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4/28 MiLB Thread

The Minor League Thread for Wednesday, April 28th, 2010. Some games already in progress.

 

Notable Starters:

AAA: Jeremy Hellickson, Chris Tillman, Michael Bowden, Aroldis Chapman

AA: Zach Putnam, Casey Kelly, Martin Perez, Anthony Capra, Joe Blanton (rehab), Deolis Guerra, Kyle Weiland, Erik Cordier

A+:T.J. House, Alex Wilson, Cody Scarpetta, J.C. Ramirez, Kyle Allen

A-ball: John Lamb, Kyle Lobstein

 

 

Please let me know if anyone else of note is starting. Many of the matchup on milb.com didn't have probables yet.

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T.J. House

5 IP
3 H
1 R
2 BB
6 K
5 GO – 3 AO

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he's a great "helium" candidate for the remainder of this year

Seems a guy that gets overlooked due to being in a deep system.

by jibs on Apr 28, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some people already had him in or close to the Indians top 10. If he continues to develop like this, he could be a top 5 guy.

by JP_Frost on Apr 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I really like this kid quite a bit. He’s sort of overshadowed because of the shear mass of pitching talent in the Indians system(Rondon, White, Hagadone, Perez, Gomez, Carrasco, Knapp), but he’s got the goods to be right there in the mix with those guys.

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by gatling on Apr 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Wilson

Class A Salem (BOS)

5 IP
1 H
0 R
1 BB
6 K
7 GO – 2 AO

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think he's reliever ultimately

but I think he can be a late game reliever. He has nasty stuff and throws hard. Closer kind of stuff. Filthy fastball and slider mix.

The Sox love to keep kids at starter so they can work on their secondary stuff. I don’t think Wilson is all that far off from helping the big league team as a reliever. He was dominant last year, but old for his level (still, first full pro season). Only 10 hits in 36 IP with 33 Ks dominant.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zach Putnam

AA Akron (CLE)

3.1 IP
9 H
7 R
2 BB
3 K
4 GO – 3 AO

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

like him

Don’t think he’s a starter in any more than spot duty, but would make a good reliever.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So uhhh....

Wes Helms

Marlins 3 hitter today… Niiiiceeee

by Palmslice on Apr 28, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

not milb but.... one of my fave prospects ever

Austin Kearns…. just a hot week, or a late bloomer?

this guy was one of my fave prospects to follow in the early 00s… I got see him play with the Reds in 05 [i think] …. saw the Reds v Braves in atl… got there early enough to see Dunn, Junior, and Kearns take BP…. I can tell you assuredly that Kearns put on the show. Griffey and Dunn were hitting a couple nice shots, but Kearns got up there and the ball was exploding off his bat. BP I know, but I was impressed.

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Late bloomer. Love him.

Listed him second under “Best Moves” in my Indians season preview. I had a feeling it might work out this way. He’s a solid useful player with some upside…

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"solid useful player with some upside"

kind of like my other dawg Hermida… I think both could turn in stellar seasons if they get 500 ABs

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but if the power's legit...

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP over a few weeks...

I keep seeing this cited. Obviously the BABIPs are all over the place right now and haven’t stabilized. Not sure if its all that useful as an indicator of luck at this point. The league leaders are still hitting in the .380’s. We KNOW lots of guys are getting very lucky and unlucky. At this point when I see a guy with a high BABIP all it means to me is he’s hitting the ball well. I understand his AVG hasn’t stabilized… he’s hitting .386. Its not like people think that’s a legit .386 that will hold up or something.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regress it back though

I’m guessing that if you regress the BABIP back to something more normal (say .360), you end up with something like a .290/.340/.450 line for an ~.800 OPS right in line with pretty much his entire career. Useful, but not quite the “late bloomer” that people want to get excited about.

by Ophidian on Apr 29, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon

2/4 R BB SB(6) CS(3)

Definitely not running as often this year, but he continues to hit.

by Jeff Reese on Apr 28, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

all in all, looking good

The speed’s going to be there, but the rate of development with his bat is pleasantly surprising.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

I don’t think I can put him ahead of Castro though.

by Jeff Reese on Apr 28, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 to that

Very underrated by most. Then again, the SS position in general is lacking minor league talent. There seems to be a lot of solid-average-ish guys, but no standouts.

by guru4u on Apr 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I think Castro and Gordon are two of the best shortstop prospects we’ve seen in years. The crop besides them is pretty decent too, and the additions of Christian Colon and Manny Machado in a couple of months will make it even better.

The minors aren’t exactly strong right now due to teams aggressively pushing their guys (I wonder how much the economic climate has to do with that), but shortstop looks better now than it has in a long time.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're apparently not alone

Sounds like he’s the top prep position player at this point, but the rumors of bonus demands are creeping up and it’s not looking pretty . . .

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

One of the few position players I’d be OK with #2 overall (along with Austin Wilson).

by Jeff Reese on Apr 29, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

ooc ... a mile?

just seems odd to say a mile when Castro’s defense early on has been very solid, and he’s been raking. I can see a case for Dee Gordon potentially … just the “mile” part caught my attention.

by toonsterwu on Apr 28, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've warmed to Castro, but I still feel Gordon is a clearly superior prospect.

Castro is the better contact hitter/better feel for hitting, but I’d project Gordon to have the edge everywhere else. I still question Castro’s secondary skills. Gordon is just starting to tap a tremendous amount of raw potential.

I had Gordon really high… and predicted he’d be top 10 next season recently. Really shouldn’t be read as a slight on Castro.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm somewhat nitpicking because i finally have a night free

and that’s all this really is (not trying to start a debate) but everywhere else (btw, I wasn’t reading it as a slight, just the word mile caught my attention)? Even if you don’t believe Castro’s power will reach some of the ridiculous hype this offseason, I think he should have more power.

As noted, I can see a case for Devaris. That said, way I see it

Defense – I’d call this a wash between the two. I don’t recall anyone suggesting that Dee would be a stellar defensive player. He’s got more speed, but I’m still not sold his range is going to be far better (Castro’s lateral movement is better than acknowledged, IMO, and allows him to get to balls). Castro’s got the better arm. I don’t think anyone anticipates these two to be elite defensive shortstops, but both, on paper, seem likely to be solid/good.

Contact/hitting ability – Castro, as you note.

Baserunning/SB – Clearly an edge for Dee. Leaving aside Starlin’s speed questions, his base running instincts aren’t the best. Could be decent-solid if he refined it.

Power – Edge for Castro.

That said, a long way to go for both.

by toonsterwu on Apr 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defense

I think that is the one area where Dee is clearly superior, honestly. He’s had consistency issues, but the scouting reports were reporting plus plus range. Starlin has had his future at the position questioned.

by Jeff Reese on Apr 29, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

since I haven’t really doubted Starlin’s ability to stick at short early in his career (say first decade or so), I might be biased. That said, the early reports on Starlin in AA have been very solid (from a defensive perspective). I’ve always argued that his lateral mobility was better than the C-1st speed that a lot of folks utilized to question his defensive future (short – his range is pretty good, maybe not Dee good, but good), and Starlin does have a better arm.

by toonsterwu on Apr 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

Low A catchers aren’t going to be nearly as advanced as ones in AA as a whole, so he can’t just run at will.

Another Dodger, Lambo 2-5, double – back to his multi hitting game ways

by hybrid on Apr 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

His "off-season"

was a slightly low BABIP at age 20 in AA

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanton

Doubles in a run in first, Southern League MVP season continues.

by casejud on Apr 28, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i doubt he will be there in 3 weeks

so i don’t see him winning the league mvp

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

Stanton really has a great rep for working on his game and he embraces challenges; his terrific makeup is one of his best traits IMO. The sooner you get him to AAA, the sooner he can start learning from that level of competition.

I still wonder a little about the strikeouts, but most really tall guys seem to struggle with that, especially early in their careers.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alexander Perez

Someone asked me about him and his injury and it turns out he will take the mound tomorrow for Kinston.

by JP_Frost on Apr 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Indians

Some of the guys who weren’t mentioned already (House and Putnam):

AAA:

Donald: 2-3 (won’t be long before he’s called up I think)
Santana: 1-3, BB, RBI, 2 K

AA:

Chisenhall: 0-3
Weglarz: 0-4, K

A:

Kipnis: 2-2, 2B, 2BB
Abreu: 2-4, 3B, 2 RBI, K

by JP_Frost on Apr 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

haven’t heard much about it to be honest. No news is good news I suppose.

by JP_Frost on Apr 28, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA had an article saying it was relatively positive

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bo

I want Bo Greenwell added to your cleveland updates :)

by JJACK on Apr 28, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Hicks

2-4 4runs, HR, 2 Rbi’s, 1BB

Has been on a tear.

Also the power is developing. 3HR’s now in 67 AB’s versus 4HR’s in 251 AB’s all last year

by BryceHarper on Apr 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

Nice job by the Twins of not pushing him TOO aggressively and letting him develop his skills . . .the tools will play at any level.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tejeda

0-4 4k’s

7th Error already. Just learning a new position or are there legitimate concerns defensively?

by BryceHarper on Apr 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

LoL

Not much you can say…bad day all around…

by Dfarth on Apr 28, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say

7 errors in one day is pretty rough.

by Kerm on Apr 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scouting reports are infinitely more valuable

Minor league infields are sometimes in poor shape and you really cannot tell much about the quality of a fielder (at any level) by the raw error total. I mainly want to hear about a fielder’s range.

by Jeff Reese on Apr 28, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

It really depends. I think what jar is referring to is

a) Some of the fields in the minors are bad. For example, Starlin Castro was bashed for his errors last year, but it was largely acknowledged that the field at Daytona is pretty bad (I’d say it’s one of the worst in the minors, but haven’t been around enough to know).

b) We often focus on offense with minor league guys in regards to development, but they are there to develop defensively as well.

At the end of the day, errors have some meaning but you have to understand the context. For example, if a guy is missing with his throws and a bit scattershot, that’s probably cause for concern.

  • Was typing just as jar posted and figured I’d post anyways.

by toonsterwu on Apr 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoot

Rockies prospect left-hander Christian Friedrich was placed on the 7-day DL for Double-A Tulsa due to left elbow soreness.
Friedrich was scratched from a start on Sunday, though it’s not yet known whether he was simply being skipped this time through the rotation. The 22-year-old left-hander was off to a great start with the Drillers, posting a 2.81 ERA and 1.19 WHIP over his first three starts. He entered the year ranked as the 33rd best prospect according to Baseball America.

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yah

He’s been on the DL for a few days now . . .no major injuries yet, but it’s safe to say that this is far and away his biggest flaw.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Myers

2-4, double – but error on throw and pass ball

John Lamb after a very nice start to the year got roughed up a bit, 4IP 3H 4ER 4BB 2K

by hybrid on Apr 28, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait....

Scratch that. MiLB.com only half updated the player page. Fell for it again.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

show my work just in case I'm off...

milb.com has half the stuff updated on the player page… nonsensical.

10 singles, 3 doubles, 1 triple, 4 HRs = 36 Total bases

36 TB – 19 Hits = 17 / 78 ABs (dammit, it was NOT updated on top, but was updated below! When will the milb.com madness stop??) = .217 ISO. F*** me. I give up.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

it’d be updated soon.

he’s on fire right now. with the bat. the power is uber impressive in the MWL. in that ballpark no less.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Apr 28, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have just listed it from yesterday...

but apparently I’m an a**hole and had to include today’s game. Half the stats were updated to halfway through the game, and ABs not at all. Awesome.

Why the heck can’t we get stats on our phones yet on milb.com too? That would be nice. It looks awesome and you can get the scores, but not the stats.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering this same thing. Great job by MiLB to get the mobile site — now please give it full functionality.

by PhillyFriar on Apr 29, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

word

his bat gives me chills. like, first-crush-in-middle-school chills

by daveh33 on Apr 28, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember that

6th grade.

not quite getting those chills yet though. maybe soon.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Apr 28, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sold he can stick at C though

He would still make an elite prospect if he can transition to 2B like a Biggio did.

The bat looks awesome though. Fantasy gold if he does stick!

by guru4u on Apr 28, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right... and again (think I mentioned this yesterday)

He’s not a Jesus Montero who may not be mobile enough to stick back there or doesn’t have the tools to do so… this kid is a just a young athlete without a position. Its more like not knowing if Devin Hester would be a better fit at WR or CB in the NFL.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Peguero

4-5 3HR’s!

9 Hr’s on the year. silly

by BryceHarper on Apr 28, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Coutelangus ...

… I can’t say it without a stupid grin.

by squarejaw on Apr 29, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Moustakas

AA NW Arkansas (KC)

1-4, 2B, E (fielding)

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

At least no hitting errors

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

as opposed to throwing

Its listed one or the other in the box score…

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh! Sorry

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Parmelee

AA New Britian (MIN) 1B

0-4, 2 Ks.

.147/.205/.206 on the season. Never been a fan. Didn’t even like him as an OFer.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah I was gonna say

Well, honestly Joe Benson I will say has a better shot of turning it around, but Yeah Parmelee is starting to look like Jake Fox at BEST.

neither Benson, Parmelee and maybe even Revere is as GOOD as Rene Tosoni AA OFer for the Twins

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Benson.

He hasn’t started off great… stil believe in that kid.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas Neal

AA Richmond (SF) LF

2-5, 2B, 2 K

Lots of XBHs, but contact problems. .227 AVG. 8 BB/ 17 K. Still don’t care for Neal that much. Not a top 100 guy for me. Top 150… sure. Not sure he has any value on defense in the OF even if he sticks there.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

defense?

Can you clarify? Do you mean that he will be only average defensively, and therefore have no additional value, or that he will be a bad defender? I’ve only heard positives about his defense so far, especially his arm.

by Ltisme on Apr 28, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either average or worse.

Ive heard plenty questionable about his defense. In fact, IIRC BA and BP discussed the possibility he ends up at 1B.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ackley

His team scores 10 runs on 12 hits, yet Ackley goes 0-4, 2K…

by hybrid on Apr 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

I keep checking his box scores, thinking I’m gonna see 5 for 5 or something like that.

by Kerm on Apr 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

SSS and all, but this guy was supposed to be able to hit .300 in his sleep…If he keeps this up people are going to be screaming for a position switch.

by St.Steve on Apr 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ackley

I think the position excuse is crap…

by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 28, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you think if a player dedicates much more of their time to fielding than they otherwise would, which leaves less time for hitting, there will be no impact on their performance?

Ackley has walked as many times as he has struck out. He has a sub-200 babip. Worry at the end of the year if he still has a line like this.

by Kaorikaze on Apr 29, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if his BABIP wasn't below .200 he just might

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by OldProspects on Apr 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody Scarpetta

A+ Brevard County (MIL) SP

5 IP
4 H
0 R
1 BB
4 K
3 GO – 7 AO

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I like him

That said, it’s probably SSS, but has anyone seen him in the early going? GB rate is significantly lower than in previous years. Was wondering if he’s not getting the sink, or something else.

Does have to sharpen up his command, though.

by toonsterwu on Apr 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juan C. Ramirez

A+ Clearwater (PHI) SP
opposing Scarpetta

4 IP
8 H
8 R (7 ER)
1 BB
4 K
2 GO – 2 AO

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought so...

Not so sure anymore. I like both considerably at this point.

Still rather have Ramirez, I think…

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

JC has more upside

but more downside too I think. Pineda doesn’t profile as more than probably a #3 or if he maxes out a #2, but he looks like a solid bet to help a rotation. Ramirez has the stuff to be a #2 but may end up a setup man as well. I agree though, I like both of them quite a bit.

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by gatling on Apr 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

nice one, Frederick haha

by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 28, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Travis D'Arnaud

Anybody know what’s up with him. I don’t think he’s played in the last 2-3 games for Dunedin.

by hrv1978 on Apr 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Luke Hughes of the Twins

Just went Yard in his first EVER major league at-bat!!!!

off of Max Scherzer

The Aussie’s know how to get ’em done

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Chapman
FrankiePiliere: Chapman hits 100 mph in the 2nd. 96 to 99 sitting.

http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere/status/13036094960

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitched well

. . . as well.

6 5 3 2 2 4

Gave up longballs in 3rd and 4th but, kept the lead at 4-3 shutting ’em down in 5th and 6th.
Biggest breakthrough was that he was more efficient 99 pitches, 64 strikes

Kid is great

by casejud on Apr 28, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

aandro: Tommy Hunter is heading for Oklahoma City after being reinstated from the disabled list.

http://twitter.com/aandro/status/13035905597

(Anthony Andro)

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Hellickson

5.1 IP
6 H
1 BB
2 ER
5 K
0 HR

by Pup Dog on Apr 28, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Michael Bowden

4.2 iP
5 hard hit balls
3 lousy BB
7 “extremely” earned runs
2 piddly Ks
2 Moonshot HRs

Oh well

by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

great arm

But about the best we’ve seen out of him thus far is this sort of “effectively wild”.

by mrkupe on Apr 28, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin Perez

Through 2 innings

0 hits, 0 bb, 4 k

now that’s sexy

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Chris Tillman

Through 6 innings

0 H, 1 BB, 4Ks

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by PHGold09 on Apr 28, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

TIllman is Thugg’n & Bugg’n

by Rupert Pupkin on Apr 28, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Efficient

84 pitches through 7 innings

by Jaeti on Apr 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just finished the 8th

8IP 0H 0ER 1BB 6K – 94 pitches

by hybrid on Apr 28, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No hitter!

9IP 0H 0ER 1BB 6K – His last 2 starts has been stellar

by hybrid on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No-hitter

9 innings, 0 hits, 1 BB, 6 Ks, 105 pitches (63 strikes)

by Jaeti on Apr 28, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Pugh of the twins gettin it done

In the FSL a 21 year old pitcher

has 6.0 IP 1 ER 10 K’s

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

i just like that name Bruce Pugh

as in Pewww !!! it stinks

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what I meant was

7.0 IP 12 K’s 0 ER

4 hits allowed

dayum

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...great start

Never heard of this guy. Great start after 3 ho-hum ones.

by Ion293 on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

A VERY NICE

Wowzers time to add to fantasy team ……check

Wow Blackburn makes nearly identical money as Baker does now....

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Apr 28, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 strikeouts and 1 walk

Current overall stats: 4.05 ERA, 21 K, 5 BB, 24 H, .245 OPP BA

Picking up right where he left off last season for the Tides.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Apr 28, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

This would be so much more exciting if Tillman had done this in April of LAST year, before he got lit up like a pinata in the majors and the forecasts on him went from “could be a frontline starter” to “really needs a third pitch to remain a starting pitcher” seemingly overnight.

His stuff is actually pretty good . . .but I can’t think of too many guys in recent memory who got the “now that I’ve actually seen him pitch . . .eh” treatment worse than him.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if I really but all that. Scouts for sure saw him in h.s. and the minors and loved him, just cause he didn’t have the best pro debut, well tons of young arms do that. Also for what it’s worth I’ve heard he has picked up a cutter now, which seems to do wonders for some guys.

by hybrid on Apr 29, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

He was 21 last year. I know age isn’t as important for pitchers as hitters, but I really think that’s young enough that we can pretty much entirely ignore his major league stats. If the Orioles would have kept him at AAA for all last year, and he would have continued to pitch as brilliantly as he did, he would have been at least a top-10 prospect, if not a top 5. This year, he’s done less well (the no-hitter notwithstanding, his K numbers have been fine, but not exceptional), but his control has continued to dramatically improve. By last year, it had already been good – this year, in an admittedly small sample size, it looks borderline outstanding

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by OldProspects on Apr 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tillman

Definitely, he did get lit up in the majors but he’s only 22 and a few of his MLB starts he was fooling hitters the whole game. Te numbers he put up in Triple-A as a 21 year old are almost unreal.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Apr 29, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Henderson Alvarez

5.1IP 6H 1R 0ER 0BB 5Ks

so far this season for the Dunedin
24.1IP 18H 3R 1ER 0HR 4BB 14SO
seems like he pounds the strike zone consistently and I like how he doesn’t walk much.

any more scouting for thing guy?

by elpikiman on Apr 28, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, definitely need to learn more about this guy.

All the reports I’ve read before didn’t impress me… but man, he’s been getting some impressive results.

by alskor on Apr 28, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What reports did you read before?

Alvarez throws 92/93mph (hit 96mph this year reportedly) with heavy sink and a nasty hard changeup. He also doesn’t walk anyone.

by metafour on Apr 29, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

While Alvarez’ style of pitching tortured Low-A hitters, some question whether it will work at the upper levels. His fringy slider is more of a sweepy pitch without downward action, and he doesn’t have blow-away velocity.
He profiles as a back-end starter.
Alvarez will have to prove himself at the upper levels before being taken seriously.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9935

Alvarez needs to polish his breaking ball into a true slider or curveball. His velocity fluctuates, as there are games where he works at 86-89 mph, and adding more strength would help. He’s not overpowering, so he’ll have little margin for error against more advanced hitters. He has some recoil and falls off to first base in his delivery, and he tends to rush his mechanics with runners on base.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2010/269272.html

And he was age appropriate for the pitcher friendly Midwest League, pitching his third season (all stop by stop) and still only had a 6.7 K/9 and was fairly hittable.

Plus he’s pitching right now in the most pitcher friendly league in the game (Florida State League).

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Shonerd: I’ll wind it up with this one. Alvarez is becoming one of my favorite under the radar guys. His fastball gets up to 94 and his changeup is firm but has wicked movement. His record and ERA (6-5, 3.49) are hindered by not having a very good team behind him (Lansing has the MWL’s worst record). His low strikeout rate (6.4 K/9) is a concern, but he could be something special if he gets his curveball going.

by metafour on Apr 29, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blue Jays righthander Henderson Alvarez threw his fastball anywhere from 86-92 mph last year in the Midwest League, finishing the season with a 3.47 ERA in 23 starts for low Class A Lansing thanks largely to his advanced control and an above-average changeup.

This year Alvarez, who turned 20 on Sunday, is throwing in the low-90s and has touched 96 mph, according to McCullough. Through two starts with Dunedin, Alvarez has allowed one run in 14 innings for a 0.64 ERA, with two walks and seven hits allowed. The extra velocity hasn’t led to more strikeouts (six), but he’s pounded the strike zone and kept the ball down, leading to three groundouts for every fly out early in the season.

"His work on his days when he’s not pitching are getting better," McCullough said. "He’s understanding the importance of conditioning between starts to help him build arm strength and to maintain it. It’s just a young kid whose body is maturing."

McCullough said Alvarez, who is 6 feet, 190 pounds, has made strides with his offspeed stuff as well. He’s added a greater speed differential between his changeup and his fastball by tweaking the grip on his changeup, and shown more confidence in his breaking ball.

"Last year his breaking ball was just a work in progress," McCullough said. "He sees the value of it, the importance of getting that third pitch to be a starter up the ladder. Having a viable breaking ball is something he’s going to need, and it’s nice to see him trusting it in his outings much more this year. This year’s he’s throwing his breaking ball in situations he never would have last year."

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=8377#more-8377

The Dodgers won't win a playoff series until the Cool-a-Coo returns.

by mckeeno on Apr 29, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

This is making me lean towards calling him legit. I had a feeling a report like this was lurking behind this mini breakout. The old reports all sounded like a middle relief guy.

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derrick Robinson

batting .329/.427/.471 with 15 SB’s. yes, it’s early. but sometimes it takes a while. look at Denard Span. Carlos Beltran was similarly raw, not the same type of player, but another guy who floundered for a while before doing much. yes i know those are exceptions. not a sure thing, but he’s very intriguing if the tools are really starting to be put to good use.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Apr 28, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle Allen

3 IP 6H 6ER 4Ks 4BBs

He has struggled in every start this season.

by Ion293 on Apr 28, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Borchering, first jack

1-2, HR , BB SO

Trout 3/4, 2B, 3B, SO … so very impressive

meanwhile his fellow draftee Grichuk 0/4 . probably a SO too, can’t remember, hitting .188

Tim Beckham, 2/3 with 2 3Bs and a BB

by daveh33 on Apr 29, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

beckham

Nice to see a decent day out of him for once . . .he has been terrible to start this year (.156 batting average, striking out in almost 25 percent of his plate appearances). Not exactly the rebound campaign we were looking for . . .

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i still believe...

he might just take a while… but he really reminds me of Soriano… who was also a bit of a late-bloomer. [didn’t get going til age 25]

tim only just turned 20. give him a full-year in high-A… if he isn’t good, let him repeat next year at age 21 [still young for the league]…

by daveh33 on Apr 29, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Soriano?

Don’t see it . . .doesn’t have anywhere near those kind of tools. People seem to think Beckham’s got really great tools . . .they’re decent but they’re nothing spectacular.

Soriano was a weird case as he didn’t actually play American ball til he was 23, at which point he basically wrecked his competition one level at a time.

I really don’t have anything against Beckham’s performance last year, it was pretty average-ish for the league. But I was expecting him to look better this year, not crapping the bed like he’s done so far.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's got Sori's wrists/bat

…probably way better defensively… speed, probably less…

and, he has all of 45 ABs this year… give him another month before we look at his sheets for crap

by daveh33 on Apr 29, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might be out in left field on this one

And usually I’m fairly open-minded . . .but no, Tim Beckham does not have Alfonso Soriano’s bat.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Trout

Class A Cedar Rapids (LAA) CF

3-4, 2B, 3B, K, SB

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Tyler Skaggs

Pitching an inning of relief…? Appeared in relief last outing, too, but went 3 IP.

Perfect inning, 2 K

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Koby Clemens

AA Corpus Christi (HOU) 1B

1-4, HR

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Anthony Capra

AA Midland (OAK) SP

7 IP
3 H
1 R
1 BB
6 K
8 GO – 5 AO

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

nice

i always forget about him… cuz nobody else talks about him. he made my top 150 list.

by daveh33 on Apr 29, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rich Poythress

High A High Desert (SEA) 1B

2-4, HR (4)

.289/.357/.513. Yes High Desert… but went straight to High A

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

3rd round college first baseman

You were expecting him not to be ready to play in High A?

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, my bad

Those two words completely changed my perception of him, and I thank you for your timely response.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did allow myself to be corrected

My response was largely in jest, although I’ll admit: did the correction matter? In Poythress’ case, he was actually a first rounder on some draft boards.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes High Desert… but went straight to High A

He was in AA last year.

by aCone419 on Apr 29, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tanner Bushue

Class A Lexington (HOU) SP

6 IP
8 H
2 R (1 ER)
2 BB
5 K
1 GO – 9 AO

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

nice

Number 126 on daveh’s top prospects list, moving on up . . .

Figured I’d save him the time and effort.

by mrkupe on Apr 29, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilmer Flores

Class A Savannah (NYM) SS

3-4, 3B

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Ridiculous

12 XBH, 9 K… I could see a Miggy Cabrera ‘03-like rise to the majors next year. Of course, as a RF, but he’ll hit more than enough.

by jc3 on Apr 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jiovanni Mier

Class A Lexington (HOU) SS

1-4

Now batting .222/.345/.306. 11 BB/ 12 K

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

On the plus side, he’s taking his walks (12.6%) and not striking out much (13.7%). Good plate discipline there. Batting average takes a long time to stabilize, so my hope is that .222 number will go up and bring up the OBP/SLG with it.

by OremLK on Apr 29, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's why I put the BB/K there.

Although I’ve always held him in regard as a good glove, so-so bat guy (didn’t feel his performance last year was all that indicative), I guarantee you he hits better than that. Especially when he’s controlling the strikezone like that.

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brett Jackson

Class A Daytona (CHC) OF

2-4, 3B

by alskor on Apr 29, 2010 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Odorizzi

2 IP, 3 ER, 5 H, 0 BB, 1 K

by jibs on Apr 29, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Jaime Garcia

He’s still technically a prospect for about 1 or 2 more appearances. 7 IP, 0 R, 4 H, 1 BB, 5 K vs Atlanta last night.

If you have ESPN Insider, Jason Grey wrote a nice scouting report article on Garcia a couple of days ago. He added a cutter/slider hybrid over the offseason.

by jibs on Apr 29, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Rangers

Joe Wieland: 4.2IP 7H 4R 3ER 2BB K2 HR
Miguel Velazquez: 2-5 CS
Leury Garcia: 1-5
Carlos Pimentel: 5.1IP 10H 7R 7ER 1BB 3K 1HR
David Paisano: 2-2 BB
Martin Perez: 5.0IP 4H 2R 2ER 4BB 5K 1HR GO/FO: 7-3
Ian Kinsler: 2-4 2RBI SB

"I was going to say, 'You’re gay for Elvis.' But then I realized that I, too, am gay for Elvis." ~Adam J. Morris.

by Kinslerhomer on Apr 29, 2010 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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