More Draft Discussion
by John Sickels on Jun 9, 2009 5:11 PM EDT
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Sure sounds like Crow may fall
I wonder who pops him if he keeps dropping … how bad could his demands be (saw a blurb somewhere that said Crow’s demands were high). If Detroit passes at 9 … then … ?
There are rumors that he would cut the Royals a hometown deal
Not sure I believe that, but it would be awesome to have him.
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Really? That would be awesome
Is that just message board fluff or has someone reputable mentioned it?
Founder of the Rowdy Hardy Fan Club
Message board fluff
A few posters at a Royals board say they recall Crow saying he would give them a discount when he was at Mizzou and that he grew up a Royals fan
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In newspaper articles
Not when they talked to him or anything.
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Hmmm, well it is interesting
and I know for a fact he grew up a Royals fan. We’ll see what happens shortly.
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howdy eazy
sure looks like the royals are going to have much better options than could’ve been anticipated a week or so ago.
what's up buddy
Yeah it looks like it, but teams also seem to follow other teams’ lead in situations like this, and I’m not sure I see the Royals bucking the trend here of passing on the big names. We’ll see.
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Which will make the selection of Will Myers all the more devastating
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this is a pretty interesting draft
i’m starting to shudder at the thought of matzek and crow falling to nyy/bos
I gotta think
someone is willing to spend before that … aren’t the cardinals looking for a lefty? … if Matzek falls … I gotta think he’d be at the top of their list. Maybe Crow and Cleveland? That sounds like a match.
Yankees and Redsox will load up again
and then hopefully i’ll see them in the NYPA
hmmm i will be able to see him in oneonta
could have talked to porcello back in 2007 down there if I knew anything about going to minor league games then. He warmed up for a week down there apparently the new GM told me down there last summe.
bad picks right now
Pirates with a 2nd round catcher
Braves with a late first pitcher
is it that bad
There seemed to be a lot of suggestions late that Storen had moved up into the mid-first range potentially. And in the NAts case, with the likely payout they’ll be given one Strasburg fella, I can understand going for a guy like Storen if he comes cheaper.
Question
From pick to pick where is the best place to follow the Draft Via the Internet?
like a Live draft tracker…..
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
K-Law
says Twins take SP Matt Hobgood if he falls to #22.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
so, who's the most signable HS pitcher left at 11
that the Rockies will take (BA blog)? Does that mean Shelby Miller, considering he’s supposedly a tiny bit cheaper than Matzek or Turner?
Good question
But no, I think Miller is still well out of the range they’re thinking. I’m thinking more towards Garrett Gould, Tyler Skaggs, somebody like that.
Gould or Skaggs at pick #11 overall? what?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
chad james?
he’s probably in that next mix
Mayo’s latest Top 10: 1 SS; 2 Ackley; 3 Tate; 4 T-Sanch; 5 Hobgood; 6 Z-Wheel; 7 Minor; 8 A-White; 9 Matzke; 10 Storen – #MLBDraft
baseball rules.
If Catcher Tony Sanchez went that high I’d be pretty darn surprised…
same goes with P-Matt Hobgood.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
only time will tell
but all the late rumors (BA for example) seem to point that the top 8 being pretty much set. In Hobgood’s case, it seems like a situation where teams might’ve had him higher than fans for some reason. After all, seemed like the Rockies had Hobgood as their top option, if you buy the rumors.
Latest update on Rocks/Royals from Callis
Nothing new on the Rocks front – says signable prepster, but does throw in Rex Brothers.
Says Jenkins on Royals, with Green/Myers as thoughts. A’s with Green, Scheppers, or Matzek.
and crow keeps falling … Cleveland?
Didn't the Royals really like Myers?
They had him in for a workout just the other day and really liked him, IIRC . . .but maybe they weren’t anticipating Jenkins being on the board?
Royals have been linked to Myers and Green a lot
Yes, supposedly they loved his workout and have really been looking to add a catcher or shortstop
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Both do want a lot of money
Green obviously wants a lot, and the buzz suggests Myers is looking for $2M or maybe more . . .maybe they think Jenkins will be an easy sign?
I hope that's not the reasoning
They don’t have another pick til the third round – you think they could overpay. They did shell out $9 mill to Kyle Farnsworth – they can’t pay $6 mill to Aaron Crow, Jacob Turner, Mike Leake or Grant Green?
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supposedly they are in on quite a few of the top latin prospects
which may cause them to take a guy who will sign for slot.
baseball rules.
A little surprising
If they’re going for signability in an arm, you think they’d be going withe m.o. of late years and grab one of those second-tier prep arms rather than the polished Jenkins.
Keith Law said the Brewers tried to negotiate an over-slot deal with one of the high-priced prep players
I wonder who it was. Very unusual for the Brewers.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Gotta think it was one of the arms
maybe Turner or Purke? I mean, if they go overslot, with the way the system is, gotta think it’s an arm, right?
They tend to like really live arms
Shelby Miller comes to mind here.
If Crow goes in mid teens, where is Scheppers in all this?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
wishing his shoulder was clean?
Mayo did have Scheppers fall to 27 with Seattle in yesterday’s mock
I think ESPN News will cover it, but will be a bit behind
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He sucked and was fat back then
Dropped a lot of weight and I guess started caring about baseball from what I’ve read.
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Listen to the canned cheers!
Can we get some props for the amazing MLB.com production crew?
I can’t wait until the floor suddenly falls out from under Bud Selig’s feet in about 20 minutes.
I was wondering...
Is there a live audience?
Now it gets interesting
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Andy Seiler compared him to Fred Lynn with less power upside
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I say Chipper Jones
very similar dimeanor and batting stance
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They just compared him to Mark Grace on TV
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Padres
Come on, do something completely random like drafting Hobgood…
they’re in the toughest spot of the Draft here at #3 IMO
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions
Yep there goes OF Dononvan Tate at #3 overall
in one of the strongest Pitching drafts in recent memory, two of the top 3 picks are position players!
Crazy
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
Strong?
The pitching is solid, but the bats just aren’t very impressive . . .just because a lot of pitchers may go in the first doesn’t mean they’re necessarily guys teams would like to take in the first, it just means that they’re the best of what’s available.
Can't wait to see how the Sanchez pick goes over in Pittsburgh
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Did Selig say Jorge Sanchez?
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Yeah, that must be his real first name
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
it’s not bad pick IF they spend the money elsewhere (later in the draft or international free agency).
Doesn't really matter
The McLouth trade may have been a good trade too, but the fans are pissed. A signability pick #4 overall is not going to make people happy.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Huntington had to release a statement
after the McLouth trade…part of the rumored explanation for the deal was to free up a few million for the draft…
i guess they plan to make a splash in later rounds??
The Orioles can get the 2nd pitcher in the entire draft if they choose to do so?
Crow?
Matzek?
Hobgood, Turner, Leake?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
Matt Hobgood - SP to Baltimore at #5
damn
that was my Twins pick….hehe
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
That what happen when your hire a former Twin GM
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
++!
They need to have a personable ex-player or executive up there, not Selig. He is old, boring, and just plain horrible to watch.
Baseball still has a marketing problem, and I don’t think Selig knows it.
Wheeler to Giants at 6
thats gotta piss the Braves off a tad, who pick next
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
Minor now?
Someone has to make the Pirates look good.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I just dont like Minor
His stuff leaves a lot to be desired.
Lots of big time talent still on the table….
man
This signability thing is out of control this year.
If I’m a fan of the Bucs Os or Giants, Im not too happy with my teams first round pick.
Wheres Turner, Crow and Matzek?
Disagree on the Giants
While I preferred Crow or Matzek, I don’t think Wheeler is an overdraft. O’s and Pirates fans should be pissed, though.
yes
Although will anything ever top Josh Vitters in 2007?
My theory...
The experience scarred him so horrifically that he went into a slump and needed a year and a half to get out of it.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not happy to be a Giant
His hometown team was picking next and certain to pick him had he fallen. He’s obviously not happy.
What HS pitcher in America hasnt heard of Tim Lincecum?
Was kind of waiting for the comment about Timmy
Think teams are holding off on big top-10 bonuses...
in anticipation of spending more in later rounds of what is supposed to be more of a deep, not so top-heavy draft?
Very nice pick
Thought they may have gone for Green there..
I bet the Tigers take one of the big pitchers here and pay what they are asking. Porcello II (Matzek or Purke?)
disgrace
This draft is a joke so far.
MLB will have to fix this crap.
Bottom 10 teams are picking guys with less talent, b/c they’re more signable.
Looks like the Red Sox and Yankees will win again!
"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs." - Mr. Baseball, Bob Uecker
I'm not so sure
It all comes down to a budgeting issue.
Teams like the Royals have budgeted big numbers for the draft and it is starting to pay off. The Giants are in a big market could have gone with a bigger player. The Brewers offered Sabathia $100mm last year, they can afford to draft a signability risk.
It all comes down to priorities.
Certainty is a big deal
Knowing that you’re definitely going to bring in talent is a really big deal, especially when we’re talking about the PR-related concerns that come with a first round pick. You can always find signability guys later, whether it’s a round later or ten, but you can’t have a first rounder back and losing out on a safe sign because you risked your pick on a pricy teenager who you couldn’t get a deal done with anyways is a bad way to build your system.
Detroit takes Turner
They’ve been connected with Turner for quite a while now, and apparently they weren’t swayed by any of the other names that dropped.
nah, Turner is excellent he is better than Purke in my opinion and probably Crow too, not Matzek though.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
Tigers
Not afraid to spend on talent.
"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs." - Mr. Baseball, Bob Uecker
White
Surprised Alex White has fallen this far.
"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs." - Mr. Baseball, Bob Uecker
Nats take Closer Drew storen at #10 overall
they could of had S.S. and Crow or Matzek
ugh that was the wrong pick IMO
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
Its all about the money
$30mm for Strasburg, got to put aside a couple of dollars for the rest of the players picked.
I'd be astounded if Strasburg ends up signing for more than $15M
It would still be a record by like $5M
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
If I were the Nats:
I would offer 21 mil. Double what Prior got. Take it or leave it. Non-negotiable.
They never could have signed them both
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Cut the Nats some slack
If any team needed to take a signability pick it was the Nats after picking Strasburg.
Yeah, I don't mind Storen there
What I do mind is Mayo on there blathering about how Storen was “at the top of their list for that pick all along”.
Yeah, because he was cheap.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Coverage sux
Every pic so far has been great according to MLB Network. Obviously the directive came down to not be negative.
To COL
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
by WayneCampbell08 on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
they’ll pony up and sign him when he’s that Good of a young left arm.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
teams that stick there neck out
and take chances no matter the extra cost are always going to get an applaud from me – its the reason the red sox have such a deep system
Theyve taken my favorite two years in a row
And the only reason they were available was because other teams didnt want to spend money.
Kelly and Bard.
If KC can sign him, that's a good pick.
What are the odds Crow won’t sign two years in a row? At some point, he has to realize that it’s better to take a little bit less money to actually play in affiliated baseball, right?
by thejd44 on Jun 9, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Crow is a KC native
and I have to believe we made some contact with him and his family to make sure he’s signable now. He’ll sign, and hopefully sooner rather than later. Great pick for KC.
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Crow
Crow will sign with the royals. 2nd time in the first round and he grew up a Royals fan. Steal for the Royals!
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Nice
They just showed that Mike Trout is at the draft . . .wearing a $2.5+ million suit.
Is Green a reach here if that's who Oakland takes?
He’s the highest ranked position player (I think), and the A’s could use a few of those, but the pitchers are probably better bets.
by thejd44 on Jun 9, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed.
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a noob could be simply a level 100 running round shouting ‘’WTF DO I GO!?’’ or someone calling someone else a noob and then getting hit with a brick, anyone can call anyone a noob, but normally they are noobs themselves
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Scheppers and Gibson
Free-falling to one of the teams at the bottom of the first? Yankees or Sox – like what the Yanks did with Brackman?
Thought It'd be Mller.
A noob or n00b is someone that lacks intellegance or common sense, most people think that noob is a word used only in the online gaming world, but in reality it is becoming an ever popular word with teenage society.
a noob could be simply a level 100 running round shouting ‘’WTF DO I GO!?’’ or someone calling someone else a noob and then getting hit with a brick, anyone can call anyone a noob, but normally they are noobs themselves
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I guess they figured the talent difference between him and Miller was enough to justify the price difference
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I wish Andy Seiler was here
….he could give his thoughts on Purke ….
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
he's live blogging right now
I think the quote is “WHAT???”
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
Indians to take Miller or Brothers?
or someone else?
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
I know who he is
I was suggesting him as an option.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
White- Good For the Indians
"I couldn't do that. Could you do that? Why can they do it? Who are those guys?"
+1
c’mon, you can’t take out your earphones?
lol
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
ooh
“Oregon wants to give me a chance to play first base but uh… we’ll see what Colorado has to say”
by Daniel Berlyn on Jun 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That Oregon comment?
Yeah, COL better get ready to play hardball with him.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller or Borchering or Wheeler?
Will the DBacks take 2 of these guys? Maybe take a risky pick and nab Gibson?
And I'd go Prep OF Mike Trout before both of them actually....
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Being a northern guy delays him a year if not more
I like his skills but would take Williams or Wheeler before Trout.
Thank you, thank you
I’ll be here all night!
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Reynolds quick enough to play 2B perhaps?
I mean he’ll be a FA by the time Borchering arrives…so…
On a related note
Borchering takes the lead in the “worst draft profile picture” race . . .is “Frankenstein” an acceptable comp for a prep player?
Quote from Huntington:
“We looked at the draft overall and put together a process that is best going to allow us to allocate the tremendous resources Bob Nutting has given us. This draft is going to be judged on 50 picks, and this was not a year — in our minds — to spend a huge chunk of our budget on one player. This is going to be spread over multiple players. We have a chance to flood our system with quality prospects.”
I guess not being cheap, just being selective. Good year for that I suppose.
Yeah.
If they take a couple of above-slot guys in the next couple of rounds, especially, then it will make a lot more sense.
Interesting
I guess we’ll have to wait and see. It’s a bold strategy, one that could really pay off big if they do it right. If they save $4M by taking Sanchez over, say, Matzek, and use that money to buy Sano and then two over-slot signs for $1M, for example, that’s actually pretty sweet.
The Pirates seem to be putting a strong emphasis on building quality depth, and I have to say, their GM seems to be very grounded and focused on his own development philosophies rather than making the moves he doesn’t want to, even though they would be in line with consensus opinion.
Wow, two bats for Arizona
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Yeah, but there are better outfielders than Pollock on the board
And I thought they were going to take one bat and one arm.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Some of that, but
True CFs are hard to find, and Pollock has the ability to be that with a solid bat. A nice move for a team that’s always more comfortable with college players.
AJ Pollack
Destroying the Cubs’ hopes and dreams, goes to AZ
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
thank god
I really didn’t like him for the Cubs.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
Nor did I for the Brewers
Glad he’s gone.
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
I saw him play many times last year, nice player
but he only grades out as an average major leaguer
Im with you on that sentiment
very very happy that pollock didn't make it to the Cubs
didn’t care for him … i don’t like Brett Jackson, but I preferred gambling on Jackson to taking Pollock
You called that one Outshined
The load groan you just heard was 1.5 million Chicago Catholics pissed off.
And from me
This means the Cubs will be more likely to take friggin’ Brett Jackson.
by Outshined_One on Jun 9, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Confession booths will be busy
"I didn't realize his velocity was that high," said Macha, noting that radar readings aren't flashed during exhibition games.
Actually I think it is a really good fit for Florida
Andy Seiler called that one right on.
by SteveHoffmanSlowey on Jun 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
New thread up
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/6/9/904202/more-draft-thread#comments
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