Chris Carter MiLBY for Overall Minor League Hitter of the Year.
by Asfan4ever723 on Jan 1, 2010 2:59 PM EST
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Adding in his numbers from a brief Triple-A debut at Sacramento at season's end, Carter's final stat line reads .329, 28 homers and 115 RBIs in 138 games. He led the Minors with 179 hits, tied for the Minor League lead in total bases (310), ranked second in RBIs and extra-base hits and finished third in runs scored.
He achieved all of this at age 22, leading the Oakland system as well in doubles (43), walks (85) and slugging (.570).
He also added 13 steals, though speed is not the forte of the 6-foot-4 225-pounder, and drew 82 walks in 125 games at Midland. After starting "slow" with a .296 average in April and a .288 mark in May, he torched the ball when the temperature rose, hitting .324 in June, .365 in July and .424 in August.
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Carter can mash
This guy should hit 30 homers at the MLB level but do people think his average is legit? His BABIP was an insane .406 in AA so I can’t see him maintaining that average. He is likely more of a .260 hitter then a .300 hitter?
However, even if he never hits for a high average at the MLB level, if he can continue down the path of becoming the next Adam Dunn, he will become the slugger that the A’s have failed to develop in recent years.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Jan 1, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions
Im a big fan of Carter
Id agree about the average, probably .280 at peak and around .260 normally in MLB
by Jordan Tuwiner on Jan 1, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think his career high year in homers will be
40. or slightly more
I'd rather have Nick Punto playing 3B and Felipe Lopez playing 2B
than Punto playing 2B and Kouzy, Crede, DeRosa or Glaus playing 3B.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jan 1, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to see the A's being cautious with him
His lack of dominance in AAA and Winter Ball reinforce this need.
Clear he is a special hitter though.
???
he only played 13 games in AAA and hit 4 homeruns.
Its hard to put any stock in winterball stats for so many reasons, including the fact that most players are just flat burned out after playing 160+ games from spring training through september.
I don’t see any reason why Carter can’t break camp with the A’s. If he rakes in spring training the only real reason would be to hold back his clock
And the A's have approximately 3425432 outfielders right now
And they’re looking at Carter for the outfield (now, anyway).
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by thejd44 on Jan 2, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I did not say he was not good.
I said he was not dominate.
Which is reflected by his sub 300 OBP in AAA and sub 800 OPS in Winter League.
Very good point of player be burned out after 160 games… Yet another reason to hold him back… Thier is no doubt the A’s are holding him back… not even worth a discussion.
The problem is his AAA performance
of 54 AB’s (.812 OPS) and his WL performance of 66 AB’s (.770) is in no way a reflection of his level of “dominance”. Both were very small sample sizes, and were hardly horrible. I’m not about to sit here and say Carter will be a dominant hitter at the MLB level, as the young man still has things he could improve on beyond what he did this past year. However I think it’s becoming more and more clear that he deserved a little more respect then he got the past couple seasons. He has now posted a .900+ OPS every year aside from his first professional season at Bristol in which he OPS’d .835. His MiLB career line is now at .290/.383/.542 and he has shown steady improvement over the past few seasons.
the best reason to hold him back
is to make sure the A’s squeeze the most pre-arbitration time out of the kid. There’s no reason, in a non contending season, to give him the opportunity to achieve super two status.
Especially when he's not clearly ready
It’s possible he could break camp with the A’s and be awesome immediately. But a little more AAA time is probably a good thing. And the A’s have plenty of OF/1B/DH types on the major league roster, and Carter isn’t a guarantee to be better than any of them right now. I’ll be disappointed if he starts 2010 in Oakland.
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by thejd44 on Jan 3, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Holding back his clock is incredibly important for the A's
It would be foolish beyond belief to rush him, given the kinds of ridiculous arbitration awards that other defensively challenged sluggers have been getting lately.
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he only played 13 games in AAA and hit 4 homeruns.
Its hard to put any stock in winterball stats for so many reasons, including the fact that most players are just flat burned out after playing 160+ games from spring training through september.
I don’t see any reason why Carter can’t break camp with the A’s. If he rakes in spring training the only real reason would be to hold back his clock
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Add 4 more homers in fewer than 10 playoff games
.272/.326/.605 in AAA counting the playoffs
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Whats with the talk about other guys on this thread??
Don’t get me wrong, I love talking about prospects from all over baseball but this post was specifically about Carter. Are people just trying to be cute because heaven forbid an A’s prospect gets some attention WITHOUT some sort of negativity about Oakland and A’s fans oozing throughout the comments?? Something tells me that if this was a post about Posey, Stanton or Alvarez ETC…..this wouldn’t be going on. Maybe i’m out of line for even saying something, but if not, come on. How about people giving some real, constructive thoughts on the subject itself.
After seeing the article on MiLB.com
showing that the guys people mentioned above were also awarded for their performance at their respective levels, I apologize if my above comment pissed anyone off. Reading this thread, and viewing the link that was posted didn’t involve any other players so I didn’t know that these guys were also in the conversation. I see Oakland fan’s, and different aspects of the organization itself catch a lot of shit on this site so it’s pretty easy to read things and feel it’s some sort of subtle stab.
LOL
I see Oakland fan’s, and different aspects of the organization itself catch a lot of shit on this site so it’s pretty easy to read things and feel it’s some sort of subtle stab.
After watching you jump to conclusions, and make accusations I wonder why that would be? ;)
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Jan 3, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Ok...
Because there is in no way a negative bias towards A’s fans on this site, right??
LOL
You make A’s fans seem like they have an inferiority complex. Perhaps you are mad because the other GMs have caught up to Billy Beane and your team has lost its magic. Sometimes the truths hurts, especially with the Rangers in the process of building a powerhouse in the AL West.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Jan 3, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
My point exactly.
What a jackass comment. Way to be an example of EXACTLY what my original point was. At no point in my comments did I state ANYTHING about my “anger” regarding other GM’s and the AL West. I am completely comfrotable with competition within the division, and with the team that Beane has built for the next several years. The future is quite bright for Oakland….i’m sorry you can’t say the same about your team. I’ll take this opportunity to duck out of this laughable conversation, and i’ll be sure to check my “inferiority complex” at the door.
LOL
If you think I take the success of the Jays personally, you are sadly mistaken. People who get angry when someone pokes fun at their favorite baseball team need to get their priorities straight.
That is the minority of A’s fans like yourself make people think poorly of the majority of your community. You take everything personally and look at everything Oakland through green colored glasses. That is why I have much more respect for someone like Paul Thomas who is at least objective.
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
-Jonathan Swift
by King Billy Royal on Jan 3, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Right, because your comments absolutely
included all sorts of objectivity. You make no sense and contradict yourself each time this shit oozes out of your mouth (or off your keyboard). Get a grip and step away from the computer. You are in no way helping your case by continually showing you have some sort of issue with the Athletics organization and their fans by making bogus, childish comments like the one’s above. I back my team, and comment accordingly just like every other fan of every other team on this site. I just happen to be an A’s fan, which in some peoples eyes makes me a target and don’t try to say its not the truth, because you’ve already proved my point above. I apologized for my original comment, and have nothing else to add to to this dialogue. Gonna go watch some football now.
I don’t believe there is a negative bias against A’s fans, I just think people are tired of seeing the A’s fans try to dominate nearly every discussion. It also doesn’t help that a few of the A’s fans seem to take great pride in insulting and alienating the majority of the community. Whether King Billy Royal proved your point after the fact or not, your first reaction is exactly why people may be tired of hearing from the A’s fans.
How do you think Chris Carter's 2009 season
compares to Chris Davis’s 2007 season? Davis also had the good average to go with the big power. Like Davis, I think Carter will strike out a lot more at the major league level. Thoughts?
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by The Congo Hammer on Jan 3, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions
Carter has much better plate discipline
He walked 85 times in 2009. Davis walked 35 times in 2007.
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by thejd44 on Jan 3, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo
Carter has a good approach. Davis doesnt.
Im sure Carter will strike out a lot and not hit for too high an AVG at the MLB level. Thing is he’ll still be twice the hitter Davis is.
I really like Carter's potential
And, if my memory serves me correctly, he was an Akinori Otsuka physical away from being property of the Rangers.
by SaltyDawg on Jan 4, 2010 4:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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