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Around SBN: What If This Is It For The Celtics? End Of An Era Looming

MiLB 6/25

Dom Brown was promoted to AAA today.  Andrew Brackman allegedly will start for AA Trenton tonight according to the local sports writers, but he's not on the probables yet. Starters on the schedule for today:

Daniel Hudson

Jeremy Hellickson

Carlos Carrasco

Travis Wood

Felix Doubront

Esmil Rogers

Madison Bumgarner

Michael Kirkman

Zach Stewart

Deolis Guerra

JC Ramirez

Chris Carpenter

Mike Minor

Jordan Lyles

Ethan Martin

Wilmer Font

Henderson Alvarez

Alexander Colome

Giovany Soto

Kyle Heckathorn

Manuel Rivera

Joe Weiland

Brooks Pounders

Adys Portillo

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Wow

Looks like a pretty stacked day. Should be fun

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by Mets2k9 on Jun 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

This is exciting. Makes up for yesterday :)

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to the threads that exist

Yesterday didn’t even happen. That’s some Twilight Zone stuff there

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by Mets2k9 on Jun 25, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Sam LeCure has some incriminating photos of Walt Jocketty

"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN

by hero66 on Jun 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't diss Matt Maloney

he is earning his roster spot too.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 25, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope Brackman does well at Trenton.

The Yankees system has so many bright spots right now and they seem like a top 10 system for sure ATM.

by schmosterballs92 on Jun 25, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

lollerz

at least Lassiter is the next Jeter. we have that to fall back on.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Jun 25, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Hellickson is starting tonight.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell

I was kind of hoping Hellboy would be pitching Sunday for Tampa.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

That would have been awesome. But, according to MILB’s main page, he goes tonight for Durham.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still see TBD on MiLB

Where are you looking?

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was on the main page earlier

Something about him going for his 10th win tonight

http://bullpenbanter.com

by gatling on Jun 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the main page for minorleaguebaseball.com

It has a featured article talking about him starting at 7:00 tonight.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I guess I never looked at the main page today. Just the “scoreboard”.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Why are there ever 6 recs on a daily thread? You only need 3 to hit the recommended area. Is 6 doing anything other than guaranteeing clutter?

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Recs=clutter?

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by Mets2k9 on Jun 25, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it either

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Recs—>more readers per rec’d story—>more comments on stories—> more arguments—> more clutter.

I feel that

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by Mets2k9 on Jun 25, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

It just knocks really interesting things like Kupe’s reports and some of the better top 50’s that I could imagine would be better than a 3 day old daily thread! :)

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

How does more than the necessary 3 rec’s to put the daily thread on the rec’d list=more readers per story? Are there people here who won’t read the daily thread if only 3 people rec it?

http://bullpenbanter.com

by gatling on Jun 25, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah

I almost said the same thing, but thought I had said enough as it was.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right

I was simply trying to make a little humorous logic. Mybust

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by Mets2k9 on Jun 25, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

To a degree

A daily thread from 4 days ago doesn’t have much business on the rec. section, at least in my opinion. But, even if it did, I still can’t fathom the logic behind the person who decides to be the 6th recommender. What does that serve? It isn’t a gripe, just a curiosity!

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair point.

For the record I don’t believe I’ve ever rec’d one since the draft, nor have I rec’d one after it’s been bumped. It’s not that hard to find em without out the mods.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of clutter

Maybe we should start a “Madison Bumgarner gameday thread”, every time he pitches. Keep the dead horse beating off of this thread.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

But...

We have to decide whether or not Bumgarner is the best prospect in baseball, or a fringe top 200 arm! I mean, God knows there are no other possibilities.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Left-handed specialist or best pitcher in baseball, seem like the only possible outcomes for his career.

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day."
-Frank Sinatra

by Kerm on Jun 25, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-5th starter at best or 1st ballot HOFer at worst!!!

by TimLaser and MattyC on Jun 25, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Jacobs

Not the football player! LOL

The Red Sox Jacobs, who was a over-slot pick last year.

I’ve been hearing really good things about him. Does anybody know anything about him?

by fawnsmets on Jun 25, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Josh Thole

Starting for the NY Mets tonight vs Slowey

Fat man is no more,
Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill

by Wilbur Wood on Jun 25, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

poor Slowey

JOSH THOLE > carlos santana

by Dewey Finn on Jun 25, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-for-2

With 2 fly balls to LF

Fat man is no more,
Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill

by Wilbur Wood on Jun 25, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there.

He still doesn’t look like a big leaguer.

by JD Sussman on Jun 26, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think these should be recommended anymore

I agree with a previous poster that these minor league gameday posts no longer should be recommended. From what I understand, the recommend option should be reserved for outstanding content, and while these are great, I don’t think they really qualify.

These were originally recommended to bump them up on the page because of all of the manager on duty posts, but that is no longer a problem. I think that things should return to the way were, reserving the recommend option for special content. Otherwise, it just becomes a tool to bump stuff up, which is not the appropriate use.

by jerryclore on Jun 25, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree in spirit,

but not in fact. We should rec these. For one day only. And there should never be any more than 3 recs – 4 is foolish. Anybody who rec’s a daily thread should immediately un-rec the following day. This way we get it to the front, where it needs to be, but it doesn’t become an issue.

I will be honest. The daily pages make this site unbeatable for me. It has the great content by Sickels, the enlightening commentary and posts by users, and then an unmatched (to my knowledge) daily thread that allows people to keep up with all of the top minor leaguers (and some gems).

By no means should these not be rec’ed, but we just have to stop being so foolish about how we do it.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Not a problem if people unrec the following day

"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN

by hero66 on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

too early to tell

More than anything else I’ll be curious to read scouting reports to see whether he looks likely to stay behind the plate. It’s certainly encouraging that he’s showing some in-game power already.

by jibs on Jun 25, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he obviously has some impressive tools

The power is obviously there, but whether he’s actually a catcher or not would seem to be a significant question mark.

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by Satchel Price on Jun 25, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth

Sanchez was considered to be a better defensive catcher than Montero when he was signed (albeit, not saying a whole lot)

http://www.theyankeeu.com

by lemonjello on Jun 25, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

take your pick

j singleton. j thole

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 26, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont do this to me

R.I.P. cwhitman412 & Frederick0220

by Dewey Finn on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm doing this to you

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

JS

God I hope Josh doesn’t read this.

R.I.P. cwhitman412 & Frederick0220

by Dewey Finn on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

There is a prospect that is somehow better than they might Tholmeister?

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 26, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Guys I have to be a whore, if you'll allow me.

I co-commish, a no salary cap dynasty league. It’s a 25mlb/25milb roster permanent keeper with a Point system based scoring system so everything matters. We are in are first year, and have hit a bump in the road. A “quiter”. And need an owner. It;s a CBS commish league but all fee’s are covered this year and every year on out{me and my boy foot the Bill}. You need to judge the team for yourself. Me I’m 0-11 and built for the future go figure. I hate to post like this, but I don’t want to create a thread for my “need” but I would like any of 35 guys here to join me.

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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 25, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

My email

Is turambar85@yahoo.com

Give ma a little more info, and I will look into it. I am in two money keeper leagues, one dynasty, and contract. 16 and 14 team leagues, in which I own a combined 29 minor leaguers.

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't feel bad about it

You’re a regular member of the community and you contribute quite a bit here. Fantasy leagues ads never really bother me at all, although when someone joins the site specifically to post a want ad it is a bit irritating. Sounds like an awesome league, never played CBS before. I wish I had the time to take on another league, but I run two of my own and play in a handful of others.

Good luck filling the spot!

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by gatling on Jun 25, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t feel bad about it
You’re a regular member of the community and you contribute quite a bit here. […] although when someone joins the site specifically to post a want ad it is a bit irritating.

my thoughts exactly

Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson

by gore51 on Jun 26, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

filled

but we have one more weak link, that my get the boot if he doesn’t get his act in gear and I’ll keep you in mind for sure monty.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Gibson

6IP 0R 4H 1BB 5SO

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

7GO/4FO

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ignore previous

8/5

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

question was that in AA or A+?????

also Eastern League vs. Florida State league?

but anyways Gibson isn’t even in the opening introduction in this thread of top starters going today!!!
even a BETTER day!

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

AA

Eastern League

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 26, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Jackson

HBP in 2nd inning and left game. Does anyone have any info on if there is an injury?

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Brackman is done

5 IP, 3 R (2 ER), 8 H (1 HR), 1 BB, 5 K, 8/2 GB/FB outs ratio. Mike Ashmore provided some updates on his twitter page:

Saw 90-94 on the FB, 85 on the slider, 76-77 on the curve. His curveball is pretty nasty…slider’s all right. Fastball is heavy, but not a ton of life on it…again, velo was 94-95 on FB. Brackman has been as high as 96 MPH, now…sitting low 90’s, though. Like the curveball a lot…command’s been better than I expected.

by jibs on Jun 25, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a pretty confusing report

So is he 90-94, 94-95, sitting low 90s and touching 96 . . .? Could be a little more clear.

In any case, that’s a respectable AA debut.

by mrkupe on Jun 25, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those were multiple tweets over the course of the game that got mashed up in my formatting.

by jibs on Jun 25, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cito Culver

0-3 in pro debut

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Jacob Marisnick

1-4 HR 2RBI BB SB

Jays 3rd rounder in ’09

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hellickson done

6 IP 4 H 1 R 0 ER 1 BB 7 K

call him up already

by walnut falcons on Jun 25, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Love The Trade When I Did

My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 25, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

remember, wade davis

was tearing up AAA last year too…you cant just assume Hellickson will be better than Davis if he gets promoted…not everyone it Lincecum/Stratsburg, most players need an adjusment period…

by miraclemets on Jun 26, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ben Revere

3-4 RBI CS

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 25, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

STUD

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaron miller dealing so far

4 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 4 K, 0 BB

announcer 2 radar readings were both on Ks… 89 and 90

by matthewmafa on Jun 25, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

btw this is his AA debut

and jerry sands who made his debut yesterday hit his 2nd homer today in 2 games…

so far 3 for 6 in AA with 2 homers a single and 3 Ks…

by matthewmafa on Jun 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

50% K Rating

Going to fail.

My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 25, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

not getting a lot of attention around here. i know those numbers were as a 22 year old in A ball, but he showed great power, plate discipline and speed. very impressed.

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by thecoolest on Jun 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus Montero teases again

3/4 so far with 2 doubles

JOSH THOLE > carlos santana

by Dewey Finn on Jun 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he'll be fine

Just the latest reminder that AAA is hard and is the best training any player can get for the major leagues.

by mrkupe on Jun 25, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

frankly

Everybody that’s good going straight from AA to the majors could be EVEN BETTER with AAA time. And a lot of guys who really struggle wouldn’t struggle nearly as much if they got even a couple of months there. I know it’s tempting when you have really talented kids in AA, but lots of the arms that you’ll find in AAA have a big league approach even if they don’t quite have the stuff. I still have a lot of confidence in Stanton and am not too worried about his long-term prognosis, but they’re certainly making it hard on him.

by mrkupe on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

thats why i loved what the indians did with santana, and what the phills will most likely do with dom brown

by miraclemets on Jun 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

brown

This is just my personal belief and I haven’t subjected it to serious inquiry, but AAA is usually the level where the really elite tools guys really get tested and are forced to develop their skills. It seems to be the “get off here” point for those truly rare athletes who can coast on their athleticism through the lower minors. So yeah, I’m glad to see that Brown is in AAA, and hopefully the Phillies will have the good sense to keep him there through June of next year, giving him a full season’s worth of AAA at bats and saving themselves more than a few bucks in the process.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the difference

Between a team desperate for production and a team that can afford to wait and develop properly.

by guru4u on Jun 26, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Teams spend a lot of time short changing themselves to avoid Super 2 status. They could certainly afford to short change themselves a little bit now to get better production for the next 6 years.

by Ophidian on Jun 28, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize

just how stellar Wieland’s walk rate was until I looked him up just now.

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by t ball on Jun 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bumgarner scratched...

sick, hurt, or callup?

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by koolkerns101 on Jun 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

there was some buzz about Bummy making a Saturday start vs the Evil Empire BoSox

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the game Jonathan Sanchez is pitching tonight vs BoSox it looks like Bummy is gonna owe Sanchez a dinner for getting him a Saturday start vs BoSox

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edwin Jackson RHP Arizona DBacks

has no-hitter thru 7 innings. While Jackson has surrendered 7 BBs and a HBP the Tampa Bay Rays have yet to get a knock.

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

no-no thru 8 innings. Jackson’s thrown 134 pitches

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations, Sir Edwin

Add Edwin Jackson to the list of MLB pitchers to throw a no-hiiter

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Hitter #5 This Season.

My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 25, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 walks and 1 HBP ......WOW

EVEN a bigger question though is what the hell is up with the Rays

any former Rays pitcher could go up agsint they’re offense and no-hit them right now

Just like R.A. Dickey and the Mets vs. Twins THANK GOD he isn’t facing them in this 3 game series altough Johan is up against PavStache tomorrow!!!! :)

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 25, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 walks, I think

Thanks MLB.tv on my Roku player for getting me to that game just in the nick of time!

by mrkupe on Jun 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

2008 playoffs

Looked pretty recovered

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Bursting on through Heaven's Door
Come on in, says Bill

by Wilbur Wood on Jun 25, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

.330 wOBA this year

not great, but I’ll take that from a CF with his potential and defensive skills

by Navi's_Navy on Jun 26, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

=7BB no hitter

thats an old school no-no

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by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oliver

Looked good against the Braves

by fawnsmets on Jun 25, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

STUDLY

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 25, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

filthy

JOSH THOLE > carlos santana

by Dewey Finn on Jun 25, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
BriGay'd Fo Lyfe.
New Minor League Site Soon!

by cwhitman412 on Jun 25, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

castro

unlike his brother from another mother (Starlin) this guy is Thugg’n & Bugg’n!

by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 26, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he gets the Latos treatment

and skips AAA. I have a suspicion that the Padres like to keep their top shelf pitching prospects away from the launching pad that is the PCL if they can help it.

by walnut falcons on Jun 26, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be a strange minor league career

1 full year at A, skipping A+, one full year in AA, and possibly skipping AAA. Not that I disagree with this, but just strange

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by OldProspects on Jun 26, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'd be okay

Castro likes to keep the ball low in the zone, so he should manage okay unless he starts making some mistakes with other parts of his game.

Maybe he makes a big jump next spring, but right now I’d project him to need a good dose of AAA time. He needs some time to work on putting the whole package together. Castro has good stuff, but it’s not a truly elite package.

by mrkupe on Jun 27, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lyles

5 IP | 9 H | 4 R | 4 ER | 2 BB | 6 SO

I don’t know if he is done or not. He’s at 87 pitches.

by Tex2044 on Jun 25, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

through 6

6 IP | 10 H | 4 R | 4 ER | 2 BB | 7 SO | 1 HR

by Tex2044 on Jun 25, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see the strikeouts are still up

Not worried about the hits/runs… sometimes you just get hit.

by OremLK on Jun 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

low minors catchers

Carlos Perez: 2/4 3B
Sebastian Valle: 1/3
Max Stassi: 3/4 CS
Luke Bailey: 0/2 BB HBP (2)K

How would everyone rank them? I think I’d go:

Stassi
Perez
Bailey
Valle

by Jeff Reese on Jun 25, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm...

Best career I see Bailey, although I wouldn’t rank him #1 right now.
Future Potential I see
Bailey, Stassi, Perez, Valle though I love Valle’s bat, he’s disappointed me this year.
Right now I see your order.

My Guys: Gillies, Pacheco, Drabek, Verlander, Ozuna, A Salcedo, S Rodriguez, and others.
BriGay'd Fo Lyfe.
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by cwhitman412 on Jun 25, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Valle coming into the year too

And I still think his bat can be quite good. His defense though, that’s what moves him to the bottom for me. I haven’t quite figured out what any of these guys are just yet. The only thing I can really say is that Carlos Perez has the best arm of the bunch and Stassi is probably the best defensively.

by Jeff Reese on Jun 25, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you've noted before that Bailey was more highly regarded than Stassi going into last year.

Stassi hasn’t really raised his stock for me (though I did like him alot). .247/.319/.436 on the year with a frightening 76 K/20 BB ratio in 59 games.

All those guys are pretty close for me. Probably fall in the 80-130 range with some upside.

by alskor on Jun 25, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But the arm is a question mark right now, and he’s lost a year of development time. I like Bailey quite a bit, but I’m going to need some positive scouting reports on him to move him back ahead of Stassi.

The Ks are a big concern, but he’s been praised defensively and is showing good power for a teenager in the Midwest League.

by Jeff Reese on Jun 25, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Minor

7 ip, 2 R, 1 BB, and 8 K. Not bad at all

by turambar85 on Jun 25, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Delgado or Minor?

Better MLB career??

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by Wilbur Wood on Jun 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhh

7 singles. Hits are largely a function of luck, it doesn’t concern me at all.

by The Big Hurt on Jun 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

some blue jays prospects

Zach Stewart: 6.1ip, 6h, 2bb, 8ks
Alvarez Henderson: 6ip, 6h, 3r(1er), 1bb, 7ks

by elpikiman on Jun 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

z stew

stewart improving…noice.

by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 26, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Austin Fleet

RHP Rookie Arizona League Giants

After being used mostly in relief in 2010 for Coastal Carolina the Giants are starting Fleet.

Box score

by wilriv21 on Jun 25, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

random Padres note

Cedric Hunter promoted to AAA Portland.

by mrkupe on Jun 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Some guys

Jake McGee 4IP 3H 2BB 10K
what a boss

Steven Hensley 5.1IP 6H 2R 4BB 5K
Dustin Ackley 1-5 2B 3K
Nick Franklin 0-4 2K
Alex Liddi 0-4 R BB 3K
Carlos Triunfel 0-4 K
Kyle Seager 1-3 2B R BB
Dennis Raben 2-2 RBI R BB
Ji-Man Choi 2-2 (.625 BA so far for AZL M’s)

5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!

by Marinerfanjake on Jun 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Sign of the apocalypse?

Ackley with 3 K’s? Or maybe that home run the other day went to his head and he’s just swinging for the fences? :p

by oplaid on Jun 26, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

A good second half could give him an outside chance of being a september callup

He also has an outside channce of making the opening day of roster. Really want him to succeed.

5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!

by Marinerfanjake on Jun 26, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edwin Escobar

LHP Rookie A Salem-Keizer Giants

18 yr old pitcher the Giants received in the Ben Snyder to Rangers deal this spring. Escobar throws low 90’s heat and has a developing curve ball.

by wilriv21 on Jun 26, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Zach Britton

8 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 1 ER, 9 SO

http://mvn.com/mlb-tossingtherosin/

by koolkerns101 on Jun 26, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

britton impromptu rank

how would u rank these:

Withrow
C Crosby
Britton
Cosart

by Rupert Pupkin on Jun 26, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Withrow
Cosart
Crosby
Britton

5 MORE YEARS OF FELIX!

by Marinerfanjake on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby
Britton
Withrow
Cosart

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think I’d rather have Cosart. If Crosby’s healthy, he’s at the top, but as it is:

Cosart
Britton
Crosby
Withrow

by Jeff Reese on Jun 26, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

Crosby is pretty much never healthy, though.

Have to take Britton over Cosart, comparable upsides and Britton is two levels higher.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

control

Britton’s walked 28 guys in 87 innings, in AA no less. That’s just fine and he’s made good strides there in the last year.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cosart has walked 15 in 70 innings

At the same age/level Britton walked 49 in 147 innings. Cosart has shown advanced command compared to Britton at the same stage of development. It doesn’t mean he’ll make the same strides as Britton did, but I really do like the combo of stuff and control Cosart has at this point. I think his ceiling exceeds that of Britton, though Britton is closer to the majors and has the higher floor.

http://bullpenbanter.com

by gatling on Jun 26, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, Cosart has the higher ceiling

But it’s not like we’re comparing frontline starter potential to end of the rotation starter potential here. Considering that one guy has a higher floor AND is pitching with success two levels higher, right now I couldn’t not go with Britton.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Cosart's advantage in potential is outweighed by Britton's likeliness to reach his potential as well as the fact that he's closer to reaching his respective ceiling

Cosart could end up being one of the best pitchers in the league. With Britton’s ability to induce groundballs and his command, if he can miss some bats then he’ll likely end up being a pretty damn good starter.

I’m very bullish on Britton at the very least becoming a solid No. 4, with a good defense behind him he could be a really effective guy.

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by Satchel Price on Jun 26, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

Like, if you wanted to assign probabilities, I’d probably give Cosart an edge in being a No. 1 starter . . .but for every other slot in a rotation, I think Britton has a better chance.

Britton’s really had a fine year and he’s certainly on the rise. Now that he’s cut the walks, it’s really not that easy to do much against him.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

but didn’t want to homer my list.

Britton translates well to a decent MLB career

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not minor leagues

Chris Johnson: 4/5, two doubles, no strikeouts with the Astros big league club.

I’m really impressed with what I’m seeing from him. He appears to have made some significant adjustments since the beginning of the year. His plate approach is much better; he’s not swinging at pitches outside the zone. Furthermore, his swing used to be pretty long and he’d tried to pull everything. Now, it’s much quicker and simpler, and he’s willing to go with the ball.

All this is supported by his reduced strikeout this season at AAA: He struck out in just 14.1% of his plate appearances, as compared to 21.8% in 2009.

Don’t be too surprised if he turns out to stick as an everyday starter, maybe even an above average major leaguer.

by OremLK on Jun 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Clay Mortensen

part of matt holliday trade is on a nice streak, especially in june

7in/5h/er/1bb/8k’s

Finally a breakout game by taylor w/ 4 hits

by MagicMike23 on Jun 26, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Adys Portillo

Rough night

2.2IP 7R (5ER) 5H 4BB 2SO

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 26, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Corey Dickerson

COL 8th rounder ’10

2-4 2B HR 3RBI

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 26, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

'10 Round 1-3 Draftees

Leon Landry 2-4 2B RBI SO SB
Jedd Gyorko 1-4 RBI 2SO
Ryan LaMarre 2-4 RBI BB SB
Jesse Biddle 3IP 0R BB 3SO 2GO/4FO
Kellin Deglan 3-3 2RBI
Addison Reed 4IP 2R (1ER) 5H BB 6SO 2GO/4FO
Robert Brantly 1-3 BB

http://sportingballs.blogspot.com/

by TFelsmaier on Jun 26, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Michael Kvasnicka

0/2 but 2 BB, no strikeouts.

by OremLK on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gyorko

is a masher, does he stay at 2nd?

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

thinking the same thing

but if he can,

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

If there was any confidence that he could

He’d have been drafted a lot higher. From what I’ve read, his future isn’t likely to be in the infield.

by Jeff Reese on Jun 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

but we all know teams make misreads. But I agree, his bat is good enough

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

really like Gyorko so far

small build, solid power, “gamer” label

How long before Pedroia comps?

by walnut falcons on Jun 26, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arcia continues his rampage

Oswaldo Arcia 2-3, BB, K

Some other guys….
Will Myers 2-4, 2B
Ryan LaMarre 2-4, BB
Kolbrin Vitek 0-3, 2 BB, K
Ben Revere 3-4, CS
Joe Benson 0-4, 3 K
Lonnie Chisenhall 1-4, BB
Brandon Laird 1-2, HR (19), 2 BB…..Putting up serious numbers as a 22 yr in the EL
Alex Gordon 3-5, 3B, HR
Kila Ka’aihue 1-3, HR, 2 BB
Hank Conger 2-3, HR, BB

by Haden Dawg on Jun 26, 2010 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Jaff Decker

showing a little life.

"The key to winning baseball games is pitching, fundamentals, and three run homers."

by fourfingerwoo on Jun 26, 2010 7:00 AM EDT reply actions  

jerry sands

finshs 2nd game in AA 4-4 with 1 homer and 3 singles

if he dominates AA for the rest of the year and at 22 years old… is he a top 100 prospect?

by matthewmafa on Jun 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think so.

The numbers are pretty great, and the fact that it’s in the Midwest is nice, too.

But he’s 22, and he turns 23 in September. The numbers are monster, but again, they’re coming from a 22-year-old corner outfielder/first baseman in Single-A.

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I write for Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times Fantasy

by Satchel Price on Jun 26, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

In AA now; 2 HR in 2 games already.

by limozeen on Jun 26, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

Corner OF who hammers AA at age 22 . . .if the scouting reports come back solid, then he’s probably a grade B prospect for me, which means he’d be in contention for slots 85-100, typically.

If things don’t go like that for him, I’d have to think about it.

by mrkupe on Jun 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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