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Rookie Review: Lorenzo Cain

Rookie Review: Lorenzo Cain

I've received some questions lately about Milwaukee Brewers outfielder Lorenzo Cain. He's a very interesting player, so let's take a look at his past, his present, and his possible future.

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Cain was drafted by the Brewers in the 17th round in 2004, then signed as a draft-and-follow in '05 out of Tallahassee Community College in Florida. He's been excellent at times, but somewhat erratic. Here is the comment I wrote about him in the 2010 book.

 

Lorenzo Cain, OF, Milwaukee Brewers

Bats: R    Throws: R     HT: 6-2     WT: 185   DOB: April 13, 1986

 

2006: Grade C+; 2007: Grade B-; 2008: Grade C+; 2009: Grade B-.

 

Lorenzo Cain has tremendous tools, and at times he flashes good skills to go with them. I was somewhat optimistic about his chances to develop entering 2009, but his season was a disaster, due to an April knee injury. He returned to the field in late June, and I got to see a couple of his rehab outings for Wisconsin. He didn't look right; he was either still in pain, or playing like he was afraid of the pain returning. His swing was fouled up, and he wasn't running with his normal speed. The knee got better by the end of the year, and Cain looked more like his normal self in the Arizona Fall League, hitting .242/.375/.303. . .still not very good, but his swing looked better and at least he was controlling the strike zone again. When healthy, Cain is very fast, has surprising power, will draw an occasional walk, and presents as an excellent defensive outfielder. He needs 400 at-bats in Triple-A to refine his swing. As you can see from the list above, Cain's grade has been yo-yoing between B- and C+ for four years. It's back down to Grade C+ again, which still assumes some optimism about his offensive development.

 

Cain hit .324/.409/.434 with 21 steals in 23 attempts over 244 at-bats for Double-A Huntsville this year, followed by a .299/.384/.425 mark with five steals in six attempts over 87 at-bats for Triple-A Nashville. He saw considerable playing time for the Brewers, hitting .306/.348/.415 with seven steals in eight attempts, nine walks with 28 strikeouts in 147 at-bats.

I wrote that he needed another 400 at-bats in the minors to work out his swing and shake the injury rust off. He ended up getting 331, and looked pretty good in the majors. His plate discipline still needs some work, but his walk rate in the minors was fine, and with more experience I think it will increase in the majors as well.

He hit just three homers in the minors this year and has never been a big home run guy, but he's good for doubles and triples, and I do think he'll develop more pop as he matures. He uses his speed very well, on the bases as well as the outfield, where he's a very strong defender.

I don't expect Cain to hit .300+ every year, but I can see him as a consistent .270-.290 hitter with some seasons that get beyond that. If he boosts is isolated patience a bit, maintains his polish on the bases, his offensive and defensive skills will make him quite valuable.

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John (and anyone that follows the Brewers), what type of power could Cain develop? I saw him in the AzL in 2005 and thought he’d be a monster. He hit 5 HR in 200 ABs and I saw him hit one 450+ feet. At the time he was 6’2"-6’3" and probably around 150 pounds. I remember thinking that when he added weight he would be a 25-30 HR guy.

by ScottAZ on Oct 9, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I could be wrong

but I wonder if he uses a really light bat. Sometimes he’ll have a big swing and square one up and it doesn’t seem to carry.

by JetSam on Oct 9, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks John

It didn’t take long for Cain to supplant Carlos Gomez as the CF of the future in Milwaukee

"We're gonna do this f*ucking thing over again cuz I just f*cked it up.....oh, we're live, I didn't know that" Bert Blyleven

by smoooooth on Oct 9, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That's what happens when your competition is Carlos Gomez

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I'm an editor for Beyond the Box Score, an SB Nation blog.

by Satchel Price on Oct 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Span-ish?

Does Cain have a Denard vibe? A familiar nemesis for GoGo – a guy with a much better approach at the plate.
Too bad Gomez speaks Spanish, but not Span-ish ( e.g., K:BB < 2:1)

by itch on Oct 10, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

GoGo

Gomez univerally means “can’t get on base” in every language

by ScottAZ on Oct 10, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Always seems to mash when I see him

Flashes pretty good power/speed combination.

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by OremLK on Oct 10, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

2010 comps for Cain

Reviewing Cain’s minor league metrics and trying to find similar players in the majors, I came up with the following names for their 2010 seasons and what Cain’s top season in his career might look like. Andrew McCutchen, Angel Pagan, Scott Podsednik, Rafael Furcal, Mike Aviles and Jose Tabata. I am not saying that Cain projects to be these players, just that his top season will look like one of these players 2010 season.

by Jeff in Minny on Oct 11, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Cain

was impressive in the looks I got when MIL was playing the Reds. Not a fully formed approach at the plate, but he’s dangerous, and has the ability to get the bat head to the ball. IIRC he burned us for three doubles in a game this September and they were all well struck. He’s a standout on defense. The first time I saw him he went barreling to the left CF warning track to make a tremendous catch and caromed off the bullpen fence with such force I thought he’d dislocated his shoulder. He was out there the next night like nothing had happened. It’s hard to project the bat but the glove and range look legit.

by blackoutyears on Oct 11, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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