Jeff Clement : Total erosion of strike zone judgement?

by FanBall on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM EDT

What happened to the K judgment? Does this show he is pretty much a Triple-A slugger?

2003	USC	Pac10	19	-	NCAA			56	208	53	62	8	1	21	53	1	1	32	43	5		0	1	3	.298	.402	.649	1051
2004	USC	Pac10	20	-	NCAA			52	198	36	58	12	1	10	43	1	5	38	39	5		1	2	3	.293	.416	.515	931
2005	USC	Pac10	21	-	NCAA			63	230	52	80	17	0	15	54	5	6	44	43	13		2	3	1	.348	.472	.617	1089
	EVE	Nwst	21	Sea	A-	c		4	11	4	3	1	0	0	1	0	0	1	2	2	0	0	1	0	.273	.400	.364	764
	WIS	Midw	21	Sea	A	c		30	113	17	36	5	0	6	20	1	2	12	25	1	0	0	1	0	.319	.386	.522	908
2006	SAN	Tex	22	Sea	AA	c		15	59	7	17	6	1	2	10	0	0	7	8	3	0	0	1	1	.288	.386	.525	911
	TAC	PCL	22	Sea	AAA	c		67	245	23	63	10	0	4	32	0	2	16	53	8	1	1	2	8	.257	.321	.347	668
2007	TAC	PCL	23	Sea	AAA	c		125	455	76	125	35	3	20	80	0	0	61	88	10	4	0	4	8	.275	.370	.497	867
	SEA	AL	23	Sea	MLB		5,9	9	16	4	6	1	0	2	3	0	0	3	3	0	0	0	0	0	.375	.474	.813	1287
2008	TAC	PCL	24	Sea	AAA	c		48	173	40	58	17	0	14	43	0	0	35	30	3	0	0	0	7	.335	.455	.676	1131
	SEA	AL	24	Sea	MLB	c-dh	6,8	66	203	17	46	10	1	5	23	0	1	15	63	5	0	0	1	4	.227	.295	.360	655
2009	TAC	PCL	25	Sea	AAA			91	371	65	106	32	3	14	67	1	0	43	81	4	2	0	2	11	.286	.364	.501	865

It's like he took his MLB strike zone judgment with him. I've been fooled by this guy twice now in my fantasy leagues. I'm done with him. I even got tricked into getting excited when it was mentioned he was going to be traded today.

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The Mariners

I don’t think there is anything wrong with Clement, just the team he plays for. the guy has nothing to prove at AAA yet he is just going to rot there because the M’s are stupid, and have mishandled him from day 1. I love Griffey, he’s my favorite player ever, but lets be honest between him and Sweeney in the DH spot they have stolen 400 ABs that should have went to Clement. He’s buried and if he doesn’t get out of the organization very soon he won’t have much of a career.

by GoldenSpikes24 on Jul 29, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions

Well he's the Pirate's problem now...

by Dfarth on Jul 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions

might as well post the deets here...

Ian Snell and Jack Wilson to Mariners in exchange for Jeff Clement,Ronny Cedeno, Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin, Nathan Adcock

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by Future Fish on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

not ideal...

A trade to to an NL team is better than rotting in Tacoma, but still….

I guess Clement is going to be spending his time at 1B now?

by FastBennyF on Jul 29, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Or

Could it precursor a Doumit deal?

by Dfarth on Jul 29, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Interesting, but

I thought it was generally agreed upon at this point that a) given his defensive acumen and b) given his Gary Carter knees, that Clement didn’t really have a future behind the dish. Do you think the Bucs would try him there?

by FastBennyF on Jul 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Re:

Honestly, I think the most likely scenario is Clement at 1B and he will spell Doumit on his days off. Guess we will have to wait and see…

by Dfarth on Jul 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions

He's now a Pirate

Clement + 4 others for Jack Wilson and Ian Snell.

by Willie on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions

It's possible

that he will get flipped to the AL in a deal already set up.

by The Colonel on Jul 29, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions

250 PA

Dude’s had about 250 plate appearances in the major leagues. Think it’s a bit too early to give up on him.

by ThomasG on Jul 29, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions

Yep

Only 25, crushes Rs, hits for power and was jerked around by the M’s. Playing Griffey & Sweeney over Clement was dumb. Ian Snell is a nice return.

Question: Why do the M’s want Jack Wilson since he is a FA in 2 months? They’re 6.5 out of the WC behind Boston and behind TB. Or do they think they can re-sign him (I know they love the D).

by The Colonel on Jul 29, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

They plan on re-signing him

Couple of very good trades – getting rid of Bentacort who was awful, and pulling in a much better defender and average bat. Snell is obviously the prize moving to a strong pitchers park (not sure how well he’ll adjust to the AL though).

Suprised they didn’t go for Sanchez and move Lopez to SS. Didn’t he come up as one?

by napes22 on Jul 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Lopez

Is stretched enough as it is playing second. No way he could handle the move to short.

by ThomasG on Jul 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Club Option

Cot’s shows Wilson with a $8.4MM club option for 2010. Rumor also is the Pirates are sending a large amount of cash Seattle’s way, which makes sense given how much the Mariners gave up to get both Snell and Wilson.

by ThomasG on Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I love the trade for both teams

Not really sure why they sent Clement straight to AAA…he had been hitting pretty well as of late. Either way looks like they have a decent option at 1B now on days when Doumit catches.

by napes22 on Jul 29, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions

I'm guessing they sent him to AAA to learn how to play 1B

He’s only played there a handful of times in the minors. He is not ready to be a first baseman right now, it would be foolish to put him out there on the big club. He can be a decent first baseman in the future but it’ll take a little time to learn a new position. Its a shame he didn’t go to an AL club where he could DH while he learns to field. His bat is as ready as it will ever be.

by Scrupio on Jul 30, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions