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Washburn traded to Tigers for French and Robles


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Jarrod Washburn traded to the Detroit Tigers for Luke French and Mauricio Robles (LHP, Lakeland).  Seems like a pretty slim haul for the Mariners.  If they are actually trying to contend this year, I'm not sure why they don't just hold on to Washburn and try to re-sign him for next year if this was his market value.

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I doubt they would've resigned Washburn

That said, I agree that it seems like a pretty slim haul. There’s enough to be intrigued with in Robles to think he might be something, but it’s still not a great haul. I understand that Washburn being a rental didn’t help, but I thought they might’ve gotten a tad more with all the rumors flying around.

by toonsterwu on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

The M's have confused me the past couple days

The Wilson/Snell trade indicated a desire to go for it this year, but this trade makes me think they’re packing it in. They SHOULD pack it in, but not sure why the Wilson trade unless the want to keep him around for another couple years.

I don’t know much about the prospects, but I can’t imagine the Mariners would’ve offered Washburn arbitration (he’s Type B right now) so getting something for him is good.

by thejd44 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilson-Snell trade makes a lot of sense

if you conceptualize it as Clement for Snell and a pile of poop for Wilson.

Plus, Z seems to be a big fan of defense. I definitely don’t read that as being a “win-now” move.

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by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, if they pick up Wilson's option then it makes more sense

I think both trades are good for Seattle in a vacuum. I just see them as sending opposite signals for this year, though the Snell/Wilson acquisitions aren’t this year only types of deals so I suppose even that first trade was made with an eye towards 2010.

Either way, I really like what Seattle is doing overall these days.

by thejd44 on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not much of a difference

between Washburn and French

Washburn’s periphs: 5.7 k; 2.4 bb; 0.8 hr; 3.83 FIP
French’s periphs: 5.5 k; 3.2 bb; 0.58 hr; 3.87 FIP

I think they’re interchangeable, performance-wise. French is younger, a lot cheaper, and under control the next 6 years.

by gogotabata on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

French's HR/FB rate is microscopic

That won’t last. His xFIP is 5.52.

I get what Z is trying to do here— outfield defense + fly ball pitchers— but French looks like a sub-mediocre prospect to me.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should add, however, that Robles is good enough to make the trade work for me on his own

so whatever minimal value French adds is pure gain.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Jul 31, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's selling but also buying to fill potential holes in the future (something BB does pretty well too).

Smart guy.

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by lenscrafters on Jul 31, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got sorta excited that was Oscar Robles

my favorite utility infielder of all time…oh well…

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by harendaman365 on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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