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2009 MLB Re-Draft Top 10 - Include International Talent

Taking bonus demands and signability out of the mix while including this year's international talent (ex: Chapman, Iglesias, Mateo, etc.), what would your top 10 look like based on talent alone?  I've included my shoddy attempt below.


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1. Strasburg - RHP - College

2. Ackley - OF - College

3. Chapman - LHP - Cuba

4. Matzek - LHP - High School

5. Tate - OF - High School

6. Turner - RHP - High School

7. Wheeler - RHP - High School

8. Minor - LHP - College

9. Crow - RHP - Indepedent

10 Purke - LHP - High School

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Minor 8th?

There’s no way he’s a top 10 pick if you’re basing it on talent alone.

by Jeff Reese on Sep 27, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

1. Strasburg
2. Chapman
3. Ackley
4. Matzek
5. Turner
6. White
7. Crow
8. Purke
9. Green
10. Wheeler

by Jeff Reese on Sep 27, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure how White is in there, maybe if he was at like 10, but thats probably the highest I could see him. Then no Tate?

by bigboy1234 on Sep 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talent alone...

White should be in there. I think my list would be the same except I would have purke behind Turner.

by joegonzo on Sep 27, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

White

He had a up and down season, but he absolutely has the stuff to be a #2 starter. I realize that Cleveland has talked about using him as a reliever (and that would obviously kill his value), but I think that would be a mistake.

by Jeff Reese on Sep 27, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully I'm not hijacking or anything

But in a 10-team H2H dynasty league I have, I’m picking either 3rd or 4th in an upcoming first-year player draft (so 2009 draftees and new international signees).

Now, they have to be signed to an MLB team to be eligible, so no Chapman. Strasburg and Ackley are probably certs to go #1 and #2. Who do I pick at #3/#4? In a 10-teamer, things are really…shallow. I’ve got a stack of young pitching (Billingsley, Nolasco, Johnson, Kershaw, Holland, Cahill and Liriano if you want to count him) being backed up by Wandy and Carpenter. I also have a serious OF surplus with Sizemore, Bay, Werth, Ethier and Pence with Taylor, Jennings and Borbon all getting there.

Who do I pick after Strasburg and Ackley? Matzek? Crow? Turner?

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Sep 28, 2009 4:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, actually now that I'm here:

1. Strasburg
2. Chapman
3. Ackley
4. Crow
5. Matzek
6. Turner
7. Tate
8. Wheeler
9. Scheppers
10. Leake

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you can take your queue from other lists. Specifically, Matzek seems to be the choice at #3 with whatever other arm you like at #4.

by mg050369 on Sep 28, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top 10

1-Strasburg
2-Ackley
3-Chapman
4-Matzek
5-Tate
6-Turner
7-Crow
8-Green
9-Wheeler
10-Purke

Grab Some Pine Meat!

by Gobroks on Sep 28, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping

when I see everyone putting down Wheeler it’s Zack and not Tim right?

1. S.Strasburg
2. D.Ackley
3. A.Chapman
4. T.Matzek
5. J.Turner
6. M.Purke
7. Z.Wheeler
8. D.Tate
9. K.Gibson
10.S.Miller

Draft guru in training.

by tj.hendricks on Sep 30, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Top 10

1. S. Strasburg
2. D. Ackley
3. A. Chapman
4. T. Matzek
5. S. Miller
6. M. Purke
7. G. Green
8. J. Turner
9. B. Borchering
10. J. Mitchell

I’d have Tate around 15 or so, but even that might be too high for me. For some reason I really think he’s going to bust.

Mitchell’s a personal favorite, and I could’ve gone with Leake or Wheeler there, but I wanted to get him in to the top 10.

by seabass on Sep 30, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

does the twins signing sano

change anyone’s lists?

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

by biggentleben on Sep 30, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Not mine

He’d probably be closer to 30 (if not later)

by Jeff Reese on Sep 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tate at 15? LOL

People have Tate so low because he’s an “athlete” and “athletes” can’t hit? Well, that’s proposterous. Lots of players get labeled “athlete” and do just fine. I guess the people on this site know more than real general managers.

by psugator on Sep 30, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Tate

As the draft approached, the word was that if the Padres didn’t grab Tate at 3, he could’ve easily fallen out of the first round. As a matter of fact, in one of his last mock drafts, Keith Law had him doing just that. I’m not purporting I know as much as real GMs, I’m just saying I think all of these other players are “surer” things than Tate is. It’s not that I don’t think he’s talented, it’s that I think his potential to bust is higher than most.

Frankly, after Strasburg/Ackley/Chapman, my list is quite fungible – there’s a tier of about 12 players or so that I have rated pretty closely.

by seabass on Sep 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunn was an athlete

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Sep 30, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ackley vs. Chapman...

…seems to be the interesting choice. Do you go with the known quantity, the safer choice or the lesser known quantity that brings greater risk but perhaps a much bigger upside?

by mg050369 on Sep 30, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

30 to 40 mill

to start the bidding…???/

overrated as it gets.

by matthewmafa on Oct 1, 2009 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you forgotten that dice-k cost 100 million

to barely be a rotation pitcher….hard to be more overrated than that

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Oct 1, 2009 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since when

did the number of dollars you sign for make you overrated?

A bust? Perhaps, but DiceK is not overrated. Everybody knows exactly what to expect when he takes the mound.

Who loves orange soda?

by Kenan and Kel on Oct 1, 2009 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd say that signing for 100 million

and ending up being a ‘rotation guy’ means that at one point he was overrated…..

probably not overrated now, but at the same point as we are with chapman…its hard to be more overrated

Fire Everyone

by billybeingbilly on Oct 1, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have

zero idea what he’ll sign for, yet he’s overrated because he might get more money than your comfortable with.

Awesome.

Who loves orange soda?

by Kenan and Kel on Oct 1, 2009 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is Overrated the appropriate term?

He has been #2 or #3 on every list. Therefore either everyone is overrating him or he is appropriately placed. I think, however, you could make the case that he will be OVERPRICED because he is a 21 year old true free agent.

by mg050369 on Oct 1, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

or

Everybody subject to the draft is underpriced.

by jibs on Oct 1, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

Draftees are woefully underpaid. The non-stop rhetoric about out of control bonuses is garbage. These teams have exclusive rights to negotiate with a player that they draft and will pay them peanuts until they hit arbitration.

by Jeff Reese on Oct 1, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

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