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Midseason 2009 Top 100 Prospects

Hello, hello.  This is my second time doing a Top 100 list, with the first coming just about 9 months ago.  As I said multiple times in that post, I do these primarily for my own personal use (I'm in a dynasty league just like all of you), but I also like to get criticisms and suggestions from the community.  So, I'm posting my list here, with rationales, and letting you pick it apart.  Don't feel obligated to be gentle; I've been through this before, and it won't help either of us to go easy on me.


This edition of the list is going to be broken down into quarters.  This is not to say that there is a huge dip in performance between #25 and #26, #50 and #51, or #75 and #76...  It's just to make the list easier to digest.  In fact, as many people have said many times, the actual difference between spots on these lists is minimal.  So keep that in mind!

Couple other things.  First off, if I mention what a guy profiles as, or what a guy compares to, I'm only talking about statistical comparisons.  I have not check body types, handedness, pitch arsenals, swings, deliveries, etc., unless otherwise noted.  Also, I have purposely not included any 2009 Draftees, regardless of whether or not they've signed.  I realize that this limits the usefulness of the list, but it makes this a whole lot easier, and the lack of pro data makes me weary of draftees, anyway.  All I would be going off of is a mashup of professional analysts' opinions.  (That being said... yes, Strasburg would be #1 ;-) )

Now, before I get to the rankings, I'd just like to explain how I came to this list.  First off, I got a pool of names that were considered.  These were from past prospect lists, midseason lists this year, and current minor league leaderboards.  Next, I arranged them by position (C/1B/2B/3B/SS/OF/P).  I ranked them within their positions, and then I combined all the non-pitcher positions into a hitters' list.  I accomplished this by taking one player at a time from the six players at the top of the positional lists at any given time.  Finally, I combined the hitters and pitchers in a similar fashion, asking myself which of the top players on a list I preferred systematically.  After I arrived at a Top 100 list, I just tinkered with it every couple days if I saw something quirky.  I'm finding this sort of confusing to explain, so I hope it's alright to understand- if you have any questions, ask, and I'll be happy to elaborate.

Anyway, without further ado, let's get to the list, after the jump.

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Quartile One: From One to Twenty-Five

#1: Jason Heyward, OF, ATL

Heyward is a future superstar, and there is almost no argument for him to drop out of this top spot.  BP's Kevin Goldstein said it best when he said that Heyward is "one of those guys where it's not only impossible to find a scout who doesn't like him, it's impossible to find one that doesn't think he's going to be a massive star."  He turns 20 on Sunday, and is still mashing at AA.


#2: Mike Stanton, OF, FLA

I was higher than most on Stanton last November, and that hasn't changed a bit.  He already had plus power and took a good amount of walks, but this season he even cut back on strikeouts, which were really the only negative part of his game.  While he may end up playing corner outfield, there's no reason to think his bat won't play there.  The strikeouts are still a concern, but this isn't a Joel Guzman type we're looking at.


#3: Buster Posey, C, SF

The minors' best post-Wieters catcher is Posey, a guy who can hit for average, take a walk, hit for power, and realistically stay behind the plate.  I wasn't really high on Posey going into the draft last year, but he's made me a believer with a K/BB ratio of about 1, and a .312/.412/.518 line between AA and AAA (!).  He will likely see the majors before the end of the season, and is still only 22 years old.


#4: Jesus Montero, C, NYY

To quote Ron Burgundy, "Boy, that escalated quickly.  I mean, that really got out of hand fast."  The amount of attention paid to Montero this season has almost been hyperbolic.  And in some respect, rightfully so, because he's had one of the best bats in the minors.  However, there are still some flaws here.  Firstly, while Montero's defense has improved this season, there are still significant concerns that he will end up at DH, and indeed, his defense lags behind fellow Yankee prospect Austin Romine.  Secondly, he struggles to take walks, with a somewhat disappointing 7.7% BB-rate.  Thirdly, he went down for the season last month after fracturing a finger in his right hand.  Despite all this, he does have impressive power, and is an elite prospect as a 19-year old at AA.

 

#5: Madison Bumgarner, LHP, SF

I will probably never understand the Bumgarner critics.  They say his secondary stuff is still subpar.  Okay, that complain might have flown when he was breezing through low-A, but Bumgarner's at AA now, and starting pitchers don't breeze through this level with just a fastball, especially one that stays down in the mid-90s.  I don't care what you say, his breaking pitches are fooling hitters.  He will be fine, and is still the single best pitching prospect in the minors.

 

#6: Justin Smoak, 1B, TEX

I'm going to chalk up Smoak's troubles at AAA as small sample size.  He's still an incredibly advanced hitting prospect, with as high a ceiling as any.  I could see his absolute best case scenario, from purely a statistical perspective, as being Todd Helton in his prime.  So many people make the Teixeira comparison, but I think Smoak's batting eye is better, and he might not have as much raw power as Teix did/does.

 

#7: Jaff Decker, OF, SD

This is going to be my boldest ranking on the list.  I am absolutely mesmerized by this kid, and have been for a year now.  He has a crazily unique skill set, so much so that when I was looking for a comparison for him, I could only think of two names that would maybe work.  How often do you have a high school hitter with plus-plus plate discipline and plus-plus raw power, and plus-plus arm strength?  He might not have great range, but that could be his only flaw.  I'm thinking he's a downright frightening love child resulting from an orgy where the only attendees are Brian Giles, Lance Berkman, and Kevin Youkilis.  Probably my single favorite prospect right now.  I don't think it's possible to overstate his offensive potential.

 

#8: Chris Tillman, RHP, BAL

Last November, I ranked Tillman 8th on my Top 101.  My comment on him: At 20, Tillman dominated at AA.  Not "held his own", "dominated'.  He has a ton of potential, and could be heading up Baltimore's rotation by the end of 2009.  That's sort of pretty good.  The one question mark is his control, which will hopefully come as he gets older.  He noticeably cut down on his walks in August.  Well, guess what?  It's the end of 2009, he's joining Baltimore's rotation, and he's completely eradicated his control problems.  He's solidified himself as a truly elite pitching prospect.

 

#9: Brian Matusz, LHP, BAL

Well, that didn't take long.  Matusz was the top pitcher taken in the 2008 draft, and didn't pitch a pro inning until this season.  That didn't stop him from reaching the majors this week, after a whirlwind minor league season that saw him split time between Frederick and Bowie.  He was certainly as good as advertised, striking out more than a batter an inning, with good control and groundball tendencies.

 

#10: Carlos Santana, C, CLE

I've never been a huge fan of Santana.  What he did in 2008 was, to me, suspect.  Partially because of the ~.600 OPS he had put up in prior years, partially because of his age (22 in high-A), and partially because LA had thought little enough of him to ship him off for Casey Blake.  That being said, the guy has not disappointed in 2009, showing he can stick behind the plate, and continuing to kick the crap out of the ball at AA.  I love his K/BB ratio, but I'd like to see him challenged at AAA before the end of the year.

 

#11: Mat Latos, RHP, SD

It amuses me that analysts were trying to stop themselves from sounding too enthusiastic about Latos throughout this season.  Every ounce of praise came with a pound of disclaimers.  In the end, though, he is what he is: A very good lefty with surprisingly advanced control and nearly no mileage on his arm.  While that may raise red flags for some, I'm confident in him.  The Padres have rushed many a starting pitcher, but the early returns on Latos seem to indicate that he can handle it.

 

#12: Logan Morrison, 1B, FLA

In some respects, I'm worried about Morrison.  His lack of pro data this year (due to a wrist injury) scares me, mainly because some of his stats appear to be positive outliers (BB:K).  He has never really shown elite power outside of a few flashes, but if this newly acquired hyper plate discipline is for real, more consistent power will come.  Taking everything into account, Morrison is one of the top first base prospects in the game, but he comes with a few more risks than Smoak or the next first basemen on this list.

 

#13: Nick Weglarz, OF, CLE

One of my favorite prospects in the game right now.  Weglarz is a vastly underrated bat, and has been for some time now.  I compared Weglarz to Jim Thome here, and I still believe in that.  He's a bit like Decker, but with a worse hit tool and worse defense.  His park and luck-neutralized line is .274/.419/.513.  I mean, hell, look at his raw stats- the guy is OPSing .380 with a .230 average.  That's just silly.

 

#14: Desmond Jennings, OF, TB

Coincidentally, the post that I cited in my Weglarz analysis was a comparison between he and Desmond Jennings.  I said there that I didn't think that Jennings' defensive advantage would be enough to make up for Weglarz's offensive advantage.  I still believe that, even if it's only a slight overall edge to Weglarz.  If we neutralize Jennings' line the same way that we did with Weglarz, it's a good-but-not-great .285/.369/.437.  I think Jennings will be a very good leadoff man someday soon, but I am not sold on his power potential.

 

#15: Hector Rondon, RHP, CLE

Here's a guy I've been high on for a couple years now.  I threw him in my Top 100 last year, saying that another good year would get him Top 20 consideration.  Well, here it is.  He's up in AAA now, and has continued to get strikeouts, limit hits (and home runs, show plus control...  He just looks very good all-around, and while he has some fly ball tendencies, he has done a great job of keeping those fly balls in the park this year.  Overall, Rondon is a great bet to be an above average pitcher in the majors.

 

#16: Jhoulys Chacin, RHP, COL

Another guy I went big on last year, Chacin has tempered my enthusiasm about his ceiling, even if he's heightened my enthusiasm about his floor.  He probably profiles best now as a middle-of-the-rotation innings eater, but that's not a bad thing in the least.  He has great control to go along with extreme ground ball tendencies, and at the age of 20, was able to breeze through AA.  Chacin did continue to take steps back in his strikeouts, but I don't think that will be a problem at the major league level...  I am very confident that his skillset can get by without them.

 

#17: Pedro Alvarez, 3B, PIT

On the one hand, Alvarez has been disappointing so far this year, as people were expecting him to come out and dominate on all fronts, and he instead came very, very slowly out of the gate.  On the other hand, he's still had arguably the best full-season debut of any 2008 draftee.  Strikeouts are a problem, but Alvarez has plenty of power, and takes an adequate amount of walks.  There is still some chatter that he'll have to shift to first base, and while he'll be less valuable there, I think his bat could play at any position.

 

#18: Freddy Freeman, 1B, ATL

Like Morrison, I am extremely worried about Freeman's lack of power this season.  To make matters worse, his plate discipline has taken a severe hit since being promoted to AA, and it really wasn't exceptional to begin with.  I do think the power will eventually come, if only because Freeman is a lumbering 6-5, 220.  However, if the walks continue to regress at AAA and the majors, I could see a Garret Anderson-esque bat as being Freeman's absolute ceiling, with Hank Blalock being a likelier outcome.

 

#19: Alcides Escobar, SS, MIL

I don't love Escobar's bat, but the great thing about him is that you don't have to.  He is an elite defender at shortstop, and admittedly makes a lot of contact.  He seems to have good baserunning instincts, going 74-for-92 over the last two seasons.  If Escobar can continue to hit for average at the major league level, he could be very valuable all-around, though he may never have double-digit home run power.

 

#20: Daniel Hudson, RHP, CWS

I think we're going to see a ton of people going big on Hudson, and rightfully so.  I've equated what Hudson has done this year to what Derek Holland did last year.  He's shot up through three levels, dominating at all of them, and he's finished the year with some great numbers at AA.  I don't have the same concerns with Hudson that I had with Holland last year (mainly spawned from Holland's sudden velocity gain), but I think that this is a guy who could see the same rapid increase in hype that Holland and Jordan Zimmermann received last offseason.

 

#21: Dominic Brown, OF, PHI

Virtually no complaints about Brown's game.  While he doesn't do any one thing exceptionally well (save for defense), he is above average in just about every tool.  I'm a little concerned about Brown's power, but it's come on strong this year, and he should hit for 15-20 home runs annually at the major league level.  Very few prospects have improved their stocks as much as Brown has this season.

 

#22: Mat Gamel, 3B, MIL

If I were to break this list down, there would be a section for "Offense First" guys.  And, I think that Gamel is a snug fit at third on that list behind Decker and Weglarz.  He has certain issues (strikeouts, contact), and likely always will, but he has really learned how to take a walk this year.  I think Gamel is as good a bet as any to be a .270 hitter with 20 home runs.  I'll take that as an average year, with maybe .280/30 being a peak.

 

#23: Yonder Alonso, 1B, CIN

The production doesn't yet meet the hype for Alonso, who is currently rehabbing a broken hamate bone.  That being said, the production comes damn close.  He could stand to be a little more patient, or hit a few more home runs, but he's been good so far.  Not great, but good.  BA says that scouts love his short swing; I am not a scout, and I merely like his stats.

 

#24: Carlos Carrasco, RHP, CLE

That felt weird to type.  In his first two starts with his new organization, Carrasco put up more of the same numbers.  He struck out plenty of guys, he limited his walks, and... he gave up a bunch of runs.  It's been sort of an anomaly of a season for Carrasco, for whom the raw stuff has not generated raw success.  But, dig deeper, and you'll find that Carrasco's K/BB is as good as ever, and his luck/park-neutralized FIP is a much gentler 3.51.

 

#25: Wade Davis, RHP, TB

Wade Davis has been stranded at AAA by the Tampa Bay Rays.  That's not entirely fair to say, as Davis obviously has utilized the time well (making his K/BB much more attractive).  It's just that he really, really looks major league ready (although a chat comment from BA's Ben Badler seems to disagree).  I don't think he'll ever be as good as originally advertised (it's the control, which is still only OK), but he's a really, really good bet to be an effective mid-range starter.

 

Quartile Two: From Twenty-Six to Fifty

#26: Christian Friedrich, LHP, COL

Here's the rare case where a pitcher has actually improved dramatically upon promotion to the California League.  Friedrich is not without his flaws, but he has blown the competition away all season after a hit-or-miss 2008.  He looks like the next big strikeout phenom, and has passable control, to boot.  Blisters were a concern when he was drafted last season, but Friedrich has had no problem going deep into games so far.  Compared to other pitchers on this list, he has a much higher ceiling than Davis or fellow Colorado prospect Chacin, but comes with more risk, too.

 

#27: Fernando Martinez, OF, NYM

It's well documented that I have never been a fan of F-Mart.  His production has never, ever matched the hype, until this season...  And even then, the hype was borderline ridiculous.  He's been good at AAA, sure, but let's not forget what was originally advertised here: A legitimate power prospect in the mold of Manny Ramirez.  He's taken some big steps this year, but he needs to take even more big steps to get in that sort of conversation.  It's just a lot of faith in projection at this point, and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that.

 

#28: Kyle Blanks, 1B/OF, SD

I love that Blanks has continued to hit homers and draw walks, but his sudden jump in strikeouts (and it's been a really drastic jump) scares me.  Despite his time in the OF this season, I still think Blanks ends up (and profiles best) at first base, where he is admittedly less valuable.  There is the potential for him to hit 25-30 homers regularly, but I am worried about his sudden dip in contact ability.

 

#29: Tim Alderson, RHP, PIT

An impressive vital line this season has not prevented me from souring on Alderson's ceiling.  He looks more like a really good back-end type than anything else.  In terms of absolute ceilings, he's close to Kevin Slowey (which is not an insult, since Slowey is one of my favorite pitchers in the game, and my preseason Cy Young pick).  It's just that there are far more likely, less flattering comparisons to be made.

 

#30: Jake Arrieta, RHP, BAL

The third of Baltimore's big three pitching prospects is Arrieta.  Despite a noticeably lower ceiling than Tillman or Matusz, Arrieta is still an elite pitching prospect as a relatively sure bet.  He isn't absurdly young for his level (23 at AAA), but pitched very well at AA before being promoted to Norfolk.  The stats have been less impressive there, but Arrieta has been serviceable, at the very least.  I like him as a mid-rotation guy, with the potential to be even better if he makes some adjustments and begins inducing ground balls again.

 

#31: Kyle Drabek, RHP, PHI

Some people are grossly high on Drabek.  I am not one of those people.  He's seen sharp declines in performance since being promoted to AA, and has the much-talked about injury history.  I think he's a big risk, and the reward here is not exciting enough to compensate for it.  He is a good prospect, but not quite as good as everybody is hyping him up to be, I think.

 

#32: Jordan Lyles, RHP, HOU

While not quite as dominant as Bumgarner was in 2008, Lyles has been awfully good in the Sally League this season.  He has really established himself as having an ace-like ceiling...  I don't completely buy his secondary pitches, and he does get hit a lot in some starts.  I'd like to see how his pitches translate to higher levels.  Still only 18 years old, Lyles needs to show more consistency start-to-start.

 

#33: Jason Castro, C, HOU

We're a little bit spoiled right now to have so many great catching prospects, and I think a lot of the time, Castro gets lost in the shuffle.  Since being drafted by the Astros, many people have questioned that decision, calling it a reach.  While it very well may have been, Castro has been establishing himself as a good offensive prospect in his own right since then.  This season, he's earned a promotion to AA, and while his Cal League power may not have been for real, he has a good hit tool, and great plate discipline.

 

#34: Adrian Cardenas, IF, OAK

Since receiving tons of hype a couple years ago, Cardenas has been the subject of a lot of criticism.  While he may have initially been overrated, he is still a legitimately good prospect.  Maybe he can't stick at shortstop, and maybe he will never hit for power.  However, Cardenas can still be an offensive-minded second baseman, and I tend to believe that his bat will play at third base, too.  I like his high-contact approach, and I do believe that as he gets older, those doubles will turn into home runs (I'm thinking 15-20 annually).  Remember, Cardenas is still just 21 years old, and already at AAA.

 

#35: Michael Saunders, OF, SEA

Saunders has received a lot of attention over the past few years for being a toolsy, athletic outfielder with consistent .800 OPS production.  For some reason, nobody else paid attention to him.  (I ranked him 48th last November, saying that I was "banking on BA here".)  He has really come out of the gate strong this year, and other sources are finally starting to pick up on him.  I think he can consistently be above average offensively, and, even though he's playing LF right now, could be very good defensively in center field.

 

#36: Junichi Tazawa, RHP, BOS

Not exactly an imposing pitcher, listed at 5'11", Tazawa was signed from Japan and immediately became one of the Red Sox' top 5 prospects.  So far, so good.  Based on this list, I'm ranking him as Boston's best prospect (which seems wrong, until you really think about it).  He flat-out dominated the Eastern League before being promoted to Pawtucket for two starts.  Now in Boston, Tazawa has been thrust into the spotlight, and I think he's as good a bet as any to deliver.  This is a guy who many thought was major league ready last April.  He's a solid bet to be a good #3 starter, with the upside of a #2.

 

#37: Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, TB

While Hellickson has great stuff, and great control, I have trouble seeing him as a future ace.  That's more of a hunch, though.  He has been fearless on the mound, throwing strikes without fail and mixing up his pitches well.  I do worry somewhat that his strike-throwing will backfire on him at the majors, and that his fly ball tendencies this year will cause him to get hit hard if they continue.  Still, with Davis, Hellickson is the back-end of one of the best 1-2 rotation punches in the minors.

 

#38: Tim Beckham, SS, TB

In the aforemention Ben Badler chat, Badler said that more and more scouts were questioning Beckham's ability to stay at shortstop.  Combine that with an extremely raw bat, and most of Beckham's value currently comes from projection.  He strikes out too much, doesn't walk enough, has almost no power, and isn't making great reads on the basepaths.  From a strictly statistical perspective, there is very little to like about Beckham right now.

 

#39: Chris Carter, DH, OAK

Remember that "Offense first" section I mentioned a while ago?  Among that group, Carter undoubtedly has the worst glove.  I can't see him as anything but a DH at this point, but his bat is incredible.  Finally working to cut down on his strikeouts, Carter has had one of his most impressive seasons yet.  He has tons and tons of plate discipline to go along with his plus to plus-plus power, and the drop in strikeouts has actually allowed him to sustain an average above .300.  There are still holes in Carter's swing (after all, he still strikes out nearly once a game), but it's hard not to be impressed with his offensive ceiling.

 

#40: Josh Reddick, OF, BOS

Another guy with good power and lots of strikeouts, Reddick's overall offensive profile is well-rounded.  He profiles as more of a .280 hitter, but with 20-25 home runs annually, and above average speed.  The glove should play very well anywhere in the outfield, though he is known more for his arm than his range.  Plate discipline has never been Reddick's strong point, though he has begun to take more walks this year.

 

#41: Neftali Feliz, RHP, TEX

I have always looked at Feliz with skepticism, and his brief time in the majors does not change that.  His durability has always worried me, for the simple reason that (and this is no fault of his own) he has rarely had to face lineups at any level more than one time through.  Whether it's because of Texas limiting his pitch count, or durability issues, the fact remains that Feliz only very rarely pitched through 5 innings.  I have significant concerns about his secondary offerings, as well.  There's a good chance he excels as a bullpen arm, but it's not like was dominant starting at AAA.  I think Texas should have kept him in Frisco this season, and tried to stretch him out a little...  This aggressiveness could very well backfire on them, and typecast Feliz as a setup man or closer for the foreseeable future.

 

#42: Martin Perez, LHP, TEX

I don't think any pitching prospect in baseball excites me the way that Perez does. This season, while the youngest pitcher in the low-A Sally League, Perez has not only excelled, but he's done so while adding a plus changeup to his repertoire. We now have a guy with three plus pitches (one of which is one of the best curveballs in the minors), and good control of all of them. And again, he's only 18! What's not to love here? I think what he's done this year can really equate to what Feliz did last year.  In fact, I think Perez has an arguably higher ceiling the Feliz, even if Feliz has the higher floor (because he's pitched at higher levels).

 

#43: Casey Kelly, RHP, BOS

I could list Kelly as a SS, too, sure, but would it really matter?  There is likely nobody left in baseball (outside of Kelly) who thinks that Kelly's future is at short.  He's a pitcher, and a very good one, at that.  In order to sign Kelly, though, the Red Sox had to agree to give him a chance at shortstop...  Which meant moving him to the position after the Futures Game last month.  This actually works out nicely for Boston- Kelly's arm gets to stay fresh, and hey, if he lights the world on fire offensively, they've got a nice problem on their hands.  As a pitcher, the 19 year old was extremely good between low-A and high-A, and could force the Red Sox to test him at AA if he comes out of the gate hot in 2010.

 

#44: Matt LaPorta, 1B/OF, CLE

I haven't soured on LaPorta's talent as much as I've realized how good one has to be offensively to offset a lack of defensive skills.  LaPorta could be valuable under the right circumstances, but he's already 25, and I have trouble seeing him max out as anything more than a .280/25 homer guy.  I'd compare his overall skillset to Ryan Garko's, maybe with slightly more power.

 

#45: Zach McAllister, RHP, NYY

One of my favorite pitchers in the minors, McAllister has built on what was a breakout 2008 by continuing to show advanced control and good strikeout numbers.  He did go down in July with what is being called a "tired arm", and that's something we should keep an eye on.  However, McAllister does a lot of things well and very few things not-so-well.  Surprisingly, his ground ball inducement dropped sharply this year, before picking back up in July and August.

 

#46: Derek Norris, C, WAS

Although he's gotten a lot of attention this year, Norris really has come on quickly.  He's shown impressive power in the Sally League, to go along with advanced plate discipline.  There's also a very good chance that Norris stays behind the plate...  All-around, he's one of the more underrated catching prospects out there, and he could really break out next year into the Top 20.

 

#47: Brett Wallace, 3B, OAK

There are some questions as to whether or not Wallace can remain at third base, but a more pressing concern is where his power has gone.  Despite spending about 70% of his season in one of the most hitter-friendly leagues in baseball, Wallace has a .418 SLG this season.  Even worse, his plate discipline has slipped dramatically since being promoted to AAA.  Strikeouts have always been a concern for Wallace, but now, he's stopped walking as well.  There are a lot of questions for him to answer as this season comes to a close, although he could still open 2010 in Oakland with a good Spring Training.

 

#48: Aaron Cunningham, OF, OAK

As I've said in the past, Cunningham does a lot of things well, but nothing exceptionally well.  He can hit for average, has some power, can take a walk, and has some speed, but he's not going to wow you with any of those skills.  Still, though, a consistently above-average outfielder has value, and I think that the sum of Cunningham's parts are valuable.

 

#49: Casey Crosby, LHP, DET

Sure, Crosby is 21 years old, at low-A, and has an injury history (elbow reconstruction).  However, he's also a lefty with exceptional stuff and crazy good results this season.  The Midwest League is good to pitchers, but Crosby has been more than just good.  He has a 112/44 K/BB in 96.2 innings, and significant ground ball tendencies.  Every time I look at his stats, I fall in love a little more.  He deserves to be mentioned among the other low-A arms on this list.

 

#50: James Darnell, 3B, SD

Yes, Darnell is slightly old for his league, at 22 and splitting the season between low-A and high-A.  Yes, a third of Darnell's season has been spent in the California League, notorious for making hitters look better than they actually are.  All things considered, though, it's awfully hard to argue with Darnell's success.  He's not merely beating the crap out of the ball; he has shown exceptional contact ability, and a really advanced approach (75 BBs, 76 Ks).  He's a big part of why I think the Padres' 2008 draft was so successful.

 

Quartile Three: From Fifty-One to Seventy-Five

#51: Matt Moore, LHP, TB

The pitchers keep coming with Moore, a 20 year old at low-A with impressive strikeout and hit rates.  He could stand to work on his control (58 BBs in 100.2 innings), but there is reason to believe that he'll be able to refine that as he moves through the Rays' system.  After all, Moore did limit his walks in 2008, when he gave up 19 in 54 innings.  Plus, he has done a good job improving his control as the year has gone on.  He has a very nice ceiling as a potential lefty ace, though he is still far away.

 

#52: Jarrod Parker, RHP, AZ

For those of you wondering where I would slot Parker on this list, here's your answer.  I'm sure I'll take some flak for this ranking, but it's an opportunity for me to gloat about being right last winter, when I said that I was worried about Parker's durability.  There are now significant injury concerns with him, and the stats were not really that impressive to begin with.  He gives up a lot of hits, and while his control and FB/GB ratio looks good, it's not enough to offset the risk and push him into the next tier of pitching prospects.

 

#53: Jason Knapp, RHP, PHI

Knapp's stats in the Sally League aren't sexy, but he doesn't turn 19 for another couple weeks, and put up very flattering strikeout totals.  Here are the issues with him: First off, the control.  He gave up nearly one walk every two innings this season, and that number did not really improve as the year progressed.  Secondly, note my persistent use of the past tense; the Phillies shut Knapp down for the season last month because of shoulder fatigue.

 

#54: Ethan Martin, RHP, LAD

It's easy to forget about Martin, the Dodgers' first round pick last year who is, like Moore, a 20 year old at low-A.  However, Martin's peripheral stats are just as impressive at Moore's, as the righty has racked up an impressive strikeout total, but still needs to refine his control.  The walks are a bigger concern for Martin, as this is his debut pro season, and he has no history of positive control in which to take solace.  However, the stuff is here, and he has as high a ceiling as any pitching prospect out there.

 

#55: Scott Sizemore, 2B, DET

One of my bolder rankings this season, Sizemore has not only solidified himself as Detroit's second baseman of the future, but he's also made a spot for himself as the best second base prospect in all of baseball.  Sure, it's a thin position right now for prospects, but how can you not love a guy who has refined the other parts of his game after already having scarily good plate discipline?  Between AA and AAA, the 24 year old has a .307/.394/.505 line, with 14 homers and 15 steals.  Even better, Sizemore has worked on has defense this year and has reportedly taken big strides there.  I love him as an offensive-minded second baseman, perhaps with vintage Marcus Giles as his ceiling.

 

#56: Michael Taylor, OF, PHI

I think the thing that has kept me from moving Taylor into the next tier of outfield prospects is the fact that he really has put up similar numbers to most of them, but is a year or two older in most cases.  Taylor looks good, but he hasn't impressed at AAA, and is nearly 24.  This might sound hypocritical after my gushing over Sizemore, but Taylor plays a much less exclusive position, and is getting a lot more hype.

 

#57: Josh Vitters, 3B, CHC

I have a feeling that if people want to criticize this list, they'll use this ranking (well, this or Mejia's ranking, which is yet to appear) to do it.  "WHAT?  SCOTT SIZEMORE ABOVE VITTERS?  LOL, KTHX"  Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying, and I'll stick by it.  Vitters has 9 walks in 93 games.  Think about that for a second.  Angel-fuckin'-Villalona (who does not appear on this list) has 9 walks in 74 games!  Obviously, Vitters has quite a few more positives than Villalona does, or else he wouldn't appear on the list, either.  But unless Vitters adds ANY plate discipline to his plus-plus raw power, I can't see him having success at higher levels.

 

#58: Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B, CLE

Chisenhall has shot up a lot of peoples' radars this year, and rightfully so.  Still just 20 years old, he's demonstrated plus power, and good contact abilities, while moving from shortstop to third base.  He should be able to stick at third.  His worst attribute is probably his mediocre plate discipline, as Chisenhall has only a .345 OBP on the season.  I'm excited to see what he can do now that he's at AA Akron.

 

#59: Jennry Mejia, RHP, NYM

I'm a little more hesitant to jump on the Mejia bandwagon that most people.  He's been very good, sure, but we're still looking at an extremely small sample size, and Mejia is now injured.  It's a little troubling, even though I love his ground ball rate.  I don't really understand why people salivate over Mejia's time at AA.  They keep saying things like, "Look, he's further along than (prospect X)!  He's at AA!"  Great, but he only made 4 starts there, he wasn't great there, and he's now on the disabled list.  His time at AA is irrelevant; Mejia is still a high-risk, high-reward pitcher.

 

#60: Jon Niese, LHP, NYM

As high-percentage bets go, Niese is a great one.  The lefty has been very good at AAA since first being tested there last season.  He's seen some time in New York already, and is a great bet to at least succeed as a back-end rotation type.  Obviously, Niese doesn't have a real high ceiling, but he's certainly close to reaching his.

 

#61: Brad Lincoln, LHP, PIT

He may no longer be considered a future ace, but Lincoln still is a very good prospect, due mostly to his suburb control.   Now at AAA, Lincoln has given up only 44 walks in 219 innings over the past two seasons.  He gives up a lot of hits, which is a concern, but it hasn't really hurt him much so far.  Lincoln does a decent job of getting strikeouts, too...  It should be interesting to see if the Pirates will start him with the team next spring.

 

#62: Lance Lynn, RHP, STL

Often overlooked and underrated, Lynn is an imposing 6'5", 250, with excellent stats this season at AA.  He's 22 years old, and the Cardinals challenged him the season by pushing him past high-A after just 15 innings there.  Lynn has responded well, walking only 38 in 119.1 innings overall this year.  All of his other peripheral stats are good-but-not-great, which keeps him from being in an upper tier of pitchers.  However, his physical frame combined with the plus control, and good complementary stats, all lead to him being a top pitching prospect.

 

#63: Lars Anderson, 1B, BOS

I really want to like Lars, being a Boston fan and all.  For the first half of this season, we could at least make excuses for the guy, but at this point, it's tough to spin his numbers positively.  He has a .696 OPS this year, with just 8 home runs and 100 strikeouts in 98 games.  The one positive to his line is his walks (51), but without power or contact ability, it's a fairly empty positive.  Lars is still just 21, though, and maybe the promotion to AA was a little aggressive.  I'm sure that if he were in high-A right now, he'd put numbers that would prompt most people to bump him into the top 20.

 

#64: Brett Lawrie, 2B, MIL

A 19 year old converted catcher, Lawrie has spent this season at second base, and is one of the better prospects in the game at that position.  He has flashed plus power there, to go along with some speed and an advanced hitting approach.  Lawrie's lack of contact ability worries me, though, and brings to mind what Moustakas accomplished at the Midwest League just one season ago.  I hope that Lawrie has just been unlucky, and his batting average begins to rise.

 

#65: Jose Tabata, OF, PIT

This ranking probably doesn't let on exactly how much I like Tabata.  I'm still cautious with him, as anybody should be, but Tabata has completely switched up his approach this year.  He's walking at about the same rate as last year, but has cut his strikeouts in half (!), and has managed to sustain a batting average over .300 for most of the season.  While there has been a distinct lack of power to Tabata's line, that's okay; this is the first real success that Tabata has enjoyed for a couple years now, and he's at AAA now.  That's right: Jose Tabata, prospect for as long as I can remember, is finally going to be a major leaguer shortly.

 

#66: Brandon Erbe, RHP, BAL

Like Tabata, it seems as if Erbe has been around forever.  The 21 year old is now at AA, and seems to be doing a fairly good job there.  Control is still a minor issue for him, but it's nothing he can't overcome...  More worrisome are the homer totals (combined with his fly ball tendencies).  Erbe has given up 28 home runs in 212 innings over the past two seasons.  He's cut down on the rate some this season, but it's still a scary total.

 

#67: Josh Donaldson, C, OAK

When Donaldson was traded from the Cubs to the Athletics last summer, he was touted as Oakland's catcher for the future.  Upon his arrival in the system, he delivered, putting up an OPS well over .900 (granted, as a 22 year old in the CAL League).  This season, Donaldson has continued his transformation into a mature hitter at AA.  While he is still not really young for his league, the catcher has a BB/K ratio of just under 1.  While he hasn't shown much power so far this year, the really impressive thing is just how much Donaldson has transformed his approach.  Again, in 2008, he had a 70 strikeouts and 34 walks.  This season?  His 73 strikeouts are accompanied by an impressive 70 walks.  Defensively, Donaldson is still learning, but he has a good arm, and enough athleticism to believe that he can stick behind the plate.

 

#68: Tyler Flowers, C, CWS

Comparing Donaldson to Flowers, however, is not easy.  The latter is a year younger, has better offensive statistics, is at a higher level, but... may not stick behind the plate.  There have always been questions about his arm, as well as his receiving, and when in Atlanta, the predominant idea was that he'd end up at first base.  In Chicago, he essentially has one more season to improve his defense before the team has to make a decision on him; that's when current catcher A.J. Pierzynski's contract ends.

 

#69: Michael Bowden, RHP, BOS

I have tried to explain to Red Sox fans for the past year or so now that we should really temper our excitement about Bowden.  It's not that he's not a good prospect (he is), but he has never had great stuff, and profiles more as a back of the rotation guy.  That's not news to most people here, but Bowden has still had a lot of success at AAA this season.  His control has slipped this year, but he still exhibits a lot of skill in that area.  His flyball tendencies worry me, as does the sudden increase in home runs.

 

#70: Michael Montgomery, LHP, KC

This is the kind of pitcher that I really love.  Montgomery is a lefty who is young for his level (20 years old), who is being pushed aggressively (now at high-A), who is getting extreme ground ball rates (2.74 GB/FB last year, 1.63 this year), and who is showing off plus stuff (101 Ks in 116.2 innings, .210 BAA).  What's not to love?  He still needs to work on his control, but he's got plenty of time to do that.  Right now, Montgomery's ceiling is that of a lefty ace.

 

#71: Bradley Holt, RHP, NYM

Holt worries me a little bit.  He has looked very good since being drafted last season, but upon promotion to AA this year, Holt has taken huge, drastic steps backward.  His control has slipped dramatically, his K's have slipped dramatically, his hits have climbed dramatically, and he's given up dramatically more fly balls.  Notice a trend here?  We're dealing with a small sample size- it's only 10 starts, after all- but Holt needs to make adjustments, and he needs to do it soon.

 

#72: Kasey Kiker, LHP, TEX

I've been looking at Kiker's stats for about a week now.  Every time I look, I'm impressed, but I tell myself, "Well, he's still a 21 year old at low-A."  And then it hits me: Kiker is at AA, and has been there all season.  The most impressive part of his stat line is that, despite the aggressive promotion and adjustments he's had to make, Kiker has improved in just about every way possible this year.  Maybe last season's struggles were just a result of the CAL League, I don't know, but he's been putting teams away with regularity at the neutral Texas League.  I'd like to see how he handles AAA later this season, though it's more likely that he receives the promotion next year.

 

#73: Austin Jackson, OF, NYY

I've argued this plenty of times before.  If you want to see my Jackson argument, look for three paragraph rant I had about him in last November's list (with pretty charts included!).  He's good, not great, and most of his value prior to this season came from exactly three good months.  Literally all of the rest of Jackson's career has been mediocre.  He has been overhyped, has an empty batting average, poor strike-zone judgment, and really very little power to speak of.  If he ever gets a starting job, I would bet heavily on him disappointing with it.

 

#74: Mike Moustakas, 3B, KC

Yes, Moustakas is just 20 years old in high-A, but the truth is that he really has not made a single improvement to his shortcomings from last season's stats.  He still has plus power, fine, but the strikeout and walk rates have not improved at all, and his ability to make contact has gotten worse.  In fact, over the course of this season, Moustakas has actually gotten worse in every month.  I want to see some sort of improvement, specifically with respect to his plate discipline, before ranking him any higher.

 

#75: Andrew Cashner, RHP, CHC

Cubs fans will likely have a problem with this ranking, and it is admittedly conservative.  However, while Cashner has done a good job eradicating his control problems from 2008, he still has major hiccups every couple starts.  There is very little consistency here, and he's really had success in a small sample size.  I like the ground ball tendencies, but he needs to show more consistent control.  There is still a very high ceiling if Cashner can figure it out...  He is only 22 years old at AA right now, so there is time.

 

Quartile Three: From Seventy-Six to One Hundred

#76: Ryan Westmoreland, OF, BOS

It's hard to believe, but it wasn't until very late in this list's creation process that I decided to add Westmoreland.  I am as excited about him as any Boston fan, and he is, after all, my single favorite prospect in the game.  That being said, though, I've tried my best to be realistic with him.  He's still raw, still at short-season Lowell, and still hasn't played a game in the field.  Also, it should be noted that he was not highly ranked (generally right around #100) in last year's draft class.  Westmoreland is, however, a true 5-tool talent, with an advanced approach at the plate, and he's enjoyed immediate success in the New York-Penn League.  All the reports point to him being a legitimate top prospect.

 

#77: Carlos Triunfel, SS, SEA

Triunfel hasn't played this season, save for two games back in April before breaking his tibia.  Before that, he was considered a very good, but very raw, shortstop prospect.  I've never really been high on him, because his production has never really warranted it.  The broken tibia only adds more questions.  Will he be able to run as well upon returning?  Will he be able to stick at shortstop, something that was in question even before the injury?  I've moved him way down on the list because of this uncertainty, although the high ceiling stopped me from removing him completely.

 

#78: Nick Barnese, RHP, TB

Chalk up another Top 100 pitching prospect for Tampa Bay.  Barnese has enjoyed success whenever he's pitched since coming into the league, but he still hasn't had a season over 80 innings, and it's doubtful that this season will be his first.  I'm hesitant to move him higher before seeing how he can handle a full year, but the early returns have been impressive.  I'm curious to see whether the Rays move him up to high-A in 2010, or leave him to spend a full season at low-A.

 

#79: Tim Melville, RHP, KC

I think an interesting argument could be had regarding who the better prospect is between Barnese and Melville.  While Barnese clearly has an early performance edge, Melville has been much more highly regarded since being drafted last season.  Melville's line is not overly impressive, but the scouting reports are glowing, and his stats are still good enough to keep him in elite pitching prospect conversations.

 

#80: Ike Davis, 1B, NYM

Here's another guy for whom it took me a long time to add to the list.  In Davis' case, it was his July that really pushed him into top prospect consideration.  That month was his first full one at AA, after spending the first half of the season at high-A.  The Mets were right to challenge the 22 year old, as he has since gone .296/.377/.525 at Binghamton.  Davis is still clearly in the second tier of last year's elite draft class of first base prospects, but his stock is rising quickly now.

 

#81: Thomas Neal, OF, SF

Neal is one of those players who, whenever I've been tinkering with the list, I move down a few more spots.  He started in the 60 range, but every time I look at him, I'm less impressed.  He's a 21 year old outfielder, who has mashed in the CAL League, who has been a little lucky, and who in past seasons has never been more than a .800 OPS type.  I tend to believe that if he were even in the FSL or Carolina League, things would be a lot different, and more people would have a legitimately tough time choosing between him and the next guy on this list.

 

#82: Christopher Marrero, 1B, WAS

Marrero has been extremely highly touted since being drafted in the first round in 2006.  He was probably overrated after his stellar 2007, and probably underrated after his subpar 2008.  Now, I think a lot of people have just forgotten about him, but he has repeated the Carolina League this year, with great success.  I still have some concerns about his strike zone judgment, but Marrero's power has never left him, and I think he could one day be valuable as a .270/20 homer guy.  Maybe something like the terminally underrated Josh Willingham?

 

#83: Logan Forsythe, 3B, SD

I was originally very high on Forsythe (I had him in the 50 range, around Neal), but concerns about his Texas League slippage have caused me to temper that enthusiasm.  He's 22 years old, and much of his success came from the CAL League.  However, and this is important to remember, Forsythe has exhibited some of the best plate discipline in any professional baseball league this year.  His 61/48 BB/K ratio at high-A is just incredible, and while it's slipped since his promotion to AA, this is the type of player that Forsythe is.  He doesn't have much power, but a dual-.400 OPS is well within reach.

 

#84: Chris Withrow, RHP, LAD

On the surface, Withrow's 2009 has been unimpressive.  With a 4.85 ERA, and 50 walks in 94.2 innings, there is plenty of cause for alarm.  However, Withrow has also racked up 112 strikeouts this year, and really limited his hits.  Most impressive may have been the lack of home runs he's given up, as prior to his AA debut (in which he gave up 2), Withrow had only given up 3 all year.  He may never be successful without better control, but he is currently being tested at AA, and it should be interesting to see how he adjusts.

 

#85: Julio Borbon, OF, TEX

Borbon has teased us so far this season.  After exhibiting surprisingly good plate discipline last fall in the AFL, he did indeed improve both his strikeout and walk rates this season.  However, it came at the cost of his power, as the 41 extra-base hits he had last year have been cut in half, and his SLG has dropped to .386.  Now in Texas, Borbon has exhibited that his future is still that of a very good leadoff man, but he'll need to get his power back at some point.  As a speedy outfielder with good ability to hit for average and take a walk, though, he has value.

 

#86: Esmil Rogers, RHP, COL

Nearly 24 years old, Rogers is a very interesting prospect.  He was good last year at the CAL League, but his real breakout has occured this season in AA Tulsa.  Rogers flashed plus command and control, with a 83/19 K/BB over 94.1 innings.  Based on his time with Tulsa alone, he would be one of the best pitching prospects in the game (if a little old for his level).  However, Rogers has completely imploded since being promoted to AAA Colorado Springs.  It's an extreme hitters league, fine, but Rogers H/9 has nearly doubled, while his BB/9 has nearly tripled.  It all makes me wonder if the 19 starts he had at AA were flukish, because Rogers has pitched effectively in extreme hitters leagues before (the aforemented CAL League).  Let's see how he pitches in 2010 before passing a judgment on him.

 

#87: Josh Lindblom, RHP, LAD

Lindblom has been very successful since he was drafted last year.  Rising quickly through the Dodgers' system (he's now at AAA), Lindblom has a 103/28 K/BB in 108 professional innings.  There are very few people questioning his production, but there are questions as to what the future holds for him.  Many scouts thought that he was destined for relief before the draft, and he's since been moved to the bullpen at AAA Albuquerque.  Regardless of where he pitches, Lindblom should be successful, and he has a high floor.  However, the lack of a high ceiling as a starter makes him slightly less appealing than other pitching prospects.

 

#88: Trevor Reckling, LHP, LAA

On the surface, one could say that Reckling has been very good in 2009.  He's a lefty with good ground ball tendencies, a passable strikeout rate, and a sparkling ERA.  Digging deeper, though, it's easy to feel uneasy about him.  The strikeout rate is a lot more mediocre when you take away his three starts at high-A, and Reckling has walked 61 in 114 innings.  He is still just 20 years old, however, and already at AA.  There is plenty of time for him to refine his control.  Until he does so, he is distinctly on the back end of this list.

 

#89: Jemile Weeks, 2B, OAK

The small sample size worries me a bit, but it doesn't change the fact that Weeks has shown very advanced plate discipline since being drafted 12th overall last year.  His career BB/K is now 41/54, and Weeks has shown surprising power (though much of it came as a 22 year old at CAL).  I suppose I could equate him with Forsythe at this point, but the latter was simply more impressive for a longer period of time this year.

 

#90: Chris Parmelee, 1B/OF, MIN

Here's a name I think few people probably expected.  I'm using Davis and Marrero as comparables for Parmelee, one of my favorite sleepers in the game.  He has always had both plus plate discipline and plus power, with contact ability coming into question.  I'll chalk that up to being unlucky, as he's had some pretty wild BA fluctuations throughout his career.  It might seem like he's been around forever now, but, like Marrero, Parmelee is still just 21 years old at high-A.  I think he's a big breakout candidate for AA next season.

 

#91: Wilmer Flores, SS, NYM

I don't know why it surprised me, but when the Mets started Flores (17 years old until last week) at full-season low-A, I was shocked.  The Mets have always been boneheaded about these sort of prospect promotions, though, and Flores predictably has struggled.  I have to wonder how good he would be if he were at short-season A, and part of me thinks he'd be the NYPL's best prospect.  The approach at the plate (18 walks in 100 games) scares me, but he has sky-high potential that he should show if the Mets ever decide to assign him to an age-appropriate league.

 

#92: Julio Teheran, RHP, ATL

The way the Teheran has been hyped since signing with the Braves two years ago, you'd think the kid was at AAA with a 0.00 ERA.  Instead, he just made his 14th start last week, and his first at the low-A South Atlantic League.  I'm not sure that his stats really mean anything at this point, but they have been admittedly impressive (64/12 K/BB in 63.2 innings) thus far.  He is still just 18 years old, and is a huge, huge breakout candidate if the Braves decide to start him at full-season ball in 2010 (which they most likely will).

 

#93: Angel Salome, C, MIL

After all but lighting the world on first offensively last season, Salome has taken a major step back this year.  His plate discipline (which wasn't great to begin with) has all but abandoned him, and he hasn't shown any power in the hitter-friendly PCL.  You could chalk it up to Salome trying to focus on catching, something that he needed to really progress with this year.  I honestly have know idea if his catching skills have gotten any better, but they'll have to or be traded, because he will not fit at another position for Milwaukee.

 

#94: Reid Brignac, SS, TB

Brignac has spent the last two seasons at AAA Durham, and I can't help but wonder why the Rays haven't tested him at the major league level.  Yes, he was underwhelming in 2008, but he still showed flashes of potential last year, and has been excellent once again this year.  He's more of a good-but-not-great type of player, as I don't really ever see him having anything more than average power and plate discipline, but he could still be a competent MLB starting SS.

 

#95: Aaron Hicks, OF, MIN

This ranking probably doesn't really let on exactly how much I like Hicks.  He's another one of my favorite prospects in the game.  One of my favorite prospect tidbits is this: Of all the 700+ position players featured in this year's Minor League Analyst, only 2 players were listed as having plus tools across the board.  The first was Colby Rasmus; I'll assume that you can guess at this point who the second player is.

 

#96: Danny Duffy, RHP, KC

It's easy to forget about Duffy.  The 21 year old pitched a very quiet, but very effective, season at high-A this year.  While he hasn't been quite as effective as he was at low-A in 2008, Duffy has still combined above average control with strikeouts and a good opposing batting average.  He's on track to start 2010 at AA, and could move quickly up this list with a good year there.

 

#97: Tyson Gillies, OF, SEA

Loyal readers will remember my persistent comparison of Julio Borbon and Jacoby Ellsbury (sans walks).  Well, in Gillies, we have a player that, at least from a statistical perspective, compares even more closely.  Gillies walks plenty, and has plus contact and speed to go along with it.  Hell, he's even added some power this season, though a lot of that probably has to do with the hitting environment at High Desert.  Still, though, Gillies is a good bet to have dual-.400 percentages, to go along with good speed and defense.  He could really shoot up into the top half of the list if he follows up with a similar year at AA.

 

#98: Eric Hosmer, 1B, KC

I didn't feel comfortable dropping Hosmer down this far, but I also feel completely comfortable including him in the list at all.  He's been very, very disappointing this year, showing very little success outside of advanced plate discipline, though he came on stronger as the season went on.  The Royals inexplicably challenged him with a promotion last month, and he has predictably struggled mightily.  I want to see him repeat high-A in 2010, and maybe get some statistical production behind him.

 

#99: Wilmer Font, RHP, TEX

Another teenage pitcher at low-A, Font had a quiet 2009.  He delivered on the promise of plus stuff, with 84 strikeouts in 81 innings, but his control is a bit raw (43 walks).  Font may be Texas' next big young pitching prospect, to follow Feliz and Perez.  He's been under the radar in the organization for a year or two now, but he could break out in a big way in 2010.  (I should note that this spot was essentially split between Font and Blake Beavan.)

 

#100: Ben Revere, OF, MIN

Revere has a fairly crazy skill set.  He has some of the best strikeout avoidance skills that I've ever seen, and he really capitalizes on his high-contact approach by hitting for average.  There is extremely little power in Revere's game, so little that I would doubt he ever sees double digit home run totals.  He could stand to make better reads on the basepaths, but that's something I imagine he'll progress with as he moves through the Twins' system.

 

Summary of the List

So, there you have it.  There are, I'm sure some names that I missed, and I'm sure that this will spark a lot of discussion.  I'd like to think that I've been fairly open and thorough as to what my goals are with this list, and why I ranked prospects the way I did.  I tried my best to explain how I went through the ranking process, too.

I assume that some people are wondering who the next few "Just Missed" guys were.  There are, in alphabetical order: Blake Beavan, Mike Carp, Hank Conger, Daniel Descalso, Brett DeVall, Dee Gordon, Will Smith, Matthew Sweeney, Arodys Vizcaino, and Michael Ynoa.

Anyway, I've really enjoyed this whole process.  It's taken me about a week and a half now, and while, once again, it is intended for my personal use, I hope you can all enjoy it and take something away from it.  Thanks for reading!

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If anybody is interested in downloading an easier-to-digest version of the list in Excel, I can provide that. Just let me know.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 1:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice List.

I just flipped through real quick to get an overview and will probably post comments on agree/disagree tomarrow after I get up. But real quick looks like a lot of work and appreciated reading these. Some intresting rankings. Looking forward to going over this w/ a fine tooth comb.

Lapota—Not sure why this guy has fallen outta favor on so many lists. Has done nothing but rake everywhere and had only a 42 AB trial so far in the majors.

by cubsfan1 on Aug 11, 2009 1:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice list.

I think Friedrich is too high. And yeah, I’ll criticize the Mejia ranking. Look, you obviously don’t follow the B-Mets closely. You shouldn’t be expected too. But I’ve gone to half of his starts while he was there, and I’m also 95% sure that “injury” was fabricated to cap his innings. He’s at the bare minimum a top 50 prospect, pretty easily. You ranked him way too low.
I actually like the Vitters ranking, as I’ve never really been a fan. But Lars Anderson, for me, has fallen pretty far out of favor. Like, 75-100.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I tend to go batshit crazy over guys who improve at CAL

So there’s that. Yeah, I could see moving him down a bit.

As for Mejia… Okay, I can see why they would fabricate the injury. However, we have no real way to know that for sure, and my points in his writeup still stand. He’s only made 4 starts at AA, wasn’t lights-out there, and got “injured”. There is a risk factor, as with any 19 year old pitcher being aggressively promoted. It’s a conservative ranking, I’ll admit, but I don’t think I could justify moving him any higher.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

But you can justify having Knapp 6 spots higher, despite him playing in the SAL league, being only a year younger, and having decidedly worse stats? Come on. And considering how tough the jump is pitching wise from the FSL to the EL, I think it’s a testament to Mejia’s ability that he did as well as he did in those 4 starts.

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, that's probably fair.

I should mention that the 50-60 range was where I had the most trouble ranking pitchers. There were a bunch of low-A arms that all looked okay, and that all had flaws. I’ll probably bump Mejia up over Knapp (who I wasn’t really high on to begin with) sometime tomorrow. Just don’t expect me to jump him into the top 30 or something ;-)

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To each their own

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw

by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
#94: Reid Brignac, SS, TB

    Brignac has spent the last two seasons at AAA Durham, and I can’t help but wonder why the Rays haven’t tested him at the major league level. Yes, he was underwhelming in 2008, but he still showed flashes of potential last year, and has been excellent once again this year. He’s more of a good-but-not-great type of player, as I don’t really ever see him having anything more than average power and plate discipline, but he could still be a competent MLB starting SS.

To answer your question, because they have SS that’s been a 3.6 win player and a 2B that’s been a 5.6 win player. Basically, they have the luxury of not needing him.

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by Tyler on Aug 11, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Should they have used him as trade bait?

I know they could use a catcher.

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by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they did

but obviously did not get offered the right value for him.

he is constantly underrated again and again. Friedman knows what he’s capable of

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Brignac a lot.

I’d move him up on this list a bit, I think.

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by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should have, could have

I think they will see declining value for him in the trade market, from here on out.

by parish on Aug 11, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, sure. That makes sense.

They could have tested him out when Bartlett forgot how to hit a baseball last month, but that’s true.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For one, I think you have Chris Carter too low. He’s easily the A’s #1 prospect, IMO, and should be as high as in the late teens. He’s having a simply amazing season, and it’s because he’s learned to cut down the Ks.

Second, I wanted to address this:

I will probably never understand the Bumgarner critics. They say his secondary stuff is still subpar. Okay, that complain might have flown when he was breezing through low-A, but Bumgarner’s at AA now, and starting pitchers don’t breeze through this level with just a fastball, especially one that stays down in the mid-90s. I don’t care what you say, his breaking pitches are fooling hitters. He will be fine, and is still the single best pitching prospect in the minors.

Bumgarner has NOT been breezing through AA. His ERA is nice, but his FIP is 3.51, his K rate has slowed to 6.56/9 IP as opposed to 8.51/9 IP in A ball, his BB/9 ratio is up from 1.48 to 2.61 in AA, and his K/BB ratio is down from 5.75 to 2.46. He’s stranding an ungodly high 81.9% of runners, and his BABIP is only .258, which isn’t ridiculously low, but is lower than his BABIP in A+ this year (.305) and A last year (.314). Anyway, in short, he’s not breezing through. He has some legitimate questions to be answered. I can’t see any logic behind putting Bumgarner ahead of Matusz.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Positional value...

I mean, look at the guy I have directly above Carter. I have significant questions about Beckham, and his bat pales in comparison to Carter’s, but he currently plays SS (and even if he has to move off of the position, the defensive value still would make up for any offensive difference).

Carter is literally the only prospect on this list who profiles as a DH. Think about that for a second. Everybody else on this list has a position, and none of the guys above him are glove-only types (meaning that they should be valuable offensive players). Even looking at the first basemen above him, do you think that Carter will have enough of an offensive advantage over Alonso or Blanks to offset the fact that they play a position?

I know that this argument has come up before, and people consistently make the point that the DH doesn’t take anything away defensively, but just the value of having a player who can play a position over somebody who can’t is enough to make a statement. I don’t think Carter is all that low on this list, anyway; #39 is still very good.

I’m sure there will be more questions on BumgarnerLogic™ in the coming days. I’ll do my best to answer them as they come, but it’s 2:30 AM now, and I’m getting tired, and I still have to defend Alcides Escobar to Dave.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually Carter has improved a LOT at 1B this year

He hasn’t been that bad. Last year he was worth a combined -23 runs in the field; this year he’s worth -5. That’s not horrible.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You keep saying that Carter has improved at things

But he’s improving to positions that are still bad. His strikeout rate is still bad. His fielding is still bad. If I were to say that Adam Everett improved his power, that wouldn’t mean much, would it?

Don’t get me wrong- the improvements are good. But there are still questions to be answered… He still has some holes in his swing, and still profiles as a DH defensively.

He’s a very good prospect, and I think #39 is about appropriate for him. I guess I would say that my list has surprised me with how I would actually rank organizational lists. I did not think, going in, that I would ever list Cardenas and Tazawa as the best prospects in their respective organizations.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The part I don’t get…Carter’s Ks are a problem, but Mike Stanton and his 116 Ks are 2nd overall? Freddie Freeman is a very similar player to Carter, except Carter’s put up better numbers by quite a bit. The reason you have Carter so low is defense, and yet Freeman’s defense is about the same, but Freeman is still above Carter? It’s not that I have a problem with Carter at 39, it’s the players you have above him and the reasoning for putting him at 39 that I have issues with. If you have problems with a player’s Ks, Stanton should be lower than he is. If you have a problem with a guy being worth negative runs at 1B, why is Freeman above Carter?

If you didn’t have Freddie Freeman above Chris Carter I would likely lack a sufficient argument, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me that Freddie Freeman is a better prospect than Chris Carter.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For comparison's sake,

he’s only 2 runs worse than Freddie Freeman, an inferior (to Carter) bat who you have 21 spots ahead of Carter.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couple things

First off, minor league defensive stats are notoriously unreliable. Never mind that even a full season is too small a sample size to generally mean anything.

Secondly, scouting reports are generally glowing about Freeman’s defense. From BA’s writeup last year: “His defense is well above average at first base, with some scouts comparing Freeman to Mark Grace but with more power.”

Thirdly, most scouting reports cited Carter’s hands as the primary culprit for poor defense at first… I really doubt that he’s improved his hands enough in a single season to improve by 18 runs in the field. It’s possible, but it’s far more likely that we’re just looking at a small sample size of an already unreliable stat.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should've mentioned...

Carter’s fielding numbers were at three different positions last year; he was -6 in 37 G at 1B, -12 in 44 G at 3B, and -5 in 10 G at RF.

I agree that fielding numbers are “notoriously unreliable”. How, then, do you have a basis for saying Carter can’t play 1B? Even if defensive statistics are unreliable, the fact that the difference between last year and this year is so big has to indicate that Carter has improved defensively at 1B. Perhaps focusing on only one position has helped him?

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scouting reports.

I don’t think I’ve read one that comes off as optimistic that he’ll be anything other than a DH. If you have one, feel free to pass it along.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It seems a fallacy to cite unreliable defensive stats (I agree with this premise, btw) for his 2009 numbers

But take his 2008 numbers as truth.

There is just as much likelihood that his 2008 numbers are off as his 2009 numbers, and his 1B numbers are actually about the same. Being a meh first baseman – and that’s what I think he’ll be – isn’t enough to put him so low on the list, I don’t think.

Seems you penalize his defense more than others, and reward his offense less.

by thejd44 on Aug 11, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

This is what I was trying to say. You put it into better words; thanks thejd44

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, that's fair.

I think I’ll probably make some adjustments to the list in the next day or so, and one of the first things I’ll do will be to move Carter up.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

You Appease The Black Deer…..

by ChalupaCabrera on Aug 11, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Glad that nickname caught on. :P

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A FIP of 3.51 is hardly bad.

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by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not by itself...

The fact that it’s tied to an unsustainable 2.11 ERA and 81.9% strand rate is. His ERA is already much lower than it should be, and his FIP would be even worse if he weren’t stranding so many runners.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FIP

Strand rate is not a component of FIP.

by rwperu34 on Aug 11, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And an unsustainable ERA

affects the FIP not at all.

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its ok i guess

Alcides Escobar above Dominic Brown? i think the Brewers would trade with in a heartbeat.

Alderson 22 spots above Matt Moore? ok

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Escobar more than Brown, too.

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by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you don't understand what makes Escobar valuable?

He plays the most exclusive position in the game, does it exceptionally well, and has at least a passable bat. That’s insanely valuable. Period. Maybe not in a fantasy league, but in real life, the Brewers would never, ever make that trade straight-up, guaranteed. Again, he’s a guy that could go .290, with 30 steals at a good percentage, and plus to plus-plus defense at shortstop. Those types of players are very difficult to find, especially ones that are cost-controlled for six years.

Alderson is a much better bet than Moore, who is still only at low-A. That doesn’t only stem from levels, either; Alderson already has incredibly advanced control, while Moore is still working on his.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alderson is much better than Matt Moore?

Alderson’s stuff has went down; he’s now projected as a #4, not a number two. Moore has been lights out this year, missing a TON of bats. Most lefties with Moore’s stuff don’t show advanced control early on(i.e. Randy Johnson), but Moore has Way more promise than Alderson.

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by RWRays on Aug 11, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know man.

these lefties need to learn control. How can they be succesful without control?? Like that Clayton Kershaw guy and his terrible control! god, he sucks this year! he’s what, 21!?! this isn’t High School anymore guys, learn to control the strike zone. and Matt Moore turned 20 in June, and he’s in A-ball. I don’t think these guys will ever learn.

 Where are the old school guys like maddux who get results with great command and control of the strike zone??? I’d much rather have future #4 starters with great control than the Kershaws and Kazmirs and Matt Moores and Randy Johnson’s.

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Maddux in there?

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said

better bet, not that Alderson was better than Moore. Alderson has a higher floor while Moore the higher the ceiling. Some people prefer “safer” prospects.

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by gatling on Aug 11, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you rank someone 22 spots higher than another

it means you think they are “better”.

what do people think Moore’s floor is?

I’m curious

I struggle to see how people are spinning the facts to somehow manage to keep Moore out of the top 25.

my ranking at 14 may have been aggressive, but I don’t see how he isn’t a consensus top 30

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Moore quite a bit

All I was doing was pointing out that RWRays misquoted the OP. Nowhere did the OP say that Alderson had more promise than Moore, RWRays misquoted and responded to it, not what was actually said.

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by gatling on Aug 11, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moore's floor is probably flaming out in AA because of Steve Blass disease

But his ceiling is about as high as anyone’s, and realistically, if he never improves from what he is right now and doesn’t get hurt, he’ll still be a lights-out loogy. Lefties with two plus to plus-plus pitches don’t grow on trees.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 11, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, maybe you don't get what prospecting is.

My list was not made to say “LET’S GET THE 100 HIGHEST CEILINGS IN BASEBALL”

There are risks to these players. Alderson has many, many fewer risks than Moore. I don’t have some sort of bias against Moore, but your list (and your comments here) seem to favor putting every dominant low-A player in a top spot. That’s not how it works, and I’d much rather take guys who will at least be something in the majors than someone who has multiple risks at low-A.

Now, forget about the actual ranking numbers for a second. Just look at the list and take the guys who are low-A pitchers (which is a much more relevant list than where a guy is in a Top 100).

I have, in order, Jordan Lyles, Martin Perez, Casey Crosby, and Moore. I don’t think that Moore is better than Lyles or Perez, and for me, he’s probably about equal with Crosby. If you look at Moore in the context of similar pitchers, it makes sense. Maybe I was uniformly too harsh on low-A pitchers, but I don’t think that I was unfair to Moore.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are these "multiple risks" you speak of?

I’m waiting to hear something other than “look at all those walks he issued in april and may” ….

I see what you are saying in your example. but I don’t believe that’s what prospecting is. I don’t rank players based on their level. It is a factor, of course, but just because a guy is in AA, does not mean he is a “better prospect” than a guy who is in Single A. take a look at Martin Perez. he is a AA pitcher now. does this mean your list is now irrelevant? in one phone call, Martin Perez is now “on Alderson’s level” . when I look at prospects, I try not to be so near-sighted.

and yes, i think i “get what prospecting is”. if minor league players were wiped with clean slates tomorrow, all contracts abolished, and a draft held, do you honestly believe Alderson goes before Matt Moore or Martin Perez?

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Level should probably play a factor

At least to the extent that the closer they are to the majors, the less chance there is of flameout or pre-majors injury.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 12, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

“I don’t rank players based on their level. It is a factor, of course, but just because a guy is in AA, does not mean he is a "better prospect" than a guy who is in Single A.”

by daveh33 on Aug 12, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have something called a job.

I am very sorry that I didn’t respond to your post in 14 hours.

Get the **** over yourself.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, yes, yes I do.

It has nothing to do with levels. Just because Martin Perez is now at AA does not automatically make him a better prospect. It has more to do with the fact that Alderson has already performed and shown that he can perform at AA, while ALSO having the skillset that can succeed at the major league level (good control, good endurance, good home run rates). He is a safer bet than Moore or Perez because of these reasons.

I also don’t completely buy the “#4 starter” tagline that people have thrown on Alderson. I know I sort of fueled it by saying that he looked like a really good back-end SP, but I was just commenting on his most likely outcome. He still has a ceiling of a very good mid-rotation pitcher… Like I said, his best case scenario, stat-wise, looks a lot like Kevin Slowey.

After all, this was a guy who, a year ago, people were putting in their top 20s. What’s changed? We already knew he was a finesse pitcher with the potential for plus-plus control. He has good enough stuff to keep his homers down and record respectable strikeout rates. We already knew these things. The only thing that’s changed is that he’s had a successful season at AA. When did that become a bad thing?

*However, you could make an argument based on all the scouting reports and quotes from Ranger officials that his stock should rise because of the promotion, because they are so convinced that he can handle AA as a fuckin’ 19 year old. The last guy I remember that was promoted that confidently and aggressively was Felix Hernandez.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are reports that Alderson's "stuff" is significantly worse this year

In the writeup that Law did after the trade, he said that scouts have Alderson down about 3 to 5 MPH on his fastball and his curve is noticeably less sharp than it had been last year and in HS. A high 80s fastball, average-or-worse curveball, a show-me change, and K/9 in the 5~6 range does sound a lot like 4th/5th starter material, even with good command.

I’d tend to agree with you normally if a highly touted guy slipped a bit in stats if the scouting reports remain positive, but there is scouting evidence to suggest that Alderson is not the same pitcher he was thought to be a year ago.

by jibs on Aug 12, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villalona

The question i have with the Villalona ommision is what’s exactly changed since your last list? He’s pretty much the same as he was going into the year, great potential, very young ARL, so-so performances, terrible K/BB. And as you mention, his BB rates are horrible, but so are Vitters (who’s quite deep on your list) and he’s generally been 2 years older than Villalona at the levels they’ve been playing. Also, something i wonder is how high he’d have on your list if he’d have got injured a month earlier when he was sporting an OPS of 800+.

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by GiantFan on Aug 11, 2009 3:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you're overstating the similarities.

I ranked Villalona last year with the hopes that he would show some improvement this season with his K/BB. It;‘s actually gotten slightly worse, and his power has fallen off the map (in the fuckin’ CAL League, to boot). He’s young ARL, but all that means when a guy is struggling is that the organization is mishandling him. And he only has “great potential” if he can figure out how to walk.

Vitters has, at the very least, demonstrated very good contact abilities, doesn’t strike out nearly as much, and has similar raw power.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're overstating the fact that he plays in the cal league

I’m not defending Villalona, just saying that SJ is a ridiculous pitchers park and that should be taken in to account(more for Neal).

by superk1ng on Aug 11, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

You need to take into account how severely San Jose’s park penalizes Giants hitting prospects. Jonathan Mayo, of MiLB.com wrote about this a couple of years ago, about how the background there (according to Giants prospects) makes it hard to see the ball, resulting in the highest strikeout rate in the minors at San Jose. His numbers are better on the road.

Also, you need to account for the fact that Villalona is only 18 years old this season, in a league of pitchers average age of 23 (if I recall right). Plus, Vitters is one year old and yet he started the season at a lower level, only recently getting bumped to advanced A, which is the level Villalona played at the whole season, and Vitters is hitting much worse than Villalona has in Advanced A, despite his better hitting peripherals.

Given that Villalona went out with an injury, and was affected by it previously, one has to wonder if he has been bothered by an injury since July began, but he played with it because he hasn’t had to deal with an injury before. It’s true, I wonder how you would feel about him if he were still hitting over .800 OPS with 7 HR in 183 AB.

However, it’s easy to nitpick when we know our farm’s prospects better than you would. I think overall your 100 list is pretty good (of course, I am biased in that a lot of the players you named up top are on my two keeper leagues I’m in, though unfortunately, one league is defunct; I still keep track of my prospects there….). Great job, thanks for posting.

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by obsessivegiantscompulsive on Aug 11, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His K rate isn't really

At home, his K rate is 24.5% of his plate appearances. On the road, it’s 22.7. On the other hand, he walks somewhat less on the road (2.5% vs. 3.4%) so there doesn’t really seem to be evidence that it makes much of a difference at all. In terms of overall production, Villalona does a touch better on the road (.725 OPS vs. .680 at home, though his BABIP is a little higher on the road), but not enough of a difference to assume that his park is a huge factor.

You are right that Vitters is a year older and spent most of this year at a level below Villalona, but that doesn’t explain away Villalona’s mediocre strikeout numbers, horrific walk numbers, and pretty ordinary power numbers. You’re right that he’s still a prospect, and that his upside remains considerable, but I think RSF is right in keeping him off the top-100 list right now

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, it would have been nice to see some improvement this year, although it was only a few months, and with regards to the K-rate at least, the park’s not favourable. I wouldn’t say his power “fell off the map” but he did hit less doubles. Also, his ISO was fine for the first two months, so i’m not sure what happened the last month.

They aren’t particularly similar, so i wasn’t comparing them as prospects, and i can understand people being down on him. I just don’t see how you can drop him that far, given that he’s essentially the same as before the season save for a couple of months of similar stats.

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by GiantFan on Aug 11, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not really a prospects guy

but I think Austin Jackson right now should be ranked higher then Lars. I mean he is playing better ball at a higher level. I do understand the critics. He does strike out a ton. but he has been hitting 300 all season and playing some good D in center. Lars is having a bad year, and should be rank like such

by yankeechaser on Aug 11, 2009 3:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re:

Austin Jackson really isn’t that good. It’s not that he’s bad; he’s certainly much better than I’ll ever be, and he’ll have a major league career, and he might even start for the Yankees for a bit. In other words, he’s like a Melky Cabrera or a Brett Gardner, who probably should be 4th OFs but might get a shot to start, and even do pretty well while they’re there.

Jackson is fast and a good defensive player, but his basic problem is that he strikes out a lot and doesn’t hit for power. (He’s hitting for similar power as Melky did in the last three years, and much less power than Melky has had this year, but striking out at twice the rate, despite being in AAA rather than the majors) Continuing to bat .300 with those characteristics is extremely unlikely – if he doesn’t substantially reduce his strikeouts, he probably won’t even bat .270 for long periods of time, making him a 4th or even a 5th OF. If he does bring his strikeouts down to his 2007-2008 levels, then he has an outside-outside chance of being a Jacoby Ellsbury-type player, with somewhat less speed. Lars Anderson is having an off-year, but is a dramatically better player

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Jackson’s swing is the problem I think. Its pretty long. I still like him a lot, but its hard to rank him above guys with considerably harder ceilings. He’s tough to find a spot for.

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Nathan Eovaldi

How in the world is he not on this list. 19 year old Dominating A ball with great stuff??? He could be in AA right now if the Dodgers decided to promote him.

by matthewmafa on Aug 11, 2009 5:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol wat

if by dominating you mean doing well but not even close to dominating…then yeah.

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by doublestix on Aug 11, 2009 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In his last 60 innings

he has an ERA of less then 2.00

by matthewmafa on Aug 11, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree that he has shown some positive things

But his K rate hasn’t been that impressive except for a 3 game stretch in July, and it’s unreasonable to expect that he’ll carry a 1% HR/FB ratio. He’s a nice prospect to keep tabs on, but I really doubt you’re going to find him on very many top 100 lists this coming offseason.

by jibs on Aug 11, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am curious

why you say that Tim Beckham “has almost no power”. In 380 ABs in the Sally League, he has hit 26 doubles and 5 home runs. Do you mean no power in absolute terms or for a shortstop?

For comparison sake, here are 3 other shortstops who played pro ball at age 19.
Jeter: Sally League: 515 ABs, 14 Doubles, 5 Home Runs
Rollins: FSL: 495 ABs, 18 Doubles, 6 Home Runs
H. Ramirez: SAL: 422 ABs, 24 Doubles, 8 Home Runs

Of course, if he cannot stay at SS, the power numbers might be disturbing (although they seem ok for 2B). But it seems to me that hitting doubles suggests decent power at least.

by bobr on Aug 11, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

it does, and Beckham is still just 19.

i actually under-rated him on my own list as well. he should’ve been 12-15, instead of 18

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Escobar vs Beckham

Maybe we need a prospect smack down on this one. I personally think Escobar has enough of a ceiling that being two years closer to a starting gig and much less likely to bust makes Escobar the better prospect.

by rwperu34 on Aug 11, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beckham v. Lawrie

I would prefer a Prospect Smackdown between these two. Both were drafted out of high school last year. Both have defensive questions. Both have tools galore. To me, this would be the epitome of what the Prospect Smackdown was introduced to query. And honestly, to me, I have to say Lawrie. He is Rogers Hornsby Redux….well once he gets that BA up, but the peripherals are outstanding.

by ILuvDaBush on Aug 11, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you guys r mad

i can’t even hang around here anymore with this crazy talk

by daveh33 on Aug 11, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is interesting.

I’d take Beckham, but only because of all the scouting reports that gush about him.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they're really similar at all

But I do love Brett Lawrie’s bat

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was talking about power in absolute terms, which may not be fair.

Also, I think that a lot of that ranking had to do with how disappointed one could be after the hype. He was supposed to be the consensus best prospect in the draft, but his approach lags far behind everyone else, and he hasn’t really converted his tools into production yet. (And, like I said in my write-up for FMart, I don’t feel comfortable putting tons of faith in athletic projection.)

I still don’t understand why people constantly cite current major leaguers’ minor league numbers as rationales for ranking current prospects. It isn’t relevant. Jimmy Rollins was a powerless bum before going crazy halfway through his minor league career. It’s unfair to expect a random shortstop prospect to do the same (although Beckham would admittedly be a good candidate for that).

If Beckham has to move off of SS, I don’t know that he’d go to 2B, instead. I was thinking he’d end up at third, but that’s honestly just speculation.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I am not sure whether the comparisons are relevant or not.

I simply think that hitting 26 doubles in 380 ABs indicates he does have some power and so the statement that he “has almost no power” is not really valid or is at least an overstatement. Would you disagree with me on that?

by bobr on Aug 11, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz in the mid 40s?

I like your list overall and don’t want to come off as a jackass,because you’ve done a good overall job, but Feliz has absolutely blown people away during his time in the Major Leagues.
Now, I’m not the sort of guy who attributes a lot to individual performances; I prefer to look at the broad spectrum. But all the hyperbolic talk we heard about his fastball is 100% true. I refer you to this piece done by fangraphs the day after his debut.
The fastball is an 80 pitch, and that’s phenomenally rare. His floor is as a closer, very likely a great one. But here’s the thing; the whole ‘Feliz is a one-pitch hurler’ statement?
Utter myth.
Don’t take my word for it; talk to A’s fans, Angels fans, Mariners fans. All of them saw what Neftali did against their respective teams and they will tell you that the slurvy offering is nasty, and the 91 mph change/splitter(!) is stunningly effective, relying on the timing chaos that his fastball brings.
He’s got a very smooth motion, being one of the very few hyper-velocity guys who’s described as throwing ‘Easy heat’. That speaks well to his ability to stick in a starting role down the road.
Again, I don’t blame you for the preconceived notions about Feliz’s limitations. Most Rangers fans had him 2nd, even 3rd, on the organizational prospect list. But after seeing him in merely 3 Major league appearances, I’m sold.

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by Conjunction on Aug 11, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Dominguez?

I don’t see how you can possibly leave him off of a top 100 at this point.

by jar75 on Aug 11, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's young

but I don’t see why they jumped him to AA. FSL challenged him enough at 19. I think yeah, he may belong there somewhere. Who do you think RSF should toss of the list for matt Dominguez?

by wobatus on Aug 11, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well

there goes one of the few twins on the list.

by wobatus on Aug 11, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

replace Dominguez with Parmelee fine

but then IMO replace Wilmer Font with David Bromberg…

1 guy I have a problem with Neftali Feliz at #41 ?
too low

also Carlos Carrasco and Matt Gamel that high ? really ?

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 11, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

Poor Parmelee.

Think of the potential nicknames for him… It’ll make you want to put him into the Top 10, never mind Top 100.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: he's young

I think he held his own in the FSL. He struggled pretty badly to start the year, but his numbers are very respectable. It obviously wasn’t as pretty as his SAL performance, but wasn’t that seen as mostly attributed to his home ballpark? His walk% has increased; his K% has decreased; and he has shown decent power for the league (ISO of .157 which is 12th best in the league per fangraphs). With his defensive reputation, I definitely think he deserves to be on here.

As for who I’d leave off. Well, there are quite a few who I’d rank after Dominguez, but I’ll go with Tyson Gillies.

by jar75 on Aug 11, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sort of forgot about Dominguez.

But I don’t think he would make the top 80. In the 81-100 range, maybe.

I don’t know who I would take off (although Revere would be the obvious answer). Maybe Font. I don’t know.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I'm just overly high on him, but:

You seem to reward high floors, and I think Dominguez fits that bill. With his defensive reputation, he should at least be an average MLB third baseman. I think he has a decent chance to be better than that, and he’s a fringe top 50 guy for me.

by jar75 on Aug 11, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like I'm missing something with Ben Revere

How is he distinguishable from Juan Pierre?

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I guess my answer would be

That Pierre was a very valuable player at one point, and I think Revere projects to actually have slightly better baserunning reads and plate discipline, and maybe even a slightly better hit tool.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mat Latos....

is a righty. I know its nitpicking, but it annoys me when people make mistakes like that.

Also, you tend to pile on the negatives about guys and then add a little blurb of positive before ending their writeup, and that’s even guys in the Top 10. I guess its good to give both sides but if you’re going to do that, try to even it out a bit by telling people the same amount of good and bad.

by loop on Aug 11, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised that slipped through the cracks.

Yeah, I’ve noticed my negativity in the blurbs, as well. There are some guys here that I am probably noticeably high on, and others that, well, not so much. I think, however, that this is actually good for making my rankings sort of transparent, and a lot of it is just preemptive striking to the “OMG WHY IS ____ SO HIGH/LOW?” that I can almost automatically predict with some of these rankings.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter is way too low

Yes, there are concerns about his defense. Yes, he does strike out a bit. But considering you have Nick Weglarz at 13, Carter’s having way too good of a season to discount

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by harendaman365 on Aug 11, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Would make more sense to move down Weglarz.

Ok, so he can hit for power and take a walk. He doesnt have good contact skills or a good glove. Decent chance he ends up at 1B.

He’s a very good prospects, but not an elite/top 15 guy to me.

by alskor on Aug 11, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not both?

Carter is too low and Weglarz is too high.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my point exactly

Carter and Weglarz are similar, except Carter has a bit more power, better contact, and Weglarz will actually wear a glove occasionally. But Carter’s better, especially considering his performance of late

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by harendaman365 on Aug 12, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Id be fine with that.

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, great list otherwise

you actually seem to have put a bit of thought into this and the blurbs are pretty informative

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by harendaman365 on Aug 12, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz, Carter, Mejia

Yup, i think they are too low (both Feliz and mejia are better than Alderson). But those are quibbles and a pretty good list. Saunders is 25 on BA’s mid-season list, and he made a few top 50s earlier from the members of this site, so he is on a lot of radars, although I don’t know about his ceiling. And judging by Chacin’s k rate in just a few major league innings, that doesn’t seem much of an issue (you do have him high, but then call him an innings eater-I’d say he has a higher ceiling than that).

As a Mets fan, I am struck by how their system has improved, as reflected on your list. 6 Mets in the top 100, even though you seem a little chagrined about placing them as highly as you do. I noted on John’s Twin’s top 20 mid-season review that they seem a litle thin, again borne out that they only have 3 in your top 100, all in the 90s, so that is 5 Mets ahead of any of them. Albeit, yes, Hicks is quite young and still has loads of potential, and Revere could be a Kenny Lofton type.

Also, you were able to temper your Red Sox enthusiasm, although I think Westmoreland is going to be a top 10 guy in a year or so.

by wobatus on Aug 11, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

neal maybe too low as well

But I am liking the list since I have 10 of your top 100 on my 40 man, and more of them are available in my league (although I know some of them are reading this and a bunch will be gone by season’s end).

Thanks for sharing.

by wobatus on Aug 11, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate this.

A few notes:

Those are the big three that people have had problems with so far. (Feliz/Carter/Mejia). All three will probably be moved in the adjustment I have planned for tomorrow, to varying degrees.

As for Chacin, I don’t know why you think innings-eater has a negative connotation. He has a very high probability of being a very good #3. While he might not ever be an ace (IMO), that’s still a great thing to be. The reason that I have him ranked so high, obviously, is the idea that, on this entire list, Chacin is arguably the closest and most likely to reach his ceiling.

The Mets have definitely improved. I clearly don’t like their prospects, but it’s hard to deny their talents. Unfortunately, though, it’s not exactly a diversified portfolio… Most of those guys are high-risk, high-reward types (aside from Niese and maybe Davis). So, there’s a good chance that we look back on this Mets prospect class a couple years from now with grave disappointment (or overwhelming excitement). The Twins system is sad, but it’s funny… I think I actually like their system (purely in how I feel about the players) much more than the Mets.

I tend to be realistic about the Red Sox outside of Boston-oriented discussions. I know more about Sox prospects (naturally), but that’s also a negative, because I know all of their flaws and downsides and limitations. I’ve heard that about Westmoreland from a few places… As a Red Sox fan, I’m giddy, but I also know that it’s okay to be cautious.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't seem to make sense how MUCH you "clearly" don't like their prospects (or one in particular, haha)

Like, as in, Mejia at least needs to be ranked in the top 50. Many people aren’t jumping on the bandwagon, but his ceiling is one of the highest of the pitchers on this list.

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by squid92 on Aug 12, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Mejia

I do have some concerns about him outside of what I wrote.

This is from BA’s report on him in last year’s New York Penn Top 20:

“He’s a power-armed guy. He’s a freak,” a National League scout said. “I’m not even saying he’s any good right now, I’m just saying he’s a freak. He could probably throw 100 mph. His delivery’s fair, but
it’s hard to repeat. I see a hell of a lot of effort with Mejia. He’s like the kid at the carnival trying to win the thing, just letting it all go. He’s got no rhythm. He’s trying to be more fluid, but it’s not happening.”

 …

If Mejia can harness his stuff, his ceiling is high, but long-term durability is a major concern with his small physique and max-effort delivery.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, let's try that again.

From BA’s report:

“He’s a power-armed guy. He’s a freak,” a National League scout said. “I’m not even saying he’s any good right now, I’m just saying he’s a freak. He could probably throw 100 mph. His delivery’s fair, but it’s hard to repeat. I see a hell of a lot of effort with Mejia. He’s like the kid at the carnival trying to win the thing, just letting it all go. He’s got no rhythm. He’s trying to be more fluid, but it’s not happening.”

Mejia works around the plate but doesn’t have a lot of command in the strike zone or feel for pitching. He does have a chance for three legitimate above-average pitches, however. He has good feel for his plus 88-90 mph changeup, which he uses like a two-seam fastball. His low-80s power curveball is inconsistent, ranging from a plus pitch to well below average. If Mejia can harness his stuff, his ceiling is high, but long-term durability is a major concern with his small physique and max-effort delivery.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That report is outdated

More recently:

There have been many projections that because Mejia is just 6-foot and does not weigh even 170 pounds that he is going to end up as a power reliever. But this scout disagrees saying he sees Mejia as a starter. The scout said think a 6-foot version of Roger Clemens or Curt Schilling.

“This kid has a muscular, powerful body,” the scout said. “There is power to his body. I have no issues with his perceived lack of height. He held his velocity at 95 mph through seven innings. I don’t see him wearing down just because he is not 6-foot-4. He also has a good mound presence. He has a plus changeup, and an average slider and curveball. So he has a change that is very good and his curve might be better than average. He just doesn’t have to use it much right now. So he has two plus pitches, and a couple of average ones. So he starts for me.”

BA also more recently had positive remarks about his delivery.

by T Pac on Aug 12, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you looked at his mechanics from the past year (not saying you necessarily should have, but seeing as I went to two of his AA starts, I have)

He’s cleaned it up decidedly this year. It still has a good deal of effort, but it’s less violent. It looks much more repeatable now then last year, when it really did look like he was just throwing as hard as he could without actually pitching. Remember, this is only his third or fourth year playing baseball, let alone pitching.

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by squid92 on Sep 2, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank You

For taking the time to put this list together and do all of the writeups. While I might not agree with some of it, I find myself agreeing with alot of it and the writeups were great.

by DJSlam on Aug 11, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for reading!

If you don’t agree with something, TELL ME! This list is for my own benefit, and I am very open to suggestions and arguments so that I can make it the best list possible!

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like...

Tony Sanchez better than Angel Salome. Hitting very well in the minors and he has gold glove potential at catcher. He is this years Jason Castro with less speed and more power potential.

by joegonzo on Aug 11, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So do I, actually.

But 2009 Draftees were not included in the list. Sanchez would rank ahead of Salome on my catcher list if he were included.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One quibble

I don’t necessarily think it’s appropriate to make a luck adjustment for players who are known to be extremely quick on the basepaths, or at least not a full luck adjustment. The adjustment assumes that someone will make it to 1B a certain amount of the time on a groundball, but a fast runner like Jennings is more likely to get the single on a grounder than the average player.

Also, to answer your question on Barnese, I’m almost certain he’ll get moved up. He missed the beginning of the year due to an injury, not because he was in instructs.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 11, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And one other silly thing

I think you forgot about Gordon Beckham when you said that Alvarez was arguably having the best year of any 2008 draftee. Easy to miss, since he’s in the majors and not on the list.

Thanks for putting this together though. Seems like a lot of effort went into it.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 11, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response!

Yeah, I just really like Weglarz over Jennings. Maybe I was grasping at straws, I don’t know. Call it a hunch, but I’m adamant that Weglarz has one of the best all-around bats in the minors. I love the Jim Thome statistical comp I made.

Good to know about Barnese- early season injuries are things that I sometimes miss when doing research for these lists.

And yeah, I completely forgot about Beckham, so good call. Thanks for the kind words and acknowledgment.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I would trade TWO Weglarzes for a Jennings if I could.

by alskor on Aug 11, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the list and writeups

I’ll start by saying this is probably the best list I have seen thus far. I can tell a lot of time and thought was put into it. I have a few minor quibbles on the rankings and only a couple major quibbles. 3 things I find interesting:

1. The ranking of Decker. Does he really have plus plus raw power? I had not heard that yet. I’ve always seen him as a plus plus OBP corner OF with slightly above average power. Plus plus to me means he has the potential to hit 30+ HRs a year. From what I have read, the consensus is more around 20 HRs a year.

2. Dee Gordon just missed? He’s definitely a controversial prospect, maybe a tad bit old for his league and all, but at the same time scouts absolutely rave about the tools. I don’t think he is a top 25 guy, but I would put him in my top 50. His age fools people because he basically did not play ball at all for a year.

3. No EY Jr? Eric Young continues to be one of the most underrated prospects in the game. His D has improved considerably over the last couple years, and he has flashed enough power to keep the fielders honest. A plus plus runner with good OBP skills at 2B makes for a very valuable commodity. Although I do like Sizemore quite a bit, I’d rather have EY Jr as my 2B of the future.

Overall, great job though. Thanks for sharing!

by guru4u on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EY Jr...

is terrible. Hid defense has improved, but it is still not good enough to be an everyday secondbaseman. Also, he has been OVERRATED by Rockies fans. He will not be anything more than a 260 hitter with no power and good speed.

by joegonzo on Aug 11, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Have you read any scouting reports on him lately? The scouts disagree with you, especially as it relates to his D…..

Btw, the Rockies thought enough of him to say “no” to numerous trade offers for him at the deadline. Their people obviously like him more than you do.

by guru4u on Aug 11, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decker/Gordon/EYJ Response

1.) Yeah, I think so, though that could very well just be me. I think part of Decker’s power is what we’re seeing now, but there is still some projected power that I am accounting for, that I think will come as a result of his advanced plate discipline. Overall, you look at him this season and he’s on a 162-game pace of 24 home runs. It’s not hard to imagine a 19 year old add some muscle as he gets older, and I definitely think 30 homers annually is within reach. But, as I admitted in the write-up for him, he is my boldest ranking, and probably the guy with whom I am the most irrational.

2.) Not a fan of Gordon at all. He might be a walking toolbox, but at 21, he has poor strike zone judgment, poor baserunning reads, and extremely poor power. His only real skills in terms of production right now are contact and speed. He’s a just missed for me. I don’t see it.

3.) If his defense is really as improved as you’ve said, he looks okay. Not a top 100 guy. He has comparable plate discipline to Sizemore, but Young has no power to speak of, and Sizemore has greatly improved his defense this year, as well. I don’t think it’s really even close between the two of them.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fernando Martinez

is 20 years old. Not sure why everyone is so quick to say that he hasn’t shown much thus far. The hyper and expectations are way too high for a 20 year old in AA/AAA ball. He has been rushed through the systems (as the Mets do with all of their prospects) and while he hasn’t crushed the ball, he has done a good job for his age. I’d say give him another full healthy year in AAA to show what he can do, and then we can re-evaluate.

by napes22 on Aug 11, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on all counts.

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by squid92 on Aug 11, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, here is the problem with F-Mart
give him another full healthy year in AAA


One needs a first full healthy year in order to have another full healthy year. This kid has yet to post a full season of ABs due to various injuries.

by guru4u on Aug 11, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuck

I really messed that formatting up.

by guru4u on Aug 11, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what prompted this.

Was I negative on FMart? I ranked him something like 27th, right? My review wasn’t positive, but it was definitely more optimistic than what I said about him last year. The point I was trying to make is that we were told that Martinez is supposed to be the next great power LF. He hasn’t come close to hinting that yet, but this season was a step towards that.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way the Teheran has been hyped since signing with the Braves two years ago, you’d think the kid was at AAA with a 0.00 ERA. Instead, he just made his 14th start last week, and his first at the low-A South Atlantic League. I’m not sure that his stats really mean anything at this point, but they have been admittedly impressive (64/12 K/BB in 63.2 innings) thus far. He is still just 18 years old, and is a huge, huge breakout candidate if the Braves decide to start him at full-season ball in 2010 (which they most likely will).

Teheran is finishing out the year in full season ball. lol

I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him pitch in Myrtle Beach (Advanced A) in 2010 (especially if DeVall is actually having TJS) for at least part of the year.

The Braves showed by sticking him in Danville at 17 that they aren’t afraid to promote him aggressively, because they feel he’s that advanced.

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by timmy3 on Aug 11, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am bad at writing sentences.

Yeah, I know he’s already at full-season ball. However, my question was more of whether or not they’ll let him START 2010 there, or if they’ll put him in extended ST. I’m not sure what their plans are for him in terms of season pitch limitations.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha. Considering they let Delgado and Spruill start the year in Rome; I think Teheran may follow the same path. One of those three is going to be special I think, and Teheran’s the one I like the best.

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by timmy3 on Aug 12, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you RedSoxFaithful

I like the list. I’d like to hear your justifications on a few spots:
1. Nick Weglarz at #13
2. Kyle Blanks at #28, he hasn’t looked great at AAA or MLB yet this season
3. Casey Crosby at #49, maybe this is just me, but I thought he was fringe-100 due to 4. injuries
4. Scott Sizemore in the 50’s, again I thought he was fringe-100
5. Michael Taylor in the 50’s
6. Kasey Kiker on the list, I understand this if you think he will be a starter, but everywhere I look somebody is saying that he is destined for the pen.

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by gore51 on Aug 11, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea...

Weglarz should not be ahead of Pedro Alvarez.

by joegonzo on Aug 11, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, this is a list for the best baseball prospects

And Andrew Lambo sort of hasn’t been very good at baseball this season. So there’s that.

Also, when Andrew Lambo was good at baseball, most people who talk about baseball for a living thought that Michael Moustakas was better at baseball. So there’s that.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if lambo was in A ball like the overrated moustakas is

he would have a slugging percentage over .550 and be batting over .300 Then were would he rank….

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You really don't no much about this, do you?

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by squid92 on Aug 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*know

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by squid92 on Aug 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilmer Flores

It bears mentioning that his lack of walks is coupled with a lack of strikeouts.

by Fanon on Aug 11, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it does bear mentioning.

Thank you for mentioning it. ;-)

I just wish the Mets would let their prospects develop normally. I want to see what Flores’ true talent level is right now, but unfortunately that is impossible because they are the Mets and they hate their baseball players.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really agree with their development strategy

But I do think it remains to be seen whether it really hurts development or not, as Fernando Martinez is the first player to make the bigs who was pushed hard throughout the minors.

What it definitely does is lower trade value dramatically, as it’s damn near impossible to evaluate guys who are two levels higher than they should be.

by Fanon on Aug 12, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In addition to Lambo,

Jordan Danks should be there, too.

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by Frederick0220 on Aug 11, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just my thoughts on the A's guys

Cardenas is too high. I’m really, really, really worried about his lack of power. Thankfully, he’s a middle infielder, so even if it never comes he could still have some value, but I’ve pretty much decided to forever distrust the “power will come” types until I actually see it. Damn you, Daric Barton.

I think Carter is too low. It looks like it was hashed out above, but I think the only true knock on the guy at this point can be defense, and between last year and this year he’s got a 16/5 SB/CS ratio, so it’s not like he’s unathletic. Athletic guys tend to, or at least have a much better chance of, figuring out defense, as opposed to…

Wallace. I’m glad you’ve got him low. I was never high on that trade, and I still don’t like his bat. If you’re that athletically limited, you better be hitting the ball, like Carter. I don’t get what Wallace has done to justify the hype. .260/.320/.412 in Sacramento so far, which looks a lot like what he was doing in Springfield. I’m not saying he can’t make it, but I am saying he’s given very little objective reason to think he will so far.

Cunningham. If the A’s would just let the kid play I feel like he would justify the ranking. Until they actually do that, though, I feel like he’s sort of in a prospect limbo. Not a ton left to prove in AAA, but not getting a chance at all in the bigs.

Donaldson – like the recognition for him. He’s underrated in my opinion, in that it looks like he will both be able to stick at catcher and carry a bat that’s plenty acceptable for the position.

Weeks – also like his ranking. He’s not gonna ever do what he did in the CAL league in the majors, but he’s looking at least like he’ll be a pretty fine ballplayer. He won’t be a superstar, but it’s also hard to see him busting, and a pretty decent up-the-middle guy who can play D and swipe a bag or two is a valuable asset.

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by walk off bunt on Aug 11, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

re: wallace

i’m with you. i don’t see what he’s done this year that justifies him being so high on so many lists right now. i think he can be a decent hitter and can even play 3B for a while…but i’m not getting the love affair honestly.

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by doublestix on Aug 11, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve pretty much decided to forever distrust the "power will come" types until I actually see it.

Pablo Sandoval.

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by Player To Be Named Later on Aug 11, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

I’m saying it’s a fool’s errand to try and predict who it will happen with.

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by walk off bunt on Aug 11, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anybody ever say that Daric Barton's power would come?

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by OldProspects on Aug 12, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Response on the A's!

I could see bumping Cardenas down. We’ll see if that’s something I do in my adjustments tomorrow.

See all my other comments for Carter arguments. Good chance he gets bumped up tomorrow.

Wallace is beginning to really worry me. Where did the power go?

Yeah, Cunningham pretty much has AAA figured out at this point. He got promoted the other day IIRC, so we’ll see how they utilize him this time around. He deserves some at-bats, IMO.

Donaldson is one of my favorite catching prospects. I love the plate discipline, and it’s refreshing to not have to worry about a catching prospect moving off of catcher.

Weeks is a guy I like-but-don’t-love. He’ll be good.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many current A+ hitters made your list?

I’m sure the pitchers in A+ ball are a dime a dozen to sort out but what about the hitters like
Grant Desme? There are just a handful of 1000+ OPS guys in A+ ball and maybe 20 with a 900+ OPS. None of them have anything close to his combination of speed (37-3 SB in total this year), and power (isolated power of 362)
 
I know he’s only played 44 out of 113 games in A+ in his rookie year and has contact problems but he missed 1 1/2 years between college and this year, is steadily improving and is spanking the ball as if he just took the summer off. He was a second round pick so he has some pedigree.

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by OmahaHi on Aug 12, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You neglected to mention that he's 23 years old.

That’s probably my big problem with him, is the age. Speed/power combos are lovely, but the combination of Desme’s age and time in CAL makes me skeptical. It doesn’t look all that nice if he’s just a speed guy.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a reason he is older.

I think missing the 1 1/2 years after college kind of explains why he is a bit old. I’m not sure you should discount him because of it. How many guys have missed that amount of time and then blew it up when they came back in their rookie year? This may deserve more consideration, not less. And in all reality he could be putting up great numbers in AA if the A’s were not going slow with their prospects. The A+ Stockton team OPS is 730. AA Midland is 810.

Now if you tell me the wrist injury that caused him to miss the 1 1/2 years is chronic and makes him injury prone rather than a freak thing that we shouldn’t ever worry about again, I can agree more with you.

I think its a good list and am curious on what levels they play at. ei are 33 in AAA, 33 in AA, 13 in A+ and 12 in lower A? I’m sure I could spend 3 hours figuring it out but was hoping you already know.

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Aug 12, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should also say that it's not like I'm projecting plus power from Cardenas.

Just 10-15 homers annually, maybe maxing out at 15-20. Is that really unreasonable?

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a guy for you to consider...

Danny Espinosa. Switch hitting SS, with a plus fielding tool (some scouts have said it would already be plus at an MLB level), good speed (20+ steals this year), power (41 XBH in 282 AB, including 12 dingers), and a good batting eye (60+ BB this year).

by soccerman0 on Aug 11, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I didn't think I'd like him, but I really do.

My sort of player. Even still he’s more of a wait and see type, because of the lack of contact ability and poor baserunning reads. Definitely needs to cut down on his strikeouts. I’ll keep an eye on him.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a really underlooked guy in my opnion...

I have him in the 80’s on my list, but then again I do like him quite a bit. If he plays well in AA next year, hes a top 50 guy IMO. His biggest weakness is contact hitting (as you alluded)…..which is odd because he hit for a high average in college. Hopefully he can figure it out…thanks for the response!

by soccerman0 on Aug 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Question

anybody know what happened to Adyis Portillo ?

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 11, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

another question

How good is San Diego’s system ?

Dexter Carter
Forsythe
Antonelli
Decker
Poreda
Portillo ????
Latos
I know I’m forgetting someone…..

by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Aug 11, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SD Prospects

Wynn Pelzer/Drew Cumberland definitely spring to mind. And I’ve always been a bit partial to Nick Schmidt, though he definitely has a glass ceiling.

by ILuvDaBush on Aug 11, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love SD's system.

I’d have it ranked as follows right now:

1.) Decker
2.) Latos
3.) Blanks
4.) Darnell
5.) Forsythe
6.) Poreda
7.) Pelzer
8.) Carter
9.) Castro
10.) Portillo

Lots of pitching depth, and I’m in love with most of the positional prospects.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 11, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all of them are overrated

none have any power and have good platye discipline…. but in the majors you arent going to get walked and you have to hit the ball which these college kids in A ball cant do

by matthewmafa on Aug 12, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't walk to Petco

Unless you’re in the Cali League.

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by Brickhaus on Aug 12, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

I noticed that as well. I can’t imagine he’ll be super-sharp after taking an extended leave, but it’s great to see him going again. Top 20 prospect on my list for next year.

by St.Steve on Aug 11, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 20....

Seems like a tad much, especially considering how much time he missed. Come on Steve, just cause he’s on your fantasy team, that doesn’t make him a top 20 guy, does it? :)

by Kerm on Aug 12, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like him that much, too.

The ceiling in and of itself makes him somewhere #15-#20, if you ask me. And little known fact, Mejia started playing baseball when he was 16, only 3 years ago! How crazy is that, right?

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by squid92 on Aug 12, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need to see more.

Had he been pitching this whole time in AA and was successful, 15-20 would not be a reach. Those 8 or so AA starts he missed would have been imperative in judging his worth Imo. I would likely have him about 30th at this point.

by Kerm on Aug 12, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with you about T-Beckham

He is all projection and potential.A lot of Rays K a lot for some reason.

by thedudeofdudes on Aug 11, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good list

out of curiousity, where would guys like Ackley, Tate, Crow, and Tony Sanchez rank?

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by doublestix on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For me:

Ackley – Around 15
Tate – 90-100
Crow – Around 15
Sanchez – Nowhere in my top 100

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by Frederick0220 on Aug 12, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see some Tigers love

altho the incidents of tonight’s game in Fenway make me shake my fist in your general direction. Can’t believe Porcello got tossed AFTER Youk charged the mound (nice body slam tho).

I know the Tigers system hasn’t generally rated well league wide, but next year, Ryan Perry, Sizemore, and Avila (6-11, HR, 4 2B so far) could be the closer (or at least a high-leverage reliever), starting second baseman, and starting catcher, respectively. Hopefully it’s not just out of necessity and these guys can really play. Perry and Avila alone would be a decent haul from the ’08 draft if they hold their current development path and cheaply perform key roles the next several years.

by The Fume on Aug 11, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1) Youkilis was hit in the same exact spot yesterday, middle of the back

2) Porcello had clearly just tried to hit VMart and hard words with him after.

3) Porcello has hit two batters this year – Youkilis and… Youkilis.

I dont know for sure whether it was intentional or not, but I certainly dont blame Youk for reacting like that. Tazawa hitting Cabrera on the hands? THAT was clearly NOT intentional and didnt deserve a response, nevermind two.

by alskor on Aug 11, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Porcello

threw inside intentionally to VMart, and didn’t try to hide it. Absolutely. If he threw at Youk intentionally, he certainly tried to hide it.

My beef is with the umps, there was no warning beforehand, and they didn’t throw Porcello out immediately, like they do with any other time they throw someone out for hitting a batter. Only after Youk charged and threw his helmet like a girl, did Porcello get tossed.

The lesson here is, if you get hit, charge the mound so you can get the starting pitcher ejected. Gave Boston the game.

by The Fume on Aug 12, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Porcello will be a beast the rest of the season. He’s got it going on right now.

by The Fume on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm…

Porcello ran away from Youk – if anyone did anything “like a girl” that was it. Then he hugged Youk and swung the both of them to the ground rather than stand and fight him. Youk threw his helmet b/c Porcello kept backing away.

The reason he wasnt immediately ejected is because Youk immediately charged the mound and the ump went running after him. Did you want him to stop and eject Porcello before going after Youk?

Porcello threw the game away trying to act like a tough guy, IMO. He thought he would hit him and he would go straight to first, just like when they hit Youk yesterday… but the Sox have had enough of this Jim Leyland old school BS.

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure how this discussion got started here...

…but Youk is an idiot for throwing his helmet. Sure, Porcello’s behavior was inexcusable — he had already thrown at VMart (and missed) — and I don’t necessarily blame Youk for charging. But throwing his helmet? I know it’s in the heat of the moment, but come on.

And what do you mean, “stand and fight him” — that Porcello’s supposed to put up his dukes and trade punches? Now that’s old school BS. It simply doesn’t happen anymore, so let’s not expect some 20-year old kid to come to fisticuffs with a full-grown bear of a man who’s charging the mound.

by PhillyFriar on Aug 12, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, so he can be all tough guy throwing a fastball at a guy standing 60 feet away, but he wont fight a guy? – and that guy is a few inches shorter than him? Porcello was backpedaling away like a fairy.

And it does indeed happen. James Shields slugged Coco Crisp last year.

The helmet throw thing is being overplayed by people who dont like Youk to begin with. Its not like he threw it at his head, he just flung it off in his direction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaZUWqzzBV8

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you think it was intentional

you’re crazy. Porcello didn’t want to fight him because he wasn’t throwing at him. Look at his reaction after the VMart pitch, who he was definitely throwing at (because Tigers had been pegged 4 times in the 10 innings they were batting to that point), and compare it with the Youkilis pitch.

And I don’t know why you think it’s ‘manly’ to throw a hissy fit and run at a thin 20 year-old kid just because you can’t take a little pain. That seems very ‘womanly’ to me.

And the funny thing is, even backpedaling away from a crazy person, Porcello was still able to body slam the guy.

At any rate, I sure hope Beckett pegs a guy in the first inning, because you know the Tiger will charge, and Beckett will have to be thrown out of the game.

by The Fume on Aug 12, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweep

Count on it.

I dont know it was intentional, I said, but I can understand why Youk would have thought it was. Porcello’s reaction doesnt tell me anything. He probably expected Youk to put his head down and go to first. Either way, no way youre telling me the Youk beaning the day before wasnt intentional. The Tigers getting hit? On the hands? Half stuck out over the plate? Pretty clearly not intentional.

Can’t take a little pain? You ever been hit up high with a pitch like that? Multiple times?

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree, probably a sweep

Altho I think Verlander is going tomorrow, and he’s going to be pizzed.

Even if the Boston beanings weren’t intentional, that doesn’t mean you ain’t going to get buzzed yourself. That’s baseball.

I don’t have a problem with Youk charging, do what you want, just don’t make it sound manly, and don’t deny that he did get pwned.

Rick should not have been thrown out, and IF he was, it should have been done IMMEDIATELY by the home plate ump. I don’t see how a batter charging changes the equation on whether or not a pitcher gets ejected. There were no warnings. I just don’t get the logic.

RE: suspensions: 5 games for Porcello is really no penalty; Galarraga is sick tonight, so he Minor goes and AG takes Porcello’s spot Sunday and Porcello goes the next game. Regarding Youkilis, I don’t know if 5 is typical for someone charging the mound, but it sounds about right.

by The Fume on Aug 12, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just joking.

Not taking this too seriously….

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

Throwing your helmet is just fine!

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Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 games for both Youk and Porcello

So it seems like they (correctly) didnt make much of the helmet toss.

by alskor on Aug 12, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOVE YOUR LIST!

…and thanks for taking the time to do it RSFF. I really, enjoyed the comments on each player – the reasoned approach to the rankings – and many of the “outside the box” rankings themselves, Decker, Hudson, etc.

I have some comments on YOUR comments though- with appologies to anybody who said anything I said first- i just wanted to get my thoughts down before I forget…

TOTALLY agree with you on Bumgarner. I also believe his drop in K’s in AA has everything to do with his awesome FB command and the dead air in Connecticut, You dont NEED to miss bats there.

Not a HUGE critiicism but, I think Justin Smoak is the most overrated player on yours and most lists these days. I think he’s a big league 1B, and a pretty good one, but not better than either Morrison or Alonso. i think he should be ranked around where they are myself.

Impressed that you ranked Santana 10th even though you say you didn’t care for him much. i think if you watch the available clips of him on youTube you’ll be more impressed- sytlish, patient, powerful hitter with quick bat. i think he is OBVIOUSLY a better prospect than Smaok because I think he is a better HITTER than him.

I am impressed with the Weglarz ranking even if I don’t agree with it, if that makes any sense- lol. His power, patience, youth is impressive but pyre hitting ability is pretty important too and he has some questions there.

Kyle Blanks- WAY more tough breaking pitches in AAA and the big leagues buddy. i’d point out that he k’d only 4 times in his last 30+ Ab’s in AAA and has already adjusted and is getting pitches to drive in the show now. His stats o0verall may not be impressive but his ability to adjust to MUCH better competition has been. He has REALLY impressed me this year.

Friedrich was completely AWESOME in short-season ball last year.

Latos is a righty. Another guy I’d like to take the time to chastize our little community on. He suppoedly had not enough of this or that or the other and he gets called up and from watiching him pitch for an inning or two a freaking SCHOOLGIRL can tell he is a tough and extremely gifted power pitcher- WOW. I love me some Bumgarner but It’d be hard to take him over Latos

Anyways, thanks for making this list and sharing it and I share your love for Jaff Decker!

by casejud on Aug 12, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok,one more...

Tim Beckham has 34 xbh’s. That is pretty darned good power for a 19 year old middle infielder in full-season A-ball

by casejud on Aug 12, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

solid list, quick cubs thought

most years, I’d fully acknowledge that my support of Cubs guys for rankings rested largely with them being, well, Cub guys. Certainly, that may play a factor this year, but I truly believe that Jay Jackson (demotion and all) is a top 100 guy. He had a bad month, but was dominant for a long stretch this year. The control issues in the last month at AA haven’t been there in Daytona, and it seems like this was a youthful mistake/teach the kid a lesson moment. He’s improved his velocity this year, he has more consistency on his slider than Cashner, he’s got quality curve/change offerings, and no real huge mechanical issues.

I also fully believe that Starlin Castro deserves a top 100 nod. I’m actually not as gung ho on Starlin as come Cubs fans (and some prospect fans are – it’s more of the unknown that bothers me than the known – sure he doesn’t hit for power and his defensive consistency isn’t there, but what makes me ponder a second is how a kid grows into his body. I mean, if we’re talking a 2nd base prospect, then he’s intriguing, but not as much.) Right now, though, most think he could develop at short, and considering how well he’s done this year, and that he’s in AA now and will likely start there in 2010, I find it tough to think that there’s 100+ guys clearly better than him when the entire package is put together.

But that’s me.

Overall solid list, will take a longer peek when I get a chance.

by toonsterwu on Aug 12, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Drew Storen on that list.

Be real with yourself.

by Daggerrrrrr on Aug 12, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I meant to mention this in my intro, but must've forgotten.

1.) All 2009 Draftees were deliberately left off of the list.
2.) All relief prospects were deliberately left off of the list.

Storen falls under both categories.

by RedSoxFaithful on Aug 12, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Montero's offensive flaw, BB%, comes with a

low K%. He’s simply a contact machine. Does it really matter if he’s just a DH in the Majors? His numbers match or exceed any other prospect’s (except Heyward’s AA), which is something considering his age.

I chuckle at the fact Yankee Stadium will probably be the easiest home park he’s had to hit in whenever he gets to the Majors.

by BusinessNeverPersonal on Aug 13, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's going to be pretty monstrous.

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by squid92 on Sep 2, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decker at #7

Love the guts to man’up and post that. He’s incredibly forgotten about, and with the petco blackhole that Blanks showed signs of hope in, and Adrian goin’ off in earlier this year if somehow they kept those 3 around that could be a flash of hope for runs and fun rounding the bases for scoring.

Great post – thanks!

\m/

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