MiLB 6/26
by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT
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Our notable probables today, courtesy of minorleaguesplits.com:
Matthew Maloney for AAA Louisville (Reds)
Scott Barnes for AA Akron (Indians), recently mentioned on this very site
Tim Alderson for AA Altoona (Pirates)
Casey Kelly for AA Portland (Red Sox), but I believe Kyle Gibson pitched yesterday so that matchup is incorrect
Chris Withrow for AA Chattanooga (Dodgers)
Carlos Hernandez for AA Midland (A's) vs. Wynn Pelzer for AA San Antonio (Padres), I'll be at this game to catch the two starters for these teams that I have not seen pitch
Jon Michael Redding for A+ Inland Empire (Dodgers)
Eric Surkamp for A+ San Jose (Giants)
Ross Seaton for A+ Lancaster (Astros)
Liam Hendricks for A+ Fort Myers (Twins)
Trevor May for A+ Clearwater (Phillies)
B.J. Hermsen for Low A Beloit (Twins)
Kyle Lobstein for Low A Bowling Green (Rays)
Keaton Hayenga for Low A Burlington (Royals) vs. Jake Odorizzi for Low A Wisconsin (Brewers)
J.C. Sulbaran for Low A Dayton (Reds)
Kendal Volz for Low A Greenville (Red Sox)
Robbie Ross for Low A Hickory (Rangers)
Jarrad Cosart for Low A Lakewood (Phillies)
Chad James for Low A Greensboro (Marlins)
Austin Kirk for Short-season Boise (Cubs)
Jacob Petricka for Short-season Bristol (White Sox)
Daniel Tuttle for Short-season Billings (Reds) vs. Patrick Schuster for Short-season Missoula (Dbacks)
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apparently Tyler Chatwood was promoted and I totally missed it
second start at AA tonight.
baseball rules.
Madbum 2010 MLB Debut Tonight
Madison Bumgarner is starting for SF tonight against the Red Sox and Posey is going to get the start at catcher. Only his 2nd start there since he’s been called up.
Same guy, new name.
4 ER
Gave up 4 ER in the 1st inning. Have to see if he can settle down now.
Pulled His Hammy
He singled off Bumdiggedty and then pulled his hammy running to second on a double play ground ball. Hopefully it’s just a tweak and it’s not too serious.
Same guy, new name.
by stillredsoxfan on Jun 26, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I like you
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That's Nice
I think I’m not who you think I am. At least that’s what I think I think.
Same guy, new name.
by stillredsoxfan on Jun 26, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's a let down
Regardless, not great to hear about butt-holz
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Butt-holz--HA!
You should get that joke published.
Come again?
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Bumgarden
He’s doing better. Now through 6IP with 4ER on 5H 1BB 4K. Since the 2nd he’s been pretty good against a pretty good lineup.
He Looks Okay
If not for the 2 meatballs he might be up 1-0. Buchholz actually has a hyper-extended knee and not a hamstring injury. Supposedly according to Francona via the announcers it’s not serious.
Same guy, new name.
by stillredsoxfan on Jun 26, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Brackman pitch at Trenton???
Fat man is no more,
Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill
Wasn't the best start
But he clearly gives the Royals another impressive arm. They could have a monster pitching staff soon with Greinke, Hochevar, Montgomery, Lamb, Melville, Dwyer, Duffy, Crow, Arguelles and Sample.
For all the bad things that Dayton Moore has done with the Royals, he’s managed to build up quite the farm system through the draft. He’d be a great GM if he was as good at everything else as he is at identifying talent in the draft.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 26, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
With 2-3 or even 4 more AB
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 26, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
remaining, Appy League OF Oswaldo Arcia
is already 2-2, 2B , 1 RBI , 1 Run scored
Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 26, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Casey Kelley
5 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 6 K’s.
4 Groundouts-4 Flyouts as well.
When life gives you questions, Google has answers.
had the K's just not a good start
Where was his Velocity at?
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 26, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
according to the stadium gun
it was from 89-93 with 2 94’s. He was having trouble commanding his secondary stuff, especially the curve. Got a few K’s with the changeup.
Braves
Randall Delgado – 5IP, 5H, 5R(all earned), 1BB, 4K, 1HBP, 1HR
David Filak, 2010 4th rd pk – 3IP, 0H, 0R, 3BB, 3K
Bumgarner
Ended the day with 7 IP, 5 K, 1BB, 5 H, 2 HR, 4 R/ER. Not bad at all. It’ll be interesting to see what PitchFX has to say.
That's so weird!
So many people SWORE he was low to mid 90’s!
PitchFX must be messed up!
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middle of the order 1-12, 3K, a seeing eye single by Beltre
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 26, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
http://tinyurl.com/2e8597v <<PitchFX data. Looks like he was throwing low to mid 90s in the first and sat around 90 for most of the game.
He did well after settling down
The BB to Hall right before the Cameron HR was probably the backbreaker
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Barnes, Alderson & MadBum all pitching today
Last year, as a Giants fan I would’ve been excited to see that. Oh well, I still hope Barnes and Alderson have good careers-obviously I’m rooting for MadBum
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John Bowker: One of the 3 best OF's on the Giants roster
Separate issue - Is anybody else having trouble with firstinning.com?
Over the last week, it’s been obscenely slow for me.
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+1
I can’t get firstinning to load at night either. When I check in the AM it works fine. If I had to guess, I think the server gets overloaded at night when a ton of people are checking scores.
Interesting
I haven’t noticed that – just that recently, whenever I try, it’s been a massive pain in the neck. I hope they fix it quickly, because I’m not too far from just shifting to milb.com
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by OldProspects on Jun 26, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Carlos Santana
Tonight went 1-3 with 2 walks, K and am RBI.
Came into the season with a .317 avg and a .431 OBP…and shows no signs of slowing. And I think his defense has been a little better than expected as well. I am very happy: With him, Kipnis, Chisenhall, Phelps and Henry the Tribe has a pretty OK future.
Off subject note: I collect autographs and really love Bowman Chrome certified autographs…and I can’t understand why Michael Stanton Chrome rookie card is still selling anywhere from $100-$150 (despite his 26 K’s in 58 AB with only a single HR to show for it), while Santana signed Chrome still only goes for maybe $45. Of the two Santana, I think, is the better short and long term prospect. I get hype, but still.
all of santana's autos run off the card
and he does have sterling autos.
if he didn’t have the sterling, and had done a better job signing the Chromes, I think they’d be closer to $70…. Stanton’s got that mad 80 power hype… but yes, he’s overpriced
Some guys....
Mike Trout 3-4, 2B, SB (37)
Jonathan Singleton 0-4, K
Miguel Sano 1-4, BB
Oswaldo Arcia 3-4, 2B, K
Eric Hosmer 2-5, 2B
Will Myers 2-4, 2B, BB, K, PB (17)
Jake Odorizzi 6 ip, 4 h, 0 bb, 10 k, 0 er
Deolis Guerra 6.1 ip, 9 h, 2 bb, 2 k, 4er
Lonnie Chisenhall 0-5, 2 k
Jesus Montero 3-4, HR , game still in progress
Sano is now something like .350/.450/.650. Damn. A few too many Ks, and obviously early returns, but it never hurts to hit like that.
For those interested, FDLS
Command wasn’t there, but FB sat 95-97, SL at 85-86 with some pretty awesome break.
by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 11:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wow.
This seems like legitimate closer stuff, even if they don’t want to risk moving him back to the rotation.
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by OldProspects on Jun 26, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
other fdls note
Somebody wanted to know how FDLS looks physically. He looks about the same as he did when he was in the Futures Game, maybe a bit thicker but not in a bad way. He is built for power. He might need to watch his conditioning as he gets older, but it isn’t a problem at present.
His biggest problem, as I mentioned in the initial scouting report, is that LH batters seem to pick up the ball pretty well off of him. RH batters struggle against him, and his command of the fastball can be impeccable against them (multiple perfectly placed 97 MPH fastball strikes).It’s worth noting that last night he threw an 88 MPH pitch that didn’t show much lateral movement and dropped in the zone, which was either a poor overthrown slider or the first evidence of a changeup from him.
He does have the best raw stuff on the Midland staff, with only RHP Neil Wagner coming close. RHP Justin Souza has a fastball that grades out lower but better command.
Not so hot
I’ll write a report, but 89-91, touching 92. Tipping his secondaries coming out of his windup. Pretty heavy effort guy. A bit of a mess at the moment.
by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Also worth noting in this game
Drew Cumberland got hit by a pitch and
for a moment appeared to be injured on his hand/wrist. The trainer came out, but he appeared to be okay and it didn’t look to be an issue for the remainder of the night.
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jacob Petricka
4 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 SO.
Seth Rosin
RHP Rookie Salem-Keizer Giants
Giants 4th round pick in 2010. Rosin was a starter at U of Minnesota and the organization is limiting his innings in relief this summer.
3 IP
1 H
0 ER
4 K
GO/FO: 4/1
Seems like the sort of guy who should beat up short-season competition
Especially if he’s doing it in relief.
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 12:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i’m assuming he’s going to be a starter or closer next season in San Jose
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 27, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the recap:
Walk
Single
Ground out
Fielders choice
Double
HBP
Single
Seems like a quick hook
Brett Jackson
3-3, 3 2B, 3 R, 1 BB
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Power
Jackson’s power has really been showing up recently. his ISO has gone up over 100 points in short time. I’m excited about his season, but I think it’s time for a AA showing
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Just how high would this guy have gone if the 2009 draft was held today?
He’s really taken to pro ball, should rate extremely well when we add everything up at the end of the year. Elite tools, strong performance . . .not a can’t miss guy, but a hell of a package.
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 1:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how exactly?
it’s not like they pushed him to AA at the start of the year. High A is a fair point for a first year pro out of college. They also didn’t push him up early in the year, when he wasn’t showing power. If anything, the Cubs have been very careful with him.
I think he's pointing to their nasty track record with top OF prospects
I mean, there’s Corey Patterson, of course. And then Felix Pie, too. And Ryan Harvey.
The Cubs just haven’t shown much in terms of properly developing toolsy young center fielders.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Charlie Culberson
3-4, .410/.452/.687 in June, has also been playing a solid 2B lately
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 27, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
an area where Charlie has improve dramatically is in lowering his strikeouts. Earlier in the season Charlie was striking out at over 22%. Charlie has only struck out 3 times in his last 50 or so PAs.
still want to see him walk more, and he might be just on an extended hot streak, but he’s looking more promising as a prospect
by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 27, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
LaPorta coming back
Indians traded Russell Branyan back to the Mariners for two prospects—SS Juan Diaz and OF Ezequiel Carrera.
Any info on these two guys?
The Indians have stated that LaPorta will be their 1B for the remainder of the season.
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Carrera Is likely a 4th outfielder
Above-average speed, Strong Plate skills, Contact guy. No power not expected to have much?
Juan Diaz is trash
by Marinerfanjake on Jun 27, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Ummm...
Not trash…… “Organizational Depth” LOL!
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Pedrlol Alvarez.
lol.
4 for his first 35. 17/2 K/BB ratio…. lol “top 5 prospect my ass” I think Tim Beckham would be putting up similar numbers in mlb… sss i know, but let me have my fun
pedro
in yo dreams pedro, in yo dreams
by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 27, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
WOAH
A top prospect struggling in his first taste of the majors?! UNHEARD OF
but the Rays should've picked him!
what were they thinking???? he could be helping them right now!!!
Have your fun...
But Stanton is putting put almost the same ratios in a larger sample, and so far, Pedro seems to need some adjustment to new levels.
But you know what, I’m convinced, Beckham was the best pick evar! No regrets!
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Stanton
we knew this would happen… he’s a young bat with a SO-weakness…. and he’s still way out-hitting Pedro… tho I’ll give pedrol another 25 ABs to see how he measures up to Stanton’s first 60 AB…
Beckham wasn’t the best pick ever, but there’s still no evidence that Alvarez or Posey is a better pick. this has been my point every single time its mentioned that “beckham sucks” … and yet it still comes up once a week
There's tons of evidence that Posey or Alvarez would've been a better pick
You just used like a few weeks worth of MLB performance from a rookie as your evidence that picking Beckham wasn’t a mistake, even in hindsight, so clearly your threshold for what’s credible evidence isn’t particularly high.
On one hand, you have Alvarez and Posey, who both played exceptionally in the upper minors before landing everyday jobs in the majors. On the other, you have Beckham, who’s currently batting .222/.305/.364 in Single-A with serious questions about his ability to stick at his primary position.
I like Beckham still, and clearly you do, too. But please stop acting like you’d still prefer to have Beckham struggling in Single-A than Posey competing for playing time in Tampa.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 27, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedro has struggled for the first ~100 ABs everytime he's been promoted
And everytime people start to question his bat, only to see him go on a streak. Will that happen in the majors? We don’t know, but it’s absolutely foolish to not give him ample time to show if he can.
Hell, even if Alvarez had a track record of starting out hot at a new level, I wouldn't be too worried yet
I mean, we’re talking about ten freaking games. Yeah, Alvarez has looked totally lost so far. But once again, it’s TEN games. Ten.
Let’s talk about this if he’s still having troubles in a couple weeks.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
even if he's still struggling in a couple weeks I won't be too worried about the bat
I’ve never been too high on Pedro since I believe him to be a defensive liability, but there isn’t a minor leaguer that I would put money on to have a higher probability of having a productive bat at the major league level.
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If Beckham stops sucking
it won’t come up once a week any longer.
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Honestly, I thought they brought Alvarez up too early. His K rate was still not good in AAA, but it seemed he was getting accustomed to playing in AAA, so I’m not surprised at his struggles…
I think maybe people may not understand your point, myself included. I don’t think anyone is saying Beckham is a definite bust, but I don’t think any objective observer could conclude that Beckham is currently the best player out of he, Alvarez and Posey.
If your point is that Tampa made the best pick at the time, and that Beckham has time to turn it around, then I don’t think anyone would disagree.
If you’re trying to say that Posey and Alvarez, to this point, haven’t been the stronger picks by showing stronger performance to date, then I think you’re not looking at the situation objectively.
Somehow the Beckham Debates are getting that distinctive Bumgarner Debate feel.
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beast, yr the only one who's looked at it rationally.
and you’ve made me realize i should cut down my argument to the core.
here it is:
+Posey and Alvarez are currently higher-rated prospects.
+they are higher on my personal list by less than 30 spots.
+the Rays did not draft Beckham based on where he would be ranked as a prospect in 2010.
+Beckham is 2-3 years younger than the others and is more raw. we all knew this.
+the arguments are brought up too often for something that doesn’t matter too much [ie- ~30 spots in a ranking]
+ppl constantly overlook that Beckham’s made big strides in power, patience, and defense this year [and despite a wrist injury] [he’s a top 50 prospect]
Okay, fair enough.
But you’re rating Beckham higher than pretty much everyone else, you’re pretty much giving him a total pass for his sub-par performance to date and you’re giving the older prospects minimal credit for their advantages in polish.
We all know that the Beckham pick was a perfectly fine pick when it was made. What we’re [I’m] trying to say is that it no longer looks like he was the best player on the board, which isn’t necessarily a poor pick on Tampa Bay’s part, it was merely some misevaluation, which happens constantly given the nature of young players.
Beckham WAS a perfectly acceptable No. 1 pick for Tampa. He just hasn’t developed as hoped yet, and it’s reasonable to wonder when it becomes appropriate to start asking some questions.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
"their advantages in polish"
they’re both college players. they damn sure better be more polished than the HS kid.
And they are.
What’s your point here? The polish is an advantage regardless.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
my point is, the Rays knew this.
they should be ranked higher than Beckham… they are both much more polished and at higher levels [both in MLB now]…. unless Beckham is a Heyward/Upton-type talent, what kind of numbers does he have to put up to outrank 2 big college bats?
No, they shouldn't be ranked higher necessarily
Because theoretically, Beckham’s superior upside would be able to outweigh the other players’ advantages. And clearly that’s what the Rays’ management believed when they picked him, because otherwise they presumably would’ve gone with a talent that was closer to the bigs.
I just don’t understand how you aren’t remotely worried about a 20-year-old in Single-A with a .219/.301/.360 line that isn’t distorted by weird luck on balls in play and a 30% strikeout rate. Those numbers are a problem.
Nobody is giving up on Beckham yet, but eventually you have to turn your tools into performance.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say...
he’d need to post numbers that put him close to the top of the league in which he’s playing. I can cut slack for the first year, but now he’s in his second year and is still struggling. Personally, I would’ve kept him in the SAL league this year.
Posey and Alvarez’s polish and advanced skills let them start higher in the minors, totally makes sense as you point out. They also were among the top performers in their leagues, which is what I’d expect from top draftees.
Beckham is pretty much failing across the board offensively, and from what I understand, defensively as well, if the rumors of a possible position switch are true. I’m not ready to give up on him, but he’s clearly not in the same league as those other two yet, and if he doesn’t turn it around soon, the bust label might begin to fit.
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nah
all these are rumors. everyone constantly says “rumors” with regards to his D… and when I ask for any legit reports from 2010, I get nothing.
it’s a big swirling pile of shit rumors. founded on old and lazy scouting reports from 2009.
as for his bat. beastball, this is the 37th time I’m saying this, but his BB% has nearly doubles, his ISOP is way way up, and his BABIP is still low. he has stolen more SBs already this year than last, and he was suffering from a wrist injury earlier this year.
this is my last post on tim beckham here until there are new scouting reports / video from 2010.
Huh?
2009: 6.3% BB%, 23.6% K%, .347 BABIP, .114 isolated power
2010: 10.0% BB%, 29.8% K%, .290 BABIP, .141 isolated power
At this point, you’re just making stuff up.
His walk rate has increased by 3.7%, which is nice, but not twice what it was last season; not to mention that his K rate has increased a good deal as well. And his ISO is way way up? You call an increase of 27 points way way up? Seriously?
And the low BABIP? What low BABIP? It was .347 last year and it’s .290 this year. That’s not that low.
He has more steals already this year? He had 13 last year and has 11 this year. His SB percentage still isn’t good either, at less than 70%.
Before you start demanding scouting reports, get your stats straight, and please don’t try making stuff up. Everyone can access that information, so it’s pretty easy to see when you’re stretching the truth.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
making stuff up?
i haven’t checked his stats in a week. iirc, he’s been slumping this week. this is just SSS… i apologize for not checking the day of…. as for the SBs, i mixed those up.
His BABIP has never been low, and he's still never had more steals than last season
Both of those statements simply weren’t accurate.
You’ve discussed Beckham A LOT in the past week, so the fact that you haven’t checked his numbers in that week is rather astonishing to me.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
semantics
he has 11 SBs, you don’t think he’s gonna pass 13?
his BABIP is below average. especially for a guy with some speed. quit acting like it isn’t.
Yeah, but you can't just make inaccurate facts
And expect to maintain your credibility.
In his minor league career, he’s got a .331 BABIP. That’s not low, at all.
And when it’s mid-June and you’re only 200-250 PA into a season, one week can actually have a pretty substantial effect on the numbers.
I just don’t understand why you’d spend hours arguing about Beckham but not take the 30 seconds to look up his numbers on MinorLeagueSplits.com
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by Satchel Price on Jun 29, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
also, re: checking his numbers in a week
one week’s worth of numbers doesn’t affect my opinion of a player. i’m not that fickle.
This will be my last post also...
Look, I understand you’re a fan, and so you have to have faith that your guy will break through. So that’s fine, I don’t expect you to be convinced, however…
It’s good he improved his numbers from last year, but that doesn’t make his numbers from this year good. It just makes certain aspects of his numbers better. It’s good to progress, but he’s still below average at this point, and in the end, that’s what matters most.
The only information I have is what I read, and I haven’t seen anyone say defense is a strength, but I have read that as he fills out he may have to change positions. We read and consider position changes for lots of other prospects, it’s not crap, it’s dealing with the information we have available. Could he stay at SS? Sure, why not? But at the same time, there are some who think he may move, and they can’t be ignored completely, can they?
Anyway, none of this changes my opinion, in order to be considered a top prospect, along with Posey and Alvarez, he’d need to be posting some of the best numbers in the league he’s playing. He isn’t, and so he shouldn’t rank with those guys.
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Heck even
Heyward is struggling! Almost every rookie seems to hit the wall at some point. Judge the guys after they have been in the league 4-5 years not 4-5 months.
richard alvarez
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not 18 yrs old yet
Not milb, but Trevor Cahill
What a huge surprise so far this season. I realized his FIP and xFIP are in the low-mid 4’s, but 7-2, 2.88 era is solid. For a recently turned 22 yr old, he is making improvements
His off speed stuff was nasty
as well as his breaking balls. He’s strung some great starts together.
i knew it
thuggin and buggin as predcited
by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 27, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
is it a huge surprise
just 18 months ago the debate was Anderson or Cahill. He’s doing better then expected for sure, but being a solid major league starter isn’t that shocking is it Mike.
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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 27, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
He has looked great in his last ~5 starts
The strikeouts are starting to come and it’s great news. People jumped off of this bandwagon ridiculously quickly.
The time in the minors did him some good
He has regained the confidence in his curve, which was his strikeout pitch prior to last year. I’m very glad to see it’s worked out for him, because I was skeptical of the way the A’s handled him last year.
http://bullpenbanter.com
His slider looks like a well-above average pitch as well
Across the board his stuff just looks really good
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SA/Midland update
As mentioned, got to see RHP Wynn Pelzer and LHP Carlos Hernandez, will definitely write a report on Pelzer, Hernandez would be by request.
I also got to see CF Blake Tekotte and SS Drew Cumberland, recently promoted to San Antonio from the Lake Elsinore squad. I’m willing to write reports on them right now, but it’s difficult to feel 100 percent confident in a one game look, obviously. I’m about 20-30% there with Tekotte and about 70-75% with Cumberland, so again, these will be by request for the moment (won’t be a problem if there’s demand). I won’t be seeing either of them again until early July, as I have moved on to Corpus Christi for the last two games of the Corpus Christi/Frisco series.
Carlos Hernandez
The easy and lazy comparison of him has been dallas braden. Fringy, below avg FB, solid breaking stuff. Local bay area guy, late round draft pick. He did impress over several levels last yr and now is repeating AA. Like braden, who i thought looked like a reliever at best a couple yrs ago and obviously exceeded expectations. Hernandez is rule 5 eligible this offseason.
by MagicMike23 on Jun 27, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
hernandez
Yeah, that is a lazy comp. He’s not Braden. FB 86-88, lots of first pitch strikes on the corners, SA wasn’t aggressive and gave him lots of good counts to work with. Nice changeup. Curveball is decent but a little erratic at times. I think he showed a slider a few times, although if I’m right on that it’s not much of a pitch. Too many hittable strikes.
oh, forgot to add
Arm slot is pretty low, gets some deception on LH batters.
any thoughts on cardenas?
Huge game last night. He’s obviously too good for AA at 22 yrs old. But since coming over from philly, 4 hr in 800+ab’s just isnt getting it done. Not sure where he fits in long term if at all , maybe trade bait?
by MagicMike23 on Jun 27, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of thoughts
He’s in the next writeup, along with Cory Luebke and James Darnell. But you hit on the big problem. Very good at some things, and underrated in a few respects. But a near zero for power at this point.
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd definitely love to see something on Tekotte
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Donovan Tate 0-4 3 K's
1/12 BB/K in his first 21 AB’s. I’m afraid he might be one of those football-baseball busts and won’t make it out of A-Ball. He’s going to regret going the baseball route i’m afraid.
Didn't he get paid $6 million?
You think he’ll regret that?
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jason McLeod is in his first year their Asst GM in charge of drafting
He was head of amateur scouting for the Red Sox from 2005-2009. I think they’re in good hands.
Well
I think his brain will thank him for all the concussions and trauma it’ll never have suffered.
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by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 28, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
relax....
You’re easily the most reactionary person I have ever encountered, anywhere. It’s 21 at bats. Let the guy play a season or three before we even utter the word bust. He’s a toolsy guy who needed time when he was drafted, and I doubt that much has changed since then being this is his first week in the minor leagues.
True but making it through the minors is tough even for elite raw talents. I’m not sure what kind of football player he could have been but his first contract could have dwarfed that signing bonus he got. I think Braves is a bit too quick with his assessment but I don’t think it’s that unreasonable to suggest he may regret taking $6 mill out of HS to play baseball perhaps passing up much more on the football field.
good night for Rockies catcher prospects
Mike McKenry 4-4, 2 HR
Wilin Rosario 2-4, 2 HR, 2 K
That's 10 HR in fifty games for Rosario
As a 21 yr old in the Texas League that kind of power is very rare. You can pretty much count on one thumb the number of players to hit more than 20 while being less than 22 years old (Colby Rasmus) in the TL in the last ten years, Rosario’s on a 25 HR pace right now. These two HR’s were at Springfield, where it’s a lot easier to hit them than other places in the TL, but it’s still very encouraging given his plus defense behind the plate and that he’s cut down his K rate while bumping his walk rate this year. He’s got much more potential than the “backup catcher” as Marc Hulet at FanGraphs put it, he’s very underrated.
Marc Hulet
Is like a replacement level analyst; you’d think fangraphs could find someone with more acumen. There are at least ten posters here that would be immediate upgrades.
David Phelps
6 IP, 0 R, 6 H, 2 BB, 7 K. He’s had some luck with BABIP, but this has been an incredibly successful transition to AA so far: 2.45 FIP, 6.7 BB%, 24.6 K%
At what point do we talk about him as a legitimate top-100 prospect?
Why is he a worse prospect than, say, Zach Britton?
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by OldProspects on Jun 27, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Because Britton's left-handed, a year younger, and has a track record of exceptional GB rates
And generally speaking, guys that have always been able to keep the ball on the ground and in the park have a pretty strong track record of succeeding in the majors. Getting groundballs translates to the big leagues much better than strikeouts.
Phelps is a good prospect and making the Top-100 wouldn’t be a travesty, but Britton is one of the best LHP prospects in the game right now.
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by Satchel Price on Jun 28, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Montero heating up a bit
apparently the yankees changed back his batting stance. Question is, WTF would you change his stance to begin with. This is why I hate when organizations mess up pitching motions and stances, there is a chance that you can screw up a player forever.
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Frankly, I fell behind with it. My bad. I’ll try to find myself to a wi-fi connection and post the Florida State League.
by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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