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San Diego Padres Organization Discussion

I am now working on the Tigers and should have them finished shortly. The next team on the list is the San Diego Padres, to be followed by the Boston Red Sox. Use this thread to discuss the Padres organization.

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Kelly, Rizzo, Fuentes

Definately help this systems overall depth and grade.

I think I’d go with Castro 1 and Kelly 2 for now though.

by hrv2010 on Dec 21, 2010 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

+1

I’d place Castro over Kelly at this point in time.

by polyrhythm07 on Dec 21, 2010 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Low level underperformers

I am very interested to get some feedback on Donavan Tate & Everett Williams.

I know Tate has had injury troubles but the talent is still there.
Williams had a horrible year.

I think this is a good system—especially with the addition of the Boston trio: Castro, Decker, Darnell, Cumberland, Keyvius, & Gyorko.

Keyvius may be one of my favorite low level SP prospects.

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

by Savoy on Dec 22, 2010 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

Love Sampson. He could be really, really special.

The shoulder injury last year scares me a little though. Anyone heard any word on how he is progressing?

by polyrhythm07 on Dec 22, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tate struggled with injuries all year.

If/when he learns to stay healthy, the talent should start to show. As jaded as many Padres fans are about first round draft picks, the guy’s only 19 (18?). He needs a couple years.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 22, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that this system was generally underrated last year,

excluding of John’s rating.. I remember him also thinking that this system was underrated.

I believe that there are a lot of potential breakout performances to be had this year (Darnell, Decker, a few others that elude me at the moment). It seemed a few of the mid tier prospects in this system struggled out the gate but then completely exploded post All-Star break.

by polyrhythm07 on Dec 22, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

There were a LOT of injuries...

Tate, J. Decker, Darnell, Luebke, Forsythe, Cumberland, etc…

But yeah, it’s a DEEP system.

http://www.friarhood.com/on-the-farm/659-san-diego-padres-top-30-prospects-for-2011.html?showall=1

-peter

by PeterF on Dec 22, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Dang

I had forgotten all about Kulbacki.

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

by Savoy on Dec 22, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s given you plenty of reason to do so!

by realitypolice on Dec 22, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't sleep on Kulbacki...

…he had follow-up surgury on his shoulder(s) (I can’t remember if I heard he needed the both done or not)… If he gets back on track, he and Decker would both be huge bats in the system.

-peter

by PeterF on Dec 22, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like Jaff Decker would be best used as a trade chip to an AL team

who can either play him at first base or stash him at DH. The guy’s got a special bat, but there are serious concerns about his ability to play the outfield.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 22, 2010 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

Really???

Um, no there aren’t…

Dude played a solid CF in the AZL coming out of HS, he threw 93 off the mound in HS so he can handle RF, look at his SB numbers (10 out of 16 in ’09, 5 out of 9 in an injury-marred ’10). Is he destined for LF, yeah, most likely, but there are no questions he can handle LF or RF for now.

-peter

by PeterF on Dec 22, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It's too bad that the Karsten Whitson pick fell through.

The Padres’ system has been improving a couple years now, and would have looked even better with Whitson in low A ball. As it stands though, there’s a nice wave of talent on its way up.

My name is Guybrush Threepwood, and I'm a mighty pirate.
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Faceless slider-tossing goofs FTW.

by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 22, 2010 1:59 AM EST reply actions  

Parrino

Very good AFL, any shot of him getting a utility like role?

by gpellet41 on Dec 22, 2010 7:31 AM EST reply actions  

I could see it as a possibility

He’s not very big, but he has pretty good pop for a middle infielder and enough defensive aptitude to handle some shortstop on a fill-in basis. I think he does enough things well enough to give him a chance at being a supersub type.

by mrkupe on Dec 22, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Sleeper arms

There are a couple of young lefties from their Latin American program that really flew under the radar last year despite strong performances…
Juan Oramas didn’t turn 20 until May and posted a 3.00 ERA and 90/26 ratio in 88 Cal League innings. He’s a lefty with solid pop on his fastball. He led the Mexican League in ERA in 2009 (as a 19 year old), and because he was out of the country, few people noticed him coming into the year. B- guy to me right now.
Coming back from surgery, Jose DePaula, 20, had a nice campaign on rationed innings in Ft. Wayne. Because of the injury and only working 85 innings in 2010, I think he’s off most radar screens right now. I don’t believe he will be in 12 months. FB velocity was most of the way back in his last few starts, and he could be a big jumper as a lefty starter this year. B-/C+ guy now, with significant opportunity to move up this year.

Not nearly as much of a sleeper on the mound is Matt Lollis, who has a chance to be really special and will likely open the year in Elsinore. My guess is as they let him loose with his breaking stuff a bit more this season (they really harped on developing the change last year), his K rate will go up. With his fastball starting to catch up to his size, he could easily be at the top of the list next year. I might put him #5 on the list right now and think he’s a B at the moment.

Last name worth watching this year is Drew Miller, who came back from TJ surgery in late June. Really liked his heavy fastball before the injury and think he’s an upside C+ prospect right now.

by realitypolice on Dec 22, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Brain dead!

Jeremy McBryde… Always thought they looked alike. If Miller had McBryde’s tenacity, he would have been one hell of a pitcher.

by realitypolice on Dec 22, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I like McBryde too. Hope he has a bounceback year.

by limozeen on Dec 23, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Lesser-name bats for consideration

Blake Tekotte – He has the combination of tools and skills to play CF in Petco Park. He hit the tar out of the ball in the Cal League, and had a very solid .832 OPS once he got promoted … if you only look at his road numbers. I really think the combination of league split and major suppression by Lew Wolff Stadium masked what was a very good year for him. At the very least, he’ll probably carve out a career as a reserve outfielder, with upside as a starter in center. C+/B-
Dan Robertson – He’s too old, too small and doesn’t look the part, but all he does is get on base. He doesn’t strike out; he’s a smart baserunner and he’s a guy you have to root for. They moved him to 2B in instructs and is apparently the reason they were willing to trade away Cole Figueroa (who was on the top of my Padre sleeper list before that move). Not anything more than a C, but he’s not a guy to bet against.
Jason Hagerty – generally disregarded before 2010, he answered the questions about whether he could stay behind the plate, and posted a 900 OPS as a switch-hitter in the process. He’ll be 23 next year and it will be interesting to see if they jump him to San Antonio over the better receiver in front of him, Robert Lara. I’m guessing he spends the first half in Elsinore. B-.

by realitypolice on Dec 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

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