Trayvon Robinson(LAD) Scouting Report
http://www.memoriesofkevinmalone.com/2010/03/prospect-profiles-2010-trayvon-robinson.html
Video of Robinson hitting HR in taiwan last week.
Overview-A tenth round pick out of high school way back in 2005, Robinson didn't do a whole lot of impressing in his first two seasons as a professional. His collection of tools always had significant upside, but he didn't seem to be able to put it all together. While Robinson showed signs of improvement in 2008, i'll be the first to admit that I didn't think that highly of him coming into the 2009 season. Of course, he ended up proving all his doubters wrong, as he took a huge leap forward last year. Then, after a late season promotion, proceeded to hold his own against advanced pitching. 2010 is the year for Robinson to prove that his progress in 2009 was no fluke, and if he does, he'll find himself near the top of a lot of prospect lists.
Hitting-Robinson has a fluid swing from both sides of the plate, and he generates surprising bat speed for somebody his size. He uses the whole field well from the left and the right, and he has good gap power with room for growth. Assuming progress continues, it's not unrealistic to say he could end up closer to 20 homers than 10.
You usually expect lefties to have a natural lift in their swing, but Robinson has a much flatter bat path when batting southpaw. I assume this was purposely designed to take advantage of his speed, but it could limit his long term power potential from that side of the plate. On the flip side of things, Robinson's right handed stroke is much more explosive and aggressive. It has good natural loft, and he seems far more comfortable letting the ball travel deep in the zone before pulling the trigger.
Slowly but surely, Robinson is learning how to recognize pitches, but it'll have to continue for him to cut down on strikeouts and increase walks. As a result of the large weight shift in his swing, he has a tendency to hit off his front foot, which constantly leaves him lunging at quality breaking balls, especially ones that are away from him. That said, if he learns to limit the impact of these flaws, then there's nothing stopping Robinson from producing a .275-.285/.345-.355/.445-.455 line with 13-17 homers in the majors.
Fielding-Robinson has the range and athleticism to stick in center field, but the questions about his defense involve his routes and jumps. The upside is that routes and jumps can be taught, while speed and athleticism cannot. Unfortunately, I actually think his defense regressed a bit from last year, which would raise questions about exactly how much progress he's making. That said, if we learned anything from prospect discussions about Matt Kemp, it's that we shouldn't simply write off an athletic toolsy outfielder to a corner because he looks lost at times. Unlike Kemp though, Robinson's arm isn't anything special, so if he were to move to a corner, it would be to left field, where he likely profiles as a plus defender.
Baserunning-He has plus speed, but it's a tick short of elite level. Fortunately, he possesses solid baserunning instincts and awareness. Robinson's baserunning is underrated because of his high caught stealing totals, but that was more a function of being forced to run as practice than being anything indicative of how he will perform at the major league level. Sure, he's still a work in progress as a base stealer, even he admitted as much, but I saw a fluid and aware baserunner that could take extra bases and scored when he needed to.
Mental-Robinson has a bit of a reputation for his temper and questionable character, but it all seems unfounded. Yes, he gets frustrated at times, but the way he expresses that frustration is not any different from what you see when Andre Ethier grounds into a double play. Robinson plays like a man driven to succeed, and he gets angry sometimes when he doesn't. Honestly, I see more passion and drive in his outbursts than a bad attitude.
Health-No significant injury history that i'm aware of.
Performance-Even in retrospect, there was little in Robinson's profile that indicated last year's breakout was coming. In 2006 and 2007, he posted mediocre lines of .254/.340/.381/.720 and .253/.314/.311/.625, respectively. Even in 2008, when he made more contact (23.7 K%|30.1 K%) and upped his ISO (.109/.058), his line (.276/.328/.385/.713) was uninspiring and his walk rate (6.7 BB%|7.2 BB%) regressed.
Sure, there were some signs of a better player to come, but nothing like what happened in 2009, when he blitzed the California League to the tune of a .306/.375/.500/.875 line, showing a huge surge in power (.194 ISO) and patience (9.5 BB%). His strikeout rate was still a problem (26.6 K%), but the power spike made it more palatable. Furthermore, Robinson ended up stealing 43 bases in A-ball, and even though he got caught 18 times, it shows that potential on the basepaths certainly exists.
After getting a well earned promotion to AA, Robinson held his own against advanced pitching. He posted a .797 OPS, his power held steady (.193 ISO), and he actually walked more frequently (14.3 BB%). However, his strikeouts did spike (31.6 K%), but I sort of expected that in his first limited exposure to advanced breaking balls. Perhaps most importantly though, Robinson is finally learning to hit effectively from both sides of the plate, as he actually posted a higher OPS as a southpaw than as a righty last year.
In light of all the positive, remember that it was only one year. The high offensive output of the California League further complicates things, and Robinson will need to have a good showing in 2010 against advanced pitching to prove he deserves to be a top prospect in the system. He doesn't need to own AA like he did high-A, but a nice skills consolidation year would legitimize his overall progress as a player.
Other-I previously had the pleasure of interviewing him, and my overall impression was very positive. Good sense of humor, down to earth, and he probably showed better poise than I did.
Projection-Robinson's ceiling is promising because of his tools, and if he keeps developing, there's a chance he could become a .285/.350/.455/.810 hitter with 15 homers and 30 steals. Maybe an .810 OPS doesn't sound so impressive, but it would probably put him within the top 25 outfielders in the league. Defensively, Robinson has the tools to stick at center, and he could end up above average if improvement to his reads and jumps eventually come.
As promising as that sounds, there's a large gap between that potential player and the guy he is now. Robinson has a lot to prove in 2010, and as it currently stands, there's still a strong possibility he could end up as a fourth outfielder type. Personally though, i'm currently of the belief that Robinson should continue to show enough progress with his swing and plate discipline that he gets close to his offensive potential. However, I think his defense profiles best in left field, where he could be a plus defender for the team and provide value that way.
He should begin 2010 at AA, but could get a call in September if he performs as expected. If Robinson does continue his meteoric rise, there's an outfield job waiting for him in 2011.
He hits an absolute bomb to straight away center for a home run in taiwan on march 14 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5zt_3o22xc&feature=related
some may say his season was just a cal league mirage... but i think this guy is a future stud and he will have a lot to prove next year in AA
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Im really excited
If he has another good year this year, it’s Lambo v Robinson v Paul for the LF job…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
At this point, I don't know if Lambo projects to be in LA's future as much
He was pretty unimpressive in Double-A last season and there are major questions about how he’ll fit defensively. If the bat isn’t really good, he’s really not much of a player, and this is a guy who just posted a .256/.311/.407 line in full season of Double-A ball. Yeah, he’s 21 so there’s still a chance that his bat takes a couple steps forward.
But right now, I think that Robinson is in LA’s plans far more firmly than Lambo going forward.
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by Satchel Price on Mar 18, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lambo
I’m not sure why people are so willing to give up on a 20 year ld that skipped a level and then struggled. Most prospects would of struggled the same way Lambo did. Of course he defense may not be suited for LF which will hurt his value, but I’m willing to see what happens with more adjustment time for him in the high minors.
I get it even less
when you consider that a lot of the decline is BABIP-related. I know that BABIP is a stat that hitters have some control over, but when you consider that the other data we have suggests that he is hitting the ball hard (a .150 ISOP and a 20% LD rate), it seems like his .298 BABIP has a significant element of luck. Ironically, I was a little worried last year when I saw his K rate spiking in A ball – but now that he’s shown he can make contact with moderate power in AA as a 20 yo, I’m more optimistic about his chances to be an impact hitter
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by OldProspects on Mar 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
One lousy year doesn’t equal a “failed prospect” in my mind. Let’s give him another season and then see.
by wonderphenom on Mar 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you not followed the Dodgers and then say he will be bad because he struggled in AA as a 20 year old who skipped a level?
I mean, last offseason he was as high or higher than Heyward on many lists. Yet, because he struggled as a 20 year old, he sucks and will never be anything? Here, this is Chad/Kensai’s writeup on Lambo(he’s the same guy who wrote the report above:
Overview-Lambo was taken out of high school in the fourth round of the 2007 draft. His talent was never in doubt, but character issues caused his stock to plummet. The Dodgers ended up taking a chance on him, and they probably aren’t disappointed with how he has turned out. Early on, Lambo moved up the minor league ladder quickly, reaching AA in 2008 at the age of 20. Unfortunately, Lambo’s prospect status took a large hit in 2009, as he got himself into a funk in early May and was unable to get himself out of it all year. He did bounce back with a solid performance in the Arizona Fall League that generated some momentum and confidence going into the 2010 season, but he now has more to prove than ever before.
Hitting-Talent wise, not much has changed from last year. His combination of good bat speed and good bat control allows him to make consistent hard contact. Lambo uses his hips well and shows the leverage necessary for future power, though he’s currently more of a gap to gap type of hitter. He has always had a mature approach at the plate, and he likes to spray the ball to all fields. Lambo’s short swing and solid mechanics allow him to let the ball travel deep into the zone, which should serve him well as he moves levels.
The main area of concern with Lambo is his current lack of plate discipline and pitch recognition. The two skills can still develop sufficiently because his swing mechanics allow the ball to travel deep, but there wasn’t any noticeable improvement in 2009. Lambo continued to chase balls out of the zone and didn’t show that he had a strong grasp of the strike zone. Of course, we all know now that plate discipline and pitch recognition are key factors in a player’s development, so Lambo is going to have to show improvement in 2010 to gain his top prospect status back.
Fielding-Lambo isn’t as bad a fielder as you likely believe. As I mentioned last year, he reads balls well off the bat and is coordinated enough to make athletic plays from time to time. He does have poor speed, so that naturally limits his range, but he’s no butcher in the field. Lambo’s arm is likely good enough for right, but it plays much better in left, as it’s above average in strength and flashes good accuracy on throws to the plate.
I believe a move to first base is unnecessary, and any reports of how his defense may improve there is pure guess work, as he has played the position sparingly as a professional. There is nothing concrete to show that Lambo would be significantly better defensively at the position, and he would need to be in order to make up for the loss in positional value due to the switch.
Baserunning-Lambo is not going to steal bases, as he doesn’t have great instincts and possesses poor acceleration. He’s not towing a trailer out there, but his wheels are well below average.
Mental-There have been recent growing concerns about his effort, but keep in mind that those criticisms only magically started to appear when he had a down year. Lambo did seem to struggle dealing with failure for the first time, but that’s not unusual for a young kid. The general consensus on his makeup is still positive, so there doesn’t seem to be any red flag here.
Health-No serious injury history that I am aware of.
Performance-In 2009 more than ever before, Lambo’s performance paled in comparison to his raw ability, particularly with the bat. His slash numbers of .256/.311/.407/.717 were a huge disappointment, and his power development took a small step back (.174 ISO/.150 ISO). Of course, it was Lambo’s first crack at advanced pitching, and he was 20 years old, so in that context I think he deserves a bit more rope before everybody starts to hang him.
For all the obvious negatives in his surface statistics, there were some hidden positives that would seem to indicate a resurgence next year. Lambo’s strikeout rate actually dropped (23.3%/19.3%) while facing tougher pitching, and his walk rate remained relatively stable (7.9%/7.3%). More importantly, Lambo posted a .298 BABIP, which is 51 points below his previous career low. While a slight BABIP drop is expected as a player moves up in competition, it’s still more than a little unlucky for a guy who maintained a similar GB%/LD%/FB% split (45.0/20.6/33.9 In 2008|43.8/19.8/35.9 In 2009). If we were to give Lambo a BABIP of even .330, then his slash line becomes about .285/.336/.451/.787, which isn’t great, but it’s certainly not fall off the map bad.
Personally though, i’m not worried about his slash line at all, as my biggest concern is how his peripherals will advance going forward. I fully understand that moving up to face advanced pitching isn’t a situation that exactly fosters growth, but since he’ll be repeating the level in 2010, I want to see strikeout rate maintenance, an improved walk rate, and better power production. If at least a couple of those things don’t happen, then I think it’s only fair that he gets dropped significantly. I’m holding on and monitoring his 2010 for now though.
It’s worth noting that Lambo has a rather peculiar reverse split in his numbers. He’s a career .895 OPS hitter against lefties, but a career .755 OPS hitter against righties. That trend continued at AA (.785 OPS/.690 OPS), and i’m not quite sure what to make out of it. An inability to hit righties would be hugely problematic, as most pitchers are right handed, but I still can’t believe this is a real problem going forward because it’s such an oddity. My instinct is to say it’s more likely that the split eventually evens out, and it becomes more of a positive that he can handle lefties at such a young age.
Overall, the statistical year Lambo had was always a possibility in his first full exposure to advanced pitching. Personally, I think evaluators are putting far too much stock into a one year sample. The underlying skills and tools are still there, but the breakout just didn’t come. Of course, it’s possible that the breakout may never come, but i’m willing to wait more than one year before dropping him from a potential impact player in the system to a reserve outfielder like some have.
Other-In his earlier high school days, Lambo was caught cutting class and smoking weed. However, he had no real trouble towards the end of high school career. Going into the draft, there were reports that Lambo showed a bad attitude in interviews, but since getting drafted by the Dodgers, Lambo seems to have matured. I’m not concerned about his commitment to baseball at this point.
Projection-Lambo did appear overmatched at AA at times, but while others predictably abandon the very bandwagon they started last year, I didn’t really notice a drop in ability level, so i’ll be staying on for the ride. In my opinion, Lambo is in a similar situation as last year, as he is one breakout performance away from vaulting himself to the top of the Dodgers system. Unlike last year though, time is starting to work against him, and he’s going to have to make improvements soon.
I still believe that Lambo’s ceiling is about the same as last year. At his best, he could be a borderline All-Star in left field, perhaps hitting 25-30 homers with a .285-.295 average. It’s also possible that he ends up an average defender in left. Unfortunately, there is the downside that Lambo could fail to progress unless his plate discipline and pitch recognition improve. Regardless, I think he ends up sticking in left field defensively and ends up as average to above average regular there.
Lambo will undoubtedly repeat AA in 2010, and I think he needs to remain there the entire year, regardless of how well he does. Assuming that he shows progress, there aren’t any obstacles preventing Lambo from possibly stepping into a major league role in 2011.
To think that Lambo is completely out of the LA plans after one bad season is extremely premature.
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
nice
I really liked the write up, and all of them really that he does. Trayvon is a pretty interesting where he brings obv tools yet still has glaring flaws he needs to over come and 2010 will defiantly be a big year for him. Also I watched that video over and over and I’m still not sure how he hit it that far, thanks for posting.
one thing
that he has really going for him that the Regie Abercrombie, Reggie Taylor, George Lombard, Charleton Jimerson, crowd did not- he actually has a clue at the plate and takes pretty good plate discipline with him.
If he can just hit .250, he carries value with his power/speed/discipline combo
FYI
Robinson was sent down after yesterday’s game… looked good in the action he did get
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
He made good reads in center field, which bodes well for his defense. Granted, it was only like three innings, but it’s something.

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