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Interesting High School Pitchers; A through J


 
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Interesting High School Pitchers for the 2010 Draft

I'm starting to focus on the draft now. Here is my take on the top high school arms in the draft class. This is letters A through J.  I will have more reports later this weekend. Check out Andy Seiler's draft blog for a lot more!



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Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS, Olmsted Falls, Ohio
      Big guy at 6-4, 225 pounds, reportedly touches100 MPH+ at times though more commonly in the 97-99 vicinity. Also has a nasty slider. Main problem is erratic command; he also plays third base, but teams want him on the mound. Despite his terrific arm, he might not make it into the first round due to command issues: he is more thrower than pitcher at this point, although his mechanics aren't bad. Depending on what happens over the next month, I could see him going to a team at the bottom of the first round looking for a high-risk/high-reward type. He seems like someone who could interest the Angels at 30, the Rays at 31, or the Yankees at 32. North Carolina signee.

Cam Bedrosian, RHP, East Coweta HS, Senioa, Georgia
     Son of former major leaguer Steve Bedrosian, so he has good bloodlines. Not a big guy at 6-0, 195, but he's fairly athletic and has a live arm, hitting 95 MPH on his best days. Curveball is erratic-but-promising, and he has a decent feel for pitching for his age, not surprising given his background. Would be an attractive target for a number of teams in the supplemental or early second round. Andy Seiler has him going to the Braves at Number 35 in his latest Mock Draft, and that seems like a good bet. Louisiana State commitment but should be signable.

A.J. Cole, RHP, Oviedo HS (Florida)
      Well known to scouts for a long time, still has projectability at 6-5, 190 pounds but already hits 91-94 MPH with good movement. Mixes in a good breaking ball but will need to improve changeup in pro ball, not unusual for his age. He throws strikes and basically has no major flaws as high school pitchers go. He has a University of Miami commitment but should be signable if drafted early enough. He's a definite candidate for the Top Ten, and barring a late injury disaster or unusual bonus demands he won't get past 15.

Dylan Covey, RHP, Maranatha HS (California)
    Good athlete, not huge at 6-2, 195, but has more than enough arm strength with a 91-94 MPH fastball and a nasty curve. Well-known to scouts on the amateur circuit, like Cole he is relatively polished for his age and has done well against good quality competition. A University of San Diego signee, he's been rated a Top 20 talent for some time, has done nothing to change that this spring, and could get into the Top 10 under the right circumstances. I doubt he would get past the Angels at 18 and could go as high as the Mets at 7.

Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (Georgia)
   Another live arm from the high school ranks, Cowart is also a prospect as a third baseman, where he has good power and a terrific glove. As a pitcher, he can hit 95 MPH but is usually 3-5 MPH below that, though his velocity should get more consistent if he gives up hitting. His curveball and changeup have promise, but he needs more innings and experience to polish his mound work. Very athletic at 6-3, 190, the Florida State signee is a target for the second half of the first round. He would fit nicely with the Red Sox at 20, the Twins at 21, or the Rangers at 22.

Mike Foltynewicz, RHP, Minooka Community HS (Illinois)
     A cold-weather high school arm, Foltynewicz is listed in various sources at 6-4, 190 and 6-5, 200; I'm assuming that the smaller size is from last year and that he's grown this spring. A University of Texas signee, he's another prep with a 90-94 heater topping out at 95. His curve and change are better than most cold-weather kids. Depending on what happens this spring, he could get into the supplemental or early second round, and such a position may be necessary to keep him away from the Longhorns.

Scott Frazier, RHP, Upland HS (California)
      A two-way player in the past, Frazier moved to the mound from the outfield this spring and saw his velocity peak up to 93-94 MPH. The 6-7, 215 pound Pepperdine signee needs to continue work with his secondary stuff and is rather raw, and signability could also be a factor given that he's an excellent student attracted to college. Would be a second round target if his monetary demands are reasonable, likely to a team willing and able to take risks on guys with upside but in need of some polish.

Kevin Gausman, RHP, Grandview HS (Colorado)
     As a high school pitcher from Colorado, Gausman draws the inevitable comparisons to Roy Halladay. He's smaller than Halladay at 6-4, 185, though he's still projectable and very athletic. He hits 93-95 MPH with movement, has a good breaking ball, and is relatively polished considering his background. A Louisiana State commitment provides some leverage for negotiations. He's expected to be a mid-first-round pick, but if he slips a bit, the home-state Rockies would have to be tempted at 26.

Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Henderson HS (Texas)
     Excellent athlete with rising stock, has increased his velocity this spring up into the 93-96 MPH range. Also has a promising slider and curveball. Rather raw and has played a lot of basketball and football, which has understandably slowed his development as a baseball player to some extent, though he's made good progress this spring. Listed at 6-4   180, he has a football scholarship to Baylor and could be a difficult sign outside of the first two rounds. I expect him to go in the supplemental round: the Angels at 40, the Tigers at 44, or the Rangers at 45 seem like good fits.

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Robert Aviles

Please do not forget Aviles

by wilriv21 on Apr 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

won't

Won’t. I’ll write about him later but I didn’t see him as a potenital first round or supplemental pick.

by John Sickels on Apr 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top HS pitchers

Interesting post from Connor Glassey at BA:
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2089

Looks like he polled 9 scouting directors on the best HS pitchers after Taillon. Whitson narrowly beat out Covey, with Cole in 4th place.

by acerimusdux on Apr 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like he polled 9 scouting directors on the best HS pitchers after Taillon. Whitson narrowly beat out Covey, with Cole in 4th place.

This is essentially what I’m hearing, too. Whitson has made a jump this year that a lot of places haven’t concentrated on, since his stuff isn’t as flashy as Taillon’s. The Cole/Covey argument is about projection, and if Cole can regain a little bit of velocity towards the end of the year, and if he impresses in private workouts, then he’s probably just a tad above Covey if their signability is even, which is unknowable at this point.

by Andy Seiler on Apr 17, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Projection

I tend to be cautious with the “projection” guys; too often it just means the guy is big. And yet, of 71 pitchers in the Hall of Fame, only 16 were even bigger than 6’ 2".

With a guy like Covey, when I see multiple sources reporting a current plus-plus curve, grade 70 now, along with the 91-94 mph fastball, I’m just not that concerned that there’s not more velocity to project. I think he clearly has better stuff than Cole now, and being “only” 6’2" might even give him a better chance of developing the plus command to go with it to be truly elite.

Whitson apparently flashed a plus slider last year, but had some trouble commanding it, and was still surprisingly a bit raw for the son of a big league pitcher. Apparently recent reports are showing improved command, with the change maybe also looking like a good potential third pitch. Also read improved conditioning.

Cole also seems intriguing though, and with 4 good HS pitchers, and some teams maybe reluctant to draft HS pitching high, there could be a bargain or two there if any of these guys fall far.

by acerimusdux on Apr 17, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not necessarily a telling measurement

First, it’s a rather arbitrary cutoff, second, 6’2" in 1930 is a lot different then 6’2’ 2010. Just because Christy Mathewson was 6’1" doesn’t mean he was a giant for his day. The influx of 6’2" talent into the hall of fame will be much greater over the next dozen years if for no other reason then a higher % of pitchers being 6’2" or above

Stats are not a euphemism for tits

by Trenchtown on Apr 18, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's still telling

Yes, I think players have gotten bigger, but 6’2" still wouldn’t have been all that tall in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s or 1980s. The best pitchers from those eras are still not that tall. On the other hand, the best basketball players from those years are much taller. There was really no shortage of athletes taller than 6’2". If there were any great advantage to additional height, I think these numbers wouldn’t be that extreme.

Now there obviously are some advantages to height, you get a better downward plane, you get better extension towards home plate shortening the distance a bit, and in theory maybe better leverage allowing for higher pitch speeds. But there must be some things offsetting some of these for pitchers bigger than 6’ 2", and very likely one of them is that taller pitchers have generally found it harder to repeat their mechanics and develop outstanding command.

I’m not saying I’d avoid taller guys who show the talent, I’m just not inclined to give extra credit for a guy being taller than about 6’2". I can see where being smaller than about 5’10" might be an issue, but beyond that, take the best pitcher regardless of height.

by acerimusdux on Apr 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best athlete?

A) Who is the best athlete of this group? Cowart would be my guess.

B) I was thinking AJ Cole would be #2 after Taillon.

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

by Savoy on Apr 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

A) My opinion is that it’s Jenkins. Cowart’s an average runner and a solid all-around athlete, but Jenkins has the elite athleticism that scouts look for in a projectable pitcher.

by Andy Seiler on Apr 17, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

list

This list is alphabetical, NOT a ranking.

by John Sickels on Apr 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Frazier

Is still a two way guy. He’s started every game that he hasn’t pitched in RF.
He worked w Upland alum and former Phillie prospect dave coggin in the offseason working on mechanics which some of the added velo is accredited to.

by SoCalSoxFan on Apr 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a Kevin Gausman fan

The stuff that I read on him from this summer was pretty glowing.

by Jeff Reese on Apr 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

great stuff

But so much of the package when it comes to prep pitchers is the financial aspect/signability. A lot of these guys are going to ask for the world and probably get it . . .from somebody.

I’m curious as to who happens to be the best candidates to be this year’s Matt Hobgood, i.e. guy with a clear first round grade who nonetheless gets overdrafted slightly due to his signability.

A.J. Cole sounds like a decent candidate.

by mrkupe on Apr 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's a writeup and some pics of

Taijuan Walker and Griffin Murphy from a few weeks back. . .some video of Murphy, don’ t know why it came out so grainy. .

http://socalprospectscene.blogspot.com/2010/04/friday-pitching-matchup-murphy-vs.html

by SoCalSoxFan on Apr 17, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

One guy not on here

that I like is Drew Cisco. He won’t be a frontline starter but is very polished for a high school pitcher. He has a nice curve and a decent change and knows how to pitch. Sits 88-91 with the FB.

http://milbprospects.blogspot.com/

by Matt Garrioch on Apr 18, 2010 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll second that

I’ll also add that it isn’t unheard of for guys who had great command and polish as an amateur to add a couple of ticks on the fastball and a little extra tilt on the breaking ball and suddenly become better than anybody expected. Projection is a funny thing.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by JM Barten on Apr 18, 2010 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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