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Adrian Cardenas


Any thoughts on his future? He didnt make BAs top 30 or so prospects last week. Is he  considered a guy with polished hitting ability but not alot of upside? Did his short stint in AAA hurt his status. He hasnt shown alot of HR power, but solid gap power. A better athlete with upside is pushing him at the lower levels in Jemile Weeks. Would a Cardenas shift to 3b lessen his status? Some would would say he might be a 2b version of a daric barton. No star upside,but a decent bet to be an avg/above avg player.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502133

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I'm not sure why this persistent myth continues to exist about 3B being less valuable than 2B

The two positions have equivalent adjustments. I think 3B offense is slightly better, but that’s like saying Hogwarts students are nicer than Slytherin students— it’s the result of the kind of players who get “sorted” to the position (3B tend to be taller, which correlates better with power even though it has no apparent impact on defensive ability).

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Jul 16, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

the theory

the theory, I suppose, is that taller players are more vulnerable when making the pivot on the double play. Don’t know if that’s actually the case or not, though.

One question which seems relevant is whether you think it is important to have a balanced offensive attack; that is, whether it is important to compliment a guy like Cardenas (line drives, doubles power) with other hitters who show more home run power. If so, then it might be easier to find that complimentary guy at third than at second (even if only because of the misguided “sorting” you refer to). In that case, there would be a bit of added cost to moving Cardenas to third.

Now I don’t know that it is important to “balance” the lineup in this manner. I’d think one would want the most productive hitters, regardless of how they profile. No doubt this has been studied, so perhaps somebody can speak to it.

by D O on Jul 16, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man PT you lose serious points for the Harry Potter

that being said, you are right on the general point. The positional adjustment is the same according to Tango.fungible

In play, run(s)! Talk dirty to me gamecast, talk dirty. - Nevermoor on FK

by designatedforassignment on Jul 16, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harry Potter movies are acceptable regardless of age.

Harry Potter books are acceptable if you are 13.

by chri5 on Jul 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

Reading a book is always preferable to watching a movie.

by PissedMick on Jul 16, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

That statement made no sense regardless of the title/series of the books/movies.

by jfish26101 on Jul 18, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be a Harry Potter pedant. . .

but technically Slytherin students are Hogwarts students. Maybe you meant that Hufflepuff or Gryffindor students are nicer than Slytherin students? ;-)

by clubberlang on Jul 17, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit

Yes.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

Not true tell me reading a porn is better than watching.

by AthleticsReign on Jul 16, 2009 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

So yeah

Adrian Cardenas . . .hell of a bat there.

by mrkupe on Jul 17, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had a feeling my Harry Potter reference might derail the thread

although, honestly, I’m not that sorry about it…

Really, though… I mean, this is a baseball blog… I’m pretty sure everyone here has already turned in their manliness card years ago…

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Jul 17, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I can get my man card back if I buy a big truck and lift it right?

by chri5 on Jul 17, 2009 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

People still buy Playboy

WordUpThome: I CANNOT BELIVE THAT THIS PRODUCT IS NOT BUTTER

Formerly Gallagher's Watermelons

by CaliforniaJag on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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