My Blue Jays Top 20 Prospects List
My Top 20 Blue Jays prospects heading into the 2011 season.
I know that someone just put up a Blue Jays Top 20 list but I have been working on this for a while and wanted to get it out there. This is my first attempt at a Top 20 list so let me know what you guys think.
Just Missed: David Cooper, Joel Carreno, Mike McDade, Markus Knecht, Kellen Sweeny, A.J Jimenez.
There's probably some guys I'm forgetting so feel free to point them out too me. Who do you guys think is too low? Too high? Also, good to look at this teams system and see how far they have come in such a short period of time. Obviously not the best system in baseball but much better than even a year ago.
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I like this list
Definitely more than the one posted the other day. I wouldn’t have Gose as high as he is here, he has the tools to rank there I just don’t have faith in him turning them into skills. I’d probably slot him at 14th or 15th and move everyone from 11 to 14 or 15 up a spot. I’d probably flip Thon and Emaus too, Emaus seems like a backup or 2nd division starter at best where Thon looks to be more valuable because he should stick at SS. Those are very minor quibbles though. Good list, good effort, and many thanks for actually including commentary on each player. It makes the lists so much better when we can see why a player is ranked where he is.
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Agreed, it's a good list.
I’m alright with where Gose is, and the Emaus thing isn’t a huge deal either.
I like the improvement this farm system has shown. Anthopolous has done a nice job there.
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by Satchel Price on Oct 20, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
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Great list, can’t really add much more to gatling’s observations, which I agree with. I am a big Marisnick fan, albeit partly just one of those unquantifiable gut feeling things, would probably move him up to 7 personally. Also think I’d swap D’Arnaud and Hech’s positions; believe slightly more in Hech’s defense at an up the middle position. System is on the rise; tough division, but Jays fans finally have some reasons for hope.
I like Marisnick alot too and I can see him moving up this list in the very near future. I just want to wait and see how his bat holds up at higher levels. He definatley has exciting tools though.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 20, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man, appreciate the feedback.
Gose is a tough one to rank because as you mentioned, it basically depends on whether or not one thinks he will turn his raw tools into baseball skill.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 20, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
my thoughts
Nice list. 1-6 would contain the same players for me. The rest is pretty hard to figure out but I think you have Jake Marisnick too high and Eric Thames too low…true that Marisnick has defensive calue and Thames is limited in that department but Marisnick is just so unproven at this point I would give the nod to Thames who had a big season and could be on the Adam Lind pathway. Cardona is also too high for my taste…he is only 16 and miles away and we just dont know anything about him other than he got paid. Mcdade and Jiminez are two that I would move up.
Thanks for the input man.
Appreciate your opinion on Thames being ahead of Marisnick and obviously a case can be made for it but I love the overall tools Marisnick has displayed a little more than Thames bat. Right now for me Thames is limited to playing a below average Left or DH’ing and that, along with his previous injury history lowers his value enough for me to see Marisnick as the better prospect. Don’t get me wrong though, I still love Thames bat.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 20, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Thames
I do really need to see more of his defense but from what I have seen there is no reason to think he can’t be an average LF. He definitely looks better in the OF than Lind does. I hope Marisnick fulfills the tools. And It was really only a minor quibble as I realize Marisnick has the chance to be a complete player and his Lansing struggles were small sample following a 2 step promotion.
Did you give Alvarez over Sanchez much thought or is it a case of just wanting to see more from Sanchez. I’d have Sanchez over Alvarez right now as I think his ceiling is higher and really Alvarez hasn’t proven to have a higher floor as he still has lots to iron out.
Ya I really like Sanchez
and as I said in the article, I can see him exploding up this list rather quickly. I just want to see him carry it forward into next year and hopefully continue to refine his command. Also, I know it was only a one inning thing but I was really impressed by Alvarez’s stuff in the futures game. He does have alot to iron out though as his secondaries aren’t great/consistent yet.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 21, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I just like the all around package that he is already displaying at such a young age. I also see him developing some more power as he matures, not a ton or anything but possibly a 15 HR type guy.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 20, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
He doesn’t seem to carry the giant question mark of whether he sticks at catcher or not that most of the top catching prospects do. And as you mentioned, the package he’s showing makes me very excited even if his ceiling is at 15 or so homers.
It’s been said, but is worth repeating, the Blue Jays farm is loaded at catcher
"aggressive placement"
Doesn’t aggressive placement imply its probably too high? in which case I agree, but don’t “love” it.
Pierre has the potential to be a monster hitter
Kid got better and better at recognizing pitches to hit over the summer. I seen him a few times and the improvement was massive…
Ranking a short season catcher that high kind of makes me cringe
Mostly because low level catchers have SUCH a high flame out rate. But I guess that’s just a matter of personal preference.
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But Perez looks like a probable exception; none of the usual pitfalls are visible with him. I haven’t seen a negative comment on any aspect of his defense; rare for someone so young to have such clean mechanics behind the plate, even moreso to have the aptitude for game-calling that he’s reputed to. Likewise, his bat doesn’t look especially vulnerable to failure; outstanding plate discipline and coverage skills for his age, already able to hit the ball to all fields, etc. Whether he has true star potential remains up for debate, especially with no visible power yet, but he looks about as safe as a short-season guy can be.
Excellent list man
Really enjoyed reading this. While I don’t consider myself extremely versed in the progression of the Jays’ prospects this year, I think Syndergaard has the tools to be moved up a few spots, ahead of Cardona and Emaus. Emaus has limited potential, especially at 3rd, while Cardona is still extremely young. Also, I think Thon could be flipped with Hutchison for sure as the Jays have perfectly demonstrated how difficult it is to find a legitimate quality SS (Russ Adams anyone)? Obviously just very, very minor points of preference, but this was a great list to read!
Thanks man glad you enjoyed it.
I think i’m having second thoughts about putting Cardona on this list because, as alot of people have pointed out he is just so young and anything can happen with his development from here on in. Other than that, the other guys you mentioned are pretty interchangable depending on preference I think.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 21, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Carreno
With the season he had I think he definitely deserves a spot on the list instead of say Hutch. Also, Gose doesn’t seem to high, I think Adeiny might be. I’d also probably switch Alvarez and Marisnik spots. Cardona doesn’t really deserve to be on the list, ya he got a huge bonus, but he’s 16 and hasn’t done anything yet.
I thought about putting Carreno on this list, and he might have been the guy I would replace Cardona with because its pretty hard to ignore what he did in Dunedin this season. His K rate and K/BB ratio was ridiculous but he was a 23 year old in A ball. I just want to see how his stuff translates to more age relevent competition in AA next year before i’m sold on him.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 21, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Have to say as someone who has Perez glued to the top of his own Jays list
big props on the agressive position, agree fully on the no visible issues part and expect him to work up the Jays system rapidly despite the crowding at C. Agree with most of the list as to rough position but i’d switch out Cardona for Moises Sierra, agree with the injuries this season moving him out of the top 10 but think he’s a lock for the top 20. Solid to above average OFer with improving power and contact skills who showed good progression at Dunedin before his injuries, expecting him to jump back this coming season at New Hampshire.
Sierra was kind of a forgotten man this year with the injuries and hopefully he can get back on track next season. I’m just not sold on him though. I think to jump back onto the list he needs to pick up where he left off in 09 and produce some more power, as the injuries really hampered his development time. He’s still just 22 but he’s on the bubble for me as of now.
by TwoEyesForAnEye on Oct 21, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions

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