Chris Carter after the 0-33 start
by JPShark on Oct 4, 2010 6:17 PM EDT
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A couple weeks back John wrote a piece on Chris Carter's rough start to his MLB career. It sparked a lot of conversation, and many thought the slow start was evidence that he was going to struggle to handle MLB pitching. His 0-33 start to go with 13 K's against only 1 BB was obviously a small sample size, as was the .342/.422/.605 with 8 K's and 6 BB's that followed in the 38 AB's he got to end the season. I'm wondering if anyone has had a chance to see Carter hit either on T.V. or in person, and also if anyone's opinion might have changed some after the nice little run he had to end the season. I have seen Carter play several games while in the minors, but not until he reached Oakland did I actually get to see him on a regular basis. I'm just wondering what people think of him that have actually gotten to see him play over the past couple weeks. He looks like a different hitter to me then most of the big power, high K guys. Such a nice short, compact and powerful stroke with plenty of bat speed. Am I just being an overly optimistic A's fan by thinking he will become more then a low average power hitter? I've heard quite a few arguments on this before he accumulated any major league AB's, I guess i'm just wondering if people have changed their minds some after seeing him hit lately.
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I can't help on the scouting opinion, but I'm glad you posted this with Carter's follow up to the 0 for 33
The only people who really know where [the edge] is are the ones who have gone over it.
by SagehenMacGyver47 on Oct 4, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions
Right
Just as the 33 AB didn’t matter neither does the subsequent SSS. Just goes to show that the 33 was worthless.
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And by worthless, I mean as an indicator of future performance.
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by lenscrafters on Oct 4, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the OP acknowledged that much
He wasn’t asking for statistical significance. He was asking what people saw. A person can get some idea of a player by scouting 25 of his games. Definitive? No. But there’s information there.
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by thejd44 on Oct 6, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to the M's - A's game last Thursday
The guy showed intense power in BP and hit an absolute bomb in the game. Power is definately there.
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I think the 2nd one he hit on saturday was hit even harder
but he just didn’t get enough elevation to put it way out. Was still a no doubter, all 3 he has hit have been.
Yeah, Carter's home runs were absolute bombs
Courtesy of HitTracker:
HR No. 1: 402 feet, left the bat at 104.5 MPH
HR No. 2: 411 feet, left the bat at 108.0 MPH
HR No. 3: 400 feet, left the bat at 104.8 MPH
Those are some absolute shots, and the second homer was an absolute missile. Nobody here is questioning Carter’s power.
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by Satchel Price on Oct 4, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I see him as Adam Dunn but 15% worse.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He's not the same caliber of contact hitter...
…but Robin Ventura endured an 0-for-41 streak as a rookie…give Carter a year or so as an everyday player, and he’ll be fine.
Carter still has a lot to prove to me as I don’t go on numbers put up in September. Carter"s first call up he looked totally lost and didn’t have a chance against the slider. His second trip up he looked much better but it was Sept. and I didn’t notice as many sliders. I hoping for the best for him tho.
I'd be more interested, apropos of some rather heated threads on AN,
in knowing if anyone has any semi-informed opinions on his defensive capabilities. Has anyone seen him in the field? Left field would be especially helpful, but even seeing him at first base might tell us something of interest going forward.
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I didn't ask you this in the thread over there (and I won't be venturing back into that thread)
But did you see any of his LF performance with Oakland? What did you think about it overall?
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by thejd44 on Oct 6, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Almost none
Maybe a couple of plays at most. Even there, it was only on TV.
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I saw him play when he was 0-30
And he looked absolutely lost up there. Definitely didn’t look like he belonged, but I think as small a sample size, hes not that bad of a player. Give him time, he should fall in as a .250-270 hitter with about 25-30 HRs. Very useful, especially given the As have no power whatsoever.
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The one thing I noticed between the good and the bad
He appeared to lay off some of the pitches (mostly breaking balls low and away) he was getting fooled on earlier. Could’ve been a fluke; could’ve been a quick adjustment.
He is also really quick on inside pitches.
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by thejd44 on Oct 6, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
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