Hudson or Hellickson?
by octopusink on Sep 22, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
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Two rapidly rising prospects this year Daniel Hudson of the ChiSox and Jeremy Hellickson of the Rays. same age, different paths (high school v college). both with good but not crazy good stuff, and both with fairly dominant performances in the high minors this year. both about ready to be regular big leaguers (within a year or so...). If you can have one or the other...who you taking?
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I'm intrigued with Hudson
but the scouting reports on Hellickson seem to be better, and there’s more to judge Hellickson off of, thus leaning Hellickson now.
Great question.
I struggled with this, but went with Hellickson in the end. The longer track record played a role, but the deciding factor for me was that reading what scouts say, it sounds like Hellickson might be the best in the minors at mixing his pitches.
Not a knock on Hudson, by any means — it’s virtually a toss-up between the two.
BTW
Hellickson was fantastic tonight in the AAA championship game- I imagine we get to see him throw-in-the-show a bit now right?
5 2 0 0 1 2
Not on the 40-man roster
so he won’t get a cup of coffee.
Vroom vroom party starter
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by Imperialism32 on Sep 22, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
3 to 1 so far
a little surprised its that much for hellickson. i think personally i would vote hellickson over hudson, but it would be close in my mind. is that how people are feeling too? or is the 3:1 ratio indicative of a larger perceived gap between the two?
I think
the talent is probably much closer than the voting indicates, but I also think Hellickson is clearly ahead as of right now.
In a year or two’s time, who knows. I could Hudson developing into a better starter. Just … as of now, Hellickson has a longer track record of success, seems more advanced in his arsenal.
The vote reflects the overall unfamiliarity with Hudson.
Their talent levels are a lot closer than that votes makes it look. It’s just that Hellickson’s been a decent prospect for years, and people are excited with the step up he seems to have made this year.
Hellickson has one of the best change-ups in the minors
throw in an above average fastball and breaking ball and a sinker that is developing quite well and he may be one of the top 5-10 pitching prospects in all of baseball. If he has a big spring and start to the 2010 season in AAA it will be hard for the Rays to keep him in AAA despite 5 pretty good MLB starters in Price, Garza, Shields, Davis, and Niemann.
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
That's awesome
but do you know anything about Hudson?
by Daniel Berlyn on Sep 23, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
Haven’t you heard, Hellickson has 3 above average pitches with a fourth on the way!
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by Kenan and Kel on Sep 23, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
are you saying that Hellickson doesn't have 3 above average pitches?
Yes I am a little biased but watching him pitch I’m not sure how you could call his fastball/change-up/breaking ball only average.
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
no I don't
but that doesn’t change my statement. Heck maybe Hudson is a top 10 pitching prospect I don’t know.
Jennings, Hellickson, Davis, Brignac, Beckham, Moore > Your top 3
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