Community Prospect List - Angels

by cwhitman412 on Sep 24, 2009 4:18 PM EDT Comment 29 comments

Another very difficult list for me. To be honest, I really don't say very much talent in the system at all. It's gone a long way from being top 5 several years in a row earlier in the decade. I'm pretty sure my list will be way off, and as with the Mariners, I reserve the right to change my list at any time. 130 AB, 50 IP limits as usual.

1. Will Smith

2. Hank Conger

3. Trevor Reckling

4. Peter Bourjos

5. Mike Trout

Skaggs, Bell, and Grichuk are other intriguing names.

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by cwhitman412 on Sep 24, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions

1. Trevor Reckling
2. Mike Trout
3. Fabio Martinez Mesa
4. Will Smith
5. Hank Conger

by jar75 on Sep 24, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

I'd put Trout...

at 1. Reckling doesn’t have a high enough ceiling and I don’t like Smith too much.

by joegonzo on Sep 24, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

What's Your List?

Trout and Martinez Mesa lost points for level. Reckling is 21 or so in AA, which is great, plus he has decent stuff. He performed well except for terrible control. Smith got some real hype from a big Angels prospect site last year, and I see it coming through.

by cwhitman412 on Sep 24, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd go...

Trout
Bourjos
Reckling
Skaggs
Smith
Trout just has too high of a ceiling. I’m thinking something similair to Jay Bruce.

by joegonzo on Sep 24, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Angels

Tyler Skaggs
Trevor Reckling
Mike Trout
Pete Bourjos
William Smith

(Hank Conger)

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 24, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Q: what to make of Jordan Walden now days ?

Deolis Guerra = Daniel Cabrera ?
I tend to think so

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Sep 24, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

1. Trout
2. Skaggs
3. Reckling
4. Bourjos
5. Conger

by AKinn15 on Sep 24, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions

1. Trout
2. Conger
3. Walden
4. Skaggs
5. Bourjos

by gogotabata on Sep 24, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

1. trout
2. conger
3. skaggs
4. bourjos
5. smith

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

oops

meant to put Conger first. Trout #2.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions

1. Hank Conger
2. Jordan Walden
3. Mike Trout
4. Trevor Reckling
5. Ryan Chaffee

by jarjets89 on Sep 24, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions

They just had, what, six first-round picks?

Almost impossible for them not to get some amount of MLB talent out of that.

(By the way, this sort of thing is an excellent argument for why free-agent compensation picks should be abolished or altered. The way the system works now, it’s actually the big-market teams that benefit the most from them.)

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by PaulThomas on Sep 24, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions

yep

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Conger
Trout
Bourjos
Reckling
Skaggs

A lot of differences out there

by sjkqw on Sep 24, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions

I See A Ton.

5 players getting #1 votes so far.

by cwhitman412 on Sep 24, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

yea

no big time stand outs

by matthewmafa on Sep 24, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Conger
Reckling
Walden
Bourjos
Trout

Can’t understand why Conger isn’t getting more attention this year. He’s a 21-year-old catcher who held his own offensively and defensively in AA (Carlos Santana was 23 this year at the same level). He stayed healthy, showed improvement behind the plate – he caught 30% of basestealers and only allowed a few passed balls, though he did commit too many errors -, hit lefties well and put up a 68 SO/55 BB ratio. He only hit 11 homeruns, but was in a miserable offensive home park. He’s a top prospect.

Reckling and Walden both have huge question marks now, but their upside is mid- to high- rotation, and neither guy is that far off. Bourjos has made huge strides over the past two years, making a lot of solid contact in ‘08, and adding plate discipline this year. He needs to hit righties better and add some homerun pop, but has shown the capacity to add skills every year, so I think he still has a decent shot at becoming a regular. Trout’s ceiling could be much higher, or it could be where Bourjos is at now – let’s see how he does in full season ball. I also think people continue to unfairly discount Grichuk – the guy was a beast in rookie ball, getting significantly better in each month.

by rghan on Sep 24, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions

agreed on conger

catcher. improved his approach miles this year all while making the jump to AA. hit almost .300. not a ton of power yet but he’s got some in the tank. not sure his time will come with the Angels with Napoli entrenched…but he’s good.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Napoli entrenched

Too bad Scioscia would rather play Jeff “Bank a .600 OPS” Mathis.

by PissedMick on Sep 28, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Re Bourjos

How much value does a right-handed Jacoby Elsburry have? The comparison isn’t dead on, obviously, but I’m curious.

by rghan on Sep 24, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions

just as much as a left-handed one?

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Right...

A player with the same skills, but with the mlb-average splits. Obviously less valuable, but is he still a regular?

by rghan on Sep 24, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions

crap

i didn’t realize his platoon split was so severe. OPS is .350 points higher vs LHP

that’s not going to cut it as a starter unless he really improves. could still have plenty of value as a platoon guy and 4th OF, though.

baseball rules.

by doublestix on Sep 24, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Grichuk

Maybe the .418 BABIP and 64/9 K/BB has something to do with it…

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Sep 24, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions

17 and second in his league in total bases

That’s a lot of hard contact. I’ll take that over polish from a kid without his draft card any day of the week.

by rghan on Sep 24, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions

my list

Trout
Conger
Reckling
Walden
Skaggs

by byronlhsdrmr on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 AM EDT reply actions

My list

Wow this system looks much weaker than I thought.

1. Conger – Huge strides in bb’s this year, like Bourjos.
2. Reckling – young, in AA, solid enough season.
3. Walden – he is what he is – if he was healthy all year, probably would’ve slid him ahead of Reckling.
4. Trout – too much potential compared to the rest that the level difference isn’t enough for me to drop him for now.
5. Bourjos – huge strides in bb’s this year.

Smith/Skaggs would follow, at first glance.

by toonsterwu on Sep 25, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions

1. Reckling
2. Walden
3. Smith
4. Trout
5. Conger

Reckling doesnt have great stuff, but he’s the best of guys with decent ceilings and seemingly the only one who hasnt had performance or injury issues in 09. If Conger can stay behind the plate he would shoot way up, but I dont think he can and the risk of him moving to 1B is frightening. He may not even be a major leaguer over there. Pretty poor system right now, but reloaded with all those picks. Make or break kind of year for lots of guys… be very interesting to see where they are a year from now.

by alskor on Sep 26, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions