Kansas City Royals Preliminary Prospect List
by John Sickels on Oct 21, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
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PrintHere is the preliminary prospect list for the Kansas City Royals system. I started off with over 50, and have narrowed that down to 42. Feel free to suggest others, but if you do so please suggest a cut as well.
Kansas City Royals 42 players
Jason Adam RHP
Willian Avinazar RHP
Henry Barrera RHP
Buddy Baumann LHP
Kevin Chapman LHP
Louis Coleman RHP
Christian Colon SS
Tim Collins LHP
Aaron Crow RHP
Cheslor Cuthbert 3B
Danny Duffy LHP
Chris Dwyer LHP
Jarrod Dyson OF
Brett Eibner OF
Nick Francis OF
Johnny Giavotella 2B
Blaine Hardy LHP
Greg Holland RHP
Eric Hosmer 1B
Patrick Keating RHP
John Lamb LHP
David Lough OF
Lucas May C
Tim Melville RHP
Mike Montgomery LHP
Mike Moustakas 3B
Wil Myers C
Paulo Orlando OF
Edgar Osuna LHP
Jordan Parraz OF
Salvador Perez C
Elisaul Pimentel RHP
Clint Robinson 1B
Tyler Sample RHP
Leonel Santiago RHP
Crawford Simmons LHP
Tim Smith OF
Will Smith LHP
Everett Teaford LHP
Ben Theriot C
Yordano Ventura RHP
Robinson Yambati RHP
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Derrick Robinson
I’m very surprised Derrick Robinson isn’t on the prelim list. He’s got incredible athleticism, and finally started to hit the ball this year hitting .286 in his first stint at AA. I feel like his speed, athleticism, and defense combined with an improving bat at 22 make him worthy of a spot on the initial list at least.
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robinson
Yeah i need to put him on there. will adjust tomorrow.
by John Sickels on Oct 22, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Bianchi, Noel Arguelles, and Mike Antonio look like guys i might add.
Theriot would be a cut. Would consider cutting Santiago, Avinazar, Pimentel, and T. Smith. Unless ya know something i dont, which is likely in some of these cases.
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Tim Smith
I might be the only Royals fan that likes Tim Smith. He lacks power, but gets on base, has good plate discipline, decent speed, and no notable platoon split.
I think he could end up being a solid 4th OF. I like him over Parraz, who’s 2 years older.
Some notables missing
Noel Arguelles – didn’t play this year but has to be on a top 40 list simply due to upside. Reportedly will be ready to start pitching in April.
Jeff Bianchi – borderline top 10 guy before TJ surgery. I think has to be on a top 40 list.
Derrick Robinson – coming off his best pro season. Has holes in his offensive game but will stick at CF and has tons of athleticism.
Manny Pina – reportedly great defense at catcher and had a decent offensive season split between AA and AAA.
Michael Antonio – 3rd round pick this year out of NY high school, had a decent debut. Probably will be a corner OF.
Humberto Arteaga/Orlando Caxito – both guys are Latin SS prospects that received $1+MM bonuses. Given the age concerns with Caxito I would rank Arteaga ahead of him.
Guys you could remove:
Theriot, Santiago, Avinazar, Barrera, Pimentel, Parraz (rumors the Royals will let him go to make room in AAA for OF with higher upside)
Antonio for sure, Caxito and Arteaga might need mentioning.
There are a few people who really LVOE Arteaga. Theriot is underrated by us all. He is a legit player.
DRob and Pina… meh…. Bianchi… what do you do for injury guys like that?
Avinazar needs to be there. Santiago I think as well…. Parraz can go.
You'd rank Theriot above Pina?
I’ve heard Pina’s defense will at least carry him to the majors as a backup catcher, and his offense showed a lot of promise this year.
Bianchi should drop but I don’t think he falls off a list completely. TJ, especially for a position player, is not a death knell.
Just from reports
I’ve heard that Pina won’t be able to handle a pitching staff. I’ve heard that from more than two sources. From watching Theriot, he is vastly underrated. He plays good D. Runs well. And can swing the bat.
Is he better than Pina? I think his ceiling is higher. Pina has a chance to break spring with the big club next year as the back up… but May will probably assume that role and Pina will be at AAA.
ALso surprised Robinson isn't on the list
Personally, I don’t think that he’s a great prospect. But I don’t see the rationale in including Jarrod Dyson and not including Robinson.
Waiting for April.
Check out Dr. Rany on this subject
On ranyontheroyals, he basically explained his rationale for the dyson over Robinson flip flop he made. Apparently there are scouts out there who love Dyson as a late bloomer. Rany makes a very interesting case as why Dyson will be more valuable. Don’t know if John has any of the same rationales but it is interesting that they both came to the same conclusion.
by thehitonecafe on Oct 21, 2010 7:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
probably
and for what it’s worth, Dyson’s probably the best defensive player i’ve ever laid my eyes on in person. he’s got absurd speed and good instincts in the outfield, AND a really good arm, which is almost jaw dropping coming from a guy who’s no better than 160 or 170 pounds.
if he could hit just a little…just a LITTLE, he’d be pretty damn valuable. i’m just not sure if he ever will.
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Dyson will hit
but not for power or a very high average. .275 tops but will walk. He doesn’t really strike out as much as his short MLB stint….
And defensively he is goooood.
Didn't BA adjust how they view it for relivers though?
After Bard last year. Of course BA isn’t the be all, end all.
Yes, that's where the 30 appearances comes into play
Before that it was just 50 IP.
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Kansas City Royals 42 players
Jason Adam RHP
Noel Arguelles LHP
Mike Antonio 3B
Willian Avinazar RHP
Buddy Baumann LHP
Jeff Bianchi INF
Kevin Chapman LHP
Louis Coleman RHP
Christian Colon SS
Tim Collins LHP
Aaron Crow RHP
Cheslor Cuthbert 3B
Danny Duffy LHP
Chris Dwyer LHP
Jarrod Dyson OF
Brett Eibner OF
Nick Francis OF
Johnny Giavotella 2B
Blaine Hardy LHP
Greg Holland RHP
Eric Hosmer 1B
Patrick Keating RHP
John Lamb LHP
David Lough OF
Lucas May C
Tim Melville RHP
Mike Montgomery LHP
Mike Moustakas 3B
Wil Myers C
Paulo Orlando OF
Edgar Osuna LHP
Salvador Perez C
Manny Pina C
Clint Robinson 1B
Derrick Robinson OF
Leonel Santiago RHP
Crawford Simmons LHP
Tim Smith OF
Will Smith LHP
Everett Teaford LHP
Yordano Ventura RHP
Robinson Yambati RHP
yeah
yeah but people will be curious about him. I’ll at least need a health update
by John Sickels on Oct 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
do you know someone within the organization?
not asking you to give up your sources, but when you say stuff like this, that hasnt even been hinted at elsewhere, it gets me curious
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by billybeingbilly on Oct 22, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to Tyler Sample?????
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by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Oct 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Pat White
Not sure who to drop for him but I imagine many, including myself, will be very curious about a guy with this kind of athleticism—even if he hasn’t played baseball in quite some time.
He should at least get a mention as a former NFLer/college standout
even if it was a different sport.
WURoyal from RoyalsReview wishes it to be known
that he thinks Yowill Espinal should be listed, but WURoyal can’t post here yet.
Will Smith
He was a different pitcher when he went to KC, I hope KC keeps control of him and stops bouncing him around and he might reach the potential people thought he would in LAA
Someone at RR mentioned
Hilton Richardson. He had horrible stats but he has all the potential in the world. He just hasn’t figured anything out yet.
TYLER SAMPLE....!!!!????
Add:
1) Tyler Sample RHP
2) Yowill Espinal SS/2B
Remove:
1) Tim Smith OF
2) Manny Pina C
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by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Oct 24, 2010 4:50 AM EDT reply actions
players
Smith stays.
Pina…eh…
Espinal has already been added.
Sample sucks. Might add him and cut someone else.
by John Sickels on Oct 24, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ya
Sample has to learn to pitch at some point. I can respect the stuff but the control is just so bad right now it’s hard to project even average command at this point.
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Agreed on Sample, but prospects is about potential, right...
& Sample has a lot of that.
T Smith & Pina seem to have very little upside or potential. An arguement could be made that Carlo Testa has more upside then T Smith bc of Defensive flexiablity, speed & power.
Murray Watts, & Kevin David are a couple of more names that could be considered & probably will make next yrs list based on the huge power potenial of Watts & David’s well rounded game @ his position. Reports are David is impressing in instructs.
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by PREGNANT ROLLERSKATE on Oct 25, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
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I’d love to include all of those guys and make the book 45-50 players deep for each team.
But if I did that, I’d have to raise the cost to 40 bucks a book, and somehow make it a nine-day work week given all the other things I do.
by John Sickels on Oct 27, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
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