Adrian Cardenas

by Asfan4ever723 on Jul 16, 2009 5:32 PM EDT Comment 18 comments

Any thoughts on his future? He didnt make BAs top 30 or so prospects last week. Is he considered a guy with polished hitting ability but not alot of upside? Did his short stint in AAA hurt his status. He hasnt shown alot of HR power, but solid gap power. A better athlete with upside is pushing him at the lower levels in Jemile Weeks. Would a Cardenas shift to 3b lessen his status? Some would would say he might be a 2b version of a daric barton. No star upside,but a decent bet to be an avg/above avg player.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502133

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I'm not sure why this persistent myth continues to exist about 3B being less valuable than 2B

The two positions have equivalent adjustments. I think 3B offense is slightly better, but that’s like saying Hogwarts students are nicer than Slytherin students— it’s the result of the kind of players who get “sorted” to the position (3B tend to be taller, which correlates better with power even though it has no apparent impact on defensive ability).

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by PaulThomas on Jul 16, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the theory

the theory, I suppose, is that taller players are more vulnerable when making the pivot on the double play. Don’t know if that’s actually the case or not, though.

One question which seems relevant is whether you think it is important to have a balanced offensive attack; that is, whether it is important to compliment a guy like Cardenas (line drives, doubles power) with other hitters who show more home run power. If so, then it might be easier to find that complimentary guy at third than at second (even if only because of the misguided “sorting” you refer to). In that case, there would be a bit of added cost to moving Cardenas to third.

Now I don’t know that it is important to “balance” the lineup in this manner. I’d think one would want the most productive hitters, regardless of how they profile. No doubt this has been studied, so perhaps somebody can speak to it.

by D O on Jul 16, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Man PT you lose serious points for the Harry Potter

that being said, you are right on the general point. The positional adjustment is the same according to Tango.fungible

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 16, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Harry Potter movies are acceptable regardless of age.

Harry Potter books are acceptable if you are 13.

by chri5 on Jul 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

Reading a book is always preferable to watching a movie.

by PissedMick on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

That statement made no sense regardless of the title/series of the books/movies.

by jfish26101 on Jul 18, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree. I’d rather waste 2 hours on crap rather than two days on crap.

And yes, I’m saying Harry Potter is crap :)

by chri5 on Jul 18, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s OK, keep watching reality TV till you don’t have enough of a brainleft to actually read books. ;)

by jfish26101 on Jul 18, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But I can get my man card back if I buy a big truck and lift it right?

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I sure hope so

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by Player To Be Named Later on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

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by Frederick0220 on Jul 27, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs