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20 team Dynasty Trade: Johan/Main for Snider/Reimold


Trading away Johan wouldn't be easy, but my team is certainly in the rebuilding stages and with my current young talent, I think I could seriously compete for the championship as soon as 2011. Johan isn't getting any younger, and Snider is a TOP young bat.

The offer is Johan and Michael Main for Travis Snider and Nolan Reimold.

Does this make sense for me? I would greatly appreciate text responses instead of simply choosing the poll option.

Thanks.


Major League Roster:

C. Joe Mauer, MIN
1B. David Ortiz, BOS
2B. Brian Roberts, BAL
3B. Felipe López, ARI
SS. Troy Tulowitzki, COL
LF. Raúl Ibañez, PHI
CF. Franklin Gutierrez, SEA
RF. Nick Markakis, BAL
UT. Wily Taveras, CIN

SP. Jered Weaver, LAA
SP. Scott Baker, MIN
SP. Jonathan Sanchez, SF
RP. Andrew Bailey, OAK
RP. Ramon Troncoso, LAD
RP. Manuel Delcarmen, BOS
RP. Rafael Betancourt, COL
RP. Chris Ray, BAL

Bench: 

Jed Lowrie, BOS (SS)
Luis Valbuena, CLE (2B, SS)
Troy Glaus, FA (3B)

Trevor Cahill, OAK (SP)
Clay Buchholz, BOS (SP)
Ricky Romero, TOR (SP)
Derek Holland, TEX (SP, RP)
Bobby Parnell, NYM (SP, RP)

DL (3 spots): 

Johan Santana, NYM (SP)
Joey Devine, OAK (RP)

MiLB (15 spots):

1B: Logan Morrison (FLA)
2B: Reese Havens (NYM)
3B: Brett Wallace (STL)
SS. Danny Espinosa (WAS)
OF: Aaron Cunningham (OAK), Chris Heisey (CIN), Michael Burgess (WAS), Daryl Jones (STL), Mike Stanton (FLA), Thomas Neal (SF), Melky Mesa (NYY)
SP: Jhoulys Chacin (COL), Michael Main (TEX), Brian Matusz (BAL), Jenrry Mejia (NYM), Andrew Miller (FLA), Alexander Perez (CLE), Martin Perez (TEX), Esmil Rogers (COL), Cody Scarpetta (MIL)

Poll
Johan/Main or Snider/Reimold
Johan/Main
91 votes
Snider/Reimold
26 votes

117 votes | Poll has closed

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Johan...

is an ace. You should be able to get more than that for him alone.

by joegonzo on Jan 2, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

+1

If I’m trading an ace who isn’t all that old and is in one of the most pitcher friendly stadiums in the league, I’m asking for two players who I feel more than likely will be all stars. Reimold is ok, but he doesn’t project to be anything really more than a top 80 player, imo

You’re name has 2k9 in it — what are you some 8 year-old who makes Pillsbury Doughboy cookies and jerks off to that bullshit video game with Tim Lincecum on the cover--
Frederick0220

by Mets2k9 on Jan 2, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I’d be looking for more than Snider too. Snider doesn’t play a premium position, OFers are a lot easier to find than ace pitchers. If you can get the person to include a good young arm or a premium infielder than it would make more sense, imo.

by MightyMoose on Jan 2, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Whats the impetus for this trade? Youre not getting the best player and youre not getting value…

I assume you think these two targets are good buy low guys… that only holds true if youre buying low. Johan does not equal buying low.

by alskor on Jan 2, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i went with the Johan side

Snider is far from a sure thing, and he needs to be great for that deal to work out for you

by jarjets89 on Jan 2, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Trading Santana doesn't make much sense...

Stanton and Neal give you a solid replacement for Ibanez and Tavarez in the next season or 2. Also, your rotation is pretty mediocre without Santana. Granted, you’ve got good minor league talent; you still need to let them develop for at least 1-2 seasons given your rotation situation.

In a 20 team league, a top 5 pitcher should be worth more. Given his age, stadium, and offense behind him, he should have a few more 18-20 win seasons with good peripheral stats.

"When Justin Upton faces Lincecum, I think Christ might appear in the heavens, and the world will end." -JakeFree

by JT12340 on Jan 2, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Just got another offer

I’d trade away:
Johan Santana, Brian Roberts, and 3 draft picks

FOR:
Carlos Gonzalez, Matt LaPorta, Ryan Westmoreland, Kyle Drabek, and Casey Kelly

Do I make this move?

by soxkid on Jan 3, 2010 2:54 AM EST reply actions  

Seems more fair

You are getting a lot here. So like the other poster, it really comes down to the “value” of these draft picks you speak of.

by guru4u on Jan 3, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

We have an upcoming offseason draft

I’d be giving my 2nd and 3rd rounders for this draft (I have pick #9 overall in the first round) and my 2nd round pick next year.
There isn’t THAT much top talent available for this, but some of the best guys are from the 2009 MLB draft.

Guys owned from the 09 MLB draft: Strasburg, Ackley, Tate, Matzek, Crow, Grant Green, Purke, Alex White, Kyle Gibson, Givens.

So pretty much everyone else is available.

by soxkid on Jan 3, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That one is pretty tempting

But look – if youre trading a Johan Santana, a proven, plus MLB commodity, you don’t need to only get prospects back. You can ask for good, young major league players too, you know!

Still, I wouldnt hesitate to move him if I got the right group of prospects. Love Gonzalez. Like LaPorta. Then you’re getting three top 25 prospects, too. That’s real tempting.

by alskor on Jan 3, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I know,

It’s a VERY tempting move, although I’d be dealing both Johan and Roberts and I don’t really know how interested in that I am. I love the guys I’d be getting, but it would be tough to give up 2 proven stars.

by soxkid on Jan 3, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay the course

The season is still a distance away and you can afford to sit on Johan and wait for a return you love.

by alskor on Jan 3, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

re: as much as I like Reimold and Snider

I’d ask for a little more in return, namely MLB ready pitchers who are “proven”.
If you can acquire someone like Danny Haren I’d pull the trigger.

I think your current OF is pretty stocked, and I like your minor league OF depth. I see having Reimold and Snider as extraneous pieces. If anything if you should attempt to add a young 1B like Joey Votto or Yonder Alonso that might make more sense.

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jan 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

re: you seem pretty intent on trading Johan

this second trade proposal seems a bit more fair, but I’d keep Bip Roberts (hahaha, remember him). good 4-stat second basemen are hard to come by in ANY league….

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Jan 3, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

+1

Agreed – the second trade is closer than the first, but I don’t think I’d do either. You should be able to get a star back for Johan – try to sell him off to the worst pitching team in your league.

by rmarx on Jan 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright

so I kept Johan for now, made another move which I think was a very smart one.

Traded away Scott Baker for Chris Carter.

by soxkid on Jan 3, 2010 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

Had to pull the trigger there,

as I’m one of those who believe Carter will be a special bat, plus I have a surplus of pitching long term.

by soxkid on Jan 3, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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