Rank These SP Prospects Strictly Based on Ceiling...

by DJSlam on Feb 18, 2010 3:25 PM EST

My goal here is to find out of these pitchers which have the best stuff, and at their ceiling have ace potential. I haven't had a chance to watch most of them and for some that are from this year's draft, I really don't have ML numbers to go by, so any help would be much appreciated.

Casey Crosby

Tyler Matzek

Jacob Turner

Julio Teheran

Chris Withrow

Aaron Crow

Tanner Scheppers

Alex Colome

Mike Leake

Arodys Vizcaino

Zach Wheeler

Mike Minor

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Strictly based on stuff,

I’d say Matzek has to be #1 on this list.

by soxkid on Feb 18, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions

What about for your top 5?

by DJSlam on Feb 18, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions

I'd go....

Matzek
Turner
Crosby
Teheran
Colome
Vizcaino
Wheeler
Withrow
Scheppers
Crow
Leake
Minor

by Kerm on Feb 18, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions

+1

I like this order, though I’d put Scheppers at the very bottom – I keep hearing he could end up a reliever in the end.

by FI2 on Feb 18, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions

You keep hearing that...

because of injury concerns. ‘Ceiling’ he should be #1 or #2.

by rothe on Feb 18, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions

Good point...

I’d move him up on my list before down. He does have #1 potential if his change comes around and his shoulder stays healthy. Most guys on this list have #1 upside/ceiling though. Crow, Leake and Minor are really the only ones who have no chance.

by Kerm on Feb 18, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions

Fair enough

by FI2 on Feb 18, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions

Looks good

I’d move Wheeler down, but I like most of these placements.

by Jeff Reese on Feb 18, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions

If all you care about is ceiling, I’d think Teheran/Scheppers have to be close to the top. All of them are pretty good and most have insane stuff but I’d probably put those 2 near the top with some combination of Turner, Matzek, and Crosby following them (probably in that order for me).

by jfish26101 on Feb 18, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions

Well...

put the guy with the best stuff at #1. I’d probably go Croaby at #1 since he’s a high velocity lefty.

by Havok1517 on Feb 18, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions

Matzek

is pretty close in velocity. I think he was throwing upper 90’s prior to the draft.

by Kerm on Feb 18, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions

Matzek...

has a higher ceiling because he combines the velocity with command and other plus pitches.

by joegonzo on Feb 18, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions

hmmm, based on ceiling

Scheppers
Chris Withrow
Tyler Matzek
Arodys Vizcaino
Casey Crosby
Julio Teheran
Alex Colome
Aaron Crow
Jacob Turner
Zach Wheeler
Mike Leake
Mike Minor

by daveh33 on Feb 18, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions

Interesting....

You have Withrow very high and Turner pretty low compared to Kerms list.

by DJSlam on Feb 18, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

Ceiling?

Scheppers
Teheran
Matzek
Turner
Withrow
Vizcaino
Crosby
Wheeler
Crow
Leake
Minor

by joegonzo on Feb 18, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions

Ceiling

Scheppers
Teheran
Vizcaino
Matzek
Crosby
Turner
Withrow
Wheeler
Crow
Leake
Minor

by smscardinals1 on Feb 18, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions

Leake

Not getting a lot of love this offseason. I get the sense he’s quite underrated and will surprise a lot of people this season

-1 and only member of the Jed Lowrie fan club!

by Jgaztambide on Feb 18, 2010 6:15 PM EST reply actions

+1

by rmarx on Feb 18, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions

I like him alot...

but this is about upside and he is going against some guys with a ton of upside. I could see him being a good number 3 and getting there really quickly, but guys like Scheppers could be much more.

by joegonzo on Feb 18, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions