Brett Wallace
by emarc on Oct 7, 2010 9:21 PM EDT
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We all know what a disappointment he's been in the bigs. What do you think the future holds for him. Will be be a solid bench player? an average everyday? or could he break out and turn into an allstar? or anything in between?
what do you guys think?
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law chat on espn
first time i had heard this….
Biggest player surprise and disapointments this year
Klaw
(2:30 PM)
Surprises: Bautista, Huff, Nick Franklin (minor league division). Disappointments: Wieters, Ian Stewart, Smoak, Brett Wallace. Heard a very interesting take on Wallace from a scout yesterday: His hips are wide enough that it’s too hard for him to get them rotated on a pitch coming in on the inner half – and the reason he has always done well against LHP is because their stuff typically moves away from him, which is his strength. First time I’ve heard that on any player, but it does make some intuitive sense. Hips are a big part of hitting.
Smoak
Was on fire to end the season. Come on Law!
by Kenneth Arthur on Oct 8, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
klaw mentioned in that some piece that
he does not place much merit on september stats because the quality of play/players is uneven.
He wrecked AAA in Sept, too, though.
.325/.400/.575 in a park that is not easy to hit in, especially XBH.
Monthly splits are random end points, yes, but considering the argument is he was largely unlucky most of the year in Texas…
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Somewhere between below average and above average
He’s not a bad young player, and he makes a lot of sense for a team that probably isn’t going to compete in the near future because he’s cheap and at least serviceable as a starter.
Looks like John was right
That Ike Davis was a better prospect.
So, whose stock dropped more this year:
his or Michael Taylor’s?
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Interesting
I could see the argument for it being Wallace but not easily.
Wallace at least hit .301 with an .868 OPS in AAA before struggling in the majors where his stock dropped.
Michael Taylor posted a .272 average and a .740 OPS in AAA.
Wallace at least hit .301 with an .868 OPS in AAA before struggling in the majors where his stock dropped.
True, but Wallace converted from 3B to 1B permanently, which hurt a lot, and those numbers were in the hitter friendly PCL and at extremely hitter friendly Las Vegas…
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Adjusts down to an OPS in the low .800s
Plus, Taylor is older, and has one more year of minor league experience under his belt. On top of that, I’m not sure I buy that Wallace has less defensive value (even at first base) than Taylor.
For me, Taylor’s stock probably dropped slightly more.
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Once you adjust for home parks there wOBAs are almost equal
Wallace’s adjust down to a .357 while Taylor’s adjusts up to a .350, so even if they’re even in defensive value, Taylor’s advantage of the base paths makes it pretty much equal.
Their defensive value is pretty obviously not equal
but my question wasn’t which one is better (I thought Taylor had a leg up coming into this season), it was which one lost more value this season.
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I just don't see any chance for Wallace to be an impact player
He may improve enough to be a league average first baseman (not something I feel strongly about), but does anyone really think he can be better than that? Taylor had a very disappointing season, but I think his ceiling is significantly higher, and I’m willing to give him another year before getting too down on him.
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I'll admit I had higher hopes for Wallace.
Pretty disappointing. I argued at length here from the time he was drafted that he was a 1B only. Despite much protestation there really was never any doubt about that. I just thought he would hit more. Wasn’t a huge fan of his profile, but I kept hearing glowing reports about his swing and feel for hitting. Not that I was ever a big supporter – I constantly argued against him, in fact – but I still thought he’d be better than this. When I say “this” I don’t mean how he performed this year alone, but how he profiles going forward as well.
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The plate discipline never carried over from college
Without it, he just doesn’t profile that well at 1B
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Yeah, it's peculiar
Wasn’t he supposed to be a great OBP guy? I know people liked the power, but it’s not like he could compare to someone like Alvarez in that department. He was supposed to be polished with a strong approach that would lend to a high OBP, but he’s never really shown the same patience at any pro level.
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by Satchel Price on Oct 13, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... it seemed like when he was drafted people thought he projected as a .300/.400 15-20 HR player
Since then, his defense stunk enough to force a position change to the bottom of the food chain and his approach has become a big concern.
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Still a believer.
Watched just about every ML game he played this season.
Statistically, the sample size is too small to draw any real conclusions. I don’t think he’s going to be a star or anything, but I still think he will be a solid regular. I love his swing and I think he has more raw power than he’s been given credit for. He has some adjustments to make—he needs to consistently get his front foot planted before he swings and shift his weight better, and he needs to get more consistent at laying off inside pitches, especially breaking balls—but he’s shown signs of making both adjustments.
He’s a very underrated fielder. He’s quite good at first base. Moves well for the position, good hands, good instincts, and his arm comes in handy.
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Also, let's not forget
That this was just his second full pro season. He moved very quickly. Three years ago he was still in college.
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That argument...
works for the first year, and works for later round picks, but I’m not sure it’s persuasive for a guy who was drafted at the top. Particularly when he was drafted as a polished guy with a plus bat.
I think he'll be fine.
Astros fans won’t be unhappy or anything… but the chances he’s anything special or an above average 1B are more remote seemingly by the day. He’s a decent hitter and I’d expect him to have stretches where he teases us and looks like there’s more… but I no longer believe there’s much more there.
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Don't know if I would go so far as "remote"
But I agree he looks much more likely to be an average player than a special one.
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by Satchel Price on Oct 13, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
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