Under the radar prospects
by NYSOX on Aug 7, 2009 2:23 PM EDT
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Ok guys ..its time to get talking about some of the guys who get little Publicity. We all know the big names..Stanton and Heyward and the consensus top 50 -100 guys..who are some guys that dont get the recognition right now..but may get the love come the offseason when everyone starts there lists..heres some of mine
SP David Bromberg( I wish he was more of a GB pitcher..but still solid)SP Zach Britton( gets overshadowed by the big 4 in the O's system)3b Edinson Rincon( I think in a year he may be a top 50 guy)SP Alexander Perez( promoted to Hi-A and has still been pretty good)SS Lance Zawadski(SP) was real good in Hi-a..hasnt slipped much in AAI am just interested to hear something about some semi obscure guys. Most on this board know these guys and have there sleepers..just trying to start some talk
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Another Oriole... Brandon Erbe
by Markakis and Wieters 4 Life on Aug 7, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
really?
Erbe doesn’t strike me as a guy who is under the radar at all . . .he’s been a well-known name in prospect circles ever since his awesome 2005 debut as a 17 year old and his strong full season debut in 2006.
Overshadowed?
He gets kinda overlooked because of all the other arms in the O’s system and Wieters eating up most of the attention last year. He was well regarded a few years back..but has slipped some. He seems to be getting back to near where he was.
Agreed
not underrated, but overshadowed.
He’ll be Latos next year. A pitcher with nasty stuff, but inconsistent, and often gimpy. He’ll put it together and we’ll hear talks of the Os thinking he’ll be better suited for the pen.
Just my thoughts
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I have been a Britton fan for a few years now....
He’s a fantastic prospect, and I hope scouting sites like Baseball America start to realize it.
Galvez
I was really in on him last year..kinda lost track of him this year. is he playing SS or has he already moved? that was the talk I heard about him..is that he would end up at 2B
2B
he’s been playing there the last couple of weeks
Jake Jefferies
I didn't say I wasn't flawless, but I damn sho' don't tarnish!
Hmmm...
I didnt see alot with his stats. His K/BB ratio is good. Is he good defensivley? the type that will stay as a C?
He projects to be an average offensive-minded catcher.
His D is coming around.
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Simon Castro
He is another guy I like. He has cut down on his walks this year. He may be in the Pads top 5 or so after the season, depending on Tate and some picks signing. Another guy I like out of the Pads system is Wynn Pelzer. take away a few awful starts and his numbers look real good.
tell me more...
I have been following his numbers this year, but have heard/know very little about his pitching style/repertoire. I know he throws hard, but what else does he work with. Also is he in line for a promotion?
I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been promoted yet
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Watching his innings
I read that the Padres were trying to limit his innngs. He has been going just 5 innings each start
Grant Desme- drafted in the 2nd round 07 and is currently putting up a 1042 OPS in A+, this being his first year because of a injury
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
Desme
Wow..he has put up some stats. The A’s have so many guys in there system. What was Desme’s injury?another guy I like in that system is Josh Donaldson. I notice he has played some 3B of late. I kinda see a Scott Hatterberg type guy who might be able to stick at C longer then Hatterberg
all I know is that it was a wrist injury. I think it was random rather than cronic, but
I wonder what he would be doing now if he didn’t miss 1.5 years in-between college and this season, and if It had been a leg not hand injury. although I guess he wouldn’t have gone 35/38 in SB if he was recovering from a leg injury.
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
Desme is a new name
looks powerful, but I can’t stand seeing 131:41 K:BB rate. If he gets that fixed, he should be a terrific player with power/speed
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Walk rate's fine
K rate, not so much.
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-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
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Edinson Rincon
I second his nomination. Glowing scouting reports, gaudy numbers.
Jeurys Familia and (as mentioned) Simon Castro also jump out.
Rincon
Thats one position the Pads are pretty deep at ..3B Forsythe in AA, Darnell in Hi-A and Rincon at SS. I read where some scout said that Rincon is a guy you dont trade. Thats pretty good considering Rincon is so far away.
it looks like the Padres have a lot of talent coming up
Castro, Rincon, and Galvez are a pretty solid trio
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Padres to track
It would be nice if Rincon or Galvez might accidentally pick up a ball hit in their direction every now and then, but there’s lots to like with their bats.
While he gets some more attention that these other guys, I still think Decker doesn’t get enough. He obliterated the AZL last year and is tops in the MWL in OBP and second in slugging. He won’t turn 20 until he shows up in Peoria next year. There really isn’t a HS hitter from last year’s draft class who has produced as much as him (which I recognize isn’t the same thing as saying he’s a better prospect than all of them). He also has the arm to be a legitimate RF. I think too many people let the body fool them.
Just a thought: If Decker were to go 0-100 from today, he would still own a .400 OBP as a professional.
by realitypolice on Aug 7, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Blake Tekotte, OF – Padres
Brad Meyers, RHP – Nationals
Craig Clark, LHP – Giants
Trayvon Robinson, OF – Dodgers
Darin Mastroianni, OF – Blue Jays
Daniel Nava, OF – Red Sox
Mickey Storey, RP, Stockton – He’s a little old (23 in A+), but he’s put up a 45/4 K/BB ratio, a 1.36 ERA, and a 0.70 WHIP in 33 IP between Kane County and Stockton this year.
Kenny Smalley, SP, Kane County – 24 appearances, but he started in the pen and moved to the rotation. Since becoming a starter he’s put up the following line: 16 starts, 89.1 IP, 62 H, 21 ER, 35 BB, 79 K, 2.12 ERA, 1.09 WHIP, .198 BAA.
Henry Rodriguez, RP, Sacramento – 37.1 IP, 64 K. Has a 4.10 ERA because he’s walked 28 batters, but the stuff is ELECTRIC. Has been struggling after the all-star break, but going into the break he had a 3.42 ERA, 23.2 IP, 13 H, 17 BB, 43 K, and a .159 BAA.
Ben Hornbeck, Stockton – 22 years old; he’s put up 96 IP, 81 H, 36 BB, 127 K, 3.56 ERA, 1.22 WHIP between Kane County, Stockton, and one (horrible) start in Midland this year (he was an emergency fill-in starter in Midland). Without the Midland start he’s put up 92.2 IP, 76 H, 32 BB, 126 K, 3.11 ERA, 1.17 WHIP.
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Dammit...
Obviously Hornbeck is a SP. I forgot to insert his position.
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 7, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Word on Storey is that he's a soft-tosser
Probably having his best season, but doesn’t have the stuff to be more than middle relief-ish in the majors.
Rodriguez is like the pitching version of Jack Cust… by my count, he’s faced 165 batters and only 74 of them have ended up putting a ball in play.
Hornbeck was drafted as an organizational arm but the A’s found a way to add about 8 MPH to his fastball, which is sort of incredible. Almost has to have good offspeed stuff, although I can’t find anything specific. Probably tops out as a Ruddy Lugo type, though.
I got nothing on Smalley.
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Ruddy Lugo is a RHP, though
Hornbeck is a lefty, and lefties with high K rates always find jobs. I expect Hornbeck to at least have a good shot at being a LOOGY.
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 9, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Storey is in AAA now
Made his debut Saturday. He faced 5 batters; k’d 3 and got 2 groundouts. If he stays in Sac the rest of the year, maybe we can get a better idea of what he’s got.
Well, that's certainly a nice start...
I have to say, if you’re ranking relief prospects purely on stats (which is silly, but bear with me), he’d probably be in the top 10 in the minors.
I’m still backing Sam Demel as the best future reliever out of the A’s minor leagues, personally.
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-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
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I like Demel more than Storey,
but I like Storey a lot as well. And Paul Smyth is turning some heads. Check the K/BB ratio…wow. Is it just me, or are the A’s very, very deep in reliever prospects?
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 10, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not just you
Their minor league pitching coaches have figured out a way to add velocity to certain pitchers’ arms, which is allowing them to consistently turn mid-round picks into serious prospects. Carignan went from 91-93 to 95-97, Dan Thomas did the same, and we know about Hornbeck.
Smyth’s line is so ridiculous that it’s almost a bad thing, like they just way underestimated where he should have been posted.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
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Nathan Eovaldi
Drafted in the 11th round of the 2008 draft
Started off horrible in his first 20 innings this year.. but since he has put up an ERA of less then 2.25 and his overall ERA is nearing 3.00 now..
absolutely
Good call. I think he would have been a much higher pick, if not for perceived signability issues. Younger than Ethan Martin by 8 months, with a lower era and similiar h/9, though not as many k/9 (but not as many bb/9, either).
Trevor May
Another guy I have been following. Even before the Lee trade I thought he would sneak into the back of the Phils top 10
Was under Knapp's shadow in Lakewood.
3.27 ERA, 3.41 FIP, 1.28 WHIP, 11.21 K/9, 4.42 BB/9 as a 19 year old, not too shabby.
for A's prospects
i’ll echo the the choice of donaldson and spencer as some have mentioned. Both were fairly high picks top 3 rds in 07 so they arent really underrated. But they struggled in their 1st full seasons w/ Cubs/Phillies then considered “throw ins” w/ the harden/blanton deals. They are playing well in AA, though not sure where they fit in long term. Donaldson may move to 3b with suzuki around and spencer might be behind other 1b/OF prospects
If this Twins push him up the latter a bit
SP Santos Arias Twins
heres a looooong shot but I like his chances SP Steven Hirshfeld – he is old for his league though……..
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 7, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
Nino Leyja
18 year old shortstop in the MWL (A), hitting for power with speed)
He has showed VERY good power this season...
3 HR so far, with several ground rule doubles etc…Some people I know out in Vancouver (where he started the year) said he was hitting the ball harder than anyone on the the team.
Really?
He had an ISO of .164 in the AZL as a 17-year-old. The AZL is notoriously difficult for power hitters— I think he was in the top 15 in ISO in the league.
He’s a long, long way from being MLB ready, but he’s definitely got serious potential.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
azl
that’s kind of hard to believe that the AZL is tough on hitters. spring training in Arizona and the Fall League are always considered hitters havens. i have a tough time believing it’s hard on hitters in the middle of the summer.
baseball rules.
Fall League is 23-25 year olds
Spring training is MLB players, who average around 26-28.
AZL is mostly 18-20 year olds.
That’s the difference. Most of those guys just aren’t physically ready to hit for power in a major-league sized ballpark.
For an even more extreme example of this, check out the DSL. It’s hot as christ in the DR during the summer, but the DSL is probably the most extreme pitcher’s league anywhere in the minors.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Yea...
so this argument was pretty much caused by my laziness. I went to fangraphs and typed in nino and instead of clicking Nino Leyja, I clicked Nino Bongiovanni…I went back to check and see if his ISO was really .164 and I realized my error. whoops. And in case you were wondering, Nino Bongiovanni did log a nice .038 ISO in 1939, so he definitely wasn’t a power hitting 18 year old SS, more like a recently passed away, 97 year old OF for the Reds who played 1 season and apparently died 20 minutes from my hometown.
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Casey Crosby
He rarely seems to be thrown in with the Lyles, Moore, Perez crowd, but he has been dominate all season.
+1
He could be top 50 right now.
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Chris Withrow
this guy is in his first full professional season and hes already at AA. Hes 20 years old. He was drafted in 2007 but missed all last year with some freak injuries. He started this year at A+ ball and struck out 106 in 85 innings and was promoted to AA this past week. Nobody seems to talk about this guy at all.
+1
He’s been unlucky too.
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Randall Delgado
maybe not under the radar..but he has a no hitter thru 7 with 9 Ks
Fabio Martinez Mesa
He’s only in the AZL, but he’s put up some very nice strikeout numbers in his 9 starts.
two braves hitters
Adam Milligan is lighting it up in Rome. Drafted by the Braves 3 times, missed time last year due to injury.
Gerardo Rodriguez hitting well at Myrtle. 1B/OF, likely better suited for a corner OF. Good power potential. Yankees for some reason released him when he was 19. Needs to improve discipline.
I'm new here
So I’m wondering what everyone thinks of Rudy Owens of the Pirates. He has great numbers this year and seems to get no attention. Am I fool for thinking he is a good prospect?
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Owens
I dont know alot about him..but I think I read online BA that he was in the Pirates midseason top 10 after all the trades happened
Thanks for the link
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DJ Mitchell
2008 draftee out of Clemson, who was recruited as a position player and converted to pitching. Between low- and high-A in 122 1/3 innings, Mitchell is 11-6 with a 2.80 ERA, over 8 k/9, over 4:1 k:bb, and a GO/AO ratio over 2.5.
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Brock Bond
2B prospect in a system with a very clear path to the majors.
Honorable Mentions:
Scott Sizemore (2B) – DET
Kasey Kiker (SP) – TEX
Mark Rogers (SP) – MIL, for some reason I started tracking him at the start of the year, and even though MIL has taken it very slow with him, he still has an electric arm, and is still only 23
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He's also had TJ and other bad injuries.
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i should have mentioned the injuries
mark rogers is recovering from injuries ;).
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Kenta Suda, 20 year old pitcher in the Mariners system.
Still in the instructional leagues because of huge control problems (2-3 wild pitches per start and way too many walks), but he has nastelectric stuff. Solid heat on the fastball, a really great breaking ball, and a solid forkball.
In relief stints he seems to have better control. I think once he builds up his stamina he won’t have so much control problems. His stuff is good enough that he only needs mediocre command to be a dominating starter.
I hope to see him in West Tenn by 2011.
Scouting Report?
You have one? He wasn’t in BA top 30. I know he was hurt, but what kind of stuff does he have?
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Lamb
This is what I’ve been able to piece together.
FB 89-91 topping out at 93, could add a tick as he develops. FB has movement. Good curve w/ the potential to be above average. Suprisingly good change for a guy drafted outta H.S. Mechanics looked smooth from the clips I saw. Was thought to be a top 2 round talent before a car accident 4 months before the draft. I know it’s not a whole lot but should give you a feel. Hope this helps.
4 Cubs
SS Hak-Ju Lee – Big international signing a year ago, putting on a show in the Northwest League in the field and at the plate. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some people list him in the back end of their Top 100 prospects lists.
IF Ryan Flaherty – Low batting average will hold him down, but his peripherals range from good to excellent (especially his power). His BABIP suggests he’s hit some bad luck, too.
P Casey Coleman – Lots of people who follow the Cubs’ minors love him for his presence/attitude/etc., plus he’s had some good outings. Don’t think his stuff will carry him past the back end of the rotation, but he’s a gamer.
P Ryan Searle – Fantastic sinking stuff. He’s still rough around the edges, but for someone who just turned 20 in the Florida State League, I’m very curious to see how he develops.
Searle
I like him. Pretty young for Hi-A. I read somewhere he has or had some temperment issues? I like his GB rate
Yeah, apparently he’s a bit of a hot-head. It’s not a problem when it comes to listening to his coaches, but it sounds like his emotions can get the better of him on the mound.
by Outshined_One on Aug 8, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like Coleman
I think he could be a good #4.
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He's been rumored to have toyed
around with a cutter/slider of some sort, which could help him quite a bit if he could develop it. That said, yeah, he’s a mid-end of the rotation guy, but from reading interviews, the kid seems to be bright and understands his abilities.
Logan Watkins
I’d add him to the mix. Advanced approach, good athletic background. Going to be nice watching Watkins/Lee grow up together.
Starling Marte
OF, Pirates
Very raw player who’s handled an aggressive promotion to Class A extremely well.
He needs to work on his plate patience but everything else is there.
5+5 More
Here are 5 more that you’ve probably heard of that noone mentioned yet:
- Zach Stewart-SP/RP (Tor)
- T.J. House-SP (Cle)
- Wilmer Font-SP (Tex)
- Manny Banuelos-SP (NYY)
- Lance Lynn-SP (StL)
Here are 5 deeper sleepers that you may not have heard of:
- Juan Oramas-SP (SD) (19 y/o kid on loan to the Mexican League and leading the league in ERA!)
- Ezequiel Carrera-OF (Sea)
- Johermyn Chavez-OF (Tor)
- Alexia Amarista-OF (LAA)
- Rymer Liriano-OF (SD)
Ross
another guy that gets lost in the depth of the Rangers system. He has been great. Think he gets a few starts in Lo-A? does he go to Hi-A off the bat next year?
Doubt he'd start in high A next season
Despite all the breathless talk of Nolan Ryan doing away with pitch counts (he hasn’t done that), the Rangers are being very careful with their guys in low minors, and their younger pitchers in particular. Martin Perez only pitched one inning last night because they are limiting his innings. I’d bet on Ross beginning next year in Low A, then moving up at some point, while the team is careful with his innings. He only has 49.1 right now, so I’d be he’d be limited next year to about the 110 or so that Perez is going to have this season.
Both Ross and Tullis (who looks like a genius pick in the 8th round) have tremendous GB and K rates and are above league average in nearly every other measurable stat. I think both could be considered top 10 in that deep system next season.
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Gustavo Pierre
Toronto SS putting up solid numbers in the GCL as a 17 year old
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Eduardo Sanchez
the 20 year old Cardinals’ reliever has high 90’s heat and is putting up some very good numbers. apparently he hit 99 on the gun last night.
Andrew Lambo
20 year old drafted in the 4th round of 2007… for all the talk mike moustakas gets, lambo is younger by a few months and already in AA. Lambo in AA is putting up better Stats then Moustakas in A ball. I never hear anyone talking about lambo. hes pretty under the radar
Dodgers #1
He’s the Dodgers #1 prospect according to BA. Not sure how that rates as under the radar…LOL Though I will agree he doesn’t get much pub.
because BAs top 50 midseason
Moustakas is number 20 but lambos not even in the top 50 at all!!
David Lough
22 year old kid in the Royals system is having a pretty good year in AA. He looks to be 1 of there better outfielders in the system. With Dejesus trade rumors flying around, wouldnt be surprised to see him and or Parraz get a chance to fight for a OF position next year.
haven't heard the dejesus trade rumors
although there is a bit of a hole in CF right now. lough might get a shot at that at some point next year.
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Mitch Moreland
Long one of my favorite Ranger prospects, he just keeps hitting. Hitting for average, decent power, good plate discipline. Not a top 100 prospect, but he looks like a future big league regular for some team if not for the Rangers, where he seems blocked.
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Moreland
I love his stat line. Does seem like his future may be as trade bait. As far as defense is he passible at the corner OF positions and 1B?
Passable is a good word
definitely not an asset, though his arm is good.
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+1
Moreland actually reminds me a lot of Chris Davis, though not quite the same K issues and maybe a tad less power. The bat looks pretty darn good though. Moreland does not get the pub, but he is definitely a borderline top 100 guy.
Peter Bourjos
Has done a great job improving his plate discipline this year, which was his main flaw going into the season
Two more...
Anthony Capra, LHP, Stockton – 22 years old; he’s had problems with walks, but he’s been difficult for batters to hit. 115.2 IP, 84 H, 51 BB, 123 K, 3.27 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, .203 BAA between Kane County and Stockton.
Paul Smyth, RHP, Vancouver – Draftee from this year; hasn’t allowed a run yet in 25 IP in the minors. 25 IP, 11 H, 3 BB, 31 K, 0.00 ERA, 0.56 WHIP, .131 BAA.
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Desme
he still has to prove himself in the upper levels, but how often do minor leaguers go 30hr/30sb in a season…anyone have a list in recent seasons? 2 yrs of injuries he looked like a bust, known as the player picked just ahead of mike stanton. from that 07 draft if sean doolittle, corey brown, and desme even turn into solid, above avg players that would be a huge boost for a future A’s offense.
brown vs desme…will either be the cf of the future?
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=LF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=446395
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=CF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=446320
I'd love to know that
Desme currently has 28 2B, 25 HR, and 37 SB. I bet he’s the only player in the minors with 25+ 2B, 25+ HR, and 35+ SB. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up with 35/30/45, since he’s almost there already. That’s pretty ridiculous. I wonder what the best total is for 2B+HR+SB in a season in the history of minor league baseball? Desme is at 90 right now, and I would expect him to end up easily over 100. Has any prospect ever put up 100 of those combined?
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 10, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
Those stats are hard to find. I can look up leaders from individual seasons, but I want a database of all-time leaders in certain categories. I am wondering if Grant Desme is quietly having a historic season.
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 10, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: 30/30 and 100 combined
Halman came close last year: 29 HR, 31 SB. Also 29 2B, so 89 combined.
In 2007, Justin Maxwell had 27 HR, 35 SB and 25 2B, for 87 combined.
In 1982, Strawberry had the 30/30: 34 HR, 45 SB. Also, 19 2B, for 98 combined, so close there, too.
In 1982, Gary Redus had 24 HR, 54 SB and 29 2B, for 107 combined, so there’s your 100+ combined. If you include his stats from MLB that year, he had 25 HR, 65 SB and 32 2B.
Also, in 2005, Brandon Wood had 53 2B, 43 HR and 7 SB, for 103 combined. But I assume you’re looking for more SBs.
In MLB, Vlad had 2 seasons in a row where he topped 100 combined and had 30+ in each category. Didnt get too close in the minors, tho. Soriano TWICE had 2 such seasons in a row. Barry Bonds also had 2 such seasons, but not in a row. A-Rod, Canseco, Sizemore, Strawberry and Bobby Bonds each had one, also. Surprisingly, Mays never did it.
I suspect that there have been at least several guys that have done this in the minors. But guys that are talented enough to have such seasons probably dont stay in the minors long, which is one reason why they may be hard to find.
Doesn't matter which categories (Wood)
I projected Desme to likely end up with 35 doubles, 30 HR, and 45 SB. I was trying to find a player that had had a season with at least 100, possibly more combined of those three stats. Thanks for the list. Desme really might be having possibly a historic season, very quietly. The guys to do it in the major leagues are obvious all-star players. I don’t see Desme as an obvious all-star; that’s why I was comparing him to minor leaguers. Anyway, thanks for the info.
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by CaliforniaJag on Aug 10, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus but Brandon Wood was insane in 2005.
100 extra-base hits? In 130 games?
How on earth does he not have a job in MLB yet?
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-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Because he's not really very good
He’s a total hacker whose numbers have been great – in places where the ball travels a long distance and breaking balls don’t have the same bite. Every time he’s faced a neutral environment, he’s been revealed for what he his… the most over-rated offensive player of the last decade.
by realitypolice on Aug 11, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Tommy Mendoza
What’s his deal? It seems like he was a somewhat major prospect about 3 or 4 years ago, but after getting caught (?) with steroids, his stock dropped dramatically. His performance over the past two years have been reasonably middling as well. Now, however, he’s still only 21 and is in AA and pitching reasonably well there – he isn’t striking out a ton of batters, but his control is outstanding and his FIP is amongst the best in the league. Can anybody tell me more about him? What’s his stuff life? What is his story?
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How about Randall Delgado?
He’s just 19 this year, and throws Easy gas at 94-95 and has a still very projectible frame, as he’s very thin at 6’3" and just 165. His stats for the year aren’t over-whelming as he’s struggled some with fastball command, a poor defense behind him, and working on adding secondary stuff; but he seems to have fixed something as his control has improved dramatically lately.
He had a no-no through seven in his last start, but got pulled because of his PC, even though he was still dominant.
Delgado in his last 4 starts: 26 IP, 15 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 31 K, 1.38 ERA, 0.69 WHIP
He’s really found his control, and is dominating now. He had 39 walks in his first 69 IP (5.1 BB/9), in his last 33 IP, he’s had only 5 walks (1.4 BB/9). So that’s a pretty dramatic turnaround.
So the Braves have a 19 yr old who can already throw 95 consistently with clean mechanics and can touch 97 a few times a start, and he’s likely to add some more velocity as he gets stronger. If the secondary stuff comes along, he could be another big-name prospect in a year or two. I’m anxious to see how he finishes out.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
Delgado
I am with you in that I think he has turned the corner. He has cut his walks and that was half his issue it seems. That should help him go more then 5 innings a start before he hits his count.
He’s just been downright nasty his last couple times out… I listened to most of his start where he no-hit Savannah for seven, and he was hitting corners with that fastball, working the breaking ball for strikes, getting ahead on nearly every hitter, and generating a lot of swings and misses. If he’s painting the black at 95, and working the breaking ball for strikes no one in the Sally League is going to hit him.
IMHO, he’s a top five prospect in the Braves org right now (edging DeVall who may be having major surgery):
1. Heyward
2. Freeman
3. Teheran
4. Spruill
5. Delgado
I also think his ERA is selling him a bit short; obviously the walks were up earlier in the year, so he wasn’t that effective, but he’s out-pitched that 4.41 ERA, and has a 3.95 FIP, which is one reason I think he’s slightly over-looked.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
questions
interesting post. 2 questions:
-what kind of breaking ball does he throw? how would you describe it?
-is he primarily a 2-pitch pitcher and, if so, is he working on a 3rd pitch?
intriguing guy.
He’s got a change that could be good in time, and a curveball. Both suffered from his over-reliance on that FB earlier in the year, but I know from listening to his last start that he was working the curve for strikes last time out, which is definitely a sign of progress for him with the pitch.
He’s still pretty raw, and he’s got a potentially elite pitch with his FB.
Q: If on-base pct is so important then why don't they put it on the scoreboard? -Failcoeur
A: Because the Braves don't want to show their fans how bad you suck.
Caleb Joseph
Great offensive numbers as a catcher in A+. His main flaw is that his BB rate is still relatively low but this has improved drastically.
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