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Washington Nationals Top 20 Prospects for 2011

Washington Nationals Top 20 Prospects for 2011

All grades are EXTREMELY PRELIMINARY and subject to change. Don't get too concerned about exact rankings at this point, especially once you get past the Top 10. Grade C+/C guys are pretty interchangeable depending on what you want to emphasize.

Feel free to critique the list, but use logic and reason rather than polemics to do to. The list and grades are a blending of present performance and long-term potential. Full reports on all of players can be found in the 2011 Baseball Prospect Book. We are now taking pre-orders. Order early and order often!

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QUICK PRIMER ON GRADE MEANINGS:

Grade A prospects are the elite. They have a good chance of becoming stars or superstars. Almost all Grade A prospects develop into major league regulars, if injuries or other problems don't intervene. Note that is a major "if" in some cases.

Grade B prospects have a good chance to enjoy successful careers. Some will develop into stars, some will not. Most end up spending several years in the majors, at the very least in a marginal role.

Grade C prospects are the most common type. These are guys who have something positive going for them, but who may have a question mark or three, or who are just too far away from the majors to get an accurate feel for. A few Grade C guys, especially at the lower levels, do develop into stars. Many end up as role players or bench guys. Some don't make it at all.

A major point to remember is that grades for pitchers do NOT correspond directly to grades for hitters. Many Grade A pitching prospects fail to develop, often due to injuries. Some Grade C pitching prospects turn out much better than expected.

Also note that there is diversity within each category. I'm a tough grader; Grade C+ is actually good praise coming from me, and some C+ prospects turn out very well indeed.

Finally, keep in mind that all grades are shorthand. You have to read the full comment for my full opinion about a player, the letter grade only tells you so much. A Grade C prospect in rookie ball could end up being very impressive, while a Grade C prospect in Triple-A is likely just a future role player.

Washington Nationals Top 20 Prospects for 2011

1) Bryce Harper, OF, Grade A: The hype is justified.

2) Derek Norris, C, Grade B+: Could be another Mickey Tettleton or Gene Tenace, low batting average slugger with a high walk rate. I am more optimistic about his glove than some people.

3) Danny Espinosa, INF, Grade B: Borderline B+. Don't expect a great batting average, but should do everything else well. A lot of people seem to like him slightly more than I do, but I worry that the batting average and OBP may be lower than expected.

4) Sammy Solis, LHP, Grade B: Probably won't need much minor league time.

5) A.J. Cole, RHP, Grade B: One of my favorite high school pitchers from the 2010 draft, I like the fact they put out the money to sign him.

6) Wilson Ramos, C, Grade B-: Like the glove. The bat I have mixed feelings about, expect some good years and some bad ones.

7) Robbie Ray, LHP, Grade B-: Another '10 high school pitcher I like a lot, projectable and athletic lefty. Grade is aggressive.

8) Michael Burgess, OF, Grade C+: Borderline B-. Power, arm strength, don't expect batting average.

9) Eury Perez, OF, Grade C+: Intriguing speed demon, small-ball guy, bunts, fields well. Will he hit at higher levels?

10) Rich Hague, SS, Grade C+: I like the bat, but the glove looks like a problem.

11) Cole Kimball, RHP, Grade C+: Looks like he can help in relief very quickly.

12) J.P. Ramirez, OF, Grade C+: Breakthrough candidate with the bat.

13) Chris Marrero, 1B, Grade C+: Well, he can hit...but probably not enough to be a first baseman for a good team.

14) Steve Lombardozzi, 2B, Grade C+: I seem to like him more than other people, but the guy can field and has hit well for two years.

15) Brad Meyers, RHP, Grade C+: Strike-thrower who has been a favorite of mine for awhile, missed most of season with a foot injury>

16) Brad Peacock, RHP, Grade C+: FIPs are consistently better than his ERAs, and he has a good arm.

17) A.J. Morris, RHP, Grade C+: I like him better than the numbers say I should.

18) Tyler Moore, 1B, Grade C: I realize that other sources and most Nationals fans rank him much higher, probably due to his hot second half. But he's older than Marrero, a level behind him, and I don't like the reports about holes in his swing or his BB/K ratio.

19) Tom Milone, LHP, Grade C: Great Double-A numbers of course despite lack of stuff. I might be underestimating him.

20) Daniel Rosenbaum, LHP, Grade C: Tom Milone Part Two?

OTHERS OF NOTE: Adrian Alaniz, RHP; Justin Bloxom, 1B; Adam Carr, RHP; Paul Demny, RHP; Dave Freitas, C; Tyler Hanks, RHP; Destin Hood, OF; Taylor Jordan, RHP; Blake Kelso, INF; Jeff Kobernus, 2B; Jason Martinson, INF; Yunesky Maya, RHP; Randolph Oduber, OF; Tanner Roark, RHP; Atahualpa Severino, LHP; Josh Smoker, LHP; Josh Wilkie, RHP; Rob Wort, RHP.

I fully buy into Bryce Harper, and I don't know what else to say about him really. If he keeps his head on straight and avoids injuries, he's going to be excellent.

Beyond him, there isn't a huge amount of upside, beyond the exceptions of projectable high school arms A.J. Cole and Robbie Ray. Norris and Espinosa look like strong productive regulars though they won't win batting titles. There are several guys who could be good utility infielders, some who should be useful mid-to-back-end rotation guys, several potential bullpen options and role players.

It isn't a bad system by any means, but an awful lot rides on the shoulders of Bryce Harper.

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B- on Harper for me

Kidding.

Conspicuous lack of Jack McGeary on this list. Too bad, I had high hopes for him and that entire situation.

by fps31520 on Nov 27, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

That's actually a good point

McGreary was starting to make some progress this year and had a Tommy John a couple months into the year. He’s as on my radar as Smoker is at this point. Smoker was closing at low full season A Hagerstown to try to salvage his prospect status. McGreary could still bounce back with Tommy John and a full baseball commitment. Hope he’s committed to the game enough to rehab well and show something next year.

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by souldrummer on Nov 29, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

2B Kobernus has really fallen that far?

Hmmm… he must be at least a very solid “C” grade i suppose

Yeah I’d have Millone a few spots higher but generally speaking i agree with the placement/ assesment on him

interesting seems like a OF, C , P depth system with Danny Espinosa as a solid “B” as well

I called it - Joe Mauer's first career Home-Run at Target Field !!!

Why Oh Why did the D'Backs select A.J. Pollock over Mike Trout?

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by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Nov 27, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone have more on Lombardozzi?

Just judging by his numbers, he seems to have good speed, good strike zone judgment, and had a bit of a power spike this year too. Has he just been overshadowed by the other young middle infielders in the system or is he just not that good?

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html

by hero66 on Nov 27, 2010 8:17 PM EST reply actions  

Believe that he's kind of a heady ballplayer as opposed to a toolsy ballplayer

He’d probably be ranked higher if he could play anywhere on the diamond but second base. He doesn’t have the arm and range from short, which is where you wish his bat could play and he doesn’t have a utility infielder floor. I like him to and think he’s rated about right.

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by souldrummer on Nov 27, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"

www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html

by hero66 on Nov 27, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

thoughts on maya?

how much improvement should be expected of him in 2011/beyond?

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Nov 27, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

I feel Maya should be a C+

He’s pitching solidly in winter ball as well if you need more data. Here’s the link to Federal Baseball’s most recent story.

He’s another command and control guy but he’s already AAA and he should get every shot to make the club. Don’t know how much you want to penalize him due to his age and other stuff. Really felt he was making the cultural adjustment and getting back into form after extended time off with the immigration and signing issues. I don’t think he’s a major difference guy but he seems to have a high floor and a low ceiling. Certainly at least AAA guy who will probably make the roster next year.

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by souldrummer on Nov 27, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with you on that

Simply because he’s really, really likely to provide at least some value to the club, which some of the other C+ ranked arms (both in this system and others) aren’t nearly as likely to do, and that he’s had such a ridiculously small body of work across AAA/MLB.

by Blicks on Nov 27, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

could be.

Could be too low with a C. will think about it.

by John Sickels on Nov 28, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm..

Solis over Cole?

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by Lionsroar10 on Nov 27, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

I do, however, like those two grades

Both are B prospects for me as well.

http://bullpenbanter.com/

by Jeff Reese on Nov 27, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

cole

Well Cole has the higher upside, but Solis is safer..you can flip them depending on what you like. They get the same grade and I’m more concerned with that.

by John Sickels on Nov 28, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Espinosa

Really don’t like that grade. He does need to refine his plate discipline, but I think the power helps mitigate that concern. He should be a plus defender if the Nats keep him at 2B.

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by Jeff Reese on Nov 27, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe I'm misinterpreting the information

but it seems to me like he would have a pretty good chance to be above average if not plus even if he stayed at SS, supposedly he does everything defensively (barring a fringy arm) and then some.

by Navi's_Navy on Nov 27, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that as well

But both Manuel and Goldstein’s recent reports on him said his athleticism is a touch light for SS.

http://bullpenbanter.com/

by Jeff Reese on Nov 27, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a fringy arm

Not sure what Manuel and Goldstein actually mean, unless “athleticism” is to baseball what “energetic” is to basketball. But Espinosa has both the strength and accuracy you’d want for a SS arm.

by Sue Dinem on Nov 28, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with this

Saw him several times. He’s shown amazing range and arm strength at 2B. He’s probably more consistent and steadier at SS than Desmond is and many have said he’s likely to be a better defender than Desmond. Agree with the grade because his OBP seems to drop a bit at each level. He needs a different approach.

Not mentioned in his current grade but he’s having hamate bone surgery as well. If that saps his power next year and power is his main offensive tool, folks will have to be patient with him next year like they were with Norris this year.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

espinosa

I went back and forth on that between B and B+. Still undecided for the book.

by John Sickels on Nov 28, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a little surprised

you are considering a B+. Put me solidly in the “I don’t care if you can hit 20 HRs if you can’t get on base” camp. I just don’t see the ability to get on base enough to justify giving him enough ABs to let him pile up the power numbers

by ADLC on Nov 29, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

You might want to add “unless you’re an up-the-middle player with significant defensive value” to that.

by limozeen on Nov 29, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see why this is a big issue

His walk rate isn’t that bad; .330-.340 seems attainable.

http://bullpenbanter.com/

by Jeff Reese on Nov 29, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know where you want to put him, but Milone seems to a better pitcher than some of the other guys on this list

They might be converting Morris to a reliever. Peacock has command issues despite his stuff. Meyers hasn’t shown he can stay healthy and is his stuff that much better than Milone’s? I’d give Milone a C+.

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by souldrummer on Nov 27, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

To me, Milone is the pitching equivalent of Lombardozzi

Lacks tools but has produced. Whatever you think of Lombardozzi is about whatever makes sense to think of Milone.

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by souldrummer on Nov 27, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm curious about why he likes Burgess over Marrero

I agree with him, but I believe I’m kind of a minority voice in Natstown on that one. I think that we’ve seen close to Marrero’s ceiling and there’s that minor chance that Burgess will continue to address strike zone issues or wind up a decent left handed half of an outfield platoon. Burgess had a rough AFL and that’s got folks in Natstown down on him as well.

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by souldrummer on Nov 27, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

just curious

Why do you think Marrero is close to as good now as he’ll ever be? Slow bat?

by mrkupe on Nov 28, 2010 4:48 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems like every year we downgrade the guy waiting for the breakout that doesn't happen

He seems to hang on long enough to produce that same kind of line that he has this year at each level in the minors. But if he produces a line comparable at MLB he’s a not really dominant bat with poor defense. He has to breakout at AAA for me to believe and I’m not seeing that. Haven’t seen him enough to scout him. Sue Dinem’s better on that one.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Marrero made it to Hi-A in ‘07 and had tremendous, Manny Ramirez-like power to right-center that I haven’t seen (or heard about) since. Since he got hurt in mid ‘08, he’s become more of a pull/line-drive hitter and that seems to have sapped his power. Granted, it’s not like he’s that far off, but the expectation is that his power would make up for his defensive deficiencies

by Sue Dinem on Nov 28, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ramos vs. Norris

Who is the starting catcher of the future? What qualities do each possess that the other do not?

by 306008 on Nov 28, 2010 4:41 AM EST reply actions  

I'm on the "these things tend to work themselves out".

This really depends on other positions in the organization as much as anything else. Ramos has to show more with the bat to be more than a very dependable backup long term. Norris has to show more with the glove to not justify a position switch. If both work out, I’d rather see Norris as the long term catcher but the Nats have a lot of needs elsewhere around the diamond and Norris is probably their number one prospect that they’d consider trading who has value.

Come 2013 and the end of Ryan Zimmerman’s contract, Norris is the guy they may have to move to address outfield issues or another plus pitching arm.

But I hope he’s the one who works out long term and stays. I’m all in for Norris. Tough as nails and not intimidated by injuries sustained. For a guy who got beaned big time earlier this year, he has shown that he is willing to own the inside of the plate.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It's going to be tough

Ramos has a very good defensive rep, and I think he’ll hit enough to be a regular, meaning that his batting avg and power will obscure his lack of over-all on-base ability. Someone proposed a Ramon Hernandez career path for him and that seems very reasonable. You make excellent points about Norris being the better bet long term but also having more trade value. Maybe Ramos bombs out by the time Norris is ready, or is established as an every day player that can be traded himself. The doubts about Norris’s ability to catch seem to be fading, and it would be a pretty bitter pill to trade him if I were a Nats fan.

by blackoutyears on Nov 29, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

All depends on what you get back.

It’s academic right now because Norris ain’t Mike Trout yet. I’d love to see us make some kind of all in move for a pennant race if it was appropriate. It’s not appropriate yet and it’s proper to take next year to let things work themselves out. Hope both of them work out.

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by souldrummer on Nov 29, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Strange that you say that you like Norris' glove more than most

But yet you have him as a B+. I think a high OBP/high SLG/acceptable glove catcher is worth an A grade of some sort, probably A-, if you believe that’s what he can be.

Even Goldstein had him as a five-star (though what that would translate to here is a relative mystery).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU_9zTD9B98&feature=related
Apparently there's an epilepsy warning on this video. But it's so incredibly cool.

by Dan Strittmatter on Nov 28, 2010 7:29 AM EST reply actions  

5 star for KG is top 50

A low end 5 star from him is lower than an A- from John.

While his numbers look good currently, I think the question is how they translate moving up the latter. Striking out as often as Norris does against A ball pitchers isn’t a good sign. Sure he walks a lot right now, but how much of that is due to the pitching level? As he starts facing better pitchers that will attack him with stuff they can command, will the strikeouts remain higher or go higher, while the BB start to drop off? I think a solid B+ grade is just about right for him at this point.

by nixa37 on Nov 28, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd never give a guy a straight A right out of HS no matter who it is

I love the bat speed of Harper and the arm, but I see him either becoming a left fielder or a 1st baseman in 5 or 6 years. A lot of people have been giving him Adam Dunn comps because of him being 6’3 at age 18. If he becomes a 1st baseman he would have to hit like Miguel Cabrera or Willie McCovey to justify the hype.

by Bravesin07 on Nov 28, 2010 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

harper

Normally I would agree with you but Harper is special.

by John Sickels on Nov 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunn got so big because he doesn't try and stay in good shape

Given Harper’s work ethic, I don’t think that worry is really justified. He strikes me as a guy that will constantly be working to keep his body fat low.

by nixa37 on Nov 28, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Great point.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Dunn is still a great outcome for a prospect.
If he becomes a 1st baseman he would have to hit like Miguel Cabrera or Willie McCovey to justify the hype.

So few prospects actually make it to the bigs, let alone be above average players, that even if Harper is an Adam Dunn clone, he’s still more than justified the hype.

Harper is special and almost a sure thing to be in the bigs in some capacity, and soon-ish (2012 is very likely), in spite of his age, barring major injuries, or other off-field problems. He’s going to be playing at a level way above that of other 18yo draftees next year.

by Blicks on Nov 28, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I mean, if we’re talking about someone possibly only being Adam Dunn, he must be pretty good, right?

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by hero66 on Nov 28, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The Dunn comp doesn't include the ridiculous BB rate though

Harper hasn’t shown the ability to be patient yet. The Adam Dunn comp comes mostly from how big he already is and his 80 power. I think there’s enough doubt to warrant an A-, but that’s me.

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by Jeff Reese on Nov 28, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunn's as big as he is because he doesn't have Harper's work ethic

We’re basically penalizing Harper for the fact that Dunn hasn’t worked to keep his body fat at an optimal level

by nixa37 on Nov 28, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll see

Adam Dunn is just a big man; I definitely wouldn’t call him fat. I’m not saying that it’s going to happen, just that there’s a non-trivial chance that it does (I don’t know, ~30%).

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by Jeff Reese on Nov 28, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't call him fat either

But he’s also not in especially good shape. If he actually wanted to, he could probably drop 20 pounds of fat with a little effort. I just think he’s content with the player he is (and there’s nothing wrong with that). I don’t think Harper would be content being wretched OF or a 1B at all. I think he’d put in the effort to stay around 10% body fat, instead of letting himself get to somewhere between 15 and 20 percent like Dunn.

by nixa37 on Nov 28, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Harper's patience...

Instead of drawing a walk, it seems like Harper would prefer to just get a hit instead.

by Boxkutter on Nov 28, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure

But he sells out for power and has a lot of swing and miss in him right now.

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by Jeff Reese on Nov 28, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We don’t know what this kid is totally yet with regards to plate approach. With his skill set this is probably the first time he’s met pitches with enough movement to make him consistently strike out when he lacks patience. Plus he was only playing twice a week in the AFL. If you are one to give A’s on potential, he answered all possible questions in the AFL. Outside of that, we all anxiously await full season A ball.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That isn't based on AFL results

That was what the scouting said during draft time. It’s why he was only getting 55 (sometimes lower) grades for his hit tool.

I’m reluctant to give straight A’s, especially to position players. There is nothing wrong with an A-, that’s still a top 10 position player.

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by Jeff Reese on Nov 29, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep which is why I could careless about AFL results

unless your a pitcher..

Remember Brandon Wood set this league on fire 5 years..

by Bravesin07 on Nov 28, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think results aren't what matters

I do think that scouts impressions of tools in game situations can matter. Scouts are bullish on Harper after the AFL for the most part and that’s what matters to me. Personally, I don’t care but so much what he’s graded at until I get my opportunities to see him in Hagerstown and/or Potomac next year in person.

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by souldrummer on Nov 28, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree for the most part

But a kid who should be getting ready for his senior high school season facing seasoned professionals and not getting blown away is plenty impressive IMO. I don’t care about the numbers as much as the fact that he looked like he belonged not long after his 18th birthday.

by nixa37 on Nov 28, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Harper

I saw Harper in the AFL. The thing that impressed me was that he made adjustments within at-bats that I’ve seen guys in Triple-A fail to make.

He swung and missed badly on a curveball. A couple of pitches later, the pitcher tried again. Harper adjusted, made contact….but he ADJUSTED mentally and wasn’t fooled the second time.

by John Sickels on Nov 29, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

Was nervous when they sent him to the AFL, but glad that he showed folks with discerning eyes like yourself some evidence for the accolades.

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by souldrummer on Nov 29, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunn could never run like he could, was never that kind of pure athelete. Josh Hamilton is 11 years older than Harper with the same type frame and can still play center.

Aim for the head baby Jesus

by Doncosmic on Dec 23, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Hood?

Has his star fallen that much, or have others simply surpassed him?

by dbreer23 on Nov 29, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Hood is real, real raw and hasn't shown the poor to compensate for that yet

Perez and Ramirez passed him, though, as persons of interest in the Hagerstown outfield. All are flawed to some extent, though. I’ll be real interested to see Hood some at Potomac this year.

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by souldrummer on Nov 29, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

"poor" should say "power"

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by souldrummer on Nov 29, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

how good is espinosa?

he seems like a pretty erratic type of hitter who could go 25-25 one day (as a middle infielder). maybe sort of like arizona OF Chris Young?

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by feslenraster on Nov 30, 2010 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

A 25/25 MIF

would be a gold mine for WAS, so long as they put him in the 6 or 7 hole – OBP doesn’t seem to support his being a 1/2 hitter

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