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Prospect Profile: Vin Mazzaro

Prospect Profile: Vin Mazzaro

Oakland drafted Mazzaro in the third round in 2005, out of high school in Rutherford, New Jersey. He signed late, and based on scouting reports I gave him a Grade C+ in the 2006 book. Scouts liked his 90 MPH sinker, and felt both his breaking ball and changeup had the potential to improve a great deal. It was also hoped that as a cold-weather high school pitcher, his arm had fewer miles on it than guys from warmer climes.

He didn't make his pro debut until 2006, going 9-9, 5.05 with an 81/42 K/BB in 119 innings for Kane County in the Midwest League, allowing 146 hits. His control was OK, but his strikeout rate was below average and he was very hittable. Scouting reports indicated that he had a solid 90 MPH sinker, and that his curveball had plus moments, but that his changeup needed work, his command within the strike zone wasn't the best, and his stuff tended to flatten out when he overthrew. The numbers were certainly unimpressive, and he got hit around pretty bad in one Midwest League game I saw, showing poor command of below average stuff in that game. I gave him a Grade C in the 2007 book, writing that gradual improvement was more likely than a big breakthrough.

Mazzaro moved up to Stockton in the California League in 2007. Once again his performance was mediocre: 9-12, 5.33 with a 115/71 K/BB in 154 innings, 159 hits allowed. His strikeout rate rose slightly, but his walks were up significantly. Scouts reported his fastball at 88-92 MPH, still with the good sinking action, but his curveball and changeup regressed and his control was less reliable. I gave him another Grade C in the 2008 book, writing that there was "no objective evidence of a turnaround on the horizon," but that given his youth it was always possible.

Things turned around quickly in 2008. He began the year at Double-A Midland, an aggressive posting after two poor A-ball seasons, but he responded to the challenge by going 12-3, 1.90 in 22 starts with a 104/36 K/BB in 137 innings, 115 hits allowed. His velocity improved from 88-92 into the 90-93 range, hitting 94-95 when he was fresh early in the year. He added an improved slider to replace the weak curve, and showed better feel for his changeup, though it remained a so-so pitch overall. He also improved his command and pitched with greater confidence. On the other hand, a late trial for Triple-A Sacramento went poorly: 6.15 ERA with a 27/9 K/BB in 34 innings, with an ugly 49 hits allowed. A late report in Triple-A indicated his velocity was down again, his breaking stuff lacked crispness, and he looked tired late in the year.

I raised his grade to B- in the 2009 book. I was impressed by the Texas League performance and the improved slider, but the Triple-A struggle worried me, and I had a nagging suspicion that he would fall back to Earth this year. I wrote "He's got two and one quarter seasons of bad pitching under his belt, and three-quarters of one good season to his credit." I also wrote that he still had youth on his side, and that learning how to fail and then rebound was an important skill.

It looks like my suspicion was totally off-base. Mazzaro was very strong in Triple-A this year, posting a 2.38 ERA with a 44/17 K/BB in 57 innings, allowing just 42 hits and a .205 average against. He won his first major league start this week, and given Oakland's need for starting pitching he will be given plenty of additional chances. I still have some concerns: he walked four guys in his 6.1 innings, with just one strikeout, and a ratio like that won't lead to success over the longer term. But it's clear he's made substantial improvements improving his stuff and refining his command, way ahead of where he was two years ago. I think he can be a solid number three type starter if he continues to refine his secondary stuff and if he stays healthy. He has made my predictions look pretty bad the last couple of years, so we'll see how that expectation holds.

 

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He was getting squeezed

That led to at least 2 of the walks. My biggest worry was that he couldn’t finish guys off for the first half of the start before settling in. There were a few 9 or 10 pitch ABs. Later in the start he was getting more goundballs and got Thome to swing over the top of a slider or two.

If he can command his sinker on both sides of the plate and keep it down I think he’ll have success.

RIVER CATS: AAA CHAMPS!

by niallmack on Jun 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Pumped Up

Mazzaro was pumped up for the first 3-4 innings of his MLB Debut, throwing 94MPH heat w/ zero movement. As the game wore on, Mazzaro sat at around 90-92 MPH w/ sink. He appears to have solid fastball command, and as you said, the HP Umpire was squeezing the hell out of Mazzaro for the majority of the game.

A’s Starting 5: Anderson, Cahill, Outman, Mazzaro, Braden …. have looked very, very impressive as of late (except in Texas). Gio Gonzalez, Gallagher, and Eveland will all be stuck in AAA for most of the year… and that’s a good thing.

by Colorado Fan on Jun 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Player

I like his name too

Big Numbers

by homerun013 on Jun 4, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

cautiously non-pessimistic

i’m excited about his improved velocity and his fine debut, but i don’t think he can really sustain his success unless he sharpens up his off-speed stuff. he’s still awfully young and he could well turn into a nice success story, but i’m betting the rest of ‘09 won’t be so hot.

by jpahk on Jun 5, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

This could be

But Mazzaro seems to be a guy who has the work ethic to make his pitches better. He’s already developed new pitches once he wasn’t succeeding. I know everybody has a ceiling, but his stuff appears to be good enough, and he just seems like the type who will work until his command is better.

And since Oakland probably isn’t going anywhere this year, I’m sure he’ll be left in the rotation to figure it out. Seems like the A’s only hate some of their struggling prospects/players whose careers Geren has tried to ruin (Gallagher/Gio).

by thejd44 on Jun 5, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing in his favor

Is that he’s on a competitive staff with guys around his age. They will push each other and with the help of the A’s best positional prospect (Suzuki) they should succeed in the future if not the rest of the year.

RIVER CATS: AAA CHAMPS!

by niallmack on Jun 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

climate
Scouts liked his 90 MPH sinker, and felt both his breaking ball and changeup had the potential to improve a great deal. It was also hoped that as a cold-weather high school pitcher, his arm had fewer miles on it than guys from warmer climes.

how big of a consideration is this when drafting pitchers?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Jun 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

draft

Well everyone considers it I think….though some teams put more weight on it than others.

by John Sickels on Jun 5, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

More importantly, how many more miles do warmer climate pitchers tend to have?

I can’t imagine it’s more than 50-100 innings extra. Is that really that much?

by thejd44 on Jun 5, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just one season

In the states that have the warmest weather – kids play nearly year round.

A good pitcher may pitch on his regular team; a traveling team or two; and then in fall leagues every year. He may only get 1-2 months off as opposed to 5-6 like most of the northern kids get.

by Dfarth on Jun 5, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

John - off topic

Can you please re-post the rules/time, etc. for tomorrow’s Mock…

Thanks!

by pffriberg on Jun 5, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty solid Sunday

7.1 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

As a Rangers fan, I’m not exactly looking forward to them having to deal with that fivesome for the next 5-6 years.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 8, 2009 3:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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