4/11 MiLB Discussion Thread
Sorry for the dumb poll. If there's a better idea, I'll change.
Some intriguing pitchers that caught my eye (as usual, may miss some, and some may not be listed. Furthermore, impacted by what I think ... and uh, there's my Cubs bias as well. I'll try to be more fair and not list Cubs for the sake of it from now on.):For a full list, MLS has it (although they are still showing yesterday's as of now), or you can flip through the scoreboard at MiLB.
To enhance my own awareness, and maybe others, if there's an arm that intrigues you for one reason or another that is not listed, could you tell us a bit about the player. I'll be the first to admit that my focus is mainly on the Cubs, although I try to find out about other guys
PCL - Casey Coleman, Adam Ottavino vs. Brad Thompson, Tommy Mendoza vs. Brett Cecil, Billy Buckner, John Ely vs. Guillermo Moscoso, Will Inman
IL (Charlotte/Gwinnett, Louisville/Toledo not listed yet on scoreboard) - Jason Hirsh vs. Dillon Gee (09 numbers look fairly decent ... could someone tell me about him), Joe Savery vs. Shairon Martis, Troy Patton, Fabio Castro, Yohan Pino, Aroldis Chapman
SL (Mob/Mont not listed yet): Michael Bowman, Darryl Thompson, Mauricio Robles vs. Jose Rosario
TL: Jordan Lyles vs. Edgar Osuna, Wynn Pelzer vs. Bruce Billings (dang ... nice number of K's last year, a bit older ... what's the report on him?), Kasey Kiker, Scott Gorgen vs. Anthony Capra
EL: Stephen Strasburg vs. Rudy Owens, Tyler Robertson, Stephen Fife, David Phelps (hmm control looks nice), Paolo Espino
FSL: Chris Archer (control?) vs. Cody Scarpetta, Manny Banuelos vs. Adam Wilk, Kyle Allen, JC Ramirez
Carolina: JJ Hoover, Cole McCurry (old for A+ but the K's caught my eye ... is he a lefty with a breaking ball that dominated Low A), TJ House, Alex Wilson vs. Patrick Lehman (gotta say, 2 walks in 59.1 innings over 2 levels is impressive, don't know squat about this GW grad, though)
California (I'm sure some of these arms are intriguing but only McAnaney jumps out at me ... help me out): Pat McAnaney
MWL (Burlington/Kane County not listed on scoreboard): Shelby Miller, Dexter Carter (any updates on his mechanics), Chad Jenkins, Chase Anderson, Su-ming Jung, Jon Hesketh, JC Sulbaran vs. Wilking Rodriguez
SAL (Aug/GBO not listed yet): Arodys Vizcaino vs. Matt Wickswat (old, but K's caught my eye), Jose A. Ramirez vs Jose Cisnero, Roman Mendez, Collin McHugh, Brody Colvin, Paul Demny
Looks like a lot of interesting arms going today. Chris Archer vs. Cody Scarpetta intrigues me. Very curious about some AAA guys like Hirsh and Cecil. Kiker was discussed a fair amount this winter. Darryl Thompson was hurt last year ... right? I like Wynn Pelzer enough ... think he's gone under the radar a bit. Very curious about JC Ramirez outside of Cal League. Shelby and Chad will have a lot of eyes following them. Jung has good stuff reportedly. Very curious if Dexter Carter can fix whatever ailed him at the end of last season, or if he falls back into some inconsistency. Arodys was the centerpiece of that trade ... gonna be curious how he does in full-season.
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sorry i missed that one
only went through scoreboard
btw, if someone has a better poll idea
do let me know … although i might not be around this afternoon, we might be able to use it another day. was rushing to get through it.
Travis d'Arnaud
Just hit his 2nd HR of the season
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please anyone I’m having a hard time.
Leake scoreless through 4, looking very good so far.
Kid looks pretty major league ready to me. His poise is pretty off the charts for a guy who has never even seen the minor leagues. And he got a hit in his first major league at-bat by putting together a better at-bat than any other Red has today (not that that’s saying much).
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I’m Detroit fan – so also I’m a Toledo fan , but Champan so far will be unbeaten in AAA
Chapman Hits 100 again
I have Stras and Chap next to each other.
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im still worried about chapman
he looks great so far, but im not sure how the offspeed and control will hold up. the fastball is as good as advertised though that’s for sure.
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
Should we be tracking
Josh Thole here too, for comparison sake?
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by gatling on Apr 11, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure
We’ll be able to catch the updates on Sportscenter
Chapman Thread
All chapman posts under here.
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the mudhens are starting to sit on his fb
and making pretty solid contact
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Chapman's day is done.
4.2 IP, 5 H, 1 R (unearned), 1 BB, 9 K, 85 pitches (55 strikes)
Not bad for an unimpressive first professional outing.
didn't say he was not impressive...
just said that he’s all fastball at this point. Needs to mix in the slider and a show me change at the very least. I would be interested to see the pitch breakdown from today, off the top of my head out of the 85 pitches I would say 78 fastballs 5 sliders 2 changeups. Dude definitely throws gas and I own him in an NL only keeper league, so I’m rooting for him big time.
Strasburg Thread
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Stras is averaging about 99.
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Every Pitch has been basically 99
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i'm a little disappointed that he and chapman have been so fb heavy today, kinda hoping to see the offspeed some
Adoptive parent of Kyle Nicholson
probably just playing it safe
This early in the season, you don’t want your prize can’t miss pitching prospect throwing a ton of sliders before he’s ready and blowing out his arm. This is basically just exercise for them . . .which makes the end results for both all the more impressive.
Strasburg threw several breaking balls and changeups over his last 3 innings
Had pretty good command of the curve/slider/whateveryoucallit it seemed.
Went to his game today...
in Altoona. Didnt see his first inn (traffic getting to the park was ridiculous!). He was sitting at 97-98, and I heard he hit 99 in the 1st inn. His curve/change looked devastating; froze several batters. He looked good, altho his command was not his best. Threw about 80 pitches, about 50 for strikes. Allowed 4 runs but only 1 earned. FWIW, he got the win.
Storen got the save and also looked good. Sat at 92/93 and didnt allow a baserunner.
Other prospects:
- C. Marrero (0-4)
- Gorkys Hernandez (0-4, I think)
- Chase D’Arnaud (0-2 – late game replacment)
BTW, Altoona’s park is one of the nicest minors’ parks I’ve seen.
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Mike Leake's day is through.
6.2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 7 BB, 5 K; 2-2 at the plate, 106 pitches
The walk number isn’t pretty, but I don’t think it’s terribly indicative of future issues. He was around the plate with everything and the ump was squeezing him pretty hard on a lot of calls, and they were, for the most part, strategic or excusable walks. One walk was on the first batter of his professional career, one was to load up the bases to set up the force play, two were him pitching around Soto with two outs to get to the pitcher, and two more were the last two batters he faced when he was obviously fatigued (he never should’ve come out to start the 7th, but it’s Dusty Baker, so you can’t expect anything else). All in all, a very nice start to his professional career, and he didn’t look overmatched by being in the bigs at all.
Of course, he’s probably going to get saddled with a loss, as the rest of the Reds have a total of one hit and one walk (both by Scott Rolen, one resulting in an asinine caught stealing) off of Tom Gorzelanny.
Command was not there
He through 57/106 for strikes, approximately 54 %, really not impressive at all. Ideally, you want at least 60 %, probably more. No command at times with some batters, even with his fastball. He had trouble commanding his slider from what I saw, but when it was on it was good. The slider and curve generated 11 swinging strikes by my count, which is probably the most encouraging thing. His fastball was mediocre from what I saw.
by tdot mariner fan on Apr 11, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Really like this kid
The Indians have some collection of young arms in their system.
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1/3, 3BB, 1 hit, 1K, 3 ER
2ER when he left
dude is REALLY raw
Good arm strength with lots of projection and good makeup, but tons of work to do in every facet of the game.
I think Hobgood is farther along
Both need a third pitch and Wheeler probably has the higher velocity ceiling, but Hobgood’s two-pitch mix is better right now.
Eh I don't know
He’s clearly not on Matzek/Turner level, but I don’t think he’s too far from Miller. I’d rank the first round high school arms like:
Matzek
Turner
(big space)
Miller
Wheeler
James
(space)
Hobgood
agree for the most part, cept i don't think its such a big space
Matzek
Turner
space
Miller
James
Wheeler
space
Hobgood
for now I'm thinking it's more like this
Turner
Matzek
James
Miller
Hobgood
Wheeler
Hobgood deserves a little more credit than he’s been getting.
Early Departure
injury or pitch count? If pitch count it must have been very very low strict count.
Meanwhile C Jax Williams 2/3 with his third double of the early season :-)
pitch count most likely
Teams usually have rules on their young pitchers throwing not just a certain number of pitches, but a single inning pitch limit. Don’t want the guy to stay out there too long without a break, easy way for a guy to get hurt.
on the bright side
he was checking in at 92-95 on the radar gun
watch him!
I wonder about the command, but really nice stuff.
Jesse Beal (Orioles)
5 IP, 5 H, 5 SO, 0 BB.
He walked eight batters in 74 innings last season. He’s tall (6’ 6") but has room to fill out. At spring training he told me he’s added about 10 pounds. He absolutely hates to walk batter. Could be special if his fastball picks up some velocity and he increases k rate.
Big sleeper.
Hickory
Matt Thompson: 5.0IP 7H 2R 1ER 0BB 7K 0HR GO/FO: 7-0 (Sleeper)
Miguel Velazquez: 3-4 2B BB CS
Leury Garcia: 1-3 3B 3RBI
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Keep us posted on Thompson
I’m sure I’ll forget to. You got a scouting report on him?
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by The Big Hurt on Apr 11, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
7th round pick in '08 got 2nd/3rd round money
89-92 hits 93mph fastball right now. His power overhand curveball is his best pitch which could profile as plus-plus in time. He also made big strides with his changeup last year after having almost zero experience with it.
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by Kinslerhomer on Apr 11, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So far so good
Maybe the eye thing really was a problem. Time for Hosmer to race back up next years top 100 boards.
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Posey destroying everything
2-4, HR, BB today
x
Kasey Kiker: 4.2IP 2H 3R 3ER 3BB HBP WP 7K 1HR
Ben Snyder: 2IP 0H 0R 0BB 4K
Joey Butler: 1-3 HR BB HBP
Justin Smoak: 1-3 HR 2BB 2E’s
Mitch Moreland: 1-3 3B BB
Chad Tracy: 1-5 2K
Max Ramirez: 0-3 BB K
Guillermo Moscoso: 4.0IP 3H 3R 2ER 1BB 1K 0HR
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RP in the bigs
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by Kinslerhomer on Apr 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That's 3 HRs in 4 games for Smoak, right?
And like 6 walks?
Absolute f***ing monster. Anyone who had him lower than 7th overall should be ashamed of themselves.
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that's a good showing, yes
But coming out of college, I think most were expecting power/patience out of him with the average being the question mark.
I’d also caution against small sample sizes. But no doubt he looks to be a premium player even at 1B.
Still same game
Miguel Gonzalez 2-5, 2B, SO.
1-2 in throwing out base runners
Now 5-8 throwing out base runners for the season.
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by The Big Hurt on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
this is from Saturday night, but oh well, writeup of ethan martin
So yesterday I got to hit up my first minor league game of the young season, and took in a pretty solid pitching matchup as Ethan Martin of the Inland Empire 66’ers faced Will Smith of the Rancho Cucamonga Quakes. OK, it didn’t end up quite the pitching matchup in the end, but the first five innings or so were pretty impressive. Today I’ll take a look at Ethan Martin, and I’ll try to do a write-up on Smith later in the week.
Martin is very athletic, especially for a pitcher. He looks more like a middle infielder, and he was a two way player coming up through High School. The former first round pick is listed at 6’2" and 195 pounds. Martin employs a simple delivery which he repeats very well. Last night Martin was primarily working with his fastball/curveball, and also mixed in a change, which is definitely his third pitch right now.
I didn’t get behind the plate until the second inning, and Martin was pitching at 92-93 for the most part, and hit 95 a few times. The pitch had good life, with late arm side movement. For the most part, Martin was able to command the strikezone with the fastball. Martin’s curveball is truly nasty. His curve was coming in around 80-84 with sharp two plane break. At one point he threw three straight curveballs to strike out a Quakes hitter, and all three had great break and good location. His command of the pitch, at least last night, was solid. A few times he didn’t get on top of the pitch and the pitch was well out of the strike zone, up and away to a lefthanded hitter. Martin’s third pitch is a change, and it lags well behind his two primary offerings. The pitch comes in with similar velocity to his curveball, ranging from 80-83. The change looks like it could be a split finger, as he starts with this grip as he takes the sign from the catcher. The pitch had inconsistent movement when he threw it, primarily when warming up. Sometimes the pitch had good armside fade and sink, while other times it appeared to be straighter with some sink. He lacked command with pitch last night.
Martin’s pitching line from last night was 5 IP, 3H, 0R, 0BB, and an impressive 9 K’s. One of the hits was an infield hit. I didn’t note his pitch count, but he only went the five innings since it was his first start of the year. I was very impressed with Martin. He delivers easy velo from his simple delivery and the ball comes out of his hand very easily. The development of his change up will determine his future. He should be, at least, a solid bullpen option similar to Scot Shields early in his career, when he was primarily a two pitch guy offering a plus fastball with a big curve. If the change develops he could be pitching behind Clayton Kershaw in the rotation, his first two pitches are THAT good.
I also have some video
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Lyles + things of interest from the low minors
Jordan Lyles AA debut: 4 2/3rds IP, 6 H, 3 R (3 ER), 1 BB, 4 K, also had 2 wild pitches despite throwing 59 of 81 pitches for strikes
Brody Colvin (Phillies’ 09 bonus baby): 4 IP, 9 H, 6 R (5 ER), 0 BB, 3 K, 1 HR allowed
Also note: Anthony Hewitt is hitting .400/.500/.700 through his first three games, only 1 strikeout in 11 PA thus far. If this guy is figuring things out at all, he’s got MAJOR helium as his tools are simply awesome.
Jack McGeary for Low A Hagerstown, former Nats bonus baby: 5 IP, 5 H, 2 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 5 K
Wilmer Flores has started off hot while repeating Low A, hitting .412 in his first 3 games.
Quinton Miller (the 08 bonus baby for Pittsburgh) made his full season debut: 5 IP, 3 H, 1 R (0 ER), 1 BB, 3 K)
Toolsy favorite Jerry Sands is at 1B for Great Lakes, and is now hitting .357/.474/.786 to start the year, with a 4/2 BB/K in his first 14 plate apperances.
Quinton Miller pitched in the SAL most of last season
He was just kept in extended spring training until short season started, then got 2 starts in the NYPL before being promoted.
Cubs
Kenny McNutt – 3 ip, 2 h, 2 bb, 7 K’s, 1:0 GO/FO. Filthy stuff. Still a bit unknown as to whether or not he can develop into a starter.
Su-min Jung – 4 ip, 1h, 2bb, 1 K, balk, HBP, 3:5 GO/FO,1 pickoff. Reportedly good secondary pitches to go with a solid enough fastball.
Hak-ju Lee – 2/4, 1 R, 1 2B.
Greg Rohan – 3/4, 2 RBI, 1 CS.
Chris Archer – 4 ip, 4 h, 1 bb, 1 HBP, 1:5 GO/FO, 5 K’s, 2 r. Control was a big issue in his past … looks like he’s making steady improvement.
Ryan Searle – 4 ip, 3h, 1 bb, 4 K’s, 5:2 GO/FO, 2 R. Young Aussie sinkerballer.
Brett Jackson, 2/4, 2 R, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 2 K.
DJ LeMahieu – 3/6, 1 2B, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 E.
Josh Vitters – 3/5, 2 R, 2 2B, 3 RBI.
Hung-Wen Chen – 5 ip, 4 h, 1 bb, 2 K’s, 1 R, 6:5 GO/FO. 67 pitches, 43 strikes.
Alessandro Maestri – 2 ip, 1bb, 3 K’s, 3:0 GO/FO, 29 pitches, 20 K’s. Coming off injury last year, his control was poor. Good showing. If on, he has a nasty slider to go with a fb that can get into the mid-90’s.
Casey Coleman – 6 ip, 4 h, 3 r (1 unearned), 4 K’s, 1 HR, 8:6 GO/FO, 78 pitches, 54 strikes.
Odorizzi
In that weird pitching tandem the Brewers do, none the less pitched very well.
3IP
1H
0ER
1BB
4K
Giovany Soto
5 IP, 1 R, 2 H, 1 BB, 10 Ks.
He’s a 18 year old lefty with Detroit’s MWL team. Anybody know anything about him?
Hmmm
How is the dude supposed to throw a pitch in the MWL and then get to Wrigley to catch it? That will be better than anything Heyward could do.
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