reaches the majors, I’m not even sure you’ll be able to say that much. Just a huge difference in their value, and you have to take their bats in their respective contexts.
oh, lol
Sorry, somebody else mentioned Decker and I was thinking of him. Let me do that again for Singleton.
Couldn’t do it for Singleton either. He’s even more limited defensively than Decker, as he is already a first baseman . . .the defensive adjustments alone would mean that Singleton would have to be perhaps the greatest minor league hitter of all time to equal what Trout has been this year.
But if we take things out of context . . .maybe for Singleton. Trout’s numbers in pro ball have been utterly staggering. Singleton has a better eye, more raw power, maybe you give him the edge there. But it’s close enough to the point where I wouldn’t even bothering making the comp, because the positional values are so different.
it hardly matters
it goes like:
trout>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>decker>singleton
there is such a sizable gap there it’s hardly worth an argument
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Wilmer Font
5 IP, 6 H, 0 ER, 2 BB, 7 SO.
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Low A or High A
I forgot.
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Jorge Bucardo
8.0 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, 12-6 GO-FO
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 6, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
he has a .500 obp. .600 slugging
41 walks with just 32 k’s. only 5 hr’s but 12 sbs. he supposedly has good defense too, just needs add some pop i suppose. he is 6’5", 195 so I could see that happening.
rough draft: top 20 come Tuesday
1. Dustin Ackley
2. Carlos Santana
3. Dom Brown
4. Julio Teheran
5. Jeremy Hellickson
6. Aroldis CHapman
7. Desmond Jennings
8. Mike Trout [yeah kupe, guess he’s not far off… room at the top with Stras/Posey/Stanton gone]
9. Mike Moustakas
10. Wil Myers
11. Pedro Alvarez
12. Martin Perez
13. Jesus Montero
14. Mike Montgomery
15. Logan Morrison
16. Tyler Matzek
17. Dee Gordon
18. Jacob Turner
19. Lonnie Chisenhall
20. Freddie Freeman
no stanton
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I see
got em gone
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I would put
Jennings above Dom right now.
Side note: I think a lot of people are going to be over-reacting to Montero first two months in AAA…
uh, I wouldn't
Jennings . . .hurt, not showing power. Pretty disappointing.
Like the list Dave
but you’d really have Taillon ahead of Matzek and Turner? And potentially ahead of Perez and Monty?
good point
I actually think I’d need to see what Taillon can do in a few milb starts before I put him ahead of the names you mentioned… but I really think he’s a big talent.
Jaff Decker
in spite of the terrible start, sniffs a couple 2011 top 20 lists.
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 20... in the Cal League maybe
I don’t think there’s anything that he could conceivably do to make my top 20 overall.
just
get on track and perform like he did in 09’
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No
He’d still have the same question marks regarding his body and his future defensive value as he did entering the season. Hitting well in the Cal league would do little to change his stock (for me at least).
I can name 3 hitters
with bad bodies in the Majors that are top tier hitters. He’s a baseball player not an athlete
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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with that
I do too, but despite the injury, the slow start, and the bad body label. I think he can be a special kind of hitter
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
won't be the first time I'm
wrong
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you think
the Pirates might be desperate at some point and just call up Pedro? Where would you rank Travis d’Arnaud?
they'd have to platoon him
"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."
by fourfingerwoo on Jun 6, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Why's that?
He’s hitting LHP better than RHP as of now.
by CabreraKilledMyChildhood on Jun 6, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate The Ack Placement
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
John Jaso
.888 OPS and 11/19 K-BB ratio in 34 games in the majors this year
Can somebody tell me why he wasn’t a highly ranked prospect after he went .316/. 408/.484 with 49/59 K-BB in AA in ’07? Pretty Damn nice for a catcher
He's Daveh's Guy.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
That's Dewey.
My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
Grant Green
4/5 (2)2B K
Certainly has been an interesting year so far for Grant Green. I’m hoping for some updated reports on his defense soon.
just another reason
why we don’t grade/rank players after two months
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I like to wait
until prospects have spent 5-6 years in the majors before I grade them . . . much better accuracy . . .
I'm more on board with the "wait til they retire" mentality
gives you the best opportunity to make accurate decisions.
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Gotta disagree JD
There isn’t anything wrong with grading/ranking players now, as long as you use all of the data/scouting info on a player and not just this two month sample as your only data. Two months isn’t enough to truly change opinions too drastically, but it can easily help verify things we believed to be true about prospects, both positively and negatively. I know for myself in the grade change thread almost every single grade change for me is only a half/third of a grade, like a B to B+ or C+ to B-, etc. I can even buy a two notch jump for a guy in the case of a toolsy type showing translation of tools to skills or refinement of a thrower to a pitcher for raw arms.
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idk
There isn’t a problem with evaluating players after that time. But a player’s stock, at least in my opinion, isn’t changing dramatically based off two months of play. Again, there are outliers, but to me, it is ridiculous to throw out a few years worth of data based on a few good months.
One name that comes to mind is Moustakas. He has a great draft pedigree, and the early showing has been great, but He isn’t a top 10 prospect all of a sudden because of two months. If he does it for a full year that’s different story.
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who could forget?
He passed up a football scholarship out of HS to Florida State, I believe, to play baseball.
Interesting to see how it ended up working out pretty well for him all things considered.
Moose
held down for four AB’s (kinda, two fly balls to warning track), but 5th AB doubled off the wall in CF to clear bases.
baseball rules.
Jason Castro
2-4 with a HR. Hasn’t shown much power so far, but has a 15.8 BB% and 12.2 K% (OBP around .400) so a he’s looking good overall.
Myke Jones
The Braves SS isn’t a sexy name and he is old for the league but he posted .344 OPS in April then nearly tripled that with a .921 in May and has been even hotter in June so far.
I'm pretty sure Mike Jones is one of the sexiest names in the biz
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