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Which player is the best bet from the 2009 draft NOT to sign

Any player, any round, high school or college. If you had your hard earned money riding on one pick NOT to sign with their team this year, who do you take??? Guessing it would be some later round flyer a cheap team took on a talented HS kid?

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My first round pick

Tyler Matzek

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

by Savoy on Jul 19, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Of the picks that have the highest potential, this is my pick. He did not look pleased to be drafted by the Rockies but it could have been a combination of when he was selected as well.

I think Wheeler was visably upset that the Giants called his name just before the Braves. Born and raised in GA, I bet you he dreamed of putting a Braves uniform on since he first picked up a baseball. I doubt the Braves are in position to take him in a few years if he were to pass up the money to go play college ball but I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t sign.

There are a ton of late guys I don’t think will sign. Maddux is a good one, Brian Goodwin, Richie Shaffer, Andrew Susac…you could list a few hundred guys that should be in this thread before Strasburg in my opinion.

by jfish26101 on Jul 19, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Later round pick

Austin Maddox

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.

by Savoy on Jul 19, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Really the only answer in this thread that is close to answering the question.

by aCone419 on Jul 20, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

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by Brickhaus on Jul 20, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strasburg

for some reason the last couple days I get the feeling the Natinals are going to banish him to a year of indy ball and draft him again next year hoping to save some money.

by smoooooth on Jul 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Doubt it

Its not worth the risk of him telling them they can’t redraft him.

by CRUSHDAVIS on Jul 19, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

They're on pace to be able to draft Harper anyways

So instead of Strasburg/Harper, they’ll have Harper and some far inferior talent that they’ll be forced to take since the “makeup pick” is not protected and has far less leverage (see: Aaron Crow to Drew Storen). It’s never a good idea to have a first round pick go unsigned.

by jibs on Jul 19, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm....

If they get the first and second pick, and one of them is not protected….doesn’t that mean the other pick is? Couldn’t they theoretically draft Strasburgh again with the protected pick and really screw with him?

by JayWise on Jul 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure and walk away without Strasburg or Harper potentially. Why and the hell would they do that? Why would the ownder let Rizzo keep his job?

by jfish26101 on Jul 19, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor

I think the Braves view him as late-first round slot and he’s like “hey, I’m #7. that’s what I’m worth”. The Braves, knowing full well that they’ll have more money to spend in next year’s DEEPER draft (and with the impending departure of both Soriano and Gonzalez, both type-A projected), will call his bluff. He won’t sign and the Braves will, most likely, have something like 6 picks in the first round/supplemental.

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 19, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

for what it's worth

Minor and his people have reportedly said they think he’s going to add some velocity. It’s kind of a weird claim to make, but given that raw stuff is his biggest question it’s an interesting note.

I really can’t believe that the Braves would be dumb enough to draft a guy that they want to sign below-slot without having a pre-draft deal in place. I think this deal gets done – neither side benefits if there is no deal.

by mrkupe on Jul 19, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

Braves would save $ (which is something we need to do) and Minor could PROVE that he added Velocity in an Indie league and come back next year.

adding velocity? he gonna ’roid?

by apoxonbothyourhouses on Jul 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

velocity

I believe the idea out of the Minor camp is that they think natural physical maturity and the benefits of going on a pro style workout and throwing program will help him add another couple of ticks to his fastball. I’m not sure how much I buy that, and it’s unusual for a college pitcher to be using that as a marketing tool for themselves. Nonetheless, there ARE some guys who do end up improving their stuff in the transition (although I imagine you’d find more guys who see a bit of a dropoff).

I don’t think the Braves really care that much about saving money in this case. Braves fans who were hoping they’d draft Jacob Turner or Tyler Matzek might be hoping the Braves forget about Minor and instead set their eyes on a big-time prep arm for next year, but that’s clearly not what they’re interested in. Minor was the guy they decided they liked, and a month and a half ago they liked him enough to commit a top-ten selection and the bonus that comes with that slot to him. Why exactly they like him so much I don’t know, but they’re not going to just give up on signing him. They had No. 7 slot money to offer to any guy on the board that they liked . . .even without going over slot, they could have had plenty of high-upside guys. But they preferred Minor then, and I don’t know why they would suddenly not prefer him to whatever might be there next year.

I would be very surprised if the Braves don’t sign Minor.

by mrkupe on Jul 19, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unlikely

Minor is probably just holding out for non-slashed slot money. Teams don’t typically play the types of games you are talking about.

And the Braves probably don’t WANT 6 picks in the first-through-supplemental rounds. That would be either incredibly expensive for one draft, or they would be forced to waste some of the picks a la the Giants a few years back (taking Jackson Williams, Wendell Fairley, and Charlie Culberson with their excess picks).

by aCone419 on Jul 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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My email is andrew.j.batson@gmail.com or my YIM: jombarii311 or AIM: fishingtilnoon

If you are interested please reach me through one of those sources. I am lookin for someone who is going to be on constantly and wants to make deals for a good up and coming orioles team.

by Jombari on Jul 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf

This is like the 3rd thread I’ve seen you post this in.

by jfish26101 on Jul 20, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colton Cain

2 way player that is a very strong commitment to my Longhorns. LHP will be what takes him to the promise land. Pirates drafted him in the 8th Round. There is no chance he signs.

by JDizzidy on Jul 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Out of first rounders, Tate or Matzek

I think the hard-sign college players all sign (Strasburg, Green, Ackley, etc.).

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by Blicks on Jul 19, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Matzek or Kentrali Davis

Matzek wants $7M and the Rockies have already signed 2 guys who were projected as 1st rounders (T. Wheeler & Brothers) or Kentrali Davis who was a supp. pick by the Brewers-he came into the year as a 1st round talent but had a bad year-adding to Davis’ leverage he was a draft eligible sophomore so he could return to Tennessee.

Grab Some Pine Meat!

by Gobroks on Jul 20, 2009 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

The Davis situation is insane. Sets his price, team matches it…oh wait, I want more. Ridiculous.

by jfish26101 on Jul 20, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shelby Miller

It appears less and less likley every day that he doesn’t end up in College Station.

by CoolCat23 on Jul 20, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

What makes you say that?

From all I’ve read and heard, if there is a first rounder that doesn’t sign, it’s Matzek. Strasburg, Tate and Miller seem to be locks to be signed – just at the deadline itself.

by guru4u on Jul 20, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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